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Former Michigan Man Rich Rodriguez was named as the new head football coach at the University of Arizona. I'm betting that he has them in the Pac-12 title game within three years.

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How are the Pac-12 divisions set up?

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by Seer on Nov 21, 2011 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

North: Washington, WSU, Oregon, OSU, Cal, Stanford

South: Arizona, ASU, USC, UCLA, Colorado, Utah

by Aphilfan on Nov 21, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet he doesn't

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by Ted Glover on Nov 21, 2011 9:04 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I’ll reserve judgement until I see who he hires for his defensive staff.

by GCS on Nov 21, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Really

I’d say it depends how badly the scholarship reductions hurt USC. If they’re 90% of USC, then it doesn’t matter what anyone else in the south does, the Trojans are going to win the division anyway, barring once-in-a-generation type teams.

by drothgery on Nov 21, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

THIS

You win with people (not named Joe Bauserman)

by BuckeyeSki on Nov 22, 2011 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Seriously, though

Barkley was absolutely invincible through three and a half quarters of that Oregon game. If he hadn’t been almost perfect, U$C does NOT win in Autzen.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 22, 2011 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

/wins south anyway

Seriously, the P12 South is effectively the equivalent of setting up a division of Ohio State, Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana, Minnesota, and Illinois.

by drothgery on Nov 22, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

/GERG'd

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Nov 22, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Look at what he'll be competing against

USC hasn’t started their scholarship penalty yet.
UCLA, Colorado and AZ State are a mess.
That leaves Utah.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Nov 22, 2011 5:30 AM CST up reply actions  

This is probably his greatest advantage

and he shouldn’t have to deal with weather

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by chitownhawkeye on Nov 22, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

or football literate fans

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by BentNotBroken on Nov 22, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

He'll be ok unless.....

Tressel decides to coach in that conference.

by biggy84 on Nov 22, 2011 12:46 AM CST reply actions  

If he can't win at a school with resources like Michigan....

How is he going to fare any better at Arizona?

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by PurdueMatt on Nov 22, 2011 7:31 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, but The Pac isn't exactly the B1G

The Pac 12 is not that great, and the division alignment isn’t terrible for him. He just needs to knock off USC once in a while. RichRod can win with his system, so long as he can get a decent defense into place, or since this is the Pac 12, he can forget defense and just work on scoring a million points. Great move on his part.

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by KennardHusker on Nov 22, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, he won pretty big at West Virginia somehow. The question is whether or not he figures out what the differences were between he two coaching stints that caused such drastically different results.

by GCS on Nov 22, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

His defesnses weren't that bad at WVU

Except for 2006, when everyone in the Big East had a good offense except us (Syracuse).

by drothgery on Nov 22, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

2005-2007 it was

again, except for us; WVU, Louisville, and Rutgers were really good; Pitt, Cinci, USF, and UConn were respectable.

by drothgery on Nov 22, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

This is why D1 needs a playoff. Inter-conference outcomes can only tell so much

a postseason of D1 football madness would be crazy! especially if Big East and B1G got to host playoff games… sorry SEC it gets cold up here, bundle up. Okie State forgot to versus ISU

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by BentNotBroken on Nov 22, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Not any time soon

Can’t afford to replace it; love having 30,000 fans for big basketball games; and Syracuse weather in the fall really sucks.

by drothgery on Nov 22, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks!

I had read before that the Carrier Dome did not have luxury boxes etc to be viable anymore.

by biggy84 on Nov 23, 2011 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm guessing greg robinson isn't making the move to tuscon

Also, ‘zona, athletically, has more in common with west virginia, than michigan, so I think he’ll be quite successful.

The scrutiny will be more reasonable, arizona doesn’t have an established culture that he doesn’t fit in with (I always got the impression that the u. of michigan people thought of him as a mercenary, not one of their own), and there won’t be a distracting lawsuit involving his last school making headlines.

by Joe Hamilton's Chauffeur on Nov 22, 2011 9:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought UM saw him as a hick.

by txhawkeye on Nov 22, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought UM saw him as a hick.

by txhawkeye on Nov 22, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Post #2 was SBNs fault. Shockingly, I do know how to sort of work these things.

by txhawkeye on Nov 22, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t think that he was able to deploy all the Michigan resources. Some of it was him being tone-deaf, some of it was part of Michigan wasn’t accepting of him.

by rogerja on Nov 22, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Scholarship penalty doesn't really matter

I doubt most D-1 teams even fill all of their scholarships at one time due to attrition.

by lonewolf371 on Nov 22, 2011 8:02 AM CST reply actions  

Of course it matters.

Do you think attrition magically stops for USC at the same time they face major scholarship reductions? The pain of scholarship penalties is that you lose the margin of error that allows for attrition.

by GoAUpher on Nov 22, 2011 9:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Teams in the Big Ten may leave a schollie or 2 for a derserving walk on or to bank for a future recruiting class, but that’s the Big Ten. Down south, they fill ‘em all up, then cut those who don’t perform to expectations and give it to someone else the next year.

So, basically a program would be screwed if it didn’t use most or all available schollies.

by rogerja on Nov 22, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

What!? Tate Forcier transferring out of SJ State??

by Brutus89 on Nov 22, 2011 10:38 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Don't forget

‘Zona has never played in a Rose Bowl in some 30+ yrs of being in the PAC… This isn’t a rough patch, but a culture of loosing that RichRod is walking into. And for those expecting a quick turnaround we all know how well RichRod did in adjusting his scheme to the existing square pegs at Michigan. USC will be bowl eligable next year and even 5 players short will be deeper than ‘Zona has today. I think there is not an insignifcant possibility that Bob Davie will have New Mexico (’Zona non-con rival) to a bowl game before RichRod has ’Zona.

by cokolman on Nov 22, 2011 10:41 PM CST reply actions  

This

Arizona is not a football school, but a basketball one. It has been for decades. There simply isn’t the support for the football program there that there is at places like Michigan or West Virginia, and RichRod will have to adjust to that.

Rodriguez may be successful in the PAC 12, but it’s going to require a lot of effort. It’s not like everyone out there is going to lay down for him.

by buckyor on Nov 23, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it would be funny

if RichRod got Arizona to the Rose Bowl and beat…wait for it…Michigan.

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by Ted Glover on Nov 22, 2011 11:25 PM CST reply actions  

Saw RichRod's presser at 'Zona

He appears to have learned a lot from his humbling experience at Michigan. I would love to see him beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl.

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by PurdueMatt on Nov 23, 2011 7:18 AM CST reply actions  

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