Huskers-Wolverines: The Game Nebraska Fans Have Been Looking Forward To
Full disclosure, I hate Michigan. I have trouble rooting for the Wolverines under any circumstances that don’t include ND and I there is arguably nothing more satisfying to me than watching Michigan lose. When Grand Poobah James Delany decided Nebraska would be playing Michigan every year as division mates, I got really excited. From here until the next round of expansion, I would be able to fully root against the Wolverines, their stupid stadium, Hail to the Victors, the winged helmets, and the fact that they say GO BLUE even though that is most definitely navy on their uniforms.
To really drive home my hatred, I pondered just posting YouTube videos of Michigan losing in painstaking fashion, but I figured that wasn’t appropriate. Wait, who am I kidding? It's fun every time! Okay, moving on... I wanted to talk a little about where my hate really seems to come from. I mean, why do I care about Michigan so much? It's not like there is a ton of history between the two teams head-to-head. Why can't I wait to see Nebraska-Michigan every single year? Why does this game mean so much? Simple. 1997. Nebraska and Michigan fans are two of the smuggest fanbases in America. Both feel they were robbed in '97. Both are probably wrong. Still, hate is what makes this game so much fun. So I present you with a brief discussion of 1997 and take a quick look at T-Mart and Shoelace - two guys who are extremely similar.
1997 National Championship: Michigan was good, Nebraska was better than you think
The argument always starts with strength of schedule. So let’s go there first:
Michigan played 7 Top 25 opponents in 1997. That included Colorado (8), Iowa (15), MSU (15), PSU (2), Wisconsin (23), OSU (4), and Washington St. (8).
Nebraska only played 4 Top 25 opponents that year: Washington (2), KSU (17), Texas A&M (14), and Tennessee (3).
Looking at that absolutely ‘objectively’ it looks as if Michigan played the harder schedule and deserves to be crowned BEST TEAM EVER. Still, isn’t there more to it? Well, sure. Polls are subjective and change all the time. Of the 7 teams Michigan defeated, only three ended up in the final Top 25 (PSU, OSU, and Wash St.). Of the four opponents Nebraska beat that year that were ranked, all four remained in the final Top 25. Additionally, Missouri finished the season ranked as well. So while it is easy to say that Michigan defeated so many ranked teams (Colorado was so overrated, it is not even funny) you could argue that the Nebraska beat 5 final ranked teams and Michigan only beat 3.
Another thing to point out on the scheduling discussion is Bowl Season. I know that the B1G prides itself on playing football the right way, but 1997 was a bloodbath nationally. Michigan’s opponents that made it to bowl season included PSU, OSU, Wisconsin, Iowa, MSU, and ND. Every single one of them lost their bowl game that year. Nebraska only had four opponents make bowls, but at least two of them beat their opponents (KSU and Washington). If you ask a Nebraska fan about 1997 and say their schedule sucked, it is important to understand that Michigan’s schedule was not infinitely better. In fact, the argument is that it was overrated.
But, but… what about Missouri?
Oh yes, the Flea-Kicker. This is maybe the most memorable play in my fandom. Look, I fully admit that having a fluke play to win the game is not something to be proud of. Still, it isn’t like Michigan went through their schedule without some close calls. The game that stands out to me is the Iowa game, where a late interception was required to clinch that game. I’m not here to dog on Iowa, but that year the Hawkeyes ended the season unranked and Missouri finished ranked. Like we say all the time, it’s not where you start, it’s where you finish. Okay, I say that. Let’s move on.
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Okay, but that &#$@#*&#$ Frost and his whining for the title
That was unfortunate, but probably just as unfortunate as listening to Bob Griese cry about how his son deserved to go out a winner. For everyone who said this was about giving Osborne a championship overlooks the reality that the teams were pretty evenly matched. Nebraska had the Lombardi Award winner (Grant Wistrom), Outland Trophy Winner (Aaron Taylor) and those two were joined by Jason Peter as 1st team All-Americans. Michigan had All-Trophy Woodson (deserved every one of them) and three All-Americans as well (Woodson, Glen Steele, and Jermane Tuman).
In the end, I wish Nebraska could have played Michigan that year. Nebraska was a run-heavy team that everyone said was gimmicky. Regardless, it seemed to do just fine for 13 games. Michigan was a feisty defense that would have been the best challenge all year. On offense, Michigan was led by a good Griese and Nebraska had troubles that year at times. Still, that line at Nebraska was stacked and would have proven to be a tough matchup. Remember, Nebraska took care of Manning that year, and yes I know it was on his swollen knee. Regardless, no team can guarantee they would have won, and no team can really say who deserved the title more.
So why are you writing all this then?
Well, it’s Michigan-Nebraska week. Like I said, this is a game I’ve been looking forward to since Nebraska joined the conference. The game has certainly changed in the past 14 years. Both team is the powerhouse they were in 1997, and the coaches/schemes/fans look different. Nebraska is being led in a multifaceted run-heavy option/read-option game with a lot of power sets from days of old. Michigan is running a hybrid pro style set with the always wily Denard making plays happen. This will never settle the score from 1997, but when Jim Delany and Co. decided that Nebraska and Michigan were in the same division, these were the games he hoped for.
A lot is on the line for both teams. Even with Sparty controlling their destiny for that elusive berth in the inaugural B1G CCG, Nebraska and Michigan are fully alive for the division crown as well. What makes it even more interesting is the reality that a BCS Bowl berth is also on the line. Between history (1997), present day circumstances, and two really fun offenses (most of the time) this game should prove to be one of the more fun outings in the B1G this year.
BONUS SECTION: Martinez vs. Robinson
Okay, this has gotten extremely long, but I promised one last look at the two Quarterbacks. Denard Robinson and Taylor Martinez have extremely similar stats. When I looked them up, I absolutely expected this Shoelace to have the better passing stats by a mile. I was surprised to see that Martinez might actually be the better passer.
Martinez is completing 57.7% of his passes on the season. That is nothing special, but he has looked better as of late. The NW game and the PSU game were actually good outings with Martinez hitting his reads and playing smart football. His mechanics are still awful, but 1,688 yards passing and 10 TDs says they could be worse. Of the 7 INTs he has thrown on the year, three came against Wisconsin and the Sparty pick was a tipped ball. He’s not as bad as it looks. Still, I prefer him running.
Denard is more enigmatic in the passing game. He only has 99 completions this season, and his completion percentage is a whopping 52.4. He does have 13 TDs, but he has thrown 13 INTs as well and only has one game where he has not thrown the ball to the other team. He sure looks prettier throwing the ball than Taylor, which is a bad thing for T-Mart, but he sure isn’t getting it there any more accurately. He can run, though. He has almost 100 more yards rushing than Martinez and three more TDs. Who is better? Hard to say… All I know is that containing both will be the key to Saturday. I’m excited. Oh, and MICHIGAN SUCKS.
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"Hail Varisty... and the fact that they say GO BIG BLUE"
Not sure if trolling….
by Cock D on Nov 16, 2011 1:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
$*@&$&
Rush job. Changing now.
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by KennardHusker on Nov 16, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for pointing that out. It's been a long week.
I know it’s Hail to the Victors… I’ve always known that. In fact, in junior high, we were forced to learn that stupid song in band. I just absolutely blanked. So dumb.
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by KennardHusker on Nov 16, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
Actually just "The Victors"
/proves why everyone hates M fans.
by Cock D on Nov 16, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ya know
I love the imagery that we’ll see on the field; competitive squads, classic jerseys, hell even some option runs. THIS is why it’s so badass that Nebraska is in the B1G.
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by Graham Filler on Nov 16, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I hate you guys, too.
Glad Frost got to share so he didn’t have to whine anymore and old man TO received a nice retirement gift from the coaches poll.
C’mon maaaaan….that M defense was better than LSU and Bama’s this year. Our O and D lines weren’t exactly dog meat, either.
If they played, I’d guess it would’ve been around 28-0 Michigan.
Now that I’ve got my obligatory outlandish statements and trashtalk out of the way, see you Saturday. I actually don’t mind Nebraska – our smugness and arrogance is on another level and that’s not a championship we’ll share with you.
by Good Ol' Oakley on Nov 16, 2011 1:55 PM CST reply actions
hahaha!
I actually really like Michigan fans I meet, but my football hate runs deep. This should be a fantastic weekend of football. Neither team has been super consistent so I don’t know what to expect.
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by KennardHusker on Nov 16, 2011 2:12 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
glad that Michigan
got a nice gift from the media members. Cause they sure as hell didn’t deserve it otherwise. When you haven’t had a title since 1948, you can sell a boatload of merchandise!
It cuts both ways, weiner boy.
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 16, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Nicely done
See, I’m not sure what to think about that 1997 season. I agree that both teams truly deserved the title. All I tell people is that there is no clear cut argument one way or another. Like Oakley said above, there is definitely obligatory outlandish statements and trashtalk needed in this game. Nebraskans have been waiting to hate a B1G team for something outside of reciprocating the “WE HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU’RE FROM NEBRASKA” theme and this is a good opportunity. Will it affect the teams at all? Not even a little bit, but it’s fun!
I was excited to start this hatred because of shared history last week, but then hell broke loose. I know you probably had the same thought at CN. These are probably the only two teams we have recent reason to have fan hatred (and vise versa) towards. Onward hate!
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by KennardHusker on Nov 16, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, quite a stretch of hate-weeks for you guys too
WHO HATES IOWA?!?!?!
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
We hate Iowa

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by Aaron Musfeldt on Nov 17, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
Moose, I thought for sure
That a Boilermaker would respond to your “WHO HATES IOWA?” ping.
Hmmmm, maybe they aren’t really hated rivals afterall.
I've only seen Iowa fans claim Purdue as their MHR
Issues with the nuclear reactor under campus? Coming up with Animal House-like schemes to lure women away from IU? I don’t know what Purdue fans are up to, but apparently Iowa hate isn’t on their list of things to do…
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
Frost already had a ring.
He was on the ’95 squad, redshirting during his transfer from Stanford.
He was also making time with Lawrence Philips girlfriend when… the unpleasantness following the Sparty game occurred.
by Albino Tornado on Nov 16, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
Obligatory.
Fuck Michigan.
…. and Clemson, right?
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Nov 16, 2011 2:03 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
MICHIGAN SUCKS!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 16, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Going to the game!
I can not wait. This should be fun.
So I tried the Barbasol and Rotel dip and I was very dissapointed!
I'm jealous
I think that’s going to be one hell of a trip. I mean, I’m not a huge fan of the drive to Michigan (hopefully you’re flying) but that game will be so much fun.
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by KennardHusker on Nov 16, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Live in AZ
So I am absoulutely flying.
GBR!
So I tried the Barbasol and Rotel dip and I was very dissapointed!
I try not to worry
about the “who was better” argument too much, given my bias anyway. I will say that the 1997 Nebraska team gets mentioned often enough, because of ties to the 94 & 95 team, plus it being TOs last season.
One big difference I think between Robinson and Martinez is that Robinson looks quicker on the first step and has better change of direction. Once Martinez gets going in a straight line though, he’s hard to catch. I think Robinson finds those small creases a little better. Martinez has done a better job checking down to his second receiving option the last couple games, and he’s more cognizant of not taking big hits this season.
yes
I’m actually shocked by how similar they are, passing-wise. The occasional straight line completions that make you go, “would you look at that”…followed by the wobbles into defenders hands.
And they both throw a nice deep ball, ahem, as long as the WR is single covered.
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by Graham Filler on Nov 16, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
It kind of cracks me up that a nebraska fan has to rely upon Colorado to do his on-field trolling for him.
I just want to watch the world burn.
by Bob Genghiskhan on Nov 16, 2011 4:31 PM CST reply actions
Come on, there aren't a lot of Nebraska-Michigan highlights out there
They have only played six times in history with Michigan leading 3-2 and one tie. I suppose I can put highlights from 2005 Alamo up, but it’s not nearly as heartbreaking as that Colorado game which is why I chose that clip. That’s just good stuff every time. Still, because you brought it up, here is what happened the last time the two teams met:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOlx47fS6J8
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by KennardHusker on Nov 16, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
That has to be the most punts I've ever seen in a single game hight video
Not saying anything other than, shit that’s a lot of punts.
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I feel like I should apologize
I had watched that video at work without sound… Hearing Bodies Hit the Floor in the background makes it infinitely worse. As for the punts, that was actually a really annoying game. Everything about it. They kept trying to say it made up for ‘97, but we all knew both teams weren’t all that great. Again, lots of apologies for the really annoying highlight video.
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by KennardHusker on Nov 17, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
god that Colorado game
God. Top five losses of my lifetime.
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by Graham Filler on Nov 16, 2011 5:02 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I have "hate Michigan" fatigue...
Michigan fan here. For some reason I’ve been feeling a ton of hate lately. People aren’t holding back. Here’s why, I think:
1. LOTS of hate built up during the years Michigan was pretty good (but always seemed a little bit lucky).
2. The losing during the Rich Rod years gave an opportunity for MSU fans, ND fans (and everyone else) to really vent their hate.
3. Now with coach Hoke in place, there is a lingering fear among rival fan-bases that Michigan may edge its way back to being the same pretty-good-and-very-lucky team that it used to be, so….
4. It’s time to really crank up the hate while the UM fans are still not able to fire back by pointing at the scoreboard.
Anyway, I’ve been wearing my Tiger’s cap lately because of all the hateful looks and comments triggered by the M hat around town. I can’t wait to get back to the Lloyd days!
by PCS on Nov 16, 2011 7:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Just gotta put up with it
Haters gonna hate. I can understand the MSU guys and the tOSU guys hating, but what confuses me are the Wisconsin, Penn State, and Nebraska guys. I know when I was at Purdue I honestly didn’t care about Michigan; we beat them half the time in football and all the time in basketball. I always hated Ohio State the most (not as much as IU), still do hate them because there’s something fundamentally wrong when you’re good at football and basketball. Maybe Michigan ruined some potentially special season for the non-rivals in the past, but it would be healthy for those people to get over it at some point.
Srsly.
/sigh
1. It wasn’t because Michigan was good. It was because they wouldn’t shut up about every iota of success
2. The Rich Rod years gave us a reason to throw it back in your face after the countless years beforehand
3. Coach Hoke is doing well, but worried? No. Sure, they’ll become better but I think people from many fanbases want that. Who doesn’t want a really competitive conference?
4. If Michigan fans would just leave well alone, and not justify EVERYTHING with things out of their hands (luck, officiating, the sun in their eyes, etc) then you’d get more sympathy when you’re down. There is a reason for the ongoing joke “Michigan never loses”
BONUS COUNTERPOINT: The UM fanbase and Detroit media were lining up outside Lloyd’s house with torches and pitchforks calling for his head, saying he left ‘nothing in the cupboard’, and heralding Rich Rod as the savior of the UM brand. After that fiasco, and with the addition of Hoke, everyone is making Lloyd out as a saint. What is wrong with your fanbase? At least everyone at MSU can undoubtably agree JLS and Bobby Williams were TERRIBLE coaches.
by SpartyFever on Nov 17, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I kinda liked JL......voiyhepoiahjngpoiuyp8irbgpouijnhg9uaergf
Dammit I can’t even type that without my hands convulsing
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I've never heard
anyone say Carr was a saint. Really I’ve only heard people become worried with if Hoke is actually in control, or is he a Carr puppet. This honoring Carr thing this weekend, is not helping the situation, but I litewrally haven’t heard one person excited about it.
valid points
I can see why people hate Michigan. Heck, even as a Michigan alum, Michigan fans often get on my nerves (though we’ve all been taken down several pegs lately). But all the hate just gets tiring after awhile. I mean, isn’t that why we have tOSU in this conference? You’re all supposed to hate them.
As an MSU fan, you can’t be happy to see Rich Rod gone. So Hoke and the improved defense have to be just a little bit worrying, no? Also, Michigan’s in-state recruiting under Hoke has been way better. That was the basis for my comment no. 4.
I guess you didn't read any of the excerpts from "Three and Out" in the Detroit News
Definitely does not paint Lloyd Carr in a good light. The book was written by a Michigan fan.
by lonewolf371 on Nov 17, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Martinez is the better passer.
Robinson’s mechanics look better, but he simply can’t throw the ball. On the other hand Taylor has proven himself a very competent passer the past two weeks.
For some weird reason
…I’ve never really hated Michigan. I can’t explain it. One of the things that excited me the most about our entry into the conference was when I saw the divisional alignments and realized we’d play the Wolverines every year.
That’s not to say I can’t or won’t cultivate some bitterness towards **"that team up north." We’ll see how I feel when, say, a couple years down the road they deal us our first loss or they knock us out of the drivers seat for the CCG. Until then, I’m looking forward to playing you guys annually.
**For long time B1G aficionados, did I get it right? Is it derisively referred to as “that team up north”?
that or I think tSUN as well
That state up north
by Fake Pelini on Nov 16, 2011 8:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
tSUN, but I'm pretty sure it's that school up north
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by KennardHusker on Nov 17, 2011 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
And I'm pretty sure
that navy is a shade of blue.
by ChicagoHoosier on Nov 17, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
For some obvious reason
I’ve always hated Michigan. I still hate Michigan. I will always hate Michigan.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 16, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
As a Wisconsin fan?
I guess if it makes you happy. I know a grad student here from Wisconsin that wears a hat with the block M every once-in-awhile, mind you.
by lonewolf371 on Nov 16, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
Bravo
A reasonable post….a rarity at times in Huskerland. I can’t hate the Huskers, both of my sons are UN grads (but the wife is an “M” grad and is intense on her devotion to her Woverines). This promises to be a truly intense/yet fun rivalry. Both fanbases are loyal, but not crude or uncivil on gameday, looking forward to a great series. A sincere welcome to a proud team like the Huskers to the Big-Ten.
Nebraska would have destroyed Michigan that year...
Not even close. Vegas came out before the bowl games and said they would have listed Nebraska as a 7 point favorite. Then Nebraska demolished #3 Tennessee with Peyton Manning in his final game, Jamal Lewis, Al Wilson and other NFL players 42-17. Meanwhile Michigan needed a shady late call to barely beat a mediocre Washington St team 21-16. What could Charles Woodson even do in that game? guard Matt Davison? Who cares. He would be useless against the option and power runs. It would have been a a Nebraska blowout.
Woulda been a good game.
Michigan’s D was as good as any I’ve ever seen in college football. I remember when we played them, you could tell by like middle of the 2nd Q that they just weren’t gonna let us score.
And Washington State was a pretty damn good team that year (10-2 including the Rose Bowl loss).
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Peyton Manning did what any good Tennessee QB does.
he found a way to win the game…for Florida.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 18, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
sure....
Considering the unpredicability of college football, you write like someone who may need to apply /insert a new corn cob…you can guess where. BTW, WSU was 10-1 coming into that game out of that “lackluster” little conference called the PAC 10. Hmmm, considering UN’s performance against the PAC 10 in recent years I would be a little more circumspect in my opinions.
This
and the fact that they say GO BLUE even though that is most definitely navy on their uniforms.
And the fact that my grandmother who has painted all of her life consistently points out that the yellow on their uniforms are not the color maize. And Grandma knows best.
Under no circumstances will I root for Michigan, even if a UM win helps my team.
I also can’t bring myself to support the Huskers.
So, I’m just gonna sit back and not watch this game out of massive indifference, and hope both quarterbacks attempt to out-armpunt each other to the tune of like 14 combined INTs.
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It's funny how many Spartan fans are saying this
I really don’t have quite the hatred that B1G fans have built up over the years, but I enjoy watching it unfold. As for the interceptions, Martinez has actually only thrown INTs in 4 games. While that still accounts for 7 INTs, he’s not the mistake-prone guy everyone thinks he is. Unfortunately, the most attention he got was @ Wisconsin where he threw 3 picks in ten minutes or so… I’m not saying he’s the best QB ever, but he’s not the worst QB ever either.
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by KennardHusker on Nov 17, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
T Mart doesn't have much to worry about this week...
UM’s defensive backs are not what anyone would call “good”
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When your mad...
You will never give anyone credit. Sad, just sad.
Who's mad? I'm happy when my team is in 1st place.
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Nope - we're a game ahead of NEB
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17 total ints - unlikely.
However, I would bet on 3 picks by Martinez and 4 fumbles by Robinson.
by Fake Pelini on Nov 17, 2011 10:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
ROTATE YOUR PICTURE FOR GOD'S SAKE
Or is that something that is not taught at MSU….similar to the lack of instruction in sportsmanship…
I'm not sure if this proves anything
but I looked it up so I’m going to share it.
Michigan’s opponents that went 0-6 in bowls, WL record, and the final AP rankings:
- 9-3 Penn State lost to #4 10-2 Florida
- 10-3 Ohio State lost to #3 11-1 Florida State
unranked 8-5 Wisconsin lost to #10 10-2 Georgia
unranked 7-5 Iowa lost to #14 8-3 Arizona State
unranked 7-5 Michigan State lost to #18 8-4 Washington
unrankied 7-6 Notre Dame lost to #13 9-3 LSU
Nebraska’s opponents that went 2-2 in bowls:
- 11-1 Kansas State beat #21 9-4 Syracuse
- 8-4 Washington beat 7-5 Michigan State
- 9-4 Texas A&M lost to #5 10-2 UCLA
- 7-5 Missouri lost to #17 11-2 Colorado State
Michigan’s opponents had more difficult bowl match-ups. Whatever that’s worth.
missed rankings
- K State
- Washington
- Texas A&M
- Missouri
Wow.
You hate Michigan. This fact coupled with your inexplicable loss to Northwestern makes you an official Big 10 team. Congratulations.
by DecentChance on Nov 17, 2011 10:50 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Remembers Noah Herron.
/cries.
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-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Hmmm...
Maybe the better question is: Would K State have beaten Michigan that year?
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