Delayed Kneejerk Reaction, Week 11
Wow, the week that was. Part of me was glad I was halfway around the world, yet I still couldn't get away from the awful tragedy that unfolded at Penn State. It really overshadowed football and put the game in the proper perspective, but how we all wish it had been for reasons other than we have in front of us.
But the Penn State-Nebraska game was played, and rightly so. As were five other games that involved B1G teams. We saw healing, a non-conference laugher, a major upset, a rivalry game that wasn't, and what might be shaping up to be The Last Stand of Ron Zook.
Let's get to it, and see what the Kneejerk Reaction is for this week.
Northwestern 28, Rice 6. Three weeks ago, I had mistaken Northwestern for road kill on the side of I-64 near my house. They sat at 2-5, and it just seemed a matter of time before they lost two more games and eliminated themselves from a bowl game. But they rolled Indiana, and then stunned Nebraska, and essentially toyed with Rice for three quarters. Now they're 5-5 and almost all but assured of a bowl game. If they can beat Nebraska, they can beat Minnesota and/or Michigan State, right? Right? It's a much better team then the one that lost to Army, but which Northwestern team is going to show up these last two weeks---the five game losing streak one, or the three game winning streak one? I'll bet my money on the latter and a bowl game for the Wildcats.
Nebraska 17, Penn State 14. When Nebraska went up 17-0, Penn State would have had every right to say to heck with it, and roll over and get routed. I don't think that anyone would have blamed them. But they didn't. They fought back, and came within the length of a football of maybe getting a win. It would have been one of the most savory wins in Nittany Lion history considering the backdrop, but the effort to come back should make Penn Staters just as proud. Even with the loss, Penn State is still in the driver's seat in the Leaders division, and a win next week against OSU will set up a division title showdown with the Badgers, as long as they take care of business. For Nebraska, it was an important win after their stunning home loss to Northwestern, and it sets up what is essentially a Legends Division elimination game with Michigan next week. They're still a game behind Sparty, but if MSU trips up in the last couple of weeks Nebraska holds the head to head tiebreaker, so it's not over yet.
Michigan State 37, Iowa 21. A big win for Sparty, and an equally big loss for Iowa, as they're out of the race for the Legends. MSU overcame recent big game road bugaboos to whip Iowa, and the Iowa defense lived up to the worst fears of Hawkeye fans. MSU is really in command to go to Indianapolis, as they should be favored in their final two games against Northwestern and Indiana, and even though we've all enjoyed our share of 'Sparty, NO!' moments over the last years, John L isn't on the MSU sidelines, and they have solid senior leadership. I will be stunned if MSU ISN'T in Indianapolis at this point. For Iowa, they were a longshot to make it to Indy anyways, but they really came out flat in a game that had a lot at stake. It was essentially over at halftime, and Iowa never really threatened. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth after the Minnesota loss, and I kind of dismissed it as an over reaction to an upset loss to a rival, as all fanbases do. But after today I wonder if Ferentz' message and methods really might be growing stale in Iowa City.
Purdue 26, OSU 23 (OT). Remember when we thought Purdue might have been the worst team in the conference earlier this year? Yeah, neither does Purdue. Or Ohio State. That was a great effort by the Boilermakers on Saturday. Their lines dominated on both sides of the ball, and although Braxton MIller looks like he could be a tantalizing player, he makes me long for a Terrelle Pryor armpunt. As crazy as this season has been, I'm not saying that win guaranteed Purdue a bowl game, because they need one more, but you really have to like their chances at this point. For the Buckeyes, the lost season continues. Another day, another notice of allegations by the NCAA, followed by an uninspired defensive performance, and an offense that woke up too late to win the game. I like Luke Fickell and he'll be a good coach someday, but it won't be at Ohio State, and it won't be next year.
Wisconsin 42, Minnesota 13. A completely predictable outcome, Wisconsin is back on a little bit of a roll after two gut wrenching losses, and are in position to take the Leaders division from Penn State if PSU stumbles. The Badgers looked very good against Minnesota, save for one TD drive and one special teams breakdown, and when the Gophers threatened to make a game of it, Bucky put it in high gear and ended it. For the Gophers, I can't say there's not much to take away from a beat down like this, but they were in it longer than I thought. At one point, they got it to 28-13, and were hanging around. Slowly, Jerry Kill is turning it around in Minnesota. There was the great win against Iowa, a surprisingly good game against MSU, and a couple positive moments from this game, but it will be awhile.
Michigan 31, Illinois 14. This was a solid win for Michigan, but are now having to worry about the health (again) of Denard Robinson. Yeah, Brady Hoke said DR could've returned, but you still have this nagging feeling that he's one hit away from his season being over. That said, Devin Gardner looked good in relief, and the Wolverines have a new super duper running back in Fitzgerald Toussaint, which is infinitely easier to spell than Tim Biakaghvbdsshhzztuka. Michigan is essentially down two games to MSU, as they would also lose a head to head tiebreaker with Sparty, but stranger things have happened in the Big Ten, and this year is especially nuts, so anything is possible. They have an offense that is evolving past just Denard Robinson, and their defense is miles better than they were last year. They'll be a tough out in the post season. For Illinois, wow. Just over a month ago they were 6-0, heading towards the top 10, and the bottom has just dropped out. I think they were the first team in the B1G to become bowl eligible, and Ron Zook was my first choice for coach of the year. Now I would think his seat is even hotter, but win out the last two games and win a bowl and I think he survives. But his last two games are a superior Wisconsin and Minnesota, a team he lost to last year.
We're down to the last two weeks and the B1G will crown division champions for the first time in her history. If I had to wager, I'd say we're looking at a Wisconsin-MSU rematch. MSU will be tough to unseat atop the Legends, and Penn State has a tough two games to finish out, and I see Wisconsin passing them up.
But that's right now. Let me look at things and get back to me in 10 minutes, because the way this year has gone, just about anything short of a Minnesota-Indiana championship game is possible.
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It's been an odd year
If Purdue gets better special teams play at Penn State they are a Wisconsin loss away from controlling their destiny in the Leaders.
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If UW gets better special teams play at either MSU or OSu, they've got the "Why is Wisconsin Here" division by the fucking throat.
/Does NOT want to see 64 blocking in punt formation ever again.
I just want to watch the world burn.
by Bob Genghiskhan on Nov 14, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Impressed by Purdue, Michigan, MSU
MSU put to rest any worries about their road performances this week. I thought Illinois may come out firing with their backs to the wall, but that Michigan defense gasp really took them to the shed. And Purdue, just when Danny Hope seems to be on the way to assuring himself of being fired, pulls out yet another upset win over Ohio State. Ohio State is now 2-4 over their last six in West Lafayette, two of those losses coming against Purdue teams with losing records going into the game and one of the wins requiring the infamous “Holy Buckeye” play to win.
Happy week for a Purdue alumn/Michigan student.
Us Spartan fans are in a weird position where we should be rooting for UofM
A Michigan win over Nebraska combined with a MSU win over Indiana next week gives us the division crown.
And that...
…would free MSU up to have a harmless “Sparty NOOOOOO!!!” moment in the finale and lose in Evanston, in a game that would be all but meaningless for MSU (since they’d be guaranteed the Indy spot anyways), but would all but guarantee Northwestern a bowl berth (assuming, perhaps WAY prematurely, that the Cats can beat Minny this weekend).
So, as a Cats fan, I say…..go Michigan???
Just because the division would be locked up
Doesn’t make it a meaningless game for MSU. Wins are good for recruiting no matter who you’re playing, and if MSU loses the title game it will have an impact on what bowl MSU makes it to.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
Trust me, I get it.
But if the division’s locked up, and you know you’re going to Indy, and you want to be healthy for the game that decides who goes to the Rose Bowl, and your opponent is shooting to guarantee a bowl berth and has a history of playing close games against you, and it’s 2 days after Thanksgiving…..
Doesn’t that at least SUGGEST the possibility of a let-down for MSU? You play to win every game, obviously, but how willing will Dantonio be to expose key players to potential injury in a game that has no bearing on their Rose Bowl hopes (especially if Northwestern jumps ahead early, which they did against Illinois, Nebraska, Michigan, Indiana and Penn State)?
Don’t take this the wrong way Spartans.. But even if MSU locks up a trip to Indy, they’re not guaranteed a victory there. So yeah making sure they have the highest possible ranking possible before the Big Ten Championship is something they would play for. If they lose the title game and end up 9-4 before bowl selection they can kiss any chance of an At-Large bid away. Granted 9-3 probably does not get them one anyway, but if I’m Dantonio, I’m pushing for winning out no matter what.
Injuries? MSU doesn't have to worry about injuries!
Because apparently all that is needed is for them to lie on the field for 5 minutes, then take 1-2 plays off and they’re good to go again, fully healed!
I keed, I keed…
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Nov 14, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Shhhh, Chad.
Damnit!
Nothing to see here, MSU… No game on November 26th, just preparing for the B1G Championship Game.
by MNWildcat on Nov 14, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm gonna sit this one out.
I just can’t bring myself to root for Michigan.
Also, I cancelled my plans to attend the MSU @ NW game. The only games I’ve been to this year? @ND and @NEB. Obviously, I’m a jinx.
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You'll be fine
Sparty has gutted us the last few times in Evanston. Nothing to see here. Besides, good seats are still available.
/Note to Chad. Do it this way.
You know the rule, don't you?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 14, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Eh
We just need to take care of our own business and everything will fall into place for us.
Plus, this Spartan will never root for anyone from Ann Arbor. Ever.
Feeling is mutual.
Even with two sisters that went to msu.
Ain’t.
Happenin.
by GoWings2008 on Nov 14, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
I'll do it, but only in case of dire necessity.
Since Northwestern beat Nebraska, we do not need Michigan to do the same. I won’t be too broken up if they do, naturally, but all the same I’m not going to be mad if they melt down either.
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The question remains.
For all the back slapping that is going around about Purdue’s “resurgence”, if they lose to Iowa and need to win the bucket just to become bowl eligible…does Danny Hope return next year? Does any record other than 7-5 bring him back?
Congrats on a good win over the Buckeyes.
Anything better than 3-9 would have been enough
Although 4-8 with another loss to IU might have gotten him the ax. The AD doesn’t like to fire coaches and Hope has some years left on his deal.
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by babaoreally on Nov 14, 2011 9:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Getting to a bowl....
assures he sticks around….even if Purdue is 6-6 with a loss to Iowa and a win in the Bucket game.
Given Purdue’s ugly losses to Wisky and Michigan, I wouldn’t call this a “resurgence.” Its nice to be in the bowl conversation again though. Even though it was condescending, your backslapping comment made me laugh.
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As an Iowa fan, I'm so disappointed in this season
If it was any other team than OMHR, I would say we lose, but damnit…..it’s hard NOT to get up for this game…..HATE HATE HATE
White Horn Gold Pants
At this stage
I’m not sure you can count on any B1G team doing what’s expected.
Regarding the PSUvsUNL game, Nebraska has had a maddening habit of taking their foot off the gas in the 4th quarter in a few games this season, so the mini-comeback wasn’t a surprise. Fans on both sides tried to keep things classy in this “rivalry” game, but I do have one last wish from a football-only perspective. When PSU fans look back on this dark period and they recall this game when they could just be fans, root for their football team, and have a feel-good moment, Nebraska walked into their stadium and stole away the win. That’s what rivalries are for.
Ferentz is growing stale
he has to be the absolute worst coach at getting his players charged up for a game, because that is the only way i can explain us beating teams like Michigan and Penn State and Wisconsin and Michigan State pretty regularly just to go out and lose to the Minnesotas and Northwesterns. it feels like its been a problem with Iowa forever.
but im willing to chalk this entire season up to team inexperience, because this is a team of guys starting their first year in college ball right now and i dont even think the best Iowa players are on the field at the moment in key positions, but frankly Ferentz has to do better as a coach next year or you will start hearing murmurs of wanting a new guy to coach here.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Nov 14, 2011 9:47 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ferentz is 6-5 against MSU.
Ferentz is 6-6 vs. UW.
Ferentz is 5-4 vs. UM
All virtual toss ups.
You are correct about PSU though. Ferentz is 8-3 against them which speaks to a “regular” win.
you did actual research before responding? pft..............nerd
i kiiiiid i kiiiiid, my point was mostly we lose to the small guys too much
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Nov 14, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
We kind of are the small guys though
Our defense is this year anyways. Let’s face it. We have some solid contributors at certain positions, but overall, we’ve got hole all over. I expect JVB and our defense to be much better. If Sash had stayed this year, our defense would be MUCH better. We simply lost too many players on that DLine. They’re not even close to as talented. It’s not good when Broderick Binns looks like an all-american.
White Horn Gold Pants
You forgot to end your post with, "War Eagle. I'mma hang up and lissen, PAWWWWWLLLL."
I just want to watch the world burn.
by Bob Genghiskhan on Nov 14, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
I think there might be an expletive missing in that name.
Tim Biakaghcb****dsshhzztuka.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 14, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
IA! IA! BIAKABUTUKA F'TAGN!
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Nov 14, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldnt say Wisconsin could take control if Penn State stumbles
It doesnt matter what Penn State does. Beat Ilinois, then beat PSU and we’re in, stumble or not.
Paterno's name taken off the Championship Trophy
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/33310400

Great move by Delany. The only move really
You win with people (not named Joe Bauserman)
Yep. Now they can name it after Woody Hayes.
/Delaney slugs Bielema as he collects his trophy.
I just want to watch the world burn.
by Bob Genghiskhan on Nov 14, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Bielema's going to win Coach of the Year at some point.
I just want to watch the world burn.
by Bob Genghiskhan on Nov 14, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
I dont agree with the move, but i understand the move
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Nov 14, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Well
I welcome the arrival of one name trophies. Never liked the twin name thing. Also I love the fact our championship trophy is named for the one member who doesn’t have a football program anymore.
Also never got Paterno’s name being on this. Dude had a losing record against Tressel, Carr, and Ferentz. How on earth do you name the championship after the guy who had a losing record against other active (or recently active in Carr’s case) coaches…
by Wolv1984 on Nov 14, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So
Everyone has gone through the scenario of a 10-3 Neb/MSU championship game loser making a BCS game, but what about a 10-3 Wisconsin team?
Based on what I've been seeing here
the more likely scenario is that the CG loser goes to Cap One, and any second BCS berth would go to one of the teams that finish second in their division. Looks like we need a little help to get a second berth for a 3 loss team at this point, though, as it appears there will be plenty of 1 or 2 loss teams available for at large spots.
No 3-loss team is getting an at-large.
Not this year. There will be too many better options (Stanford, a 2-loss B1G team that didn’t win its division, Boise State could potentially be a second non-AQ choice).
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