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Mid-Season Division Arguments: Breaking Down the Legends Contenders

What a mess...

Four weeks ago, everybody assumed the conference was figured out. Wisconsin was the best team, there were a lot of ‘second-tier’ teams who would fight for the chance to get beat by Wisconsin, and then everyone else was just kind of there. Now? Well, now we have a mess on our hands. Mathematically speaking, we have five teams in the Legends and three teams in the Leaders that can still win the division, Wisconsin looks like they will struggle just to get to Indianapolis, and there is no clear cut conference best. Consider the transitive property:

Wisconsin > Nebraska > Ohio State/MSU > Wisconsin

To best make sense of all this mess, we here at OTE will be breaking down the contenders from each division and then compile what the eliminated teams can do as a spoiler. This is the first of a three part series, so if your team isn’t here, it probably means they are coming. We asked each writer to answer the following questions:

  1. Why will your team be going to Indianapolis?
  2. Why will your team be watching the CCG from the living room?
  3. What should we probably expect to happen?

So in alphabetical order, the Legends Contenders (Mathematically):

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Iowa - BamaHawkeye

1) Why will your team be going to Indianapolis?

Iowa’s going to Indianapolis because it has an NFL-style coach who knows how to handle NFL-style pressures. He knows that the Northwestern game was twice as important as the Penn State game. He knew that a win over Minnesota wasn’t necessary. These next four games…here’s where the rubber meets the road. He knows that, and Iowa will be prepared to win each of them. Sweep, and Iowa will wear black jerseys in Nap Town come early December.

As to how they’ll pull off that sweep, here you go…the Hawkeyes actually fare better against spread teams that are run-heavy instead of spread teams that are pass-heavy. The Hawks held Denard Robinson pretty well in check last year. It was the reappearance of Tate Forcier that caused them fourth quarter troubles. With the game in Kinnick, Iowa can pull it out. Sparty looked offensively lost last week. If they bring the same performance to Kinnick, a place where they haven’t won since the 1980s, Iowa can knock out the glove state in an eight day span.

After that, Iowa travels to Purdue. Yes, they’ll need to play a better fourth quarter than they have in their previous three road tests, but they shouldn’t be outmatched by Purdue. Win there, and it will all come down to a Black Friday in Lincoln. Maybe the Hawks have the game of their season. Maybe the Huskers are already thinking about Indianapolis. But Iowa cares more about this game than Nebraska does (a refreshing change), and they create a true rivalry by punking the Huskers in their own house.

2) Why will your team be watching the CCG from the living room?

Choose the Right Answer: 

a) Because the defense can’t stop the run

b) Because, despite plenty of opportunities, the offense hasn’t led a successful end-of-game two minute drill since October 2009

c) Because they will play three teams better than them

d) Because they will play two road games, and haven’t won one in twelve full months

e) Because they can’t hold a fourth quarter lead

f) Because the loss to Minnesota killed any margin for error that would have existed in West Lafayette

Did you pick the right answer? No, you can only pick one. No, "All of the Above" is not a choice. You have to pick the right answer. What do you mean that you think that there is more than one right answer?

3) What should we probably expect to happen?

I’m generally a guardedly optimistic person. That said, the loss to Minnesota really shook from me any hope that I had for this year’s squad. It wasn’t that it was a bad loss. It was the way that they lost. If Minnesota can pound the Iowa defense in the fourth quarter, what is Sparty going to do? Or Denard? Or Nebraska? If Iowa can’t win in Ames or Minneapolis, how will they fare in West Lafayette and Lincoln? Iowa loses to Michigan this week. They lose to Michigan State next week. They lose at Purdue the week that follows. They lose at Nebraska in the season-ender. That’s a 5-7 (2-6) season with a five game losing streak to end it. It is going to be a long hard off season in Iowa City.

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Michigan - Graham Filler

1) Why will your team be going to Indianapolis?

Michigan, if truly intent on going to Indianapolis, must continue two trends: 1) Offensive playcalling ingenuity and 2) surprisingly solid defensive play. Can they do it? I don’t doubt it. The offensive wrinkles (outside runs with Fitz Toussaint, misdirection plays with Denard Robinson) are the coaches’ attempts to spread defenses and allow Robinson to be a threat all over the field, not just in the pocket. Not only did the bye week help, but we see a Michigan coaching staff intent on adapting to its players strengths. Beat up by MSU in the interior, Michigan successfully attacked the outside against Purdue. The defense continues to create turnovers and pressure the quarterback (4 sacks v. the Boilermakers), something we haven’t seen since Brandon Graham was killing quarterbacks in 2009.

2) Why will your team be watching the CCG from the living room?

Michigan hasn’t played anyone yet. Teams they’ve beat:

Western Michigan (5-4)

ND (5-3)

EMU (5-3)

SDSU (4-3)

Mini (2-6)

NW (3-5)

Purdue (4-4)

On the surface, that’s not bad, but the B1G games were against the Patsies and now the real fun begins. Iowa City is not a fun place to play, no matter whether the Hawkeyes struggle. Illinois is slumping, but the Illini have scored 103 points against UM in the last two matchups, so let’s not call that a win yet. And Nebraska and OSU? They're so hot right now…  If UM gets out of those four games with a 2-2 record, I don’t think anyone would be surprised.

3) What should we probably expect to happen?

I predict 2-2, as Michigan ends the season 9-3 (5-3), two games behind division winner Michigan State. The schedule dictates an easy finish for the Spartans and until I actually see Michigan beat an OSU/Wisconsin/MSU/Nebraska type team, I don’t feel comfortable predicting UM in the B1G championship game. BTW, 9-3 is two games better than most predicted…and three games better than the 6-6 record I predicted.

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Michigan State - MSULaxer27

1) Why will your team be going to Indianapolis?

MSU is going to Indy because it has the best remaining schedule. MN, @ Iowa, IU, @NU. Granted the Spartans can't take any of these games for granted but I'll take that over the Huskers finishing kick of NU, @PSU, @UM, Iowa or UM's @Iowa, @ ILL, NU-L, OSU and Iowa's UM, MSU, @PU, @NU-L. Nobody in the B1G seems capable of winning on the road this year.

The three bottom feeders in the B1G are left on MSU's schedule (and the other remaining team just lost to one of the bottom feeders). There are no gimme games (at Kinnick!) but you really can't ask for a better slate to end the season.

Win at least three of the four and things will sort themselves out. The other three contenders (Iowa, UM and NU-L) all have each other left on the schedule. NU-L loses at PSU and UM. Iowa drops one to NU-L. UM drops two to Iowa and OSU. MSU gets the division. I refuse to consider MN's chances seriously.

2) Why will your team be watching the CCG from the living room?

NU-L really is that good and is finally clicking on all cylinders. They run the table and win the division. Or MSU just implodes due to the pantsing they received this past weekend.

3) What should we probably expect to happen?

Going to stick with my pre-season prediction (just that the conference loss comes elsewhere). MSU ends the Kinnick slide. All others drop at least one game. MSU is in the inaugural B1G championship game in Indy where they play PSU for the land grant trophy and whatever token Delaney and company have come up with to reward the B1G champs.

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Minnesota - JDMill

1) Why will your team be going to Indianapolis?

We're not, so let's just go ahead and put that out there. I suppose mathematically there's a chance the Gophers could still win this division (I refuse to call it the Leaders or the Legends division because frankly I'm not sure which one we're in), but I haven't explored it enough to know what it is because I don't believe it's realistic. I know we've got 4 games left against at least 2 teams that are very good (MSU & Wisky) and two teams that are dangerous, but are beatable (NWestern & the Fighting Zooks). We aren't going to Indy, but we can finish a tough season on an upswing.

2) Why will your team be watching the CCG from the living room?

Plain and simple, they haven't been good enough through the first part of the season and it would take the ultimate coaching job of all time for the Gophers to win out, get help from other teams, and somehow make Indy. This is a young inexperienced football team that played an emotional game in beating Iowa (again), and had to play their absolute best game of the season to beat Iowa (again) by a single point. It was an inspired performance, but it will be difficult to duplicate.

3) What should we probably expect to happen?

I honestly expect that the ceiling for the Gophers is to win two more games, those being NWestern and Illinois. Those two schools are wounded right now and could be ripe for the picking the final two weeks of the season. Having said that, my prediction would be one more win. I'm hopeful that the Gophers can build on what they did in beating Iowa (again) and be more competitive the rest of the season, but I don't think they've got the horses to beat an MSU or a Wisky at this point. 

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Nebraska - KennardHusker

1) Why will your team be going to Indianapolis?

The easiest explanation is that last Saturday was not a fluke. Nebraska has an explosive offense with a workhorse RB, and a QB who can’t throw pretty but has gotten the job done more than anyone would believe. While the schedule certainly isn’t the easiest, the matchups aren’t the worst. NW plays a spread offense and has no defense. Michigan has an explosive offense and better defense, but the blueprint on how to defend them is in since MSU. Penn State has the best defense in the conference, if not in the country, but that QB situation makes you wonder. Iowa is in the middle of their own dumpster fire of a season, and while that game will be close because Iowa plays up and down to competition, it’s looking better for Nebraska’s chances. Bottom line, Nebraska controls its own destiny, and it looks like they have a defense worth watching again.

2) Why will your team be watching the CCG from the living room?

For all the reasons I just listed. The schedule is nuts from here on out, and the back to back games @Michigan and @Penn State are looming large. Nothing like 216,000 screaming fans to introduce you to B1G stadiums, huh? There is an extremely good chance this ends poorly for Nebraska. Oh and there is still that picture of the Wisconsin game dancing in the back of Nebraska’s closet. Schedule + defense still learning + QB with propensity to throw the ball to the other team = Sitting at home.

3) What should we probably expect to happen?

I think MSU makes the CCG. Nebraska fans will skewer me for this point of view, but I do not see Nebraska coming out of this four game stretch without at least one loss. Conversely, I think MSU can sweep their remaining opponents. This all comes down to scheduling. MSU had to step up early, but now they can close late. Not a bad deal at all for them.  

Poll
Who wins the Legends?
Iowa
24 votes
Michigan
51 votes
Michigan State
239 votes
Minnesota
33 votes
Nebraska
146 votes

493 votes | Poll has closed

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We're in the Legends division

I can remember this because it’s the slightly less embarrassing one. I think of Legends I think of Abraham Lincoln, Captain America, and the guy who invented liquid cheese.

I think of Leaders and I think of helping old ladies cross the street (not that there’s anything wrong with that, you should totally help them).

by Gophermike on Nov 2, 2011 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Legends

I think of whoever decided to put cheese whiz on the philly cheesesteak

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by Graham Filler on Nov 2, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Because Lincoln and Captain America were never leaders.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Nov 2, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember it

Because the “Leaders and Best” are actually in the Legends division, and I remember the actual groupings of teams. I appreciate that the B1G denied Michigan that little bit of smugness.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Nov 2, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minnesota's improbable path to glory:

If Minnesota beats…
Michigan state
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois

If Iowa beats…
Michigan
Michigan State
Nebraska

If Purdue beats…
Iowa

If Michigan beats…
Nebraska

If Ohio State beats…
Michigan

If Illinois beats…
Michigan

If Penn State beats…
Nebraska

This isn’t the only one, but this gives you an idea of how while still technically possible, it’s not going to happen. Someone else at the RCMB came up with this in a thread similar to this post.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Nov 2, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I love it!

Somebody actually put the effort into how the Gophers could defy all odds and show up in the B1G Conference Championship Game. There HAD to be some hate-research involved, because it’s completely Sisyphean.

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Nov 2, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

This just made...

…the Iowa win even more awesome. Because despite a complete dumpster fire of a season (which is my preferred description) beating Iowa (again) means there is an actual mathematical chance that the Gophers could go to the CCG. Insane. Never happening, not in a million years. But insane and awesome.

by GoAUpher on Nov 2, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got to walk around Iowa City and Coralville yesterday wearing Gopher stuff.

The looks and comments I got have already made this season as perfect not only as it can be, but as perfect as it needs to be.

by Midnight Rambler on Nov 2, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The transitive property is: Wisconsin > Nebraska > MSU > Ohio State > Wisconsin

I know everyone went ahead ad completely forgot about Michigan State going to Columbus and mauling the Buckeyes’ offense into submission, but I think it’s time we brought that performance back into the limelight. Because it just might end up being the most impressive victory by any team on anyone else’s home turf through the course of the B1G regular season.

by cwel87 on Nov 2, 2011 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

and by mauling OSU's offense

You mean Joe Bauseman running their offense, right?

by Fake Pelini on Nov 3, 2011 12:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

They didn't put Bauserman in until late

And that was because OSU was sick of the MSU defense beating the hell out of Miller.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Nov 3, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surprised Nebraska gets written off so quick?!

I completely expect them to win out. Too many MSU fans on here.
Btw @MSULaxer: U really think Wisconsin is going to lose to PSU at home?

by BoilermakerNation on Nov 2, 2011 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I appreciate the love

The thing about Nebraska is that they’ve been a tale of two teams so far and have a much more difficult schedule coming up. Nebraska does absolutely control its own destiny, but to win out, they will have to go on the road to Michigan and bottle up a mobile quarterback for the first time in forever, and then will have to try and score points on what is arguably the best defense in the conference. Not to mention trap games in both NW and Iowa, the latter of which might be playing for their bowl life or the CCG depending on how things go. I think MSU’s situation just plays out better.

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by KennardHusker on Nov 2, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

KH - you got me on your good side with your Gonzo

bit last week but you’re really sending out a lot of ‘negative vibes’ (Kelly’s Heroes? Donald Surherland? Moriarty?) here that aren’t good. Yes, MSU has it pretty easy here in November but I seriously believe that N (as in the Huskers) will win out, taking wins at PSU & MICH, & meeting/beating PSU again in Indy, & playing in the Rose Bowl!

Where is that Go Big Red, man? This is going to end up being a great season! Wisconsin is history, not even visible anymore in the rear view mirror.

by MSS1960 on Nov 2, 2011 1:59 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

GO BIG RED!

Hey man, I’m hoping for the best! I really am. But I don’t know if we’re as good as we are or if we’re a mirage. If we pound NW this weekend defensively, I think we’re able to win out. I just have watched too much talent at Nebraska go bad. I admit, I’m more of a pessimist than optimist. However, I do love the encouragement. I predicted 3-1 down the stretch from the onset. I thought we’d lose two conference games overall at the beginning of the season. MSU scared me because the Wisconsin game scared me. We can beat Iowa and Michigan, and so long as our offense scores points, we beat PSU. Still, it’s not a foregone conclusion, right?

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by KennardHusker on Nov 2, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, this is just how I would prognosticate, not cheer

I promise I am a Hukser fan through and through. Still, I don’t know if I can legitimately say we’ll go undefeated with two road games at two of the largest, most intimidating stadiums in the nation against what will most likely be Top 15 teams. Oh, and Iowa is going to be amped out of their minds on Black Friday. I don’t care if they’ve lost every game up to then. They’re going to be a tough out.

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by KennardHusker on Nov 2, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Road wins are awfully tough in the B1G this year, and NEB still has a couple difficult ones left.

I’d wager money on NEB dropping a game. I would NOT put money on MSU winning out though – still scared of the trip to Iowa City.

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by Spartan D on Nov 2, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Raise your hands everyone who ever thought they might see this statement made on this site:
Too many MSU fans on here.

I was actually speechless.

At the risk of having to admit to a boiler (again) that I was wrong, I don’t know. Maybe. Sure. No matter who the teams, I don’t really want to see a rematch in the B1G championship game.

Too bad IU was eliminated, a MN/ IU game sure woulda been entertaining. Like watching a dog try to get peanut butter off it’s nose.

by MSULaxer27 on Nov 2, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's certainly possible that Nebraska wins out.

But @Penn State and @Michigan are, at best, two toss-ups. That’s a 1-in-4 chance even if you assume Northwestern and Iowa are automatic – and those two are the difficult games left for MSU.

One of my projects over at TOC is a pair of computer rating systems (one based solely on wins and losses, one using margin of victory) and using those to project the winners of the divisions. Depending on which system you believe, the odds are approximately either: MSU even, Nebraska 2-1, Michigan 5-1, Iowa 150-1 (no-margin) or: MSU 5-4, Nebraska 7-3, Michigan 3-1, Iowa 125-1 (margin-aware).

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by SpartanDan on Nov 3, 2011 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's all about margin for error...

Nebraska and Iowa may ‘control’ their destiny in the division, but one loss pretty much smacks them in the face. MSU is in the same boat, but with a much easier schedule. I love the Huskers and want to believe they can pull this season off, but it’s dicey to assume they can go 4-0 down the stretch.

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by KennardHusker on Nov 3, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I voted for Minnesota

because I know Iowa isn’t making it, and I’d love to see the pure chaos that would ensue if Minnesota went to the CCG.

by Jon Berg on Nov 2, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

FTFY
and I’d love to see the pure chaos that would ensue if for Minnesota went to get to the CCG.

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by KennardHusker on Nov 2, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the deal...

If MSU can’t go to Indy, my heart tells me to root for Minny (mainly because I fucking hate everyone else).

But, if Minny got to Indy, the B1G would essentially be the laughingstock of the entire country, with a demonstrably bad team playing in the title game.

What a dilemma!

"Everyone who drinks is not a poet. Maybe some of us drink because we're not poets." - Arthur Bach

by Spartan D on Nov 2, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody'd be laughing

If after winning the CCG, the Gophers went on and won their BCS game too….

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Nov 2, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

The one thing we can be sure of

is that we aren’t going to be bored watching this all play out. It has taken a considerably shorter time than I would have expected to become fully immersed in B1G football. I love the brand of football played in this conference. It’s a gut-check, every…single…week.

Kennard, I can’t fault you for taking MSU. We have four games ahead of us that could all be losses. I’m not projecting that, but we’re not suiting up against Appalachian State here. (Bad reference?)

Looking ahead is bad for players and coaches, but fans can do whatever we want. I’m looking at that Black Friday dust up with a wary eye. I can just envision Iowa taking out the frustrations this season has delivered them on the Huskers in Lincoln. Long way to go before that though. We could easily have dropped 2 out of 3 when they come to town by then.

The B1G. Who can figure it out this year? The one thing that seems clear is that this is not the top heavy conference Nebraska fans are used to. Every week holds a potential L.

by Nebula on Nov 2, 2011 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Key to beating Iowa

Wear Maroon and Gold. It’s their kryptonite.

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Nov 2, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember the stretch runs of Missouri, Kansas, K-State, and Colorado?

Yeah, not quite the same here…

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by KennardHusker on Nov 2, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sure do.

It used to seem somewhat daunting. Now I’m thinking about going to Ann Arbor vs. going to Boulder….it’s funny how quickly your opinion can change about the strength of a conference. The B1G is no gentle stroll.

by Nebula on Nov 2, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was that one time that KU dropped 70 on you....

….not that is has any relevance whatsoever, I just like trolling.

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by Spartan D on Nov 2, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a weird blip on the radar

/drinks
//poursanother
///passesoutwatchingreesingthrowanothertouchdown

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by KennardHusker on Nov 2, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't K-State do it once too?

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by Spartan D on Nov 2, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty much everyone has

but Kansas went to extreme heights and talent and now is a bottom feeder again. It was an absolutely bizarre thing to watch happen. Teams like Colorado K-State, and even Mizzou have been moderately successful otherwise.

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by KennardHusker on Nov 2, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

The name value may be higher now

but don’t forget at one point Colorado had Kordell Stewart, Michael Westbrook, and a heisman winning running back in Salaam. Yeah, it seems not so impressive to mark off Colorado or K-State on your record, but at different intervals each of those teams seemed to put together a wacky team that would sneak into the top 10.

by rzor on Nov 2, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't even need to watch.

Just a rec. We all know what’s coming.

by MNWildcat on Nov 2, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec rec reccity rec rec rec

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by Spartan D on Nov 2, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

A fan of neither team

Yet I’ll always remember where I was when I saw this go down. REC’d

by NotYourNormalHuskerfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Curious

I’d like to know from the traditional (non-Nebraska) B1G fans if, at this point in the season, if the new divisional play has made things better or worse in your opinion. Granted, fans of the teams no longer in the race may not give a flip, but for those that still are in it, is this year more interesting than years past? Or is it ‘bout the same, and you’d all feel the same way right now if UNL hadn’t come in and (using the same records…imperfect comparison) Penn St. was at the top of the league?

by Wolvie on Nov 2, 2011 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

It's always better with a true championship game

Last year was a perfect example: the conference title was a three-way tie. Wisconsin got to go to the Rose Bowl to face a good, not great TCU team because they lost early (to MSU), Ohio State got to go to a BCS bowl because they cheated like a bunch of little shits and are OSU, and Michigan State got to be the sacrificial lamb to an angry, hellbent Alabama team that wasn’t losing to anyone in the country on New Year’s Day.

Does it seem like I’m still bitter? That’d be because I am. A championship game fixes that bullsh*t.

by cwel87 on Nov 2, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly. I want a 'true' champion, not the poll voters deciding who goes to the Rose Bowl.

And, the division races are kinda fun.

"Everyone who drinks is not a poet. Maybe some of us drink because we're not poets." - Arthur Bach

by Spartan D on Nov 2, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except for having to refer to their names, I agree with this

They should just have a cycle where each school gets to have their division named after one famous alumnus or contributor for a year. Every six years, the list rotates back to where it started, and the schools get to change their recognized alumnus.

For example: the Gerald Ford Memorial Division vs. the Joe Paterno Memorial Division. It’s still stupid, but nothing’s as dumb as this Legends vs. Leaders! crap.

by cwel87 on Nov 2, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The James Caan division has a nice ring to it.

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by Spartan D on Nov 3, 2011 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that the winner of the division should get to name it

It would be an awesome way to memorialize a team’s victory for the year, and probably incentivize teams to knock them off the next year.

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by KennardHusker on Nov 3, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

But who, exactly?

(play along as if Nebraska wins the Division)
The AD? We’ll play in the Teammates Division
The Coach? We’ll play in the I Don’t Have Time For This Division
The Chancellor? We’ll play in the What Do You Mean The AAU Won’t Answer My Call Division
The Fans? We’ll play in the 5NATIONALCHAMPIONSHIPSWOOO! Division ;-)

by Wolvie on Nov 3, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Clearly, the naming would go down to a vote on ESPN message boards

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by Spartan D on Nov 3, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

So it'd be...

…the lyrics to some random song?

People bitching about their avatar?

by Chadnudj on Nov 3, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

it’d be the “Big Whatever is slooooooooow” division

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Nov 5, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

This new set-up is great.

We are watching what is easily the best conference race in the country.

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Nov 2, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone that thinks that MSU will win all the rest of the games

does not know Sparty. Sparty will be Sparty and implode.

So I tried the Barbasol and Rotel dip and I was very dissapointed!

by Amonra on Nov 2, 2011 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone that thinks Nebraska will win all the rest of the games

Does not know Nebraska. The Big 12 is a joke and the Big Ten will wear them down and own them in their final 4 games.

There. I just made as much sense (and as many quality points) as you did.

by cwel87 on Nov 2, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except that I never said Nebraska would win out

Nice try though.

So I tried the Barbasol and Rotel dip and I was very dissapointed!

by Amonra on Nov 2, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coach D is 7-3 in November.

And 3-0 last year.

Losses to #18 Michigan (in that fluke Mallet to Hart 3rd down for 14 yards and a first fumble game), #8 @PSU (Crushed.), and #9 PSU (Crushed).

Do you see a top 20 team left on MSU’s schedule in November?

by Baylan on Nov 2, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

But, they're the Spartans!

They ALWAYS do this, ALL THE TIME!

/e$pn’d

by cwel87 on Nov 3, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm also a Husker fan

that voted MSU. I feel pretty good going into the Penn State game. The Michigan game is a whole other animal. They just seem purpose-built to cause the Blackshirt defense trouble.

by rzor on Nov 2, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Just love this interesting little tidbit

Nebraska is (16-5-1) against SEC.
Nebraska is (2-0) against Florida.

Nebraska is (2-3) against Alabama

Nebraska is (5-0-1) against LSU

Nebraska is (2-0) against Tennessee

Nebraska is (1-0) against Mississippi St

Nebraska never played Vandy.

Boise St is (0-4) against SEC

by Omahusker on Nov 3, 2011 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd for truth

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Nov 3, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

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