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Stupid. I don't know any other way to put it. This season keeps getting worse and worse

[ED NOTE: Full Details from the Iowa City paper: "According to Iowa City criminal complaints, police found marijuana, cocaine and prescription drugs inside Derrell Johnson-Koulianos’ residence during a search Tuesday afternoon. Police said Johnson-Koulianos admitted to using the drugs and a urine test indicated a presence of drugs in his urine. Johnson-Koulianos also allegedly had electronic media showing him in possession of drugs." Translation: the DJK era is over in Iowa City, and his career ended in a flameball of fail in the same way that the 2010 Hawkeye season did.]

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I just saw a fanbase go from passively optimistic (if not a bit depressed) to

Dejected, baffled, shocked, and somewhat scared in about an hour. What a night…

So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?

by hkobb7 on Dec 7, 2010 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not sure what's more stupid

getting involved in that shit in the first place, or talking to the police when they’re executing a warrant / arresting you.

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by Hilary Lee on Dec 7, 2010 10:49 PM CST reply actions  

Spoken like a true lawyer/law student

well done.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 8, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

*Shrug*

The most important lesson that I’ve learned out of criminal defense in law school so far is that talking with the police without your lawyer present is never a good idea. Doesn’t matter if you’re guilty or innocent. If you’re guilty anyway, it’s more likely than not that you’ll plead out in the end even if you don’t talk initially. If you’re innocent, talking only leads to bad things happening.

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by Hilary Lee on Dec 8, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Word.

Even my non-lawyerly self has that burned into my head.

by GoAUpher on Dec 8, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

You try talking to the cops after they kick in your door when you're high.

I would imagine its not so easy. He apparently hadn’t lawyer’d up yet. He has however been working out and deleted his facebook page.

/reddit’d

by HawkeyeRecon on Dec 8, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Not easy maybe

but I’m guessing nobody ever told him that he shouldn’t under any circumstances without having his lawyer there first. He’s young, so I’d be surprised if that lesson was impressed on him. But it should be something everybody knows.

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by Hilary Lee on Dec 8, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

This should be green people!

by Estrada on Dec 8, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe this is why you didn’t beat Minnesota all by yourself, dumbass.

by Erik T on Dec 7, 2010 11:04 PM CST reply actions  

That was unnecessarily douche-y. I hope the kid gets his life together, because there’s a very good path and a very bad path from here on out.

by Erik T on Dec 7, 2010 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

If anything

given that he was the only one trying, maybe if more of our guys were on the Colombian Booger Sugar we would have won.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 8, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

This is the cherry on top

of the poo sundae that was 2010 Iowa football. Damn. I’m going to need a bowl win and a quiet off-season to get over this season.

by HeartOfHawkness on Dec 8, 2010 1:30 AM CST reply actions  

I think you just quoted me

from the basketball threa. I DEMAND ATTRIBUTION!!!! THIS IS THE INTERNETZ, IT’S SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 8, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

If one lemming jumps off a cliff

Others tend to follow… soooooo….

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by Hilary Lee on Dec 8, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

In my defense

it’s a pretty natural metaphor for this season, so duplicates are likely.

And if that’s not a good enough explanation then I’LL SEE YOU IN INTERNET COURT!!

by HeartOfHawkness on Dec 8, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh heavens no.

I’m betting this wouldn’t have happened had Iowa managed to pull out something better than a 7-5 regular season.

Cue 2005/2006/2007 Iowa struggles? I sure hope not.

Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
"What's your formula for the corner?" -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 8, 2010 2:02 AM CST reply actions  

Why is it that

when our seasons go bad, they go so spectacularly bad? We’re never a team that does well on the field but has some problems off it or spotless off-field behavior couple with disappointing on-field results; instead, we get complete garbage fire disaster seasons only.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 8, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Look at it this way

At least you get it all out of your system at once, and then move on and have 4 or 5 good years after the specatacularly craptastic one.

Unlike Indiana and Minnesota, where it’s reversed. One good year, then 5 or 6 (or in Indiana’s case 37) craptastic years.

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"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."

by Ted Glover on Dec 8, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate seeing talented kids making stupid decisions. A little weed I can see, not the best thing for an athlete, but if that’s the worst thing they do, I can live with it. But coke and prescriptions drugs? That’s more of a problem.
I hope DJK gets his stuff together, because he has a great opportunity to play in the NFL.

by Spartan D on Dec 8, 2010 8:34 AM CST reply actions  

After actually reading the articles...

…looks like DJK was not only using, but dealing significant quantities. Fuck him then

by Spartan D on Dec 8, 2010 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

You're misreading the article

which is easy to do, it’s a bit confusing. Short of it is, DJK is basically only accused of using/being aware of his roommate’s activity. His roommate, on the other hand, is the one accused of being the seller. The confusing part is that the roommate’s last name is Johnson which tends muddy the issue when only last names are being used.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 8, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Allegedly...allegedly

Criminey, a blog full of lawyers and this had to be pointed out by the non-barrister?

Shame, lady and gentlemen, shame.

Oh, and that will be the standard $300 Internet dollars/hour, my standard fee. Please pay my secretary on the way out…cash only, no checks.

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"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."

by Ted Glover on Dec 8, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

$300?

Compared to the billing rates of your average first-year associate at a major law firm, that’s a bargain.

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by Hilary Lee on Dec 8, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but it's

Internet dollars. A nebulous currency, much like the US dollar these days.

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"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."

by Ted Glover on Dec 8, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Allegedly, my arse...

…cops never lie about this kind of stuff
/sarcasmhopefullyevident

by Spartan D on Dec 8, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

How DARE he try Coke

Dr Pepper is the only way to go.

wait….

by Pariahwulfen on Dec 8, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Talking makes sense

When you think of the NFL interviews he’s going to go through. Probably better to admit to mistakes and move past them then drag the court drama into his draft stock.

Just finished my Criminal Procedure: Adjudication final at Iowa Law 2 hours ago haha.

by Bryce Carlson on Dec 8, 2010 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

I've got Constitutional Criminal Procedure tomorrow

Problem is, there’s a difference between “talking” and admitted. It’s one thing for him to plead guilty to whatever he’s guilty of. That is probably the smart thing to do in this situation if he wants to actually go to the NFL (though even then it might not help). But talking to police while they’re executing a search warrant? That can’t help.

For example, let’s pretend we’re recreating the bust as it happened. And, for the purposes of this experiment, let’s say that DJK was only involved in the marijuana stuff and not the harder drugs. But, for whatever reason, let’s say that somehow some of that cocaine / Rx stuff ended up in DJK’s room even if it wasn’t his. If he says nothing during the search and talks to the police only with his lawyer present, he probably only ends up pleading to what he’s actually guilty of – possession of marijuana. Let’s say on the other hand that while executing the warrant the cops find this other stuff in his room and demand of him “Are the drugs yours?!” in that oh-so vague way. Thinking they’re referring to the marijuana he actually does have he responds yes. But, oops, now he admitted to owning the coke and the Rx too. Nice try going back on that later…

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by Hilary Lee on Dec 9, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Remember people

the cops are NOT your friends! Flat tire on the side of the road, cop stops and asks what’s wrong? He’s there to help, feel free to talk to him. Same cop is in your house with a warrant? He ain’t there to make nice. Shut up and lawyer up.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 9, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty much

It may sound funny to you. But it isn’t really wrong. I noticed quite a few commentators on BHGP agree with me on this one. Guess it’s just the lawerly opinion.

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by Hilary Lee on Dec 9, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I was being serious

Hell, I’m just another lawyer who knows THE COPS ARE NOT MY FRIENDS. And remembering that fact has kept me out of a number of dicey situations.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 9, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh didn't know you were lawerly too

It all makes so much sense now. :)

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by Hilary Lee on Dec 10, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

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