Twenty Big Ten Predictions for 2010
You can smell the football from here, can't you? It's close. Close enough, that it isn't too hard to predict what it is that will happen in this 2010 season. Still fuzzy? Let me help you. Here are 20 things that you can expect to see in the Big Ten this season.
- People are going to bitch about the announced division alignment.
Greg Doyel probably has the column written already. Dennis Dodds, too. Ivan Maisel and Stewart Mandel are probably waiting to write the "well it's not the ideal way that it could have been done, but let's see how it plays out," columns. Here's the thing: ninety-three sports writers and 167 bloggers have written pieces on how the post-Nebraska divisions should be set. No matter what Jim Delaney announces in early-August, he can't choose all of the proposals. And thus, voila! Here come the easy columns in which scribes get to claim that the Big Ten was ignorant for not heeding their advice. Unless of course, you are the lone scribe who gets to praise the Big Ten for following your advice. Yawn.

- 2010 will not see any more teams added to the Big Ten.
I think that the Big Ten now keeps its powder dry. Texas forced Jim Delaney's hand on Nebraska with the Pac-16 situation. He admitted as much. Now, unless Notre Dame or Texas makes a move toward the Big Ten - and that won't happen, I think the league takes a wait and see approach. It's not like the other schools mentioned (Rutgers, Pitt, Syracuse, Mizzou, etc.) won't wait for the phone call.
Want to listen to three lawyers argue about the framers' intent with regard to the commerce clause? How about three lawyers arguing about the likelihood of Michigan having a winning record this year? If you're in the second group, head over to Black Heart Gold Pants and listen to Bama Hawkeye defend his predictions under the white-hot questioning of HawkeyeState and Adam Jacobi in Episode 32 of the Black Heart Gold Podcast.
- The "Big 10 is Back" storyline will continue through the non-conference season.
Talent and scheduling meet here. The schedules (planned far enough in advance that it is a happy circumstance) give the league the chance to have nice wins, without any true showdowns (like the Ohio State-USC games). Yes, Penn State travels to Alabama. But will anyone expect that the Lions, with a QB starting his first road game, will beat Nick Saban's defense? Similarly, does anyone think that Minnesota is going to beat USC? The important games are Ohio State beating Miami in the Horseshoe, Iowa winning in Arizona, and Wisconsin beating Arizona State in Madison. Add the league taking two of three from Notre Dame (Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue), and it will be a successful non-conference season.
- However, the MAC will still get a Big Ten scalp. Again.
Let's just get it behind us. Top targets: MAC West favorite Northern Illinois at Illinois or Minnesota, Toledo at Purdue, Western Michigan at Michigan State, or (an admittedly rebuilding) Central Michigan at Northwestern. The Big Ten is helped that the two best teams in the East Division play at Ohio State (Ohio) and Penn State (Temple). I don't see either of those upsets happening. I'll take the Huskies to win one of their two.

- Ohio State is going to run the table.
Who's going to stop them? Iowa? The Hawkeyes have four wins and one tie against the Buckeyes in the last thirty years. In those games, not once have the Buckeyes had one of their "good teams." 1983, 1987, 1988, 1991, 2004 - each Ohio State squad lost at least three regular season games. This team is better than that. Penn State? Maybe Kevin Newsome won't be intimidated by the Horseshoe after already playing in Tuscaloosa and Iowa City. But that doesn't mean that he's ready to win there. Wisconsin? Ahhhh...and here's the scariest game on the slate. The Badgers nearly beat Ohio State in 2008 and completely outplayed the Buckeyes in 2009 (and then repeatedly gave the game away on special teams and with turnovers). With the game back in Madison, it could be Bucky that stops the Buckeyes. I don't think it happens, but it's the best chance.
- The second best Big Ten team isn't playing in the Big Ten this year.
Look, I hate Nebraska as much as anyone who ever lived in Iowa and Missouri should, but the Huskers are going to be good this year. The offense should be improved (it'd be hard not to be). If Jared Crick can have a teammate step up on the defensive line, the defense should be near the wrecking crew that it was last year. Before expansion blew up the Big 12, I had Nebraska going to the BCS Championship Game. There is no way that the Big 12 let's the Huskers run the table now, but that won't stop this from being a very strong 11 win squad.
- Iowa will drop a road game, likely in Ann Arbor.
All of the focus on Iowa's schedule has been about the good teams coming to Kinnick. And this year's slate is home-heavy. That said, as a Hawkeye fan, I'm not afraid of Iowa facing Wisconsin or Penn State. Those matchups work well for the Hawkeyes - and past results bare that out. I am terrified of seeing the Iowa defense face the Rodriguez spread again. If I'm RichRod, I watch the second half of the Orange Bowl and take note. What did Georgia Tech do on their first two drives? Run to the offense's right side, away from Adrian Clayborn. What happened? Two long drives (resulting in a missed field goal and a touchdown). Broderick Binns, it could well be that the success of the Hawkeye season will depend upon your ability to stuff the run.

- Penn State is going to have a déjà vu season.
Last year, Penn State was vastly superior to 10 opponents and dominated all 10. They played two teams that were equal (or superior) in talent, and were defeated by double digits. I expect that we'll see that same thing this year. Big wins over weak teams like Indiana, Minnesota, and Temple. Double digit losses to Ohio State, Alabama and Iowa.
- Wisconsin is going to spend its bowl season in Florida. Again.
This says as much about the new bowl partnerships for the league as it does Wisconsin's place in the conference. With the top three bowl slots after the BCS taking place in Florida, Big Ten teams 3-5 will winter in the Sunshine State. What is Wisconsin? Perpetually the 3rd, 4th, or 5th best team in the Big Ten.
- Michigan is going to win (at least) eight games.
Where do they get a three game improvement? Do you really think that Michigan is going to lose to Illinois again? That's one. If they win three of the following four (@Notre Dame, Iowa, Michigan State, @Purdue), they'll make up the three games. Yes, they'll have defensive problems. But, that offense is going to be enough on its own to beat a lot of teams.
- Purdue will get back to a bowl game, but the real breakthrough isn't until 2011.
Did you realize that last year Purdue beat Michigan and Ohio State last year and didn't make a bowl game? I'm going to say that had previously never happened in the last 30 years. If I'm wrong, you can tell me. Purdue fans have a lot to be excited about, and as Iowa and Wisconsin take a step back in 2011, Purdue will be poised to make their leap forward.
- Michigan State will fade down the stretch.
Two things that I'm very confident you will see in October 2010: 1) Tea Party folks being angry about stuff; and 2) Michigan State having a losing record in the month.
- Though they should run out to an 8-0 start, Northwestern will lose a pair of games in the first half of the season.
Last year, there were losses at Syracuse and Minnesota. This year, I think that they match that start. Look for a 3-2 split of these five games: @Vanderbilt, @Rice, Central Michigan, @Minnesota, Purdue.

- Illinois is not getting to six wins.
And it might not even be close. Coming into last season, Illinois had a loaded offense and a questionable defense. This year, the defense is a full-blown rebuilding project, while the offense is in shambles. A slightly easier schedule may mean a slightly better record than last season's 3-9. But not much better.
- Ron Zook will be told that he has decided to pursue new opportunities.
A smart team will hire him as an assistant and director of recruiting.
- Indiana will use their ridiculous non-conference schedule to get to 5 wins.
Towson, @Western Kentucky, Akron, Arkansas State. Pathetic. Karmic payback would see Indiana losing one of those.
- Minnesota will finish with the worst overall record in the league.
Where to start? Minnesota lost 9 starters off of last year's defense, including the strength of the team - their entire linebacker corps. The quarterback situation is a mess, and likely getting messier. Coach Tim Brewster successfully recruited MarQueis Gray to come to Minnesota. An incredible athlete, he was the perfect fit for the open spread style that Brewster wanted to run. Now, Brewster has installed a pro-style offense that suits current starter, Adam Weber. Weber, who only looked impressive when paired with now-Denver Bronco Eric Decker, is better suited for the pro-set. But Weber is best suited for backup. Bringing Gray in to run a Pro-Style offense? That's going to be a work in progress. The offensive line, a consistent strength at Minnesota as Marion Barber and Laurence Maroney racked up 1,000 yard seasons, was decrepit last season. There is little reason to think that it will be any better. There are plenty of reasons to think that Minnesota will be a lot worse.
- Tim Brewster will be told that he has decided to pursue new opportunities.
A new stadium is a selling point for only so long. After that, you need to win.
- There will be at least one Big Ten finalist for the Heisman.
I wouldn't be surprised to see both Terrelle Pryor and John Clay making the trip to New York City.
- Joe Paterno calls it a career, with his final game being an emotional Capital One Bowl victory over Auburn.
Just a gut feeling on this one. 2010 will be season number 45. He's outlasted Bobby Bowden, and will end his coaching career as the winningest Division 1-A coach of all time. He'll win game number 400 in October, making him one of only three men to accomplish the feat. He's never going to catch Coach Gagliardi of St. John's (MN), who is at 471 wins and still active. Would Paterno hang on one more season just to pass Eddie Robinson, who retired from Grambling in 1997 with 408 wins? I don't see that as a motivator. The only reason he'd keep going would be if he just can't give up the business, yet. And then, there is his health. It's never good when your employer has to release statements refuting health concerns for three consecutive months. And yet, that's what happened at Penn State this summer as JoePa missed a number of speaking engagements. Maybe it's nothing - I hope that it is. But it could also be what causes Sue to have a long, hard, sad conversation with her husband. If it is the end of the line for Coach Paterno, he'll deserve every word of praise that will be heaped upon him.

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Hell of a post.
Great job, but the only disagreement would have to be 10 and 17. Illinois will have the worst record and AT BEST Michigan wins 6-7 games.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 28, 2010 9:55 AM CDT reply actions
MEAT CHICKEN IS BACK!!!
and then the FAIL kicks in
RRod is told that he is free to pursue other opportunities… like manange a waffle house.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Or manage an SEC team...
That might work out better for him, though.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Might be a problem with #3.
Big Ten opens up its season with Minnesota at Middle Tennessee State in a Thursday night prime time matchup. It’s likely the only Big Ten-Sun Belt matchup that could favor the SECrificial lambs.
Even so, if Minnesota loses it tarnishes the reputation of the whole conference at the outset of the season.
Sorry I don’t follow Mid Tenn State but how do they compare to Marshall? A potential loss could be offset by tOSU disposing of Marshall.
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by Andrew Tolliver on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
MTSU had a 10 win season last year and they return a god amount of their players
think they picked off an ACC or SEC team last year too ….
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
They also return a dynamic starting QB with over 2,500 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards.
With Minnesota’s frequently anemic run defense, MTSU could have a field day.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really
Conferences are judged by the teams at the top, not the teams at the bottom. Did people think less of the SEC last year because Vandy lost to Army? No. What matters will be how the best four-five teams in the league fare in the non-con. Other than a PSU loss to Alabama, they should run the table. SHOULD. NEED TO.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
It's Thursday night.
That’s two days to snipe at the Big Ten if they lose.
MTSU could run the table in the Sun Belt and go to another bowl game.
Great post
Not just speaking as a Buckeye, but in general I think you hit everything really well. I can’t imagine a world without JoePa on the sidelines though…
I’m curious, who do you think will knock Nebraska off their tracks?
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by Andrew Tolliver on Jul 28, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions
Easy answer
is Texas. But, the Nebraska offense is just shaky enough that any 7-9 win Big 12 team could rise up and win a fluky game.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 28, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
But on the same note, Nebraska can win a fluky game against Texas. Thats the beauty of football, I guess.
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by Andrew Tolliver on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
that it will take a fluke to beat Texas this year. I think we’ll see them as the 3rd best team in the Big 12, behind the Huskers and OU.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 28, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think they could just as easily run the table in the conference and leave in a blaze of glory.
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by Andrew Tolliver on Jul 28, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
In all fairness to Tejas
I don’t see them falling far this year. Perhaps they’ll even wind up in the BCS. Mack Brown is a good enough recruiter and coach that the Longhorns will most definitely not be an easy team to beat for anyone in the country.
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I'd say #13 is somewhat accurate
But not for the reason you say…..Northwestern won’t be 8-0 (even though it’s VERY doable) heading to Happy Valley. Likely, they’ll drop 2 games before then….but those losses will be to MSU (not on your list) and Purdue (on your list). I just don’t see 2 losses coming out of @Vanderbilt, @Rice, Central Michigan, @Minnesota, Purdue. One loss there (Purdue, who is improving) maximum.
Coincidentally, this will continue a pattern from last year with the Cats — better on the road than at home.
Northwestern still gets to 8 wins, though, thanks to beating Illinois (with Minny the designated Big Ten punching bag this year), and scoring a seemingly annual upset over someone (Iowa/PSU/Wisconsin) they are big underdogs to. Since it’d be too easy/predictable to pick Iowa (and frankly, I’m sure Iowa will be ready to play and get some revenge on the Cats), I’ll go out on a limb and say Northwestern wins in Happy Valley — a shocker, for sure, but they force turnovers against the young QB and local boy Dan Persa plays the game of his life in front of his home state.
I'd say #13 is right on with NU fans' expectations
Under Fitz, the ‘Cats have developed a reputation for losing one or two they shouldn’t and then winning one or two they shouldn’t. The losses against Syracuse, Minnesota, and MSU came from a very banged-up secondary going against gamechanging receivers (SU’s Mike Williams, Decker, and Blair White).
If (and it’s a big if) NU can stay fairly healthy, hopefully they can win all the games they should and steal a few.
by Batman42 on Jul 28, 2010 1:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Which is why....
…I don’t see them losing non-conference (no game-changing WRs on Vandy, Rice, CMU, or Illinois State), but maybe can see a loss to Purdue (stacked at WR) or MSU (also stacked at WR, but also with a proven QB). Same reason I think PSU (no game-changers at WR, and unproven at QB) is the NU-patented upset…..
I couldn't agree more
Northwestern has a pretty good team this year, particularly on offense, in spite of their quarterback switch. Iowa, given the past two years, is going to be itching for a major beatdown, and I suspect they will get it, winning in a fashion not seen last year. However, an upset of major proportions is forthcoming, I suspect, most likely at Penn State (even if it isn’t as big of an upset as Wisconsin). On the flip side of that, though, I think a ten- or eleven-win season isn’t completely out of reach for the Wildcats, however unlikely the latter is (and I mean very unlikely).
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Couple Disagreements
1) Nebraska struggled with the lack of playmakers yes but look at their receivers. Almost every pass they look two steps slower thanthe guys covering them and they never seem to be able to get open (save Niles Paul in the Holiday Bowl). I could see them beating Texas and the rest of their regular conference schedule looks winnable, but that trip to Washington and the matchup with OU in the championship game are tough.
2) I don’t see OSU running the table this year. However, I do agree on the team they are most likely to lose to.
3) Michigaan State will finish higher than Penn State. Dantonio proved he could coach this team as underdogs and he is back in that role again tis year. They should have no problem stopping the run and they could take a small step forward in pass protection despite the losses. Their offense get’s continuity with a certain starter at QB with a loaded receiving corps to throw to. If Caper or whoever is running the ball isable to manage a run game they have the right schedule to beat just about anybody. PSU’s perceived issues on offense have been well documented but they will also be breaking in a new DL, LB, and will have to figure out how to play pass coverage since it was pretty bad last year. Penn State will still go to a Florida bowl game but this is the worst squad they will have fielded in a while.
4) Purdue is somewhat overrated. Joey Elliot sat behind Curtis Painter for years before he had to lead that offense which was part of the reason he was so succesful. Marve won’t be quite as good and without Boldin and yet another year of rotating their defense Purdue coud have a hard time reaching six wins.
5) Don’t give Michigan too much credit yet, they still have to replace Carlos Brown and Brandon Minor along with some of the best players on their offensive line. The secondary looks like garbage and how do they generate a consistent pass rush without Brandon Graham? The Iowa game there scares me also but they are hardly a lock for 8 wins.
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Joey Elliot is gone
Robert Marve is he new starter.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
woops, didn't mean to end post
Robert Marve > Joey Elliot, but you’re right about Boldin being gone not being good news. I still see them being better tha last year though.
Have to agree on UM not being good this year. You hit the nail on the head when talking about the RB position and then the losses on defense. Michigan is 5 win team maybe.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
and the impending FAIL that is the 3-3-5
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
corrections
Its Ralph Bolden, not Boldin. And for some reason he is listed #1 on the depth chart at RB, although I don’t see him coming back until the second half of the season. We have Al-Terek McBurse at RB and he is talented as well as a full complement of fullbacks who can block and catch passes as well.
And on the other note, we LOVE the 3-3-5 from Michigan………….lol
You have that wrong. It's the 1-1-9.
Which is probably where it’ll be RANKED at the end of the year…
On the other hand, the idea of rushing one man, having one linebacker, and everyone else in the endzone could work for Michigan…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
lol @ their rank. Now now lets be realistic I’m sure they’ll be just fi…
…ok they’re going to be awful.
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by Andrew Tolliver on Jul 28, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Purdue will reach six wins easily
Replacing Northern Illinois and Oregon with Western Illinois and Ball State gives them three wins (counting Toledo, which shouldn’t be close) when they were 1-3 in non-conference last year. As long as they just beat Indiana, Illinois, and Minnesota that is six wins right there. They’ll be better than that.
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I see them going about 8-4ish.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Not easily
but it is certainly possible (I didn’t say they wouldn’t but rather it would be harder for them to do than people are assuming). I have less faith in Robert Marve’s ability to run the offense as smoothly as Elliot did last year and I think the defense will struggle with another year with some major turnover. Also I think people are being incredibly optimistic about Ralph Bolden. McBurse is solid but I don’t see him being quite the playmaker.
Their schedule is a bit easier yes but I think you are underestimating a couple of Big Ten teams. 3-1 in non-conference is what I would think will happen and it gets you half way there. I don’t see Purdue taking three in a row from Michigan so that leaves Minnesota, Illinois, and Indiana as the most likely wins.
I know this is the time of year where we all have a pretty clear cut and dry idea of who should beat who but I have a feeling that Ron Zook, Bill Lynch, and Tim Brewster will each be fighting tooth and nail for a bowl game this season and Purdue will likely be circled as a must win on their calender. If Purdue is getting the best shots of all of those teams and they end up taking a small step back from last year they would be vulnerable.
It would be a bit of a stretch to assume a third win over Michigan in a row (especially with Rich Rod in the same boat as those other coaches) and Ohio State is likely out of the question. I could see them maybe upsetting MSU but if they don’t and they get upset they are in trouble.
I do hope you all make a bowl game. Purdue’s offense running roughshot over Mizzou or Kansas in the Insight Bowl or over an SEC team on January morning would be awfully entertaining to watch.
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Just want to point out one thing.
Everyone keeps talking about how it’d be difficult for certain teams to win three in a row against UM because of history, but if we’re assuming that Michigan is going to have a crappy defense and will thus try to beat people with the shootout, I’d say that favors Purdue as it did in the last two games.
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by ReadingRambler on Jul 29, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
but if you read what I said about the fact that so many of these coaches are really going to be pushing harder against the teams they feel they have the best chance to defeat in order to keep their jobs and the second year of turnover on the Purdue defense I think this one still rolls in Michigan’s favor.
I would bet that losing three straight to Purdue would be pretty damn embarassing if I were Michigan and if I were a player on that team I would want to correct that, it isn’t like they weren’t in the last two games.
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Great post Bama!
I disagree with 10 and 17, though. I can easily see them start 0-2, and then the bad karma just builds on itself. They started 4-0 last season, and then faded late. I just don’t see them finishing strong, as I think it’s difficult for a run spread option team to endure the physicality of the Big 10 as the season goes on, and it puts them at a disadvantage. But that’s just me.
Of course, I really have no idea on Michigan. I can see them go 4-8 just as easily as I can see them going 9-3.
I think a good start leads to a good season, like you said. They have a tough schedule out of the gate though.
As for the Gophers, I don’t think they’ll be that bad, and I can see them going 6-6 again. Why Brewster got away from the spread is beyond me, especially after recruiting for that system for two or three years. And if Brewster beats a rival and wins a bowl game, he’ll be back.
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by Kyle McCann't on Jul 28, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see why, he has three already.
God, you Hawkeyes sure are dumb.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 29, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn, harsh crowd
And fixed. I mean, you were right, and all…
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Really?
I think a good start leads to a good season
It sure helped them a lot last year. They had a 4-0 start with the “instant classic” battle of mediocrity with Notre Dame. Look where it got them. Home for Christmas.
Fair enough
but that was last year. You can argue that UConn is the best team in the Big East, and will probably be favored for that game. I firmly believe that no Charlie Weiss is addition by subtraction, and Brian Kelly is going to make Notre Dame a very good team. If, and it’s a big if, UM starts 2-0, their next four games are Massachusetts, Bowling Green, at Indiana, and Michigan State. It’s not hard to envision 6-0 for them. Then they play Iowa and at Penn State, which I don’t see them winning. So that’s 6-2. They finish up with Illinois (win), at Purdue (win), Wisconsin (loss), at OSU (loss).
That’s 8-4, with wins over rivals ND and MSU, and a bowl game. For RRod and UM at this point, is a good season. They get some early season momentum, survive a rough patch, and get a decent bowl game. If they start 0-2. the cacophany of ‘fire RRod!’ consumes the entire program, and I can see them going into another 3-9 tailspin. UConn might be a better team this year, but historically, they’re a blip on the radar, and a loss to a program with no historical college pedigree will NOT sit well in Ann Arbor. Not App St bad, but bad. A loss to Notre Dame, a program that mirrors UM lately (except without the smell of scandal) and UM will think that ‘if Brian Kelly can turn ND around so quickly, why can’t RRod?’.
And then it gets 55 year old, three packs of smokes a day, drug abusing hooker ugly.
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Yes, the non-con is loaded with patsies, but don’t get me started on karma. We have a large karma credit to cash in on.
by hoosierdaddynow on Jul 28, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
But....
Karma isn’t going to help in the Bucket Game, unless you bring a bucket of it. And, you don’t have a bucket to carry it in so even if you had it you’re SOL.
by BoilerUpAT on Jul 28, 2010 7:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
*sigh*
What I hate is that I have absolutely no comeback (in football season).
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by hoosierdaddynow on Jul 29, 2010 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
At least you are a good sport about it. I hope Indiana makes a bowl game this year and with that OOC it shouldn’t be that difficult.
by BoilerUpAT on Jul 29, 2010 8:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I may be in the minority among IU fans
But I see Purdue as kind of a “twin brother”. There’s definitely some sibling rivalry, and it’s a little oppressive when things are going well in W Lafayette. I will also not lie to you: one of my all-time favorite sporting events was the 88 Bucket game (52-7, IU, at Ross Ade). And I don’t mind seeing them lose to the likes of Penn State, Wisky, Minny and (sometimes) Iowa.
But, all things considered, I’ll cheer for them against tOSU, Michigan (in football, anyway), Illinois. So I have some grudging respect for Purdue. By contrast, I hate Kentucky. And I really, really, really don’t like Illinois, either.
Bowl game will be good, even if it is in Detroit. Good luck to you as well.
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by hoosierdaddynow on Jul 29, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I know how you feel
I’m somewhat in the same boat. I wish Indiana well, most of the time, even though I do consider Indiana a rival for sure. Not just in football, but everything when it comes to the state of Indiana (BB, Football, other sports, academics, recruiting, who’s band plays at the Indy 500 for God’s sake) and on and on. But I don’t HATE Indiana.
My hatred in this state is focused primarily on the same place its been focused for the last 32 years-Notre Dame. If you are a Boilermaker you automatically despise anything ND. Its a must-maybe we just can’t like 2 programs with Gold in their uniforms I don’t know. Maybe its because they won’t play us in BB anymore. Maybe its because I hate South Bend. Maybe I can’t stand Lou Holtz. Maybe its because I hate the arrogance they show towards everyone else………
I wish Indiana well, but when they come to Ross-Ade, I expect another 62-10 beatdown, Bill Lynch throwing his gum, and Boilermakers hoisting the bucket in the air AGAIN.
+1 Million on Domer hate
I’m so glad that the Big Ten expanded with Lincoln, and not South Bend. Although it would be nice to (eventually, after this current phase ends) chalk up two conference basketball wins on an annual basis by having South Bend Community College to kick around. Come to think of it, though, Nebraska will fit that role nicely, too.
by hoosierdaddynow on Jul 30, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Sigh...
try being a boilermaker living in South Bend… most frustrating thing ever. Although I do like showing my hatred for them by going tailgating with my friends, all decked out in my Purdue gear. I make sure it is known that I hate them, and I cheer as loudly for the other team as possible.
My favorite memory of this was in ‘06 when Michigan State played them, and we took a bus from White Field, where we were tailgating, to the stadium, and the bus was packed with people (50 percent Michigan State, 25 percent Notre Dame, and the rest were all just cheering for State out of hatred for Notre Dame, like me.) being 75 percent haters, we started a chant of “Charlie Weis! Krispy Kreme!”, while pounding on the roof of the bus and windows, all the way to the stadium. State went on to win the game, and planted the flag claiming Notre Dame’s stadium as their home away from home. My Notre Dame friends were heartbroken!

It was a GREAT day.
2010 Big Ten Champs, Baby!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course
Sparty looked rather silly the next season when they lost and John L. Smith sent three of his players out to defend midfield because he assumes everyone is as classless as he was.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
According to Wikipedia...
Notre Dame already had shown they were classless two years prior:
2004 Game in Spartan Stadium
The 2004 MSU vs. ND game ended with a 31-24 Irish victory amid allegations by Lansing media member Earle Robinson, and several other fans in the area, that the Irish planted their flag in front of the visitors section of Spartan Stadium during their postgame celebrations.2
That is just one instance. Everyone knows that, especially during the Weis era, Notre Dame is not known for their class.
Also, who doesn’t bring the rivalry trophy to the sidelines during the game? Oh, that’s right, the arrogant asshats at Notre Dame:
Post-game flag planting
The winner of the Michigan State-Notre Dame game is given possession of the Megaphone Trophy for the year. Notre Dame did not have the trophy at hand, however, as the Irish claim to not bring trophies to rivalry games.3 Without the trophy to raise4 after the win, a group of Michigan State football players planted the Michigan State flag on the 35-yard line.
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Aug 1, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
You've upgraded your PSU prediction
from the 8-4 you predicted in your summer bowl projections. 9-3 is where the smart money is on PSU this year. That being said, I think both Bama and Iowa will be more vulnerable than the pre-season hype is letting on—Iowa because of the rebuilding OL, and Alabama because of the entire defense, especially if Marcell Dareus isn’t on the field. I think PSU splits those games to get to 10-2.
Michigan is going to be BAD on defense. Like, really bad. They were the worst defense in the conference last year, and that was with league MVP Brandon Graham on the field. For as long as Greg Robinson is running the show, expect Michigan to give up 30+ points a game. 5-7 if they’re lucky.
Wisconsin over OSU is becoming a popular prediction—perhaps too popular for OSU to ignore. I think Pryor loses one game for OSU in a meltdown (like Purdue in ‘09 and PSU in ’08), but I don’t think it will be against Wisconsin. On a related note, I don’t think Pryor will so much as sniff any serious Heisman consideration. The Rose Bowl was a statistical mirage for him; Oregon’s defense was one of the 2 or 3 worst defenses he faced all year. Once he gets back to playing in the Big Ten, he’ll go back to having sub-par passing numbers.
PSU has been building up the talent to make a NC run in 2011 and/or 2012. Joe knows this. So, I don’t think he’s planning on hanging it up after this season. For the record, barring a major downturn in either Joe’s health or the team’s success, I don’t think he will ever retire. He’ll die as head coach of PSU.
Brewster will stay for at least one more year. Zook might be able to hang on if he gets to 7-5 or even 6-6, but I don’t think he will. RichRod will get to hang on for another year if the offense starts to look better, but Greg Robinson will be out the door for sure (and really, he should have been shown the door after last season).
And yes, people are going to bitch uproariously about division alignments. Fans and writers have explored literally every possible division at this point, and it is abundantly clear that none of them is perfect. So, whatever inevitable flaws make it into the official plan will be the fodder for a whole bunch of dumb, unhappy articles.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jul 28, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think I've reached the point where I am already tired of speculation
dear football season,
hurry up. we’re losing our minds over here!
Love,
SBB
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 12:13 PM CDT reply actions
Preach it! I told one of my co-workers to build a time machine to get me to September. I can’t take it anymore!
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
We're the Big Ten, who the F@*# are YOU??!?!?!
by Andrew Tolliver on Jul 28, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
#7 is
cute but wrong. Remember how you were certain we would lose to Sparty last year? Trust me; my dog is named Kinnick.
So...
…once every 2 years your dog won’t answer to anything but “Ryan Field West”?
For the last time
Just because you win there, it doesn’t mean you get to call an opponent’s stadium by another name. It only happens when the fanbase of a school is so apathetic that it doesn’t turn out for games so that your “road” game becomes a de facto home game, regardless of result. You know, kind of like what EVERYONE ELSE in the Big Ten does when playing in Evanston.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Exactly. Your fans have to outnumber the home crowd in order to rename a stadium.
jNW should concentrate on not being outnumbered in their home stadium.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jul 29, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Average ranking
Of Ryan Field attendance statistics (most to least)
1. Opposing teams’ fans
2. Empty seats
3. Northwestern fans
In the instances of Indiana/Purdue playing at Evenaston, #s 1 & 2 should be reversed.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jul 29, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Criminy!
Then Nebraska’s losing three home stadia next year – Memorial East (Jack Trice) Memorial Southwest (Bill Snyder Family) – and Memorial South (Kansas – who knows what that place is even called).
by Albino Tornado on Jul 30, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
But your gaining three new ones!
You get to use Ryan Fielld, the Bank in Minneapolis (Memorial Northeast to differentiate from Kinnick North), and probably Indiana too.
See my signature...
That sort of thing happens to me all the time…
My kingdom for a spellchecker...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 31, 2010 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Spellcheck nothing
I want an edit button.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jul 31, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
The Nittany Lions will beat Alabama
by three in a low scoring game.
"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway
How much have you had to drink today?
Just thought I’d ask ;P
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 28, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
"Roll Tide" is a phrase
that should never be thought, much less written, on a Big Ten site.
"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway
by SubLime on Jul 28, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
you know what else comes on a roll?
toilet paper.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
What about NCAA probation?
Does that come with a Rolex? Or a BMW?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
land rover LR 4 in southern cal.....
cough, joe McKnight, cough
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Roll Tide?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 28, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
awesome
Never seen roll tide in TRE
by Graham Filler on Jul 28, 2010 8:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I have to admit
As far as “Cool sounding phrases” go, it’s probably up there right next to “Rolling Thunder” or “Wrath of God”.
Me gustan los estados unidos.
What's at the top, "Go Hawkeyes?"
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 6, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Joe Pa does beat Saban, but I'm not holding my breath.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jul 28, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
JoePa's record vs. Saban @ MSU...
1995 WIN, 24-20
1996 WIN, 32-29
1997 LOSS, 14-49
1998 WIN, 51-28
1999 LOSS 28-35
Note: the 1999 loss was the finale of the epic Penn State collapse that allowed Wisconsin to win the Big Ten outright.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Saban @ MSU is way diff than Saban @ Bama
Close. It only counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and Penn State football.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
True. Saban never had a Heisman winner @ MSU.
And, as far as I know, he didn’t have to replace almost his entire defense, and have one of the only remaining starters suspended by the NCAA…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
and .... something about Plaxico Burress ad his swet pants/holster
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't Muhsin Muhammad on those MSU teams?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
drafted in 1996 out of MSU
so… does that make one season(1995) with Saban?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
Muhsin Muhammad spent at least one season lined up with Derrick Mason.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
yet cracking 10 wins is the toughest task for every MSU team ever.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell that to MSU's bball team...
Which defies that trend year in, year out.
Yeah, the 2008 football team wasn’t half as good offensively as 2009. The 09 squad could at least pu up a TON of points, the 08 team just had Bret Bielema hand them a game…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
MSU football: Snatching defeat from the jaws of vistory since 1960
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean like sitting back and WATCHING McNutt catch a game winning TD?
Or getting shelled in Camp Randall?
Or getting pasted by the Nittany Lions?
Or getting generally pwned by Ohio State?
Or getting destroyed by Minnesota?
Or getting upset by Notre Dame?
Or losing to Central- Okay, I give up.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, i mean all of those things. very very much.
i mean them so hard.
losing to notre dame is crushing fashion…. every year?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, MSU has the most consecutive wins in Notre Dame Stadium.
At six straight…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
weird...
i can’t seem to remember any of them, except when they planted the flag on the 50
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
MSU football during the JLSmith era
A forgettable experience, at best. That is, unless your roommate was Ashton Youboty.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
nope. couple classes, but we didn't live together
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
what does that say about what i did in school?
same major as ashton youboty …..
and no Maurice …
oh well.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe it was the 35 yard line.
At least according to Wikipedia it was…
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jul 31, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny, you listed over half a dozen "Sparty, Noooo!" moments.
Care to take back what you said about the McNutt TD against MSU being an Iowa moment?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 28, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It IS an Iowa moment.
It kept you guys undefeated…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Dantonio is the most overrated coach in the Big Ten, I am afraid
so I agree with number 12. But your faith in Michigan is misguided at best. I’ll assume you had one too many cough drops when you wrote #7 and #10. That program is in total disarray. Iowa demolishes programs in disarray and the notion that either a 165 lbs QB or one who does not tie his shoes, that either will make it through a Big Ten season without being dismembered now that the league has seen all of Rich Rods tricks, is laughable.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
he was a great d-coordinator. but agree, he has underwelmed as a HC at best
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
After the JLS and Bobby Williams eras.....
……I’ll gladly take 3 straight bowl games under Dantonio, along with much stronger recruiting classes coming in for the future.
Sure, there has been the occasional hiccup (Central Michigan), but mostly, Dantonio’s teams have won the game they’re supposed to, and gotten a couple upsets along the way.
I think Dantonio's problem, in some respects, is maturity
He’s a great coach, in my opinion, and has raised the expectations for Sparty. But…
He’s way better than JLS, but that little media pissing match he got into with Mike Hart was juvenile. It’s one thing for young players to do that kind of stuff; almost every team has a guy that says something really stupid to the media. But it’s somewhat understandable, as they’re still kids going through the maturation process.
But a coach doing that? Not a slap yourself moment, but it does raise the eyebrows.
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
No MSU fan will ever feel bad about that incident
He called out Michigan and told them they could laugh about their win but to look out. We beat them the next two years and in that season Dantonio rallied the team to make a bowl game, including a comeback win over PSU.
Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
for everyone....
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
BAma Hawkeye, I have a wager for you...
but first let me tell you that predictions #8, 10, 11, 17, and 18 are dead wrong.
First off, MIchigan is flat out terrible. They have a lot of offense, but their D will be flat out awful. The 3-3-5 is not a D built for the Big Ten (and yeah, I know they won´t go with that set up all of the time, or even most of it), and they have a secondary filled with 17 year olds.
Penn State will have the worst QB play in the conference, and will win 7 or maybe 8 games behind a solid D, great RBs and not much else. The O-line is suspect as well.
Purdue—will struggle mightily. They had too many injuries in spring ball, Ralph Bolden will not be back to 100%, and while Robert Marve is a nice player the D will not be good.
Here is my wager, If Minnesota has the worst conference record going into the battle for Floyd of Rosedale, I´ll buy you a keg to pregame. BUT, if the Gophers don´t, and the Gophers win one game out of USC, Penn State, and Wisconsin you owe me a keg.
Deal?
Your blind Minnesota hate is actually becoming very cute, in a desperate the big dance is two weeks away and you´re the girl who hasn´t been asked to the prom sort of way. If you knew anything about the Gophers you´d know that the guys starting this year almost all played supporting roles last year as RS frosh. The secondary is solid but can´t afford injury, Minnesota has the best DT combo in the conference not from Iowa, Ohio State, or PSU, the DEs are freakishly athletic and experienced, and those new starting backers all played significant minutes last year and had more production than any non-starting underclassmen backers except Wisconsin´s Borland (look it up)
Weber was 2nd team all conference in 08. With a finally healthy O-line (with 3 starters that played very injured all of last season) The Gopher O will be 6th or 7th in the conference. That will be enough for the D to really shine.
Gophers win no less than 6 this year. My money is on 7 or 8.
How do you feel about Brewster? Do you think they should keep him?
by HawkeyeRecon on Jul 28, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I know Iowa fans wish Brewster could coach forever...
Considering the scores of the last two matchups…
55-0
12-0
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewster is to Iowa what RRod is to OSU?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Guess so.
For evidence, here’s this emphatic statement, from the April chronicling of Minnesota…
The Gophers haven’t won a share of the Big Ten title in 43 years. They haven’t played a January game in 48. The numbers don’t lie. Minnesota is no longer a rival to their claimed foes Iowa and Wisconsin. No, Minnesota is a joke.
We love you, Goldy. Never change.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
minnesota guy that didn't like my post over at inside the shoe is gonna be pissed @ u now!
they have one 3 or more games every year in the past whatever except 2007! HOW DARE YOU!
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, it was YOUR prediction, not mine.
And seriously, losing an entire linebacking corp. is a bit much for a defense that wasn’t that good last year…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly.
BUT THE ALWAYS WIN AT LEAST 3 GAMES!
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
sort of misleading
The Defense was very good last year. THe offense, however, was so terrible that the D was constantly on the field. This distorted their stats and led to them running out of gas late in games. The young Defensive players all got significant time last year. Cooper and Tinsley had the most tackles of any underclassmen non-starting LBs in the BIg Ten (unless Borland for WIsconsin wasn´t starting. not sure about that). The DTs are big, fast and experienced. The DEs are physical freaks (2 of whom got PT last year). The secondary should be good if they can stay healthy.
Bottom line is, Decker got hurt, and the O-line played hurt all year. Jed Fisch was trying to run a pro-complicated offense with college kids (WR reads every play, QB making line calls, etc.)
The O-line is finally healthy. Weber is finally healthy. The D will be good if the offense is improved at all.
And it will be.
SBB, care to cite what Minnesota's run defense was ranked in the Big Ten?
That’s the key statistic here.
Minnesota’s run defense gave up 295 rushing yards in the loss to Wisconsin. They would give up 270 rushing yards to Ohio State. And Minnesota gave up 170 rushing yards in that shutout loss to Penn State.
In all, Minnesota gave up 1760 rushing yards last season. The thirteen game average runs about 135 rushing yards per game, good for 6th in the Big Ten.
By contrast, Wisconsin gave up 1086 rushing yards. The thirteen game average? 83.5 rushing yards per game.
Ohio State trumped everyone with 1001 rushing yards. Their thirteen game average was 77.0 rushing yards a game.
Why promote a defense that was highly flawed at best last season? If you took out the Iowa game, Minnesota’s rushing yards allowed per game would be 142.1.
Point? Backed Up. Amuse me if you wish.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I did. And I backed up MY post.
Your reasoning is that the Minnesota defense was very good last year? Very good defenses NEVER give up 295 yards rushing. NEVER.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
never less than 3 wins
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
OBrien
Is a flippin’ numbskull. Well thought out Ahlibobwa. Perhaps a little optimistic for me, but more on target than OBS.
by InflectionPoint on Jul 30, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't it so cool to try and insult people on the internet?
OBS is more than on target with a lot of things, and has so much knowledge of the history of the game. It’s peoples opinions, so don’t say they “know” more than other people.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 31, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. Just...wow.
And to think I could have gone my entire life without being called a numbskull until now.
Incredible. It’s an unusual experience, to be sure.
My kingdom for a spellchecker...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 31, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
And he was already annoyed with me.
Do I dare quote? I will? I will.
posted by the great AhliBowba
you know the Gophers win at least 3 conference games … basically every year that wasn´t 2007. If you´re going to hate, at least be accurate.
Gophers win 4 conference games this year BTW.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
And block quote fail.
Wonderful.
you know the Gophers win at least 3 conference games … basically every year that wasn´t 2007. If you´re going to hate, at least be accurate.
Gophers win 4 conference games this year BTW.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
laughable at best.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe the Gophers would win 4 conference games...
in the ACC…
I don’t think they’d do so well in basketball, though.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
how dare you, tubby smith wins at least 3 conf games a year
they win 4 this year btw
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
One of them against Wisconsin, probably.
But then the Gophers will be swept humiliated by Michigan, and Michigan State will pwn Michigan, and Ohio State will trade games with Michigan State, and Purdue will come out of nowhere until Hummel’s knee decides it has better things to do than stay healthy, and Wisconsin will take a game from the Boilermakers…
I don’t know what I’m more excited for. Bball season or football season…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Not even a question.
It’s obviously Cross Country season.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 28, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
*sarcasm**
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 28, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Which of Matta's players is going to make the jump to the NBA this year?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Ski's right, sullinger
He’s already projected by some to be a top 3 pick.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahem
What they said.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 29, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
Every coach deserves 5 years. period.
Brewster has upgraded the schedule and the recruiting at Minnesota. While he struggled out of the gate he now has a very good staff in place, with two veteran coordinators far enough along in their careers I believe they will stay awhile. Minnesota has the biggest and most athletic squad I´ve seen in my short lifetime as a Gopher fan.
People will rip on me for saying it, but true Gopher fans know the future is bright.
The future is bright
Hasn’t that been the mantra for every Minnesota season for the past decade? At some point, Brewster has to deliver on the promise, and to-date, he hasn’t.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I thought Minnesota was tougher under Mason when they had a legitimate power running attack.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jul 29, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
They were much, much tougher.
In fact, they were able to put up points against Iowa! Which is NOT a Minnesota concept today…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I've missed you Ahli
But let me teach you something. There is a difference between hatred and a negative opinion. I don’t hate Minnesota. I’ve never had any reason to. I do, however, think very little of the current Gophers coaching staff and the squad that they’ll be putting out there in September. That’s based upon past performance. Big difference.
Now, you’re arguing that Minnesota has a better defense than I’m giving them credit for. Your points are: 1) many returning Sophomores who were able to earn some minutes on a 6-7 Gopher defense; 2) a thin secondary that has solid starters; 3) the conference’s 4th best pair of D-Tackles; 4) freakishly athletic D-Ends, and 5) linebackers who played some reserve minutes last year. That’s fine. And if we were talking about a team that was exceptional on defense last year, so many backup taking starting positions might not raise too many red flags. However, the Gopher defense gave up 20 points in 9 of 13 games. They gave up 30 points five times. That wasn’t the Purple People Eaters out there. I understand that you want the Gophers defense to be good. I just don’t have any proof that they will be.
Yes, Weber was good in 2008. He was also very bad in 2009, especially when Decker was injured. Now, he has no Decker.
When I look at this Gopher squad, I don’t see what they do well. Last year, I could point to the Weber/Decker combo and an experienced defense and see how they could win 7 games. And that’s what I picked last year. This year? I don’t see anything exceptional that they do on offense or defense. Running the pro-style, we should anticipate an attempt at balance. Do they have the talent at RB, OL, and WR to keep defenses honest? It hasn’t been shown yet. I don’t have any proof that we should anticipate it this year. I understand that you want the Gophers offense to be good. I just don’t have any proof that it will be.
I don’t wager, but I suspect that Vegas will set an over/under on Minnesota wins at about 5 or 5.5. No matter how I work it through, even giving best case scenarios to the Gophers, I have a really hard time seeing the over pay out.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 28, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which is to say nothing of the fact
that the Big Ten is tougher top-to-bottom than last year. Again, nothing against Minnesota just not the best set of circumstances for them.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jul 28, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
What's this logic crap that you're using in your argument?!?
Minnesota to the Rose Bowl bitches!!! WHOOOO!!!
by imadirtyoldman on Jul 29, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Worst QB play in the conference?
I’m not saying that QB play will be PSU’s strength, but 3 of the 4 QBs battling for the starting spot are very talented and were very highly recruited coming out of high school. There’s more than enough talent to cobble together at least decent QB play—and at least a 9-3 season.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jul 28, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
#5 is a problem
Iowa not having a good record against Ohio State the last 30 years is a good point, but not relevant to this year. I watched Iowa bring OSU to the brink and with Stanzi they probably would have won. That being said I think some lingering emotion will be carried over from last year and Kinnick will be foaming at the mouth for an undefeated Buckeye squad. If number 7 holds true (I might agree with you on that one except for the fact that high schoolers could put points on that D) Ferentz and company will prevail in November.
Problem with #19
No way will Terrell Pryor be a finalist for the Heisman Trophy. His running is good, but his passing is quirky and decision making average. Too many other stellar candidates for the Heisman that will outshine Pryor.
I'm fine with him not winning a hesiman... no curse that way.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
blah, troy smith, eddie george and one year for archie.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
unless you're talking about murdering x-wives
being AD when the fall of troy happened or dating ray-j’s sloppy 2nds and getting your trophy stripped…
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Marcus Allen
The only honorable USC running back?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
looks to be that way
side note: doesn’t lane kiffin sound like he has balls in his mouth when he talks?
maybe i just hear him too much one the radio/tv/etc ad only i hear that
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Lane Kiffin has mastered the kind of launguage it takes to get
young, egotistical, top overall prospects to “commit” to his school, and then walk away classlessly.
Bryce Brown, you are a Grade F Moron, so you cannot transfer to a Big Ten School. It would be condescending for Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa, Penn State, Purdue, or Northwestern to accept you on to the football team. End of line.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Whe I listed the teams, I went with no order in particular, if that's what you meant.
Illinois needs all the help they can get. That’s why I didn’t include them.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought it was a shot at the Zooker's recruiting
Although I guess even Zook doesn’t deserve comparisons to Kiffin.
by Batman42 on Jul 29, 2010 10:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If Zook had been able to recruit Bryce Brown
The Illini might have done more than just beat Michigan and Minnesota…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Not if he coached him
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
So raw talent does NOT equal titles?
Zook’s just flat-out doomed then…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
His passing was quirky.
Just ask Oregon. They know. Right?
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 28, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll be honest. Oregon's defense couldn't have won the Big Ten
With Ron Dayne as the running back and Troy Smith as the QB. Question answered.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Hehe
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 28, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
the only thing I care is that he continues to improve and develop
he’ll be just fine.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 28, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ohio St may be good enough this year that they don't need T Pryor to win it for them.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jul 28, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Aside from Hines, their secondary is not the great sort of secondary
that enables a team to totally shut down the opposing passing game.
That and the fact that their corners are prone to getting burned repeatedly. You want proof? Here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdW61Mi7HW0&fmt=18
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Devon Torrence is probably the best corner on the team and finished the season strong.
Chekwa, well…. he’s the 2nd corner and for a lot of people has replaced Anderson Russell as the object of scorn and hatred in the secondary.(I’m not on that train though) Hines will finally see significant playing time and Tyler Moeller is back from that head injury which caused him to miss all of last year. Moeller might not even be a factor as a lot of people have soph Ohrian Johnson penciled in as the starter, and he’s from Flordia so you know he runs a 1.3 40.
Both safeties are obviously gone, but the only one that stings for now is Capt Kurt. Most are glad to see Russell gone, and feel that whoever we throw back there will automatically be an upgrade.
There may be some growing pains, but I think things will be greatly aided by a great defensive line and linebacking corps creating pressure and forcing mistakes.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I thought Hines was being groomed into a starting position.
He played very well last season.
I think Chekwa and Torrence are at the same level as far as physical ability. Whether or not they use that ability to their advantage remains to be seen.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Hines will start at one of the safety positions, you are correct.
The battle is between Moeller a Senior and Johnson the Soph.
While Chekwa and Torrence have similar physical abilities I think Torrence plays the ball better and has less of a tendency to get caught holding or hugging a guy when the ball is in the air.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
So Torrence isn't a walking defensive pass interference penalty?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
that doesn't realy seem like a compliment does it?
i tried….
Chekwa just needs to learn how to turn his head more.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
And CATCH the ball?
If there was a year Tressel could use Ahmed Plummer, it’s this year…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
he did have a memorable INT against Mark Sanchez in 2008
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, well that game didn't go so well, did it?
35-3. Rey Maualuga was announced as the starting TE five minutes before kickoff, and he didn’t disappoint. Wait, WHAT?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
it was the onyl good play from that game, picked him in the end zone....
I was at that game, ug-leeeee.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
That game shattered any illusions that Todd Boeckman could be a serviceable QB...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
unless he's playing in happy valley
that’s what bothered most buckeye fans about him, he COULD have games like that, but they were too few and far between.
A lot of people were also upset when Tress went with Pryor in 2008, but the way I see it we had to play for the future and also put ourselves in the best position to win right now. Boeckman just wasn’t that guy, especially with the way the line played.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Boeckman should have started against Penn State in 2008.
With him, they had the perfect offense for attacking Penn State’s defense: a pro style passing attack. Penn State didn’t get a lot of pressure on the quarterback and though Pryor didn’t play a great game, he often found his first option wide open downfield for several big gains.
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by ReadingRambler on Jul 30, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Johnson gets the safety spot
But Moeller will be used when they need for a STAR player…which is often seeing as we saw Hines frequently last year.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 29, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
that's what I'm thinking too
especially since moeller is kind of in between safety and LB size
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
His passing was often quirky in that game too.
He had his good moments (Two touchdown passes) and his bad moments (One pass in the first half that was like a javelin throw but backwards and the silly lofted pass that Ballard managed to grab).
I also agree with OBrien. Iowa, Penn State, and Wisconsin will all have better defenses.
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by ReadingRambler on Jul 28, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa 27, Ohio State 21, book it.
I think Ohio State will lose to Michigan as well, though and the blue man group will start to get scary from here on in.
Iowa does have a chance to win.
but Michigan?? You do mean the team that won 3 games last year right? That one? This isn’t John Cooper..this..is JIM TRESSEL
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 29, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
John Cooper would throw away the Michigan game with a double digit lead in the 3rd quarter...
But it wasn’t quite as spectacular as Ron Dayne rushing for FOUR second half TD’s to hand 1999 OSU a 42-17 loss.
Could that game be the worst ever loss in Ohio Stadium History? Or would any loss at home to Michigan automatically trump it?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
The most surprising thing about that game wasn't Dayne going for four TDs...
The miracle in that game was that OSU actually had a 17-0 lead late in the first half. In retrospect, I’m really not sure how the hell that happened.
That 1999 squad was probably OSU’s worst team in the last 20 years, and Wisconsin was really, really good that year. The Badgers must have overslept before kickoff, that’s the only explanation for that game being close even for a half….
I think that that’s one of maybe five games in my Buckeye fan career that I actually turned off before the clock ran out. Probably three of those were in 1999…..
by Findlay Buckeye on Jul 29, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Amazingly enough, the season wasn't that BAD before Wisconsin scored 42 unanswered points...
I mean, they lost 12-23 to Miami (which was more or less the same Miami squad that upended “invincible” UCLA the year before). Actually, Ohio State DEFEATED the previous year’s Pac 10 Champions (UCLA) for their first win. After two decisions against Ohio and Cincy, Ohio State forgot how to play good football in the second half.
Bret Musberger was singing the Buckeyes’ praises through the first half and then acted like he’d been a Badger fan all along in the second…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
More accurately
this isn’t Lloyed Carr, it’s RichRod
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by Flakbait on Jul 29, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Touche
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 29, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
There’s not a lot of logic in my prediction, but it’s football and I’ve just got a feeling that Michigan beats Ohio State this year. I think the 3-3-5 is odd enough to make Pryor have more mistakes than usual, since this will be his first time seeing it, I think by that time in the year Michigan will have Denard Robinson at QB and the offense will be scary.
And for the record, Michigan won five games last year.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jul 30, 2010 4:19 AM CDT up reply actions
On MSU
1. I’m pretty sure Dantonio has a winning October record. JLS is not the coach anymore. I’d say based on last season that Michigan is more likely to crap themselves when Big Ten play starts.
2. MSU will not lose to Western. MSU will be better than last season, and Western is not as good as Central was last year. MSU (and a pathetic Michigan team as well) killed Western last year (with a third/fourth string RB to boot)
3. I said so in the bowl predictions thread, but MSU will win more games than Michigan. MSU had a bad season, but they still went 4-4 in conference. If they can at least match that and beat Notre Dame and FAU in the out of conference they’ll sit at 8-4. Meanwhile Michigan’s defense sucks and their offense is fueled more by hope than reality.
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I don't think so
MSU’s October schedule:
Wisconsin
@ Michigan
Illinois
@Northwestern
@Iowa
MSU drops three of those.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 29, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Before last year, MSU kinda had Iowa's number.
In 2008, MSU handed Iowa a 16-13 loss in Spartan Stadium.
In 2003, Iowa went out to East Lansing and the 9th ranked Hawkeyes were upset 20-10.
In 2001, Iowa lost to MSU in Spartan Stadium 28-31.
I won’t count 1999, but the Hawkeyes lost that year (They lost to everyone but NIU that year)
The infamous breaks in the Big Ten schedule? 1997-1998, 2005-2006, and MSU somehow got back to back home games against Iowa in 2008-2009. Maybe it would have been better to have to 09 game in Kinnick after all…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
To be fair
it’s been forever since MSU beat Iowa in Kinnick
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Yes.
Homefield advantage always helps in the Big Ten, unless you’re Rich Rodriguez facing Ohio State, Michigan State, Purdue, or Penn State…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
ZING
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Or Illinois, which he hasn't beat either home or away.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
RRod vs Zook
The who wants to get fired first bowl.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Or...
…if you’re Kirk Ferentz, facing Northwestern….
(3 straight….)
beating th NU drum over here
i like it.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Let him have fun.
NU’s basketball team took a huge hit when Kevin Coble left…
http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2010/7/29/1594817/cobles-departure-a-bummer-for-big
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh no!!!
Now Northwestern might not make the NCAA tournament!!! So it’ll be like every other year since the tournament was created.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
OUCH!
Well, it’s not like Iowa’s bball team is much BETTER…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not claiming it is
At least, not currently. But it has been to the NCAA tourney before.*
*Note, if and when jNWU actually makes the tournament, we can probably expect their fans to start referencing that year as “the season where we became a real team” and all history prior to that point will be flushed down a black hole.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
luckily for us, that seems to be even further away now.
Somewhere, Michale Wilbon is crying.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Somewhere, Justin Shurna is weeping...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
JOHN Shurna...
What a typo. What an error. What foolery…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
justin john jim
whatever
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Before last year’s game, neither Iowa nor MSU had won at the other’s stadium since Iowa beat MSU in East Lansing in 1995.
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I chose not to count '99.
Because Iowa held the unique distinction of being the worst team in the Big Ten AND the Big Twelve North that year. Ouch.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 29, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
We were worse
in 2000. In 1999, we only lost to 1/3 of the Big 12 North. In 2000, we lost to 1/2 of it.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 29, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
MSU wins three of those
@ Michigan
Illinois
@ Northwestern
I do think they’ll probably lose to UW and Iowa
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What is the source of the Nebraska-Iowa beef?
I am unaware.
corn conflict
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 29, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean
its not like theyre fighting over past national championship snubs or anything like some schools.
Iowa and Nebraska have played each other, what, thirty or more times?
It’s a natural rivalry, and there is some bad blood between the two schools, especially on the Iowa side.
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by ReadingRambler on Jul 30, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
In the past, Nebraska fans have talked crap non stop.
They believe they invented football.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jul 30, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
And comparing Nebraska's accomplishments to Iowas, it's pretty darned justified.
Iowa is Nebraska’s little brother on the western half of Iowa, and it burns, oh, it burns them so. Iowa fans living in Omaha (where about 1/3 of all Nebraskans live) behave like they’re 5’3", 120 pounds, know karate, and have been drinking whiskey for 4 hours. We do our best to smile tolerantly when they gas on about that one magical Rose Bowl season they had in the mid-80’s.
by Albino Tornado on Jul 30, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Repeat after me: 1994 is payback for 1982.
And I’ve never heard a Big Ten fan explain why Penn State deserved to share the title in 1994, but Nebraska didn’t deserve to in 1997.
by Albino Tornado on Jul 30, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, here's a shot at an explanation
Bear in mind, I’m neither a Penn State fan nor a Michigan fan, so I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but here goes, anyway.
In 1994, Penn State had held the #1 rank for several weeks, until they played a typically lousy Indiana team. Penn State, unsurprisingly, built a big lead by early in the second half, and the Nittany Lions eased off the gas. Indiana scored a couple of touchdowns in garbage time, and when all was said and done, Penn State had a 1-possession victory (IIRC, Indiana’s last TD came on a hail mary on the game’s final play, so Penn State was never in the slightest danger of losing that game). However, a lot of poll voters apparently only looked at the final score, asked “why did Penn State struggle so much with Indiana?”, and the Lions got bumped down to #2 and could never catch Nebraska.
In 1997, Nebraska found itself in a real fight with Missouri, a game that they probably should have lost, even if you discount the whole kicked-ball thing. I never got that worked up about the call itself—it was the pre-replay era, a lot was going on in a small space, and spotting that would’ve been really difficult for the refs. But there’s a sense that even disregarding that play, Nebraska squeaked out a win in a game where they’d probably been outplayed. The other beef is the manner in which Nebraska jumped Michigan. Michigan was ranked #1 prior to the bowls, Osborne announced his impending retirement, and then the coaches elevated Nebraska over Michigan in the post-bowl poll. Now it could’ve been that they did this because Nebraska’s bowl performance was better than Michigan’s, but there was also the sense that this was the coaches’ way of sending out Osborne as a winner—more of a career achievement award than an actual title.
No doubt Nebraska fans will vigorously disagree with this, but from the perspective of Big Ten teams, this is why the events of those two years have some peoples’ noses out of joint.
by Findlay Buckeye on Aug 3, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, the daddy cow comes up to the mommy cow...
… and after that, it’s NSFW.
by Albino Tornado on Jul 30, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
# 10: Michigan will not go 8-4
As I posted in your bowl preview Rich Rod has gone 1-8 in road games so I don’t know how a team with a new kicker/punter and no Graham/Warren on defense is going to go better than 2-3 on the road vs. ND, IND, PSU, PUR, OSU. You said the offense will be able to carry the team but I don’t see that happening in the 8pm white-out @ PSU or the November clash @ Purdue.
At home I’ll give you Bowling Green, UMASS, and Illinois but then you run into 3 top 25 teams in Wisconsin, Iowa, Uconn and a rivalry game against an improved MSU.
I could see six wins with @ND, @ IND, BG, UMASS, MSU and maybe a UCONN upset but there are too many unknowns to say Michigan will do much better than 6-6.
by RickTheBloggerMartel on Jul 30, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
MSU is a wildly predictable team...
There’s almost always some sort of collapse that they MUST suffer, usually after the exhausting, debilitating, 3OT game vs. Michigan…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 30, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
UMass, the only stone cold lock of the bunch.
Only because I didn’t know they played football until recently
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 30, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you hear John Calipari got UMass in a whole bunch of trouble with Marcus Camby?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 30, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, and not surprising.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 30, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
And despite UMass's history, Michigan will STILL go winless in BuckeyeSki's Dynasty mode.
My kingdom for a spellchecker...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 1, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
A run of the mill Lloyd Carr team would go at least 10-2 with this schedule.
Lloyd wouldn’t lose to Penn State or Michigan State because they’re Penn State and Michigan State (not that he never did, but over his career he dominated both). Lloyd wouldn’t lose to Wisconsin or Iowa in the Big House; he dominated them both in Michigan Stadium. Ho-hum easy wins would come against BGSU, UConn, UMass, Illinois, Indiana, and Purdue.
Lloyd lost to some athletically inferior Notre Dame teams and all but once to Ohio State, so I’ll leave ND as a maybe and OSU as a loss.
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
Carr did just fine against Ohio State before Tressel showed up.
Carr was 5-1 vs. OSU during the John Cooper era. But he was 1-6 against Jim Tressel.
Tressel’s arrival at OSU really dropped an anvil on the teeter-totter, as far as the rivalry goes.























