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Evaluating the Mechanics of Big Ten Quarterbacks - Kevin Newsome

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Kevin Newsome, the former Michigan recruit turned probable Penn State starting quarterback, is one of the best athletes in the Big Ten period. And judging from the way PSU found ways to showcase the various tools of Michael Robinson and Daryll Clark, I've got to assume Paterno and co. will tweak the Spread HD in a way that allows Newsome to succeed.

Big Ten Report Card:

1. Kirk Cousins (A-)

2. Scott Tolzien (B+)

3. Tate Forcier (C-)

4. Ricky Stanzi (B+)

5.
Dan Persa (B+/A-)

6.
Adam Weber (B-)

7. Terrelle Pryor (B-)

8. Ben Chappell (B-)

Star-divide

Snap (B-):

  • Security/Ball Placement (D): Fumbled a few times last year, fumbled a few times in the Spring Game. Definitely a weakness.
  • Retreat Speed (A-): Retreats quite well from under center, taking measured steps yet getting distance from his line relatively quickly. It helps that he's so damn nimble.
  • Footwork (B-): In high school, he looked like an athlete playing quarterback, which he was. Has grown more confident in setting his feet to throw, but cannot reset his stance after his initial receiver isn't open. Once he loses that first read, he gets happy feet (aka he scrambles).
  • The Fake (B): If his high school fakes were so good, and they were, than his college level fakes could only improve. Play fakes quite well, but I didn't see any ball fakes to judge.
  • Adaptation (B): A dynamic scrambler in high school and generally has all the tools to be a dynamic scrambler in 2010. BSD readers and editors don't want him throwing all the time, instead they want 15 throws a game and an offense tailored to his athleticism. Because of his high delivery, he can get throws off when being hit. Newsome is also exceptionally fast laterally and keeps his head up when scrambling. One negative - he doesn't hold the ball in good throwing position when flushed out of the pocket.

Release (D+):

  • Survey (C-): Two Spring Game picks mean little, but locking onto receivers is a problem. Young QB's always struggle with this though; it takes a lot of confidence to see a couple covered receivers and check down or wait for a route to open up.
  • Stance (C): Has a wide stance (...yup), instead of a nicely balanced one. This somewhat explains the lack of zip he gets on throws.
  • Step (B-): Didn't take a step in high school, instead relying on a quick, high release and letting his wide receivers make plays. Has improved, but still doesn't drive into his throws.
  • Wrist/Throw (D-): Newsome has a nice high release point. That's the extent of positives for his delivery. Unfortunately, their is a laundry list of negatives. Despite claims that his piano playing helps him grip the ball well, Kevin does not grip the ball hard enough with both hands. Despite his improved retreat into the pocket, Kevin reverts a bit back to high school form and drops the ball low, making his delivery take too long. Because of these issues, Newsome makes a lot of high throws that lack zip. You know those jump balls thrown typically around the goal line in the NFL to tall receivers? That's what a lot of his normal throws look like.

How the Offense Affects Mechanics (Incomplete):

  • I have confidence that if Newsome starts, PSU will find ways to use him effectively...unlike say Jim Tressel, who let Pryor wilt in a confusing Shotgun Spread for way too long before simplifying his gameplan ("Oh damn, you're telling me that's not Troy Smith back there? Whoops..."). Newsome can run like TP, but it remains to be seen whether he can make the 8 yard throws that keep secondaries honest and make the (I presume) run-focused Spread HD that much more effective.

Overall: C-

[Editors Note: I watched Kevin play the piano here. I watched him play football here...and here in the Spring Game.]

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I'm so glad you found the piano video.

Seriously.

I don’t know why, I laugh every time I watch that.

by psuwxman on Jul 22, 2010 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Minor Correction

You mention Newsome threw two picks in the spring game. That was Matt McGloin who threw the picks. Newsome didn’t throw any picks.

http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2009-2010/bw2010.html

by BSD on Jul 22, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

but he should have

didn’t Stupar drop one that Newsome just drilled into his chest?

Fiya Minaya.

by BringBackBobby on Jul 23, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

It’s a challenge to make an assessment with limited information.

by Cairo on Jul 22, 2010 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

On point

Unfortunately, there isn’t very much college-level film to go on with Newsome. And I would imagine a lot of what we have is garbage time with second- or third-string linemen and receivers. I’m no expert on mechanics, but I agree with everything you’ve got here.

The number one thing we have to hope for is that Newsome can minimize big mistakes/turnovers. Improve ball security in general. I think a summer of reps with the same one or two centers will be a big help.

I’d also note that, particularly in the Blue-White Game, when he missed receivers on deep passes he was always over-throwing them IIRC. Probably a good thing to cut down on INT’s.

by Paterno Ave on Jul 22, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

So are you going to do mechanics on Matt McGloin too?

Cause, it seems like he´s going to see some serious PT as well (correct me if I´m wrong, nit fans).

I am positively giddy about PSU´s QB problems this year. They will have a great D as always. I like Paterno but I hate the Paterno rule (how officials give Joe Pa an absurdly terrible game defining call or two every year just for being him).

 Ever since the literally no contact, or even near contact bail out pass interference call on a play that would and should have ended the game with a Gopher victory in ´06, I´ve been itching for the Gophers to get a good chance to knock off Penn State to even the score. Penn State will be favored (and rightfully so), but there is serious upset potential in this year´s game.

Can´t wait to see Newsome and McGloin at the Bank.

by AhliBobwa on Jul 22, 2010 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Trust me, the final score will NOT be 16-7, Minnesota.

Okay, don’t trust me.

That amazing 2004 PSU defense combined with that atrocious offense = greatest 4 win team in Big Ten history.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 22, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wha??

The “Paterno rule”? If anything the “Paterno rule” is give the other team an absurdly terrible game defining call AGAINST him, i.e. the no pass interference call against Iowa in 2008, the magical 2 seconds they gave Lloyd Carr in 2005, and two awful out of bounds calls against Iowa in 2002 (which lead Joe Pa to lead the rallying call for instant reply so that the officials COULDN’T screw things up as badly)

by EaglesPhan53 on Jul 23, 2010 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rumors of Matt McGloin are greatly overstated.

By the end of the year he’ll be a decent 3rd stringer.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Jul 25, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

McGloin

There’s a lot to like about him, and he’d be awesome in 1AA or the right situation in the Big East or MAC. My personal take on McGloin: think Krenzel with more risk taking and a better arm, but with a mediocre offensive line.

If PSU had a better O-line, he could do some serious damage. As is, mobility at QB will be too important to this PSU team for McGloin to be a viable option for 2010.

Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases

by ckmneon on Jul 25, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matt McGloin:

your Paul Cianciolo for the next 3 years.

by psuwxman on Jul 25, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Killer Cam Heyward

Cannot WAIT to break this kid in half….

Out of Hound since 2008

by BuckeyeSki on Jul 22, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

quick, come up with lame tshirt idea in time for this game

something that rhymes/resembles Kevin Newsome but is meant to be mean and make people sad and realize that they suck!

derpp’d

Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 22, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Heyward is much like his dad,

then he is much more interested in breaking the paperboy delivering The Columbus Dispatch in half.

"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway

by SubLime on Jul 22, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Killer Cam?

You didn’t stay up too late coming up with that one did you?

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by mikjones24 on Jul 22, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sarcasam btw...

Not being a complete ass. Or am I?!

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by mikjones24 on Jul 22, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being a killer isn't special

I mean, everybody does, kills people….

Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases

by ckmneon on Jul 25, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

cept manny ramirez

he “didn’t kill nobody”

Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 25, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

SBB, I noticed a TINY error in the Minnesota preview.

Where you have Iowa as a Minnesota win…
Um, yet the Gophers already filled their two conference wins with NU and Purdue…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 25, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks, I'll fix that. that is indeed an erro ron my par as I meant to give them the L

Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 26, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

you know the Gophers win at least 3 conference games ...

basically every year that wasn´t 2007. If you´re going to hate, at least be accurate.

Gophers win 4 conference games this year BTW.

by AhliBobwa on Jul 28, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not hating on anyone besides ol RFraud

minnesota lost it’s best receiver/only play maker from last season and has a terrible running game/no defense.

just the way i see it.

Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

geez, everyone hates my reviews of their teams

first Chad on my wilcats post now this guy…

oh well, haters gonna hate.

Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

very true, he knos his stuff

although he does think that having 9 guys start in the secondary is a good thing….

when you have 9 defensive backs, you have no defensive backs.

Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I foudn this stunning statistic from last season...

Minnesota gave up 131 yards rushing to Jahvid Best when Cal went to the Twin Cities.

They also gave up 5 rushing touchdowns.

FIVE
RUSHING
TOUCHDOWNS

Someone, give this guy an NFL contract… Oh, Detroit’s got him? Good, he’s covered.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 31, 2010 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Newsome is pretty rough as a passer

but with all his athletic ability, he could still round into a solid QB in time.

Between Newsome, Jones, Bolden and McGloin, PSU’s got ample talent at QB. But who knows which of them will come out on top? Bolden is probably the best of the bunch, but who knows when he’ll see the field.

by newenglandnittanylion on Jul 22, 2010 6:39 PM CDT reply actions  

No, Newsome has more potential as a passer.

Robinson was a pure Athlete, who had the strongest back of any player in the Big 10 in the last decade. He managed to carry 84 other players to victory on strength of will alone in a few instances. Newsome has the tools to be a better overall QB I believe, and thankfully this 2010 team will not have a shortage of talent around him.

I’d say if Newsome can average 50 yards on the ground, 120 or so in the air and a 1:.5 TD:Pick ratio each game, we’ll win 9-10 games easily. If we get a gift and some of the top 10 teams on the schedule implode (or get suspended in Bama’s case) we have an outside shot at 11 and a BCS bowl. But that’s more in fantasy land than anything. I also don’t think we drop down to 8 wins, in fact I think 10 is more likely than 8 given the rest of our schedule’s apparent mediocrity and home field advantage.

A big thing to note here, is that our receivers proved last year they are very, very good at running their routes. Timing is a huge factor for any quarterback, let alone a new starter, but our receiving corps are well disciplined and should help along his progress nicely. They are also fairly good at getting decent YAC totals if I am not mistaken.

by mvrck on Jul 22, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Michael Robinson? The 3rd string RB for the 49ers?

That Michael Robinson?

Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 23, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

3rd string do-everything player

And former PSU QB.

You remember him, don’t you? I mean, who could forget that wild, back-and-forth, 17-10 game? (sarcasm)

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 24, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

3rd String Team Captain.

Which was kind of my point if I didn’t express it well. He was a “good” Quarterback because of his leadership abilities, if not his actual amazing throwing skills. Penn State will be very lucky if any of our QB candidates can show the same leadership potential as Robinson did. But I believe that all of them have a higher ceiling as passers than Robinson did, if only by the virtue that Robinson only had one real season to actually quarterback. The other three years he was here, he played pretty much wherever we needed a body at the moment.

by mvrck on Jul 24, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

The PSU QB situation in 2004 was a disaster.

Mills went down, Robinson went down, what’s his name played QB abysmally and PSU won all of four games, almost all of which were decided by great defensive play.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 24, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Providing depth, like Vernon Gholston

except Robinson will see meaningful NFL plays in the future

Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases

by ckmneon on Jul 24, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

nicely played

vernon NEEDS to play in a 4-3, the 3-4 does him zero favors.

Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 25, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see what Newsom can do

If PSU can get him to perform, they will beat Alabama.

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by Ted Glover on Jul 24, 2010 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

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