Closing Arguments - Minnesota
I. Case History/Opening Argument
A. Case History
Time for the annual optimism to set in. Time for the "I really like this team" chest puffing to begin. Time for some tremendous Tim Brewster hyperbole to make its way into some outstanding articles about Gopher Nation's football team.
But Timmy seems to have toned things down a bit this year. There seems to be a little less talk coming from the Gibson-Nagurski Football Complex this year, and perhaps a bit more of the Gophers just going about their business. I'm not here to tell you that Tim Brewster is being quiet... that is by no means the case. And I'll be honest with you, I like Tim Brewster's confidence, because as Gopher fans we're not used to hearing our head coach say that the goal of this program is Rose Bowls.
More Closing Arguments:
B. Opening Statement
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and was later thawed by some of your "scientists." Your world frightens and confu... oops, my bad.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, I rise in defense of my client, the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers. I would ask you, humbly, to ignore the predictions of 1 or 2 win seasons and last place Big Ten finishes that you have undoubtedly heard in your daily reading. I would ask that you jump back from your assumptions and conclusions.
You have without question heard the cries of "9 starters lost on defense," "Adam Weber is a hack," and "Tim Brewster couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag."
I would instead submit that you clear your mind of those backward facing thoughts. The past is not our destination. For in the words of George W. Bush: "I think we can all agree, the past is over."
While the plaintiff tells you that my client has lost 9 starters on defense, I would remind you that of the 13 games that the Gophers played in 2009, 10 returning players saw action in 11 games or more.
While the plaintiff tells you that Adam Weber is a hack, I would remind you that he holds, or will by the end of the 2010 season hold, every major passing record in Gopher football history, and is entering his 4th season as the starting quarterback of this team. I would also counter by reminding you that Jedd Fisch is gone.
II. Factual Summation, or Discovery, as the Barristers Might Say
A. Off Tackle Empire Says
Here's some of what we've written about the Gophers in the off-season:
- Could Adam Weber be poised for a comeback?
- "The Bank" - TCF Bank Stadium
- Evaluating the mechanics of Adam Weber
- An Iowa fan spews venom
- Minnesota Spring Field Guide
- The Gophers are inconsistent
B. Spoon says "You have no fear of the underdog..."
Because all blogs are required to compare athletic teams to some random entertainment icon, we're equating Big Ten teams to "famous" artists.
To paraphrase some lyrics...
You got no time for the messenger
Got no regard for the thing that you don't understand...
You don't talk to the water boy
And there's so much you could learn but you don't want to know...
The thing that I tell you now
It may not go over well
And it may not be photo-op
In the way that I spell it out
But you won't hear from the messenger
Don't wanna know about something you don't understand
You got no fear of the underdog
That's why you will not survive
III. Emotional Plea
This should be my section. This should be the place where I try to get you to feel my pain, my agony over being a fan of this football program for as long as I can remember. This should be what I'm best at.
But Tim Brewster has rubbed enough people the wrong way, both inside of and outside of Gopher Nation. An emotional plea isn't going to persuade anyone, outside of Gopher fans, when it comes to the Gophers.
What I can tell you, however, is that those of us that are fans of the Gophers think that the national pundits are selling this team short. We know that things don't look good, but we also feel strongly that this incarnation of the Gophers has more raw talent than we've seen around here in a long time. The defense was the closest thing to a strength that we had last year, but we lost 9 starters from that team, and when opening day rolls around (because of injury to Royston and legal troubles with Theret) it's not unlikely that this team will be showing 11 new starters on the defensive side of the ball. And the offense, well that's where we've got the starters coming back.. 9 of them. But that squad was nothing short of horrible in 2009, so what is there to be excited about.
So this is as close to an emotional ploy as I will get... watch 'em. Watch the Gophers. Watch how they play, how they swarm to the ball, how they do things the right way, how they play like a team.
This could very well be a 6-6 football team... but that 6-6 will be much better than the 6-6 we saw last year.
V. Verdict
A. The Staff calls the games
Jonathan Franz:
3-9 (1-7)
Graham Filler:
4-8 (2-6)
Bama Hawkeye:
3-9 (1-7)
Paterno Ave:
3-9 (0-8)
JDMill:
6-6 (3-3)
GregGoBlue:
4-8 (1-7)
Hilary Lee:
4-8 (1-7)
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I have to agree with the 4-8 predictions
That schedule is brutal and it will be tough to pull out some wins with a new defense.
Maybe if they do go “3-3” in conference and schedule 2 more gimmies they could get to 6-6.
Hopefully the Gophers can pull out some TCF magic against USC.
by RickTheBloggerMartel on Aug 23, 2010 6:46 AM CDT reply actions
Shameless isn't it?
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When I saw the picture for this story....
….I assumed the “Closing Argument” would be — "Well, at least we have a new stadium! Seriously, look at the stadium, not the team inside it!
3-9 is about as optimistic as I can get…..I wouldn’t put 2-10 (with an 0-8 conference mark) out of the realm of possibility, either….
0-8
they do play Illinois, late in the season. A good offense and semi-decent D ought to be enough to whip the fighting zookers. On the other hand, by that point in the season they could be facing fired Ron Zook, in which case all bets are off.
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Zooker will be to busy water skiing to want to win that game.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
This has nothing to do with Minnestoa
Am I the only one that thinks it’s ironic that the series of “Closing Argument” posts began almost immediately after changing the name of the blog (and dropping the “Esq.”)?
by cbrett42 on Aug 23, 2010 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
clever
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The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Graham Filler on Aug 23, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
National media outlets don't spend any time covering
teams that aren’t expected to be ranked or close to it. They look at the Gophers and see 9 starters gone from a decent Defense, and as many starters back for a poor Offense.
They don’t know that 9 or 10 of Minnesota’s opening day starters this year are guys who got significant time last year as RS frosh or sophomores.
They don’t know that this is, by far the biggest, fastest, most aggressive collection of Defensive players that have donned the maroon and gold in my lifetime.
They don’t know that Adam Weber has had an incredible off season and that the experts were raving about his performance at the Peyton Manning Camp.
As JDMill pointed out—they don’t know that Jed Fisch was the not only inept, but painfully so, and that new O-coordinator Jeff Horton has been smart enough to keep the same scheme, calls, etc., for continuity, albeit in a drastically simplified form.
They don’t know that the O-line is finally healthy, and much better. They don’t know that frosh bowling ball RB Donnell Kirkwood has been looking like Gary Russell this fall and should be an effective back for the Gophs.
True Gopher fans know what we have here, and they are excited. Because this team will make mistakes based on its age, but it will also make a lot of big plays this year.
Mark it down folks, The Gophers win 7 or 8 games this year, including a 4 or 5 win Big Ten campaign.
not to be a dick, but this isn't sayng a whole lot......
They don’t know that this is, by far the biggest, fastest, most aggressive collection of Defensive players that have donned the maroon and gold in my lifetime.
The Gopher’s defense has never been dominant. At least not in my lifetime.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Even in their last win over Wisconsin, they gave up 34 points to the worst Wisconsin offense in years.
Just pathetic.
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 23, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
They don’t know that Adam Weber has had an incredible off season and that the experts were raving about his performance at the Peyton Manning Camp.
This is funny.
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by PurdueMatt on Aug 23, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
He can have an incredible off season...
but who is he going to throw to when actual play starts?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Eric Decker was the only offensive weapon that gave me heart attacks.
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by John Veldhuis on Aug 23, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
a lot of people, myself included, feel the same way
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Fortunately for Iowa, Eric Decker was almost always injured before the Battle for Floyd...
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 23, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right, the truth is funny
‘Weber made a positive impression, and ESPN’s NFL correspondent Chris Mortensen even mentioned the Gophers quarterback as one of the camp’s “few surprise good throwers” in a Twitter message.’
‘Yesterday afternoon of ESPN’s College Gameday Live, (airquotes) "analyst" Jesse Palmer and his shocking inability to tie a tie properly went through some of the quarterbacks at the recent Manning Bros Passing Skills Academy and listed Gopher QB Adam Weber as a signal caller that he really liked.’
http://fringebowlteamblog.com/?p=1349
the questions remains...
who is he going to throw too?
being a “good thrower” doesn’t amount to much if the line is unproven and there’s no one to throw to. Just watch Sam Bradford in St Louis this year to see what I’m talking about.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
MarQuies Gray?
Give up on him as QB this year and move him out wide.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 23, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
one person says “surprise good thrower” = “the experts were raving about his performance”
???
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He went to the Derek Zoolander center for kids that can't throw good.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
bahahaha
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Aug 23, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Although....
…..he might be half anaylst, half therapist….you know, an analrapist…..
I mean Palmer did go to Florida…..so he’d be comfortable wearing jorts as a never-nude…
by Chadnudj on Aug 23, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1000 for the Funke ref
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously.....
…..what QB DOESN’T look good at these skills camps? Throwing balls through tires with no pads on and no defense should be frickin’ easy for ANY D1 quarterback.
Athony Morelli
I’ll take mediocre to bad QB’s for $1000 please
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Point taken.....
….but really, have you ever heard a media report say “Player X really looked like shit at the JaMarcus Memorial QB Skills Camp this week. He just couldn’t seem to throw a spiral, and dented several cars in the parking lot with errant passes. Also, he fumbled a lot of shotgun snaps, tripped over his shoelaces, and broke his thumb when the coach kicked him in the ass.”
by Spartan D on Aug 23, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree. Skills competitions are essentially 0 pressure
and nothing like a game situation. Throwing through a tire, or at a target without your pocket collapsing around you does not equal success.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Just curious
Which Big Ten games will the Gophers win in your opinion?
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by John Veldhuis on Aug 23, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
outlandish "prediction" in 3.....2....1....
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
My opinion...
My actual prediction was that they’d beat Purdue, Michigan State and Illinois. I would also throw NWestern in the mix as a team the could beat in conference. I honestly believe the Gophs can win 3 of those 4 games.
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That's a great question. In my opinion the Gophers will
get a Win over Northwestern (who is always easier to play early in the year before Pat Fitzgerald has figured out how best to hide his glaring athleticism gap). Remember how the Gophers ran the ball on the ‘Cats and moved it at will in the second half? Minnesota will again be the first truly big/athletic opponent Northwestern faces. Fitzgerald is incredible, and as the year goes on he finds ways to compensate for what his team lacks. Northwestern has consistently been easier to play early in the year. Also, they lose 3 all Big-Ten players in the secondary (S Phillips, Smith, CB-McManis). Northwestern isn’t the kind of school that just reloads in the back 4. The secondary will struggle (particularly early).
Purdue—Win, Robert Marve is probably a very nice player, but the Boilers had 20 starters miss all/most of spring ball including 10 starters. Star RB Ralph Bolden is likely gone for 2010 (and even if back, probably won’t yet be the same post ACL). They also are competing with Indiana, (and possibly Northwestern and Michigan State) for the Big Ten’s worst secondary award. Minnesota beat Purdue convincingly last year. I think the Gophers beat the Boilers again.
W—Illinois—Adam Weber had the worst game of his career in this one last year and the Gophers still had to work to give this game to the Illini. Minnesota beats Illinois this year
That’s 3. For the 4th win I expect the Gophers to beat either Michigan State, Penn State, or Wisconsin (and before someone gets snarky, I don’t expect the Gophers to win all 3 of those games. I expect them to win at least 1 of them).
Penn State has serious QB issues. Minnesota beat Michigan State last year and has owned Sparty in the last decade. Wisconsin is really good, but that game is always close and there are a few reasons I think the Gophers have a decent chance at Bucky this year. If you want my further analysis go here—http://boards.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?p=222896#post222896
here comes the wrath of BSD...
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah...Evan Royster is good/average against teams with no defense
More frequently than an alcoholic diabetic, Ohio State pisses excellence, week in and week out
NO WAY HES BETTER THAN ANYONE TO EVEVER TOUCH A FOOBALL
(insert 1994 game score) derpp derpp derpp
WE DIDNT WANT PRYOR NEWAYZZZ
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Morelli for Heisman
..and so forth
More frequently than an alcoholic diabetic, Ohio State pisses excellence, week in and week out
by BuckeyeSki on Aug 23, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Justin Zwackiness
and the utter craziness better called 2004…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 23, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
In that Purdue game last year....
Total yards
Purdue 402
Minny 281
Your beloved Weber went 5-9 for 74 yards, 0 TD’s with 2 picks.
If Purdue takes care of the ball this time, they win comfortably.
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Minnesota didn't have to throw the ball
as the game was out of reach fairly early. Minnesota absolutely beats Purdue this year. Mark it down.
the football shaped locker room factor?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
It was 14-13 at half
And Purdue was up 10-0 after the 1st.
How does that constitute “out of reach fairly early?”
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It doesn't.
But there was a 10 point swing from a blocked field goal that REALLY hurt the Boilermakers…
At least you’d go on to beat Ohio State. No other Big Ten team did that last season…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 23, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally
I think you’ll eat your words, but you know, it’s not like most of the staff agrees with me or anything. Minnesota will beat three of their first four (the loss is obvious), and then Illinois. Purdue, Michigan State, and Northwestern should be on the lookout, though.
You see what I did there? Yeeeaaaaaahhhh.
i think MTSU beats Minnesota. I'm not the only one either...
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Different Minnesota, Better Pat Fitzgerald
First off, while I appreciate the “Pat Fitzgerald’s teams improve as the year goes on” meme growing in respect, this is not 2009 anymore. Fitz and the Wildcats last year were dealing with a lot of injuries (I’m pretty sure we were McManis-less last year against Minny, and Wootton was a shadow of himself), and were playing a lot of young untested guys. Expect the Cats to be a tougher team earlier in the season (getting young guys experience is part of the reason the Cats redshirt almost every freshman, and why this year’s scrimmage in Kenosha involved almost no starters — 19 starters were held out, in order to get younger guys game-speed experience).
Also, the 2010 Gophers are not the 2009 Gophers that beat Northwestern….simply because Eric Decker is not on the field. The Gophers were able to run so successfully because NU had NO ONE that could cover Decker (thanks to injuries in the secondary, although Decker was so good, McManis probably couldn’t stop him), and had to respect him, and thus left running lanes open.
In other words — Fitz and the Cats will be treating TCF Bank Stadium like the wanna-be-Kinnick it is…..just another place for the Cats to win games.
I'll give you the Illinois game, even though it's on the road.
But in your extra analysis you’ve given Minnesota 3 Big Ten road wins, which would match Brewster’s total number of conference road wins in his coaching career! (Not to mention that the last time Minnesota beat Wisconsin in Madison was 1994). I’m more prone to giving Northwestern and Purdue credit for the strides they took last year, but that’s just me.
Obviously the larger issue I have is with your prediction of a win over Wisconsin. Your point about the Badger cornerbacks would have more validity if Eric Decker was still with the Gophers, but since he’s moved on to the NFL Weber doesn’t have a prime passing option. You also conveniently forgot to mention the Badger linebackers as part of their defense. Borland and Taylor will more than make up for potential shortcomings on the D-line, and will help stop that vaunted Gopher running game.
I’d also point out that Wisconsin has the best O-line in the conference, if not the nation. It would surprise me if a raw Gopher d-line can do enough to stop John Clay from putting up 150+ yards. And don’t forget that, God forbid, if something does happen to Tolzien- Phillips is scheduled to be game ready by the time the Big Ten starts conference play. Not to say that Phillips is an improvement over Tolzien, but he’s definitely a step up over Budmyer.
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by John Veldhuis on Aug 23, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You misread what I wrote. Nowhere did I predict a W over Wisconsin
earlier quote from this thread
‘For the 4th win I expect the Gophers to beat either Michigan State, Penn State, or Wisconsin (and before someone gets snarky, I don’t expect the Gophers to win all 3 of those games. I expect them to win at least 1 of them).’
The truth is that I think Wisconsin will be the toughest of those games to win, as the Penn State game is at home, and Minnesota has beaten Michigan State consistently in the last decade. However, the battle for the Axe is usually a very close game, and I expect a similarly close game this year.
Can't have it both ways. You predicted a win in the 'further analysis' part.
—W over Wisconsin. Wisconsin will be a power running play action pass machine again this year. But, the Badgers no longer have underrated S Chris Maragos and all-world DE O’Brien S. This means the Badgers awful CBs will be exposed a lot more this year than they were last year. It also means the Badgers will have serious issues getting to the QB and increased difficulty stopping the run. JJ Watt is solid but he can’t do it alone. The Gopher D line will prove their worth in this game by doing enough to allow the Gophers to limit the inevitable damage of the formidable Badger running game.
—Two bonus points that forecast a Gopher victory against Bucky in the fall. First, Horton knows the Badgers inside and out and is a QB guru. He will give our QBs an increased advantage against the Badger D.
—Second, after the fall of Curt Phillips the Badgers have no depth at QB. Bucky’s new backup looked terrible all spring, confused, mistake prone, unathletic, and totally unable to execute. If starter Scott Tolzien goes down the Badgers are in much worse shape than most other Big Ten teams (including the Gophers)
Unless there is a different ‘Ahlibobwa’ roaming around at the link you provided, it sure seems like you predicted a win.
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by John Veldhuis on Aug 23, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say the backup QBs looked terrible
If anything, it was Minnesota’s backup QBs that looked terrible. I shudder to think of what will happen after Weber graduates.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 24, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
To put things in perspective:
Minnesota has beaten MSU pretty consistently from 1998 thru 2009, winning 6 of the 8 match-ups contested.
Here are some caveats:
The final records of those 6 MSU teams that lost: 6-6(1998),7-5(2001),4-8(2002),5-6(2005),4-8(2006),6-7(2009).
The last time Minnesota beat an MSU team in E. Lansing that finished with a winning record was 2001. Before that was 1962 (5-4). I would say that if the Spartans have only 2 or 3 losses on November 5 then you can probably scratch that one off your win list.
Additionally, I think people (and in this instance gopher fans, specifically) fail to understand how much damage that last second loss to Iowa had to the MSU team. Maybe it’s a poor excuse, but the team that showed up in Minnesota was shell shocked. That’s a product of the players reaction and coaching, but I don’t think it happens again this year.
by MSULaxer27 on Aug 23, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
If we're using the "shell shocked" standard...
…I can explain away the other 2 losses to MSU and we’re 8 of 8 against MSU in recent years (since both of the losses to MSU followed heart breaking defeats to Michigan). You point about beating MSU teams with winning records in East Lansing is stronger. Should have stopped with that one. =)
I know little of the Gophers
But naming your football complex after Bronko Nagurski is cool. Sounds like the team could have used the Eric Stratton defense even more than the Hoosiers, though. Also can’t help when one of the non-returners for your offense is Decker.
by hoosierdaddynow on Aug 23, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions
He'd promptly chew out the team for using profanity after they let Terrelle Pryor defeat them all by himself...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 23, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Hehe
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Everyone does it
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Aug 23, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Pryor doesnt even need an offensive line
when he plays the Minnesota Golden Goofers Gophers.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 23, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
have you already forgotten about the football shaped lcoker room?!?!
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
and the loCKer room too...
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 23, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Does the University of Washington have a Jake Locker Room?
by Findlay Buckeye on Aug 24, 2010 6:45 AM CDT reply actions
they should
I know Mel Kiper does. He thinks Locker is dreamy.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Tim Tebow
was ESPN’s opiates. A miscrosecond of TT footage was all that was needed before they’d start fauning over him.
Tyler Hansborough had the same effect, only he needed at least a second before it kicked in…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 24, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
i remember, that's my anaology, hahahaa
just remember “texas style” ping pong. FMMFL
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Not big on Minny this year … have them at 2-10 (0-8) [probably going to be wrong on that, but I had to pick somebody in last place didn’t I?], beating South Dakota St and Northern Illinois (although I have them winning their MAC division).
Middle Tenn St could be very difficult to beat, but the QB might be in trouble, so Minny might catch a break there.
AhliBobwa disapproves...
but as for me, I’m with ya.
When asked why he went for 5, Tate responded "..because I couldn't go for 6...".
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/
by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Most Minny fans are going to disagree, and thats fine with me. I hope they shock USC. But I think this conference is as strong as it has been in a long time. Doesn’t bode well for Minny with their schedule this season.
i think we've heard enough of this "hope" word
would i laugh my ass off if they beat USC, yes. yes i would
do i think it will happen? 99 times in 100, no way.
When asked why he went for 5, Tate responded "..because I couldn't go for 6...".
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/
by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 26, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
as a minny fan
I don’t disagree. Best…absolute BEST case scenario is 6-6. We are talking catching all the breaks on the way to a championship breaks. I think 2 wins is the basement. With 4 being most likely. As long as Weber isn’t slinging INTs like they are going out of style they should be in a couple of games to pull a few out.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 26, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
scratch that 4 bit.
s/b 3-4 most likely. 3 being slightly more likely than 4.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 26, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
but, have you read the post about MTSU's QB and his pocker/gambling/theft issues?
When asked why he went for 5, Tate responded "..because I couldn't go for 6...".
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/
by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
hence my
but the QB might be in troublestatement.
If the QB is out, then I think Minny can improve to 3-9, but I suspect that Northern Illinois could swap in as a loss too. SO I’ll stick with 2-10 and hope they make it to 3-9.
yeah saw that after the facts, WOOPS
the extent of the pile of S that guy has put himself in… WOW
When asked why he went for 5, Tate responded "..because I couldn't go for 6...".
http://www.insidetheshoe.com/
by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 26, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions

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