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Big Red in the B1G Week 8: We Won and Stuff… Oh, and Rex Burkhead is the Best RB in the B1G

Ohio State was two weeks ago, but this picture makes me happy still.

Look, I cannot come up with an angle for the Minnesota game. You’ve seen the animated GIFs, you probably watched some of it, and most likely you predicted a score in the ballpark of what happened. As B1G fans, what can you take away from this game? Well, little to nothing. Minnesota is its own worst enemy, Nebraska can run the ball, Martinez still looks shaky throwing the ball, there are stupid NCAA fumbling/passing rules, and Jerry Kill cannot catch a break. So yeah, pretty much Nebraska and Minnesota 2011, right?

Anyhow, since my piece about Ohio State never made it to the interweb (me and my internet provider were not getting along well with SBNation), I want to talk about something that deserves some debate. I usually do not like to talk about midseason awards, unless it’s Denard’s September Heisman, but after reading several publications’ view of who is the RB of the year to this point in the B1G, I started wondering why Burkhead isn’t getting more press. I know Nebraska hasn’t knocked the socks off of anyone yet, but I think he deserves a look as the best B1G RB because he’s been doing everything and has looked good doing it. So I’m going to take a stab at it. If my team is picking a RB this year from the crop of backs in the B1G, I’m choosing Rex Burkhead.   

Star-divide

When making assertions such as, "X is the best Y," it’s probably good to back things up with more than, "I like the way he wears a bracelet to remind himself that there are people who have to fight more difficult circumstances than playing NCAA football, getting free school, and eating a ridiculously wonderful set of meals from t he training table." Not that there is anything wrong with that, but character is only a part of this equation, and probably a very small one at that. After all, it’s not like we care about that character stuff once Saturday comes around, now do we

Anyhow, let’s assume that the three best backs in the B1G right now are Montee Ball, Rex Burkhead, and Marcus Coker. I am open to getting blasted in the comments as to why someone is left out (most likely Penn State fans complaining about the overall yards leader, Redd… he doesn’t get invited because he has an extra game and only 6 TDs, so deal with it). When breaking down statistical categories, I chose overall yards, YPC, and TDs. I like that we can then analyze your overall production, how effective you really are with your opportunities, and what you’ve gotten out of the deal. Here’s how these guys break down:

 

Total Yards

YPC

TD

Ball

768

6.1

17

Burkhead

752

5.8

10

Coker

717

4.8

8

 

Right off the bat, Ball takes an early lead in all three statistical categories. I can understand why every article I read named him the best RB of the bunch. He has produced more, on slightly fewer carries, and gets to paydirt regularly. Yeah, the guy is been in Beast-mode it seems. Granted, UNLV and Oregon State (not to mention Nebraska) have not provided the sternest tests to date, but SoS is difficult to measure in a quick turnaround, so we’re going with what we got. Still, what do these numbers really say? In watching Wisconsin this year, Ball has gotten a lot of TDs because that offense is a finely tuned machine. While I do believe he is the cog that makes that thing work, would you give more credit to a strong QB and line or to him on his own? I guess a better question would be if you switched Ball with someone like Burkhead, would there be similar results? I believe so. As for Coker? He's a great back, but I think he is a lot farther behind Burkhead and Ball than these numbers even suggest. He has over 20 more rushes than both Burkhead and Ball and has produced fewer yards and TDs. I will give him credit for his receiving yards, but even with that, he's still not been quite as good as everyone hoped he would be this year. I think he'll have a more productive second half as defenses gear up to stop the pass, but for now he's third on the list. It is worth noting that Redd has less YPC than Coker as well.

 

Getting back to Rex, there are things that I think make him such a great back that you wouldn't see on the surface of the stats above. Let's start at the YPC level per quarter. As the announcers feverishly pointed out on Saturday (in between being bored out of their minds), Burkhead averages a full yard more in the 4th quarter per carry than he does in the third:

YPC/Q

Q1

Q2

Q3

Q4

Ball

5.0

5.8

7.3

7.8

Burkhead

7.5

2.8

5.7

6.8

Coker

4.5

5.6

4.2

4.7

Of course, it seems as if Ball is even more of a monster as the game progresses as he is averaging progressively more yards per carry AND he is getting two or more yards in the fourth. Coker gets better in the fourth, but not by much. Well, again, this doesn't tell the whole story. One of the most difficult things to figure out through statistics is context. Ball has had very few carries in the fourth. Comparing everyone's carries per quarter (obviously blowouts for Ball have helped) looks like this:

Carries/Q

Q1

Q2

Q3

Q4

Ball

49

24

40

12

Burkhead

30

30

33

37

Coker

48

41

30

26

This may seem like no big deal, but think about that. Burkhead increases his average YPC from Q2-Q4 even as his carries increase. Ball has higher YPC in the 4th, but the stats size makes it skewed. With only 12 carries in the fourth quarter this year, his average gets to be high with one long run -- a 21 yard gash at that. He is still a great back, but I like that Rex has had his most carries in the fourth quarter. Again, Coker seems to start huge, but go down in production overall as the game progresses. What does it all mean? It’s hard to say. All I know is that Burkhead has to shoulder much of Nebraska’s offense and either close out games (Washington) or bring Nebraska back (Ohio State). The coaches want the ball in his hand and he seems to respond to that.

 

Add to all this Burkhead’s all-everything attitude. So far he has lined up as RB, FB, WR, QB, KR and PR. I understand some of that is gimmicky, but it points out his versatility. If the writers and coaches were to release their All-B1G team right now, he’s not the #1 back, it’s Ball, and I can’t necessarily knock anyone for that, but I think it’s a little shortsighted to think it’s a landslide victory. Burkhead is a throwback to the "do what it takes" roles of the old days, and I think he’s really been the Husker's shining light so far as we’ve entered B1G play. He has extremely good vision, and he has stepped up as a leader on a team that has struggled to find an offensive identity. He’s the cog in a potent rushing offense that will determine whether or not the Huskers make it to Indy.

 

Bottom line, the B1G has some excellent backs including both Coker and Ball, and I would be extremely hard-pressed to say that Burkhead is the best of the bunch, but if I was putting together a team, I would have to choose Rex. He has played with intensity all season despite having very little experienced depth behind him, he is a great character guy and well-spoken, and he has an entire rap song written about him. With that said, let the, "WHAT! HOW CAN YOU SAY _______ ISN’T THE BEST RB IN THE B1G!!! OMG!!!!!!"

 

 

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First of all

thanks for writing a new article. I think the entire OTE fanbase has been foaming at the mouth for new content.

Second, it’s hard to say “X is better than Y” based solely on their own stats. There is one important factor that needs to be taken into the equation, and that is the O-line strength. Ball is a heck of a RB, but he has the biggest B1G line in front of him. Burkhead is also good, but the O-line isn’t as strong (imo). Would he be better if he ran behind Wisconsin’s O-line? Probably.

I’m actually more impressed by RBs who are close in comparison (but not the best), but have an inexperienced or weak O-line in front of them. Those are the guys who take what they get, and make it more than it should be.

by SpartyFever on Oct 26, 2011 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

That is kind of my thought

See, the numbers aren’t all that far off minus TDs, which I will concede to Ball… Dang he is a beast this year in that department. Anyhow, I think Burkhead is a workhorse RB who doesn’t have negative plays and has a crazy amount of strength and determination. Is he as flashy as Ball? Not even a little bit, but he does his job and does it well. With a stronger line, I think he has close to if not just as good of a statline as anyone in the country. I mean, I openly admit I’m biased… it’s my team and I have watched them play for forever, but he is a fun back to watch. You feel safe with the ball in his hands.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

With a stronger line, I think he has close to if not just as good of a statline as anyone in the country.

I think Rex actually benefits from a suspect line since he lacks blazing speed, but is positively brilliant in traffic.

Don’t get me wrong: his leadership, reliability, and running style are perfect for this team right now, but were there always gaping holes to run through, you’d see him getting chased down where one of the freshman speedsters may have taken it to the house.

Same screen name since AOL- 'cause like many Nebraska fans, I'm stuck in the '90s.

by crowe1856 on Oct 26, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

OTE needs more posts

Things are a little slow on this site as of late.

I’d be happy to contribute. I have a degree in economics. May I contribute a weekly “Fun with numbers” post? I have a pretty detailed analysis of B1G recruiting and on field success versus SEC recruiting and on field success. Spoiler: The B1G overachieves and the SEC underachieves.

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Oct 26, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

And Georgia GROSSLY underachieves.

And Iowa grossly overachieves.

And surprisingly, Illinois is right where Illinois should be.

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Oct 26, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

When you look at the numbers, it is pretty amazing.

With the recruiting classes the SEC brings in, they should NEVER lose a bowl game to a B1G team.

Especially 2008 when Iowa beat South Carolina. Iowa had essentially an unranked recruiting class and South Carolina had averaged a Top 15 over the previous four seasons.

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Oct 26, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure writing a post about Clemson

(aside from this year) Would be a riot. What a waste of talent.

by mikjones24 on Oct 26, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's one way to look at it.

Another way is that coaches always fall in love with measureables, and underwear. (The Combine: we measure you, and we look at you in your underwear.) It’s easier to win if you have the most raw talent, but it doesn’t guarantee success. As the funnel to the NFL narrows, this becomes plain, and the guys who get there wind up having measurables, skill, intangibles and tape. Two of those four do not get measured very well by Rivals. (It’s hard to rate skill in high school because the best athletes so completely overwhelm their contemporaries.) It seems to me that the whole high school star-rating system is grossly overweighted. Alabama doesn’t win now because of raw talent, they win because Saban is coaching the raw talent.

Football is still a team game played with skill. Skills have to be taught, learned, accepted. So you can get at least half-way home by playing the game the right way and working hard. This is why I think Kill is going to do okay.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uh-huh.

No. Just no.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 26, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ummm

that’s not Duane Bennett

Mikael Granlund: The Great Hope

by NorthernStar on Oct 26, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awww, it's cute.

it’s like talking to a four year old about Santa Claus.

That chick was, like, the Pele of anal.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Oct 26, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya know, until next week when he is resuspended

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 27, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let me guess, although these are shots in the dark against long odds.

Your favorite color is red, your favorite comedian is Johnny Carson, your favorite hills are Sand, and the best restaurants in America are in the Old Market.

Like I said, just shots in the dark, totally random.

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by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Wow, Bellanca posts a snarky comment. Surprise!

First things first, I don’t have nearly as much state love as I do team love, so your assumptions are wrong. I generally dislike things west of Omaha, believe that comparing Nebraska to Iowa is dumb unless we’re talking Council Bluffs (at which point Nebraska greatly wins the better state argument), have actually been out of the state borders and realize food is more than steak, and think that Iowans who believe they are far more cultured should probably start by getting Des Moines to not suck, but that’s not what we’re discussing, is it?

Seriously, I do think Burkhead might be the best back. Look, I said that Ball has been a beast this year and deserves all the accolades he’ll surely get, but is it the line and passing game that has set him up this year? I know that his career stats say he’s productive, but overlooking everything that Burkhead does on the field, I like him as a feature back. How about this as a question, would you take Coker or Burkhead? My gut tells me you, along with most Iowa fans, would say Coker (of course, Iowans ability to self-deprecate never ceases to amaze me) because you know what he’s all about. So while this is completely self-centered as a post (which the title implied… I figured the Big Red part was a dead giveaway. I’ll be more explicit next time) yeah, I do believe Burkhead would have the same if not better stats anywhere else.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Take 'em down then

Hey, tell me who the best is, then. BTW, you sure know a lot about Nebraska! You are pulling out some Nebraska facts out of thin air today. I don’t know if I should be impressed or honored or what.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's the spirit. I happened to like Nebraska.

When I fly into Eppley, I’ve even learned to Ohm-Ha Approach instead of Om-a-ha.

No question the Joslyn (with the exception of the Kiewit Gallery) is a fine rival museum to Des Moines and the Walker.

I could do without being lectured about how super-great and fantastic a certain B+ football team is. Or how Wisconsin fans lack class because they just haven’t learned yet how to handle winning. Or the strategic genius that is Coach Vitriol.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

B+?

I think that’s a bit generous. I openly admit Nebraska is probably 3rd-ish in the division right now. MSU is tops, Michigan/Iowa/Nebraska battle it out for the next three spots. Still, taking aggression out about Nebraska misses the point that Burkhead is really having a great season. His YPC is outstanding, and it increases as his workload increases. That’s amazing. As you know, generally the more carries you have, the lower your YPC gets, but throughout the game, his doesn’t. This has impressed me.

As for everything else? Nebraska fans need to get over Wisconsin fans. I have heard nothing but good things from friends who were up there. A few incidents with drunk students yelling stuff at kids… but that happens everywhere, so I think that gets a pass for the overall aura that was Camp Randall. Um, what else do I need to address? Oh yeah, you hate Pelini. It is what it is. He’s my coach, I’ll stand by him, case closed. I wish he wouldn’t blow up as often (been better this year minus when Chase Rome hit a guy late), but I do like him.

Glad to hear you’ve been to Joslyn. I enjoy going down there. If you like more modern art, check out the Bemis or Peerless. If you’re stuck here, let me know and we can go to those greatest restaurants on earth down in the Old Market (super big secret, best restaurants are not in the Old Market…).

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peerless

Is that the name of the place? Or the type of people that go there?

/sarcasm

by SpartyFever on Oct 26, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

WE HATE IOWA!

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Oct 26, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

You guys really are lost without Brew...

…aren’t you? BHGP is totally lacking in HATE WEEK content, and the one funny that went up today ends with Brew too. It’s pretty sad actually.

by GoAUpher on Oct 26, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

We do miss Brew

Fortunately, Kill is on pace to meet his first year accolades.

by mikjones24 on Oct 26, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

As much as I despise Iowa Fans Husker haters, that was perfect.

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's getting a free pass this year on account of almost dying.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Oct 26, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea...

…he didn’t almost die. It was a seizure, not a heart attack.

If that’s the reason, well, kudos I guess? Still makes relying on Brewster sad to see (not really, I’m fine to be rid of a walking joke).

by GoAUpher on Oct 26, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not going to happen.

Coach Kill is killing it. And he doesn’t look anything like a Gopher, no sir.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

My new favorite non-MSU fan website...

[now that MGoBlog is devolving into the bizarre dichotomy of self-aggrandizing intellectuallism and mouthbreathing fanboydom]

Fire Jerry Kill.

A unique blend of snazzy graphics and totally offensive offensiveness.

by CPT Hoolie on Oct 27, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is this one of those sites where my boss gets mad at me for clicking on the link?

Because I probably don’t need any more of those showing up on the interweb records.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 27, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, it is an actual site.

Got called out on Gameday as being despicable and something else not nice.

by GoAUpher on Oct 27, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is SFW as far as I can tell...

…though spraying coffee on your computer screen probably isn’t good for continued employment.

by CPT Hoolie on Oct 27, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh my goodness!

This is fantastic, and I’m pretty sure that I’m going to be bookmarking that for later. Laughing hysterically when you’re supposed to be E-mailing clients is probably not a good idea.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 27, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only a fool would make fun of Minnesota.

It invites karmic apocalypse. Minnesota is going to beat someone who least expects it.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ball

Man lost forty lbs or something and spartan stadium was all impressed with his swivel hips

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by Graham Filler on Oct 26, 2011 10:56 AM CDT via iPhone app reply actions  

I nominate her for the best back in the conference. Can photoshop do a 90-degree rotation for us?

I thought that T.Rex was the best back since Woodhead but now I’ve changed my mind.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, let's ignore Silas Redd...

…because he played an “extra” game against Alabama with the stoutest run defense in the country.

by drockPSU on Oct 26, 2011 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Agree about Redd.

He had 65 yards on 22 carries against Alabama this year, with a long of only 8, which means he was consistently grinding his way to positive yardage. Discounting the guy from Tennessee who went for 67 yards after picking up 15 yards on a draw play late in the game against Alabama’s 2nd string defense, Silas Redd has the best rushing performance against Alabama’s defense by far. The next highest total was 35 yards by Arkansas’ running back.

I think Redd is being underrated by a lot of people.

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Oct 26, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just watch him run.

I honestly haven’t seen a RB all year do some of the things Redd has done. He’ll get hit at the line, and you think he’s being tackled, but he twists around, keeps churning, and picks up a few more yards, if not completely break the tackle. He’s not particularly large, but he’s quick and damned slippery. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen him get swallowed up in a mass of bodies at the line, only to emerge on the other side and get some more yardage. I don’t know how it happens, Bill O’Reilly can’t explain it. The fact that he’s doing this even though the other teams are aware of the sideshow act at the QB position is just impressive.

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by 06Lion on Oct 26, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

This post has so many parallels to another B1G player

I honestly haven’t seen a -RB-QB all year do some of the things -Redd-he has done. He’ll get hit at the line, and you think he’s being tackled, but he twists around, keeps churning, and picks up a few more yards, if not completely break the tackle. He’s not particularly large, but he’s quick and damned slippery. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen him get swallowed up in a mass of bodies at the line, only to emerge on the other side and get some more yardage. I don’t know how it happens, -Bill O’Reilly-God can’t explain it.

Anyone want to take a guess?

by SpartyFever on Oct 26, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gosh, I'll never guess.

Say, is your mom the best mom in the whole Big Ten Conference?

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jokes on you

Persa

How dare you accuse me of liking anything Michigan??

by SpartyFever on Oct 26, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe these Husker guys would like him better

were we to call him “Big” Redd.

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by SubLime on Oct 26, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeaaaahhh

Silas Redd is an absurdly good running back, and this article is a sham.

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by 06Lion on Oct 26, 2011 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

It is kind of adorable that the running back with the most yards in the conference is ignored.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Oct 26, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, the post about the most literate mom in the entire world?

That would be my mom. More to follow.

“Poesy and The Art of the Arm-Punt: Complexity and Contradiction in Big Ten Humanities.”

Of course, my favorite poet is Weldon Kees. Coincidentally, he is from Beatrice, Nebraska. He was the best. Until he jumped off that bridge.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we're having a bridge jumping poet contest, I'm going with John Berryman.

Iowa and Minnesota ties.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Oct 26, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've walked across that bridge!

And I’m jumping off it Saturday evening, if a certain game goes poorly.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge

I would rather run off immersed in delusion until the rope goes taut.

by silkhawk on Oct 27, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This summarizes

my fantasy that Northwestern will make a bowl this year.

A rec for you.

by MNWildcat on Oct 27, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not even sure why Coker is in the conversation

He’s been underachieving in my and most Iowa fan’s eyes. Redd, Ford and Ball have all looked much better. Hell, even Herron and his magical tats have looked better.

by mikjones24 on Oct 26, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Ford?

The eye test would say Coker is underachieving, but I think he’s actually been decent. I think that the expectations were extremely high going in. He’s still the fourth highest yardage gainer in the conference. However, for the sake of argument, let’s putt Redd in there instead. He has a lot of yards this season, but also has a lower YPC than both Ball and Burkhead AND has only hit paydirt 6 times. I just don’t see him as the best, but hey, it is what it is. As for Ford, well, he can be flashy but he also disappears. He’s averaging under 4 yards per carry, which I think is low for a feature back. That could just be me, though.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Redd also played against the toughest run defense in the country.

And is still leading the conference in yards.

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by U-God on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where's Pennsylvania? Is that back east or something?

Rex (latin for Ruler, or King, you know) prefers to play west of Youngstown.

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by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't change YPC and TDs

I don’t doubt Redd is a stud, and for all intents and purposes, I should definitely have included him here. For that, I apologize. Still, using the “but he played against the toughest run defense in the country,” card and ignoring the fact that he has also gone up against Temple, Indiana, E. Michigan, Indiana St. etc. I still think he’s third or fourth best back overall.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what outstanding run defenses have Ball or Burkhead faced?

One quality run defense each, maybe? None on the caliber of Alabama?

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by 06Lion on Oct 26, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eastern Michigan's Run D is better than most of Burkhead's opponents

Run Defense Rankings
Temple: 10
Eastern Michigan: 56

Fresno State: 97
Washington: 57
Wyoming: 100
Minnesota: 96

by drockPSU on Oct 26, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's helpful

Hey, where do you find overall ranking? I looked for them, but couldn’t find them. Apparently the NCAA doesn’t like team rankings on stats.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bookmarked this link

a long time ago.

NCAA Football Statistics

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by 06Lion on Oct 26, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is a good one too

Seriously.

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by 06Lion on Oct 26, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a dirty trick...

Thanks for the real link, though.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coker has improved during the season

He was not healthy early in the season. First three games he averaged 3.9 ypc.

Last four games he has averaged 5.6 ypc. Even against PSU, he averaged more YPC than he did in any of the first three games. He seems to be rounding into form, but I still haven’t see the decisive explosiveness that I saw last year against, say Ohio St.

BTW, just looking at Big Ten stats, Burkhead has 67 carries for 332 yds (5.0 ypc).

Coker has 63 carries for 337 yds (5.3 ypc).

Coker started the season injured and has a better line. Burkhead padded his stats against Wyoming. Ultimately though, I think they have roughly the same ability. If KennardHusker wants to say Burkhead is better, I won’t argue. Although, i do agree with others—he shouldn’t have left Redd out of his analysis. He’s a nice back and probably is more talented than either Coker or Burkhead.

I just wanna see Kirk Ferentz cry.

by nattybumpo on Oct 26, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care who has the best single running back

since I’d prefer to have the best backfield.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Oct 26, 2011 11:23 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

If it weren't for the damned QB position

I’d say PSU could lay claim to that.

#Homer

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by 06Lion on Oct 26, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a good debate

Ball has the better o-line and passing threat. Burkhead has another great running threat in Martinez and plays in a scheme that puts a lot of pressure on opposing defenses to stop both of them.

by Stones1981 on Oct 26, 2011 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

We'll see if your statement holds true after this weekend

Based on the fodder your QB has been dishing out this week, the Spartan defense may hold Burkhead to a season low. (go to the MSU presser, fifth from the top)

Highlights:
“The Spartan defense didn’t stop Denard Robinson, the wind did”
“The Spartan defense is just another B1G defense…good, but not great”
“Wisconsin was the better team, MSU got lucky”
“I don’t think Nichol got the touchdown. It should have gone into OT”

On the other hand, Pelini has been very complimentary (coach talk and all). He should probably talk to his QB about what to say in front of the press.

by SpartyFever on Oct 26, 2011 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

He didn't really say all that, surely.

If he said that stuff, I think he might prefer to catch strep throat Friday night and miss the game.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh...

I think this will be an ugly weekend. I have very little faith in stopping that passing game, and this defense will most likely beat the hell out of Nebraska because we still have no passing game. Nothing has shown me otherwise.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, he really did say that stuff.

He’s suicidal.

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by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are many factors that go into being a member of the AAU.

by txhawkeye on Oct 26, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

To paraphrase this article...

Rex Burkhead is the awesomest running back in the B1G. I don’t have strong statistical evidence to support this point, but if I dig deep enough, I can find some sort of index wherein Burkhead looks kinda like Montee Ball’s equal. Therefore, he’s better. QEDMF

That chick was, like, the Pele of anal.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Oct 26, 2011 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I kinda feel bad for Nebraska's OTE writers

Ever since they’ve come to the B1G, they’ve been flamed hard (like Michigan hard). They’re cautious optimism hasn’t been any more than some fans of other schools on here.

Give the guy a break, eh?

by SpartyFever on Oct 26, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, I think this is one of Kennard's better pieces

Granted, the conclusions are a little foregone given his team affiliation, but at least here he’s making an argument and backing up his assertions/conclusions with facts and statistics. If nothing else, Kennard’s post is a welcome jumping-off point for a respectful debate on who is the best RB in the B1G and why.

In my opinion, there has been a general decline here at OTE with a bunch of the newer writers having no interest in writing about anything other than their own teams’ triumph, only to be stunningly silent on the days when the breaks go against them. This team focused myopicness is antithetical to the origination of the site and, I believe, has led to the increase in vitriol and antagonism in discussions (something I freely admit to have been guilty of myself). Put simply, no one wants to hear anything but praise for his team – and condemnation of everyone else’s – and any sense of larger context or comparisons across the league or lost. This post is a welcome change from that.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 26, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

His facts and statistics all point to a contrary result from his conclusion. Ugh.

The only argument he has in favor of Burkhead is that he can line up all over the field. Oh, and that Wisconsin’s offense is awesome. Those are some crackerjack fuckin’ arguments, let me tell you.

That chick was, like, the Pele of anal.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Oct 26, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm angry because I point out obvious bullshit?

I’m open to an actual argument. I have yet to encounter you purveying one, or KennardHusker, for that matter.

That chick was, like, the Pele of anal.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Oct 26, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, I openly admit Burkhead is not the statistical leader

My thoughts meant to be a stream of consciousness as follows:

Ball is better than Burkhead on paper —>
Burkhead is better than Coker and Redd on paper —>
Does paper really tell the whole story? —>
Burkhead isn’t getting a lot of attention nationally —>
I like Burkhead and will write an OBVIOUSLY biased article to start discussion of best RB in the conference —>
Wisconsin and Iowa fans scream bloody murder because Ball is obviously the current best RB in the B1G

Seriously, my goal as a writer is not necessarily to always be unbiased. That’s what the guys at the WWL are supposed to be doing. What good is it to write something like, “Ball is the best because he has the most TDs.” First, it isn’t interesting. Second, it does not and will not mean anything because it’s just a recapping a small piece of a bigger picture. Third, we have tons of writers at OTE who can write these ‘unbiased’ pieces from their point-of-view. I’m the Nebraska guy, and try to write from that standpoint.

I like OTE because discussion happens, and I like people getting fired up about my point-of-view. Does that mean I don’t think Burkhead is underrated? Nope, I think people overlook him here because he plays for Nebraska. Does that also mean I think he should be RB of the year over Ball? To this point, not even a little bit. Did I accomplish my goal by getting people fired up? Yeah, just a little bit.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

The people at the 'WWL' are supposed to be maximizing the hits on their particular article, and the site as a whole

They couldn’t give two shits about integrity, or objectivity, or holding any sort of respectable banner for the profession of sports journalism.

/White Michael Vick begrudgingly nods his head in the corner

by cwel87 on Oct 26, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, I like biased writing. I'm in favor of it, in part because I think it's a more accurate statement about what people are thinking, and in part because I think objectivity is a pipe dream.

Go on, rep your guy; that’s part of what makes college football interesting. Just know if I think your argument doesn’t cut it, I’m going to say so, and usually profanely, because that’s how I think.

That chick was, like, the Pele of anal.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Oct 26, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duely noted and accepted

I think the only way this is fun if people are themselves, and if you’re a profane thinker then you should speak profanely. When people write what they’re thinking, they give good information into what a fanbase is all about. That’s why I’ve learned more on OTE in a few months than I ever did over at the WWL or any other major network site. I think the overall intelligence level on SBNation in general seems to be higher… or more concentrated. Either way, I think it’s what makes posts like this worthwhile.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of a quote...from myself, on this very site, directed at another writer:

“I’m not here to kiss your ass. I’m here to tell you you’re wrong.

You’re wrong."

I kind of agree with HoyaGoon’s previous sentiment on assertions based on nothing, and this article actually being a breath of fresh air compared to most of the side work done recently.

by cwel87 on Oct 26, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rhetoric is a long-forgottn Course of Study in the Big Ten Conference. There are many schools in the Big Ten Conference. I forget how many, its not 10. However.

There are many words in the English Language, and we use them in different Combinations in order to construct arguments. An argument is Not Yelling, no, an argument (properly, “Argument”) is a form of Reasoned Discource. Lawyers have a strong requirement for Rhetoric and argument (properly, “Argument”). They are good at it. (Or they get fired.) Lawyers are good at resolving conflict. That’s because, in conflict, it’s like sports, which is like conflict — you have to think about it, but it is. Anyway, in conflict, somebody always loses. No, this is not a reference to Minnesota football 2011, that’s not going to happen, no sir.

When Discourcing (reasonably) it’s like Paying Bills or, Paying Bills and then talking to the wife about not actually having enough money to pay all of them. That’s when, Rhetoric, must be utilised to create argument (properly, “Argument”) in order to create Compelling Opinion. Well, see, it’s really hard to create Compelling Opinion under certain sicumstances. (Or, pay bills!!!) One, I can think of, is when your drunk. Very few compelling arguments (properly, “Argument”, capitalized) are created by Drunk People. Sports is an activity that attracts beer. Many people enjoy sports, and beer. Well, you can see the Problem. This is why Rhetoric, a long-forgotten course of Study in the Humanities Wing of Big Ten schools, is important.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey baby...

It’s flourishing in the departments at Iowa, Minnesota, Penn State, and Wisconsin at least. I would add Indiana but for the sectarian violence between the Rhetoric and Cultural Studies camps that erupted there back in the ’90s.

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Oct 26, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

On a more serious note,

I wonder how interesting (and populated) this blog would be if we were prohibited from writing about our home team? That would solve the homerific/nastiness/we’re the best of all the rest stuff.

OTOH there might be all of 100 words per week published.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stopped reading after five national championships

What else really has to be said at that point?

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Oct 26, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Putting this 1994 argument to rest....

1994 Penn State beat four teams that finished in the Top 15 of the final AP Poll: USC, Ohio State, Michigan, and Oregon. Average margin of victory against those opponents: 24.5 points.

1994 Nebraska beat only two teams that finished in the Top 15: Colorado and Miami. Average margin of victory against those opponents: 12 points.

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Oct 26, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

And...

defeting the #4 and #6 ranked teams are much different than the 11-15 teams. : )

Argument remains unsettled.

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse me...
  1. and #6 teams Nebraska beat. Rawr!

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Number 3.

The pound sign with a 3 is a xhtml command?

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK

Nebraska’s opponents who played in bowl games (excluding Miami of course) went 1-3 their respective bowls.

Penn State’s opponents who played in bowl games (excluding Oregon) went 3-1 in their respective bowls. USC won by 41, Illinois won by 30, and Michigan won by 10. A 9-3 Ohio State team lost to a heavily favored 11-1 Alabama team on a 50 yd touchdown pass with 42 seconds left.

I would have loved to see the two teams play. it should have been a split national title.

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Oct 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back in the day when #1 raredidn't always play #2 in NC game...

It would have made the most sense for them to go head-to-head, considering Miami list to an unraked team during regular play that year. (I’m such a loser for remembering that, btw)

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's how I paraphrased it, oddly.

However, I don’t have a macro, programmed to spits out all of that history stuff.

The future’s past’s so bright, I gotta wear shades!

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you guys realize that my post was in jest...

In the spirit of today’s homerism. I will try to insert disclaimers from here forward.

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually

If you google “best college football team in history” most people say its either the 71 huskers or the 95 huskers

by Fake Pelini on Oct 26, 2011 2:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nah

neither team could hold a candle to the 1906 Yale team

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 26, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

5 games that season against teams in the top 15 at the time they played Miami.

71 Nebraska played 3. 95 nebraska played 4. Are you sure you want to get haughty about schedules, son?

That chick was, like, the Pele of anal.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Oct 26, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will all day long

when you try some bullshit argument about “best team ever” about a team who had never played a top ten team during the reg season.

The truth is, you can never compare a team’s domiance against another from a completely different year, let alone, a different era. But, by all means, argument solved – because you said so.

Now get back to your coloring book, sweetie pie.

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously, all comparisons between years or eras are going to be subjective.

Subjectively speaking, the 2001 Hurricanes, with all the talent that they had on their roster, would make short work of any one dimensional squad like the 1995 Huskers, no matter how well-developed that one dimension was. The 95 Huskers were a juggernaut because they had the best offensive line in the country, and the best defensive line in the country. Guess what: so did the Hurricanes. I’ll buy the NFL analysis as to who had more talent between the two of them.

That chick was, like, the Pele of anal.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Oct 26, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since when did a traditional Nebraska team ever rely on raw talent?

They recruited their token black dudes from southern Florida and California to carry the ball, and the rest, in large part, were a bunch of corn-munching farm kids who worked their asses off to fit into the “Nebraska System”. The “system” being a style of play where they could have given the oppsing team their playbook, relayed the upcoming play to the opposing defense, gave them time to get into formation to stop it, and they would have still ran their asses over.

It doesn’t matter how you do it, or how many different ways you do it, blue-chip recruit or walk-on, it matters that they put up 62 points on the next best team in the country in ’95.

That is dominance, son.

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is just so much to dislike in this post.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Oct 26, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

from southern Florida and California...

New Jersey? Hello? Mike Rozier?

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Oct 26, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm 27.

I am speaking more of the teams in the 90’s. But point taken.

by SteveW0720 on Oct 26, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude


“Token black dudes” is not the preferred nomenclature.
“Four star recruits”, please…

Same screen name since AOL- 'cause like many Nebraska fans, I'm stuck in the '90s.

by crowe1856 on Oct 26, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

They didn't play Ohio State in '95.

Again, ‘95 Nebraska was a juggernaut. I’ve compared them to the Wehrmacht in 1940 before. But how did they win their games? By dominating the lines on both sides of the ball. I don’t see them doing that against the 2001 Hurricanes, given the line excellence displayed by the Hurricanes. And, without absolutely controlling the lines, Miami’s versatility would, I think, win out over Nebraska’s lack thereof.

That chick was, like, the Pele of anal.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Oct 26, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

that Miami team was simply brutal, they just curb-stomped everyone in front on them. They had the swagger and the dominance of the Jimmy Johnson-era Canes, without all the downside (penalties, thuggish play, etc.). That team was perhaps the most complete college football team I have ever seen.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 26, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

2004 USC
  1. from start to finish.

Beat four teams that finished ranked in the top 20.
Beat three teams that finished in the top 10.
Destroyed undefeated #2 Oklahoma in the title game.

but…

(/vacated)

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Oct 26, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which was it was hilarious

when, in the lead up to the 2006 Rose Bowl MNCG between USC and Texas, ESPN was going all out to declare 2005 USC as the GREATEST TEAM EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (much like they did with 2002 Miami). Hell, that 2005 USC wasn’t even the best USC team of the mid-decade, let alone ever. 2004’s team had an amazing defense, while the 2005’s defense was mainly theoretical.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 26, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO NO NO

NO NO NO…..it was 2003 OU that was the greatest of all time! Until they lost to KSU in the B12 title game which means that 2003 KSU is the new GOAT.

The 2003 team was the highest scoring squad (at the time) in Oklahoma’s storied history, scoring 601 points to their opponents 214. The season included seven games of 50 points or more with the highlights including a 77–0 drubbing of Texas A&M and a 65–13 defeat of Texas. The team, led by Heisman Trophy winner Jason White, was billed as one of “the greatest college football teams of all time.” This assumption was short-lived as the Sooners were upset in the Big 12 Championship Game by Kansas State.
– Wikipedia

by JimmytheRed on Oct 26, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That team was amazing

It’s ridiculous to try and compare greatest team’s ever. Every era is a little different and it’s extremely difficult to say who was best. For example, I’m partial to 1995 Nebraska. Do I think they take out this 2004 USC team? Probably not. The power option and toss-sweep had been figured out. How about 2001 Miami that was brought up, that team was also stacked and had speed and size everywhere. I think a better way to assess is by eras. In the BCS era, 2004 USC gets the nod over 2001 Miami. In the 1990s, I’m picking ‘95 Nebraska because of their absolute domination of everyone. In the 80s, I’m going with ‘87 Miami. Before that? Well, it gets a bit dicey for me… I wasn’t alive then.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd give 2001 Miami an edge over 2004 USC

for the sole reason, albeit an imperfect metric, of how many of its members went on to solid to stellar pro careers. What’s always amazing about the USC teams of the mid-decade was just how dominant their skill players were (QB, RB, WR) but how big of busts they were in the pros whereas Miami’s players made it in the pros and are still playing – though many are now on the downside of their careers.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 26, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting take

From a collegiate standpoint, though, that USC team was unbelievable. Miami had a NFL roster, but USC had a college roster with a college strategy. I remember watching USC toy with OU in that title game. It was one of the most dominant performances I have ever seen.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

And I admit it is a flawed metric. My point was, the overall talent USC had at its disposable was so much better than everyone else, that it obscures their limitations. Or, put it this way, the general level talent level in college football circa 2001 was better than that in 2004. Miami’s players looked dominant, and were; USC’s players also looked dominant, but were a product of the time and circumstances.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 26, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just wikipedia'd that Miami roster

Wow…

Ken Dorsey, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Andre Johnson, Bryant McKinnie, DJ Williams, Jonathan Vilma, and Ed Reed. If you look deeper, most of the other guys made rosters and had semi-decent careers as backups. I remember being terrified of that 2002 National Title game that Nebraska had no business being in and then they destroyed the Huskers. Maybe that’s why I forgot… I had purged it from the memory bank.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 26, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

2009 Alabama would be in the mix had they beaten a Texas team WITH Colt McCoy.

They beat FIVE teams that ranked in the Top 20, including three in the Top 10.

They handed the teams that finished behind them in the final rankings (Texas and Florida) their only losses of the season.

Of course, I’m in the camp that had McCoy not gotten hurt, Texas rolls. We’ve since found out that Garrett Gilbert sucks major balls and he had the Horns within 3 points with 2:30 to go in the game.

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Oct 26, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pitt has NINE national titles, I'm told.

I didn’t know and I didn’t go looking for that info because, you know, they’re Pitt and that’s all in the past.

Go Fight Try Win Go Pitt Yay.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 26, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Husker Monkey


is embarrassed by homerism.

/has monkeycrush on Burkhead anyway

Same screen name since AOL- 'cause like many Nebraska fans, I'm stuck in the '90s.

by crowe1856 on Oct 26, 2011 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

FWIW

Redd has been added to the Maxwell watch list.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Oct 26, 2011 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Why is Coker in this article at all?

I mean, Iowa was 12th in running a couple weeks back, thats how bad Coker was early on in the season. sure he is just now starting to do better, but his stats right now suck. did you throw him in there because he makes your RB look better?

"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts

by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 27, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

12th in the BIG i should say

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 27, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Montee Ball

If you were going to name the award for B1G ALL-Conference running back going into week 8, I think it would have to be Wisconsin’s Montee Ball. Just in the 3 weeks of conference play, Ball has ran for 408 yards and scored 9 touchdowns, including 1 receiving. He also had 100 yard plus game and two trips to the endzone against arguably the best defense in the B1G in Michigan St. It will be interesting to see what kind of numbers Rex Burkhead will produce against Sparties defense. Rex is coming off an impressive performance against arguably the worst team in the B1G rushing 117 yards and a touchdown. But in a week 6 loss against a tough Wisconsin defense, Burkhead fell short of 100yards, with his longest run being 12 yards. More interesting if Michigan State can hold Rex from having a big day and big gains, can Sparty come away with its fourth consecutive conference win? With all that said the numbers are in favor for Montee Ball halfway through the season. We still have 5 more weeks to go and the argument for either running back will be decided then.

by nicholas.delfrate on Oct 27, 2011 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Montee Ball

If you were going to name the award for B1G ALL-Conference running back going into week 8, I think it would have to be Wisconsin’s Montee Ball. Just in the 3 weeks of conference play, Ball has ran for 408 yards and scored 9 touchdowns, including 1 receiving. He also had 100 yard plus game and two trips to the endzone against arguably the best defense in the B1G in Michigan St. It will be interesting to see what kind of numbers Rex Burkhead will produce against Sparties defense. Rex is coming off an impressive performance against arguably the worst team in the B1G rushing 117 yards and a touchdown. But in a week 6 loss against a tough Wisconsin defense, Burkhead fell short of 100yards, with his longest run being 12 yards. More interesting if Michigan State can hold Rex from having a big day and big gains, can Sparty come away with its fourth consecutive conference win? With all that said the numbers are in favor for Montee Ball halfway through the season. We still have 5 more weeks to go and the argument for either running back will be decided then.

by nicholas.delfrate on Oct 27, 2011 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

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