Penn State In On Georgia's Mark Richt?
by Ted Glover on Dec 15, 2011 7:46 PM CST
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Hearing strong info that Mark Richt may be emerging as a serious candidate for the Penn State job.
— Sekrah Sports (@sekrah) December 15, 2011
I'll admit that up until a week ago I had never heard of this Sekrah Sports, and I'm not sure how accurate this guy/gal/anonymous Twitter account is, but I will say Sekrah was right about one thing, and had it about 24 hours before everyone else, as I recall.
When former 4 star recruit and Penn State commit DT Tommy Schutt said he was going to re-open his recruitment and visit Ohio State, Sekrah called Schutt to OSU long before it was made official.
I am ALL ABOUT wild Internet speculation, and if there is any truth to this rumor, all I can say is 'well done, PSU'. Dan Mullen had been rumored earlier this month, but signed an extension to stay at Mississippi State, and quite frankly, the coaching search at Happy Valley seems to have been stuck in low gear since then.
Richt seemed to be on the hot seat last year, as Georgia floundered to 8-5 in 2010, 6-7 last year, and opened up 0-2 this season. But Richt righted the ship and the Bulldogs ripped off 10 straight wins and won the SEC East, and became the sacrifical lamb to LSU in the SEC Championship game.
It's also being bandied about that Richt is reaching out to PSU, which would be...odd. He has no ties to the school, has spent almost his entire coaching career in the South, and although he's from Nebraska, that was pre-B1G days, so he has no real ties to the conference. That said, PSU is still a plum job, he has been at Georgia since 2001, and Sandusky scandal/JoePa firing aside, it's a place that a lot of people would give a right arm to coach at.
This would be a home run for Happy Valley if it comes to fruition.
Discuss.
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This could be a win/win for Marc Richt
Correct me if im wrong Penn Staters but wouldnt Richt own the state in recruiting?
He’d also be free from Oversigning. Look up Richt on Oversigning.com
by LincolnParkWildcat on Dec 15, 2011 8:11 PM CST reply actions
Never said it was from out of nowhere
I’m saying this person called him to OSU long before everyone else.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
No you didn't say that...but that wasn't my point
Point is “calling Schutt” prior to everyone else doesn’t mean this guy is “in the know” if you followed Schutt’s recruitment.
But who cares…Richt would be a great hire so I hope he is right!!!
OSU was 4th, minimum
He was going to ND or Michigan, but they filled up their DT spots, only then did he verbal to PSU. Then the whole child rape thing happened.
With all due respect (seriously) to Penn St, Mark (with a "k") Richt is not going to College Station..
….the coaching rumors run rampant at this time of year but this is one of the wildest…for many reasons. Despite the “hot seat” talk that goes on down here from time to time, Richt is firmly entrenched at UGA. Lots of young talent on the team and he seems to have righted the ship from the 3 previous campaigns.
Probably like at Penn St, the fans in Georgia expect you to go at least 10-2 every year….anything less is seen as failure….which is unrealistic…but hey! this is college football fanaticism…the very antithesis of realism.
Just a footnote….yes, Richt was born in Omaha but moved to Colorado soon after. Played his college ball at Miami (Florida). He has no ties to the Midwest. I don’t see him going there or PSU seriously being interested in him.
Good luck to you guys. It has been one crazy, difficult year for you.
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1
With all due respect to Vietnam Dog, why would Penn State care if Richt went
to a school in Texas that already hired a new coach?
Not sure what the reference is to (Texas A&M?) ...
….and I am sure PSU wouldn’t care.
I meant no disrespect of PSU ..just saying this particular rumor is just that
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1
My bad I knew that..
…you got me…..State College it is!
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1
You said College Station in your first response
and that is where Texas A and M is located.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
I don't see this as a slam dunk for Penn State at all.
Richt had a solid team this year, but he also played in a pretty weak division (SEC East). He is also a bit in your face with all the God stuff. That plays well South of the Mason Dixon Line, but in Big Ten country people expect a little old school Protestant restraint.
Now, SEC fanbases aren’t exactly rational. But every Georgia fan I’ve ever met thinks Richt’s best years are behind him, and that he doesn’t have the edge he once did. Now, I have no idea if that is true. But it at least has to be possible.
I think a lot of the feelings Georgia fans have of Richt
is due to the fact he’s been there forever. Maybe everyone involved needs a fresh start? Just speculating.
And was Richt mentioned for the Gopher job last year? I remember a lot of names being bandied about, but not sure if his name was a serious one or just Internet rumormongering…kind of like this is, heh heh.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
It's the old 'what have you done for me lately' syndrome...
…..seen a lot of coaching changes …they don’t always work out…to UGA fans I say ‘be careful what you ask for’
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1
This.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I don't remember there being much Gopher related speculation about Richt.
But there was rampant speculation about at least 20 coaches, so it is hard to remember.
I remember that the guys I wanted were Dan Mullen, Mike Bellotti, and Mike Leach (although to be fair, unlike those other guys, Leach actually wanted the Minnesota job, and spent a couple weeks on the radio openly campaigning for it).
I was also relieved Michigan was ‘dumb’ enough to hire Brady Hoke. HOke had been rumored for the Gopher gig, but I was relieved that we dodged that bullet.
So, clearly I was hallucinating throughout much of this time period without even realizing it. It’s entirely possible I blacked out speculation about Richt.
Of note
Richt is currently in negotiations for a contract extension with UG. His agent might be putting out rumors to drive up his asking price.
Oh great, go out and hire a guy who has a specialty of losing to Urban Meyer
I swear I’ll run my head through a wall if we hire Richt. Doesn’t matter though, he <3’s Georgia and he’s not leaving.
Give me a guy like Cristobal over Richt. Hiring Richt is admitting you’re cool with 2nd place in the Leaders Division.
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Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 15, 2011 9:07 PM CST reply actions
You should be cool with that anyways
or at least make peace with it. It’s going to happen an awful lot
You win with people (not named Joe Bauserman)
by BuckeyeSki on Dec 16, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We'll be 2nd in the penalties race, at least
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 16, 2011 10:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah couldn't be...AND SHUGARTS JUMPS EARLY AGAIN!
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Dec 16, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
I've got Wisky 2nd
You can battle it out with Illinois for 3rd.
You win with people (not named Joe Bauserman)
by BuckeyeSki on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
dude subject line
large picture = subject line clicky for easier reading through
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Dec 16, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
the bannin and the barrin
..the bannin and the barrin
HELP IS ON THE WAY
~Banned at ATO since June 3rd, 2011, 2ish PM PST
by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Richt and damn near everyone else
played second fiddle to Meyer – so what is your point?
To not hire Richt and hire someone who doesn't play second fiddle
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Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 16, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Is money an issue?
It seems like espin (horribly unreliable), or some other tabloid media type, said that the university wouldn’t spend a ton of money in light of legal costs etc. Is there any validity to that?
I doubt money is an issue
At first I thought it might be, but then I gave it 3 extra seconds of thought. Thanks to donors, and one in particular, we’re dropping millions on hockey. Thanks to donors, we have Cael Sanderson as a wrestling coach. When it comes to the cash cow that is football, wallets will be opened to assist in the search if needed. I don’t care for that at all, but I guess it is what it is.
I simply don’t want Richt. Don’t like his body of work.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
It'll be interesting to see
Because of Paterno, PSU was able to control its spending on the football side of things. They’re going to have to open up the taps for a coach (you can’t expect to keep paying 500k or whatever Paterno was making) and, perhaps more importantly, assistant coaches. The SEC started this arms race with near-million dollar assistants, UM brought this to the Big 10 with Borges and Mattison, OSU seems to be ready to double down on Meyer’s staff.
So, for a name coach, you’ll be looking at 750k minimum for a base salary, plus another million in reachable incentives (3-3.5 total, but that can come from other areas), plus another million, minimum, tied up on your coordinators. So, i’d guess, conservatively, PSU will have to double what it spends on it’s staff, likely triple.
They’ve got the money to do it, but it will take a shift in thinking for it to happen. If they don’t go that route, they’ll keep Bradley for peanuts, or try and bring in an up-and-comer for undermarket value.
Also, the coaching search isn't stuck in low gear, we're just not stupid about searches
Literally nobody knows what’s going on. There are only two people who know who’s being interviewed. Penn State is keeping it quite because we don’t want to get publicly refuted because a coach can’t just go out and say “Fuck it, I’m interviewing for a better job. Sorry kiddo’s, but I might leave soon”
This is more air tight than nobody in the US knowing about the thousands of aliens that are among us right now. But really, it’s kept quite because Penn State isn’t incompetent like Arizona State
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Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 15, 2011 9:11 PM CST reply actions
I'm offended that you would bring
reason and level headed logic into what PSU is doing as opposed to joining in our wild, rampant, and probably baseless speculation. :)
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
You sound far too much like ESPN right now...
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Glad our PSU brethren have officially gotten onto the
ESPiN hate train.
by NC_Buckeye on Dec 16, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Forget Fuck Michigan
Fuck ESPN
or both
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Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 16, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
sammich time?
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Dec 16, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Speculation is more fun
but on the other hand, I stop in at BSD once or twice a week, and most there are in denial about the temporary Chernobyl that Happy Valley had become.
Times will be pretty bad before they get better. Takes awhile for the stink to clear even after the manure is shoveled out.
Paul -
Go Sparty! Go Bucks!
Well, there was a plane used by PSU sitting in the Cedar Rapids airport for a few days last week
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
#KOK4PSU
"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney
by ClaybornSmash on Dec 16, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
#Bradley4IoaDC
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Dec 16, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Haha, sorry if that sounded malicious
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 16, 2011 10:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
This would make no sense
UGA is a better job than Penn State. The state of GA has much more elite talent (not to mention the fact that it borders Florida). UGA has a ton of money, & it doesn’t have a horrible scandal to deal with. This isn’t happening.
1UGA is a better job than Penn State. 2The state of GA has much more elite talent (not to mention the fact that it borders Florida). 3 UGA has a ton of money, & it doesn’t have a horrible scandal to deal with. 4 This isn’t happening.
1. Wrong. No offense, but UGA is a second tier program in its own conference. With a new coach, Penn State is a first tier program in the NCAA. This isn’t an insult, but PSU is a top-10 program, UGA is a top-20. Not bad, but take out the Herschel Walker years, and UGA is nothing more than a longer-term version of Wisconsin.
2. Correct, but a good coach can recruit. See Tressel and what Meyer has already done at OSU. Also consider that PSU is THE team in the NE. UGA’s talent level is not significantly greater than the entire northeastern seaboard, plus the reach into the mid-Atlantic that PSU will likely have again with a coach willing to actually recruit. MD, VA, NJ push PSU’s “territory” to just about equal.
3a. PSU can put far more money into this program than it has, and it still has equal money and facilities to UGA. Consider that – without even trying since like 1999, PSU is on par with UGA.
3b. This is not going to matter to recruits. Facts will come out, this will go away as a “PSU” crime.
4. I hope you’re right.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Perspective
I am a long time football fan who has lived all over the eastern half of the country.
You are dreaming, on 1 and 3. On 2, well, there is talent in a lot of places and recruits cross borders.
On 4, I think Mark Richt is more likely to quit coaching than go to Penn State.
Paul -
Go Sparty! Go Bucks!
A rebuttal from a UGA fan...
First, pardon any misspellings as I’m on my cell phone as I type this. They will happen and as a UGA Grady College of Journalism major, it’ll bother me way more than you guys.
Secondly, let’s look at your points and see where the inconsistencies are, respectively of course:
1) UGA is currently a second-tier program, but that’s part of the cycle of college athletics. In the early 2000s, we were the most consistent top program in the SEC, after Florida took its “Zook High Dive” from 2002-2004. Its effects we’re felt the first year of Meyer’s era as well, and didn’t regain its national prominence until 2006. LSU won a championship in 2003, but if we’re measuring by championships, Georgia is only separated by PSU by a small number of years in the early 80s. Since then, UGA has been conference champion more often and won more games than PSU over the past decade. You’re right, to an extent, in your view, but I’d argue PSU is in the same boat as well. So that’s a wash.
2) Your point regarding recruiting is spot on. In an area like Pennsylvania, locking up the borders doesn’t do squat, but I wouldn’t ignore that Ohio is good for football talent as well. There’s a reason Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin and others take talent from there. A good coach can overcome that and get his fair share. He just has to do it with a broader scope.
3) Money is almost equal between the two schools. UGA is more profitable, but BARELY, meaning that if PSU wanted to put more money into its athletics, since the profit margins are so close, UGA could too. Another wash. http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/06/20/which-football-and-basketball-programs-produce-the-largest-profits/ for proof.
4) I’m treating this as its own point because t’s where we disagree most. PSU’s “problem” is TERRIBLE from a national perspective. You guys are worse than damaged goods. In fact, I’d argue that Bradley will be your next coach because until ALL of the facts come out, no one wants to jump in that mess. There’s a reason you’ve barely sold a fraction of your bowl allotment and that you were lucky to get a bowl anyway. This isn’t any of the current olayers’ fault, but you’re bad business right now. If given the chance, Mullen jumps all over PSU last year, but right now, no coach is taking that gamble, especially with the NCAA snooping around to see if they can get in on it. People will interview, but they’re going the Bob Stoops route and getting extensions for talking. Sorry, but that’s the hard truth.
5) But the end all be all is, Richt isn’t going anywhere. Some fans are still disgruntled, yes, but even if you throw STUPID money at Richt, he’s staying put.
Love the debate though. Thanks!
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Revenue
Profit may not be far off from each other, but Penn State has way more revenue than Georgia. They could simply re-organize costs in other areas and put out a larger contract (of course that depends on whether people keep going to the games after this mess).
PSU has much greater resources than UGa
Larger alumni base. Greater television exposure. Bigger national brand. Despite Georgia being founded 70 years prior to Penn State, PSU’s endowment is three times the size of Georgia’s ($1.5 bil versus $500 mil).
Also, don’t put too much stock into profit margin of athletic departments. The accountants in each department do things differently.
Georgia is a great program, and one of the few that doesn’t oversign in the SEC. If these rumors are true, I would think it was more to do with the fact that perhaps Richt – like Urban Meyer – is dissatisfied with the state of affairs down there. Georgia also has higher academic standards (academically, it’s much more of a B1G school than an SEC school) which put it at a distinct disadvantage with the SEC West schools.
I think the next person that walks into Penn State is walking into a gold mine. The next recruiting hot-bed 5-10 years from now is going to be the greater NYC area, and State College is only four hours from there. Youth football has grown exponentially in the urban areas inside and around NYC, and stud athletes that would usually play basketball now have access to football leagues, which were seemingly non-existant (or unaffordable) even 15 years ago.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
PSU has always put a focus on the Greater NY area.
You can’t swing a stick in NY without hitting a PSU grad.
If it is the next hotbed…PSU will clean up there.
I studied this extensively over the course of a few weeks
Got to put my economics degree to work. There’s a boatload of athletic talent in the inner cities of the Northeast (just check basketball rosters), but there was seldom access to any youth football leagues. Most high school teams didn’t have football programs (and many still don’t). But there have been many new fields built, and with the invention of field turf, multiple teams can share the same field without risk of tearing it up. This – coupled with the decrease in cost of basic things like football equipment – has lead to an explosion in youth football. Many inner city kids who would naturally gravitate towards basketball due to lack of choice are now playing football.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
We are elitist d-bags from the "Greatest Academic and Athletic Conference on Earth"!
Misspellings and grammatical errors will bother us as least as much as they bother you.
by MSULaxer27 on Dec 16, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hilarious
I have no connection to either UGA or PSU but the idea that anyone outside of PSU fans think of Penn State as a “top tier job” today is absolutely laughable.
I am not sure I have ever heard a single soul (excluding PSU fans) mention PSU as any sort of “football powerhouse” or “elite program” in 20+ years.
Hell, Penn State’s 11-1 season several years ago was barely noticed by anyone in the media outside the Northeast.
Unnoticed?
Really?
That Penn State – Florida State Orange Bowl garnered a 12.3 rating, highest rated non-BCS championship Orange Bowl in the BCS era, and one of the highest rated Orange Bowls ever. Also significantly higher than the Georgia – Florida State Orange Bowl from a few years earlier, which got a 9.2 rating.
Penn State was one game away (and in one case, one play away) from playing for a national title in 2005 and 2008 (and yes, in 2008 if they’d have gone undefeated, they’d have leapfrogged Texas in the computer rankings. Penn State had a tougher schedule that year… hell, if Ohio State had held off Texas, Penn State probably would have gone over a one-loss Texas despite losing on the last play to Michigan).
Top Tier doesn’t just mean the program has won national titles recently. It has as much to do with history, facilities, alumni support, and city/town environment as it does with recent success. Penn State has massive resources, the second largest stadium in college football, a wealthy and spread out alumni base, and a desirable town to live in (when compared to most schools in the South, anyway). Nebraska hasn’t necessarily competed for a national title in the past decade, but it’s still a top tier job. Michigan has sucked the past few years until this season, but that was always a top-tier job. Alabama went 17 years without a national title, and had some mediocre seasons while on probation in the earlier part of the past decade, but that was always a top-tier job.
Penn State has six Top 10 finishes in the last 20 years, including three in the past six seasons. Since 2005, they’ve beaten Florida State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, and LSU in bowl games. They’ve won 9+ games in six of the past seven seasons. That’s a pretty solid recent history, and combined with past history, it surely makes Penn State a top-tier job.
In all honesty, LSU wasn’t a “top-tier” job until Saban and Les Miles brought them back to glory. They even had a 16 year from the 80s to the mid 90s where they won only one bowl game.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 19, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
the 11-1 season being "barely noticed"
might hold more weight if we didn’t finish the season #2, behind the two teams who played in the MNC.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Dec 19, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
derp, I meant #3
working on a new keyboard here at work, just switched to ergonomic. That’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it.
Fire Dan Snyder
Furthermore...
Those three Top 10 finishes in the last six seasons? Here’s the other schools on that list:
Ohio State
Alabama
Texas
Oklahoma
LSU
Florida
USC
WVU
Virginia Tech
TCU
Boise State
So yeah, recent history for PSU is just fine. Think of all the “top tier” jobs that are noticably absent from that list: Nebraska, Georgia, Michigan, Notre Dame, Florida State, Tennessee*. Notice all the recent “elite” programs in the present that are absent from that list: Oregon, Oklahoma State, Auburn, Stanford, Arkansas, and South Carolina.
*Tennessee was a top-tier coaching job until Lane Kiffin decided to get out of dodge, and their complacency with mediocrity under Dooley hasn’t helped their profile, but given their history (there’s a reason they have the largest stadium in the SEC), I still think it’s more of a destination program than most.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 19, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
Something Logical
Penn State built its legend through a long term commitment to a program built around commitment and hard work, not trendiness. If they are true to that — forget about big names and rivals-rating-recruiting, go get a good, experienced, principled coach. Give him a 5 year contract and tell him to build the program. He might have a down year or two (JoePa had some too.)
And make sure he was never associated in any way with Jerry Sandusky.
Paul -
Go Sparty! Go Bucks!
Penn St V Georgia???
Well in the last 10 years Georgia has been in the top 10 as much or more than Penn State. And Georgia usually has a much tougher schedule. Penn State has always floated on a fairly easy schedule over the decades.
The only real reason I could see Richt leaving GA for PA is if GA is already talking him down the road and the writing is on the wall.
I don’t think Penn State has a monopoly on Football Tradition over any other Div 1 school. They just seem that way from geography and 50 years of JoPa.
I’m thinking you can see where that gets you….
Georgia "usually has a much tougher schedule"
Like… what… in the past 5-6 years? Probably true. Historically, I’d say it’s about even or slightly in favor of PSU (when they were independent, they had a lot of tough schedules). Penn State did play Alabama the past two years. Did Georgia?
Let’s look at next year’s schedules:
Penn State non-conference: Ohio, Navy, Virginia, Temple.
Georgia non-conference games: Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern, Georgia Tech
Advantage Penn State… not by much, but Ohio and Temple are MAC powers, Navy is a quality team (though not elite), and Virginia was an upset of VaTech form playing for the ACC title. And, no FCS schools.
Penn State divisional games: @Illinois, Ohio State, @Purdue, Indiana, Wisconsin.
Georgia divisional games: @South Carolina, Vandy, Tennessee, @Kentucky, Florida.
Advantage Penn State. Ohio State and Wisconsin will probably be better than any of those teams on that list.
Penn State crossover games: Northwestern, @Iowa, @Nebraska.
Georgia cross-over games: @Alabama, Ole Miss, @Auburn.
Advatage: No one. Nebraska and Iowa return a lot, especially their key offensive pieces, and those are tough places to play. Auburn might struggle without Malzahn, but that game will still be tough for UGa (Auburn is never an easy place to play). But Ole Miss is bad, and Northwestern is probably better than them. So I expect two road games against ranked teams for each team (with Alabama standing out), but then a cupcake for UGa, whereas Northwestern isn’t quite a cupcake for Penn State.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
This is the first time I've looked at this schedule for PSU, but it's interesting.
Penn State should be getting some serious computer love for their above average but very manageable non-conference slate. All those teams will probably win 8 to 10 games.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
This schedule's not right
No 1-AA cupcake. Pshaw.
For what it's worth, 5/6 head football coaches at PSU are in the HOF
Our football does go back a little pre Joe
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's just that
we have to rely on old Western Union telegrams for that info, because TV wasn’t around then.
/Paterno age joke’d
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
Strange
I thought they used carrier pigeons when he started.
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Dec 16, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Mark Richt to Penn State?
Why in the hell would anyone leave the SEC for the Big Ten? One persone said Penn State is a top ten program while Georgia is only a top 20 program. Sorry, but Penn State, or State Penn, is NOT a top ten program. The SEC rules, and anyone who says it doesn’t is just plain stupid!!
Urban Meyer
could probably answer your question better than any of us could
Show them Ohio's here.
by slidingscrapes on Dec 16, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 10 recs
Ladies and gentlemen ... THE SEC!
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
/Immahangupanlissen
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
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by Boiler Bandsman on Dec 17, 2011 6:13 AM CST up reply actions
When former 4 star recruit and Penn State commit DT Tommy Schutt said he was going to re-open his recruitment and visit Ohio State, Sekrah called Schutt to OSU long before it was made official.
That was tuff to all Tommy was turned down by Notre Dame, Michigan and a few others. With urban in it was pretty obvious don’t you think.
by NDMASTERBLASTER on Dec 15, 2011 11:17 PM CST reply actions
Richt?
what a terrible idea. the guy overall hasnt exactly been stellar as of late in Georgia.
the guy is on Ferentz’s level as a coach, maybe worse. PSU should be able to do better.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 15, 2011 11:19 PM CST reply actions
Richt is like Kirk Ferentz?
I’m really glad that you B1G types don’t have to let facts get in the way of your wild generalizations and speculation about coaches about whom you have no real knowledge.
Ferentz has been a head coach for 16 years. In that time, he’s won his conference once (with an additional shared title), had 3 10+ win seasons, and has been to 2 BCS bowl games. He has also has had 5 losing seasons and one season with a .500 record of 6-6.
Richt has been a head coach for 11 years, has been to 4 SEC Championship games, winning two of them. He has had 7 10+ win seasons, and has been to 3 BCS bowl games. He has only had 1 losing season.
(Oh, and during his tenure in Athens, Mark Richt has been to more SEC Championship Games (4) than either Tennessee (3) or Florida (3). In fact, he has been to the Championship Game during his tenure more than any team except LSU.)
Ferentz and Richt may have put the same number of conference championship trophies in the cabinet over their respective coaching careers, but that’s where the similarity ends.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
You're right.
Richt should not be compared to Ferentz.
Ferentz gets way more out of his talent than Richt. No coach does more with less talent than Ferentz, and no coach does less with more talent than Richt. They’re exact opposities.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
And of all the people to be sniping at the SEC, a Buckeye fan should be the last.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Ahhhh claiming conference superirioty when your team is MEH or worse
sounds a lot like the rest of the fans that don’t root for LSU or Alabama right now.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
How'd your last game against Georgia turn out?
Or, for that matter, how did any non-vacated bowl game you’ve ever played against the SEC turn out?
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
you mean in what, like 1989?
please join Vandy and Ole Miss on the couch next to the other middlings that hold on to what conference they play for.
Please get within the past 20 years when you want to talk about head to head games.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
goddammit 1992
stick within 18 years so my point holds true!
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Ah yes, when in doubt of your team's success, go to your conference.
Classic SEC trolling. Man, I didn’t see that coming. Very original!
I’d rather lose to an SEC team nine times than a C-USA team once.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Or a Big East team for that matter.
(/Rich Rod’d)
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
Ok...
… then how has the B1G fared against Georgia in every bowl game they’ve ever played?
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
number of UGA national championships..
GO!
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
How many Buckeyes does it take to change the subject when they're on the losing end of an argument?
Have a nice day.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
claiming superiority when being historically mediocre
UGA is doing it right.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
My whole point was about Ferentz.
You tried to claim that Richt and Ferentz weren’t comparable. I said you were right because Ferentz actually gets the most out of his talent. It was you who commented on my being a Buckeye fan without responding to my assertions.
Since 2002, Georgia has had the second highest average for rank of recruiting class, averaging 7.333 ranked class nationally, behind only Florida (which ranked an average of an even 7). I’d say Richt is a gross underachiever. For what it’s worth, Iowa has an average recruiting class rank of 39.333 since 2002. Both Iowa and Georgia have the same number of Top 25 finishes in the past four years, and Iowa has the more recent BCS win. Also, Iowa defeated #12 Mizzou in the Insight Bowl last year, whereas UGa was embarrassed by a C-USA team. Ferentz is also 3-1 against the SEC in bowl games.
Ferentz > Richt… and it’s not even close.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
BOOM
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
Please don't act like Georgia is more successful than Ohio State. For everyone's sake.
People will laugh.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
And to add on.
We’ve played you once in history, and lost by 7. Go ahead and chest thump that, but a lot of it is luck. How would Georgia have fared against the 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 or 2010 Buckeyes? or hell, how ‘bout the 1995, 1996 or 1998 ones? What’s the best Georgia team of the last 10 years? The 2003 Sugar Bowl one? Well, OSU won the National Championship that year, I’m sure you’ve heard. Maybe it was the 2006 Fiesta Bowl one? No, they lost to WVU while OSU won the Fiesta Bowl. Ok, what about 2008 Sugar Bowl team? Maybe, but, again, OSU was busy playing for the National Championship that year. The point is, go ahead and celebrate the 1993 Citrus Bowl, you won that, but any of those Georgia teams since lose to any of those Buckeye teams since, and in most cases, probably by a lot. I’ll take shit from a Florida/‘Bama/LSU fan, they’ve earned it, but a fucking Georgia one? Lol, Forril?
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by Jon Ross on Dec 16, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Denial?
When’s the last season Georgia won a BCS game against a team not named Hawaii?
Answer: 2002.
This, despite Georgia having consistent Top 5 and Top 10 recruiting classes. If you look at how many players Georgia has in the NFL – and how they’re faring – it’s quite obvious that UGa has underachieved. And you should never be kept out of the end zone by UCF… Not when you have AJ “All you have to do is throw me a jump ball” Green on your team.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Did I say Richt had won a BCS game since 2002?
All I’m claiming is that he is a better coach than Ferentz.
And in college, part of coaching is bringing in better recruits. So if Mark Richt simply coasts by on his players’ talent… well, then that is still a point in his favor compared to Ferentz.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Well
I think perhaps one might be able to get talented players with different amounts of effort by virtue of location alone. That is to say, not every young man dreams of spending four years in Iowa. As much as it hurts to admit it, Ferentz has put together some solid teams in recent years— teams that I’d gladly watch go up against anyone in the SEC. Georgia… has underwhelmed.
Regardless, this is a stupid argument.
All I’m claiming is that he is a better coach than Ferentz.
Annnnnd that’s where you lost me. Maybe if Richt were doing what he’s done at Georgia at a school like SC, Ole MIss or Miss State, you’d have a point. But Ferentz does a lot with jack shit. Nearly everybody is redshirted, he’s not in a recruiting hotbed.
You can claim he’s a better recruiter, i’ll agree. You can claim georgia’s king of the SEC east, I;ll agree. But really, man, do you believe Richt is a better coach – COACH – than Ferentz? Dude’s been putting 2 stars into the NFL since 2000.
All about internet speculation eh?
So this is like those allegations involving Craig James and FIVE DEAD HOOKERS?
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
Actually, it seems like he would fit right in...
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by ClaybornSmash on Dec 16, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Maybe it was when you shoved all those dollar bills down her throat, or, maybe it was when you hit her over the head with that stool..."
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
There's some speculating on here
that Richt may be on a hot seat or the UGA fans may be sick of him which I guess would lead to his dismissal, but how big is his buyout if he just breaks the contract & walks?
What's been going on in the SEC?
Urban Meyer leaves and is bringing some key Florida assistants with him
Charlie Weis leaves for… umm… Kansas? Did he interview at A&M?
Gus Malzahn takes a pay cut and goes to the Sun Belt?
Mark Richt rumored to have interest in leaving Georgia?
I wouldn’t speculate as much if Urban hadn’t made those comments about “the state of college football”.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 10:45 AM CST reply actions
I think the rampant oversigning
is going to come to a head, and soon.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
by Ted Glover on Dec 16, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Also forgot about Alabama OC Jim McElwain
Heading to Colorado State.
Didn’t the Ole Miss job open up? None of these coaches were interested in staying in the SEC? None of them wanted to go to A&M or Ole Miss? Or wait for the Kentucky or Tennessee jobs to possibly open up after next season?
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe knowing from the inside
the machine that is SEC football, those coaches decided they didn’t want to have to compete against it, especially from lower profile schools like A&M or Ole Miss.
And when the SEC is forced to stop oversigning, the Big Ten will reclaim the mantle
as greatest conference in the universe.
Well, except for the SEC teams that didn't oversign, and have never oversigned.
Like, for example, Georgia and Florida.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
And winning the SEC without oversigning is seemingly becoming an impossibility.
When’s the last time an east team not named Florida won the SECCG?
2005.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
A better question would be the prospects for the East going forward
Hint- Not good.
if it happens, it’ll probably be South Carolina, since they oversign like mad. Now if they could only do something about the coach.
Oversigning (at least, to the extent it has been previously done) is now a thing of the past.
It has been legislated out starting with this year’s recruiting class, and because of that, we’ll start to see programs like LSU and Alabama, who effectively signed an entire recruiting class more than non-oversigners over the previous combined 4 years, come back down to Earth.
Probably not in 2012, but starting in 2013 and 2014, the field will be more level.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
There are 2 kinds of oversigning. Only 1 has been banned.
Teams will have to stop over signing up front, but they can still cut players. You get 25 schollies a year. Over 4 years you get 100 schollies. But you can only have 85 of those scholarship guys on a roster.
Basically, the SEC will still over sign. Every year Robot Saban and his SEC cohorts will still cut guys who were promised scholarships. Contrast that with the Big Ten, where coaches are largely stuck with their recruiting ‘mistakes’.
A scholarship needs to be a 4 year commitment for every school. Otherwise, just stop making kids go to class altogether. Because a scholarship to play football should mean 4-5 years of free education. Not 1 year and the opportunity to be reevaluated every year after.
Changing schools almost always makes it harder to graduate.
And which team was that?
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Well, Florida doesn't oversign anymore
They chronically oversigned under Meyer
unsurprisingly, their best years were also under Meyer
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 16, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Florida "chronically oversigned" under Meyer?
Go back and check your facts, there, B1G man. Georgia and Florida are basically the only two successful programs in the SEC that have not oversigned over the past decade, including Corch Meyers’ not-brief-enough tenure. (I hate Florida, for the record, and I’m making this argument with one hand holding my nose because I’m having to use Georgia and Florida together in an argument.)
Florida’s president, in fact, has been one of the most outspoken critics of oversigning and greyshirting. Meyer raised some eyebrows when he discussed potentially greyshirting with a recruit before that recruit signed… but that’s light years away from signing 35-40 players, as Houston Nutt repeatedly did, and involuntarily greyshirting players as LSU and Bama have done.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 16, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Actually no, he consistently had to cut players because he over signed beyond the limit of 85 and breached the 25 player limit at times
Chronically was hyperbolic, but to say he didn’t over sign is farcical at best
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 16, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
#RonPforPSU
that is all
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 16, 2011 11:24 AM CST reply actions
Am I the only one who assumes that this is Richt's agent trolling for more money?
I mean, that just seems like the easiest explanation.
Didn't he already get a raise for the TA&M rumors?
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by Pariahwulfen on Dec 16, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
No, I think you are correct. Richt, as I said before,
is way too much of a Bible Banger for respectable New England and Midwesterners.
We don’t like all that proselytizing.
Between Pittsburgh and Philly lies Alabama's bastard child
Mississippi’s is called “Indiana.”
I doubt the trolling
There are so many openings, and not so many name coaches. I would be very surprised if a few schools haven’t called either an agent or a friend, quietly inquiring, since there was a lot of “hot seat” talk earlier this year.
There was also a well circulated rumor that Richt was considering retiring from coaching, to pursue something involving his spiritual beliefs… and a few who know him considered it to be possible “Is Richt gonna quit coaching to preach, PAWLLLL?”
I find it hard to believe that he would consider leaving Georgia for PSU. As a football school, Georgia is and will always be fertile territory. PSU will be again, it’s not really Chernobyl like I said earlier, but it’s close to Fukushima.
Another thing — people who know Richt have said it’s not really about money for him anymore.
Paul -
Go Sparty! Go Bucks!
There's only one of those things in Wisconsin?
I am shocked that drunk food of that magnitude hasn’t managed to gain a bigger foothold there.
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by Pariahwulfen on Dec 17, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Krystal > White Castle
Your argument is invalid.
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by NCT on Dec 18, 2011 1:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That is so wrong
White Castle is the original, and their burgers are much better. WC invented the hamburger bun, the fast food assembly line and the slider. The Krystal founder admitted that he copied White Castle.
Yes, I was aware that Krystal was a copy.
I maintain it also was an improvement.
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by NCT on Dec 18, 2011 7:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not in a million years
White Castle is much better, in my opinion.
That's the dumbest thing I've seen.
I’ve spent enough time in Jersey — if it’s in the top ten those stats are garbage.
Paul -
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by pmeisel on Dec 18, 2011 6:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a bad idea for one of two reasons.
Either Richt is not awesome enough for PSU or PSU is too awesome for Richt. I’m not sure which.
Judging by the number of blatantly invective comments...
About UGA football, I would have to say that some folks in here are suffering from a bit of jealousy.
PSU is most definitely NOT a more desirable coaching position than UGA.
Regardless of the current unfortunate public relations nightmare, Penn State is not the destination job that is UGA.
In its entire 100 plus year history, I believe that UGA football has only had a total of two head coaches leave to take the same position at another school, and one was…. yes…. Pop Warner.
I really do not think that you have any understanding of the richness or depth of history and tradition associated with the UGA football program.
Urban Meyer has somehow blinded the B1G conference into thinking that it is the premier football conference in the country, and ANY AND ALL coaches would jump at a chance to take a part in its festivities.
Urban Meyer left UF because he saw the writing on the wall.
He recruited very poorly and realized that he could not win at the level with which he was accustomed.
When the going got tough, Urban Meyer got going.
Mark Richt will be a Dawg next year. Count on it.
Your fantasies might help you cope with the fact that Penn State is struggling with a nightmare of epic proportions, and I sincerely hope that this daydream of yours is emotional stabilizing.
Because when you awaken from your starry eyed slumber, Mark Richt will be coaching at UGA in the SEC.
You know…. the SEC. Home of the past 5… no I am sorry…. 6 straight BCS national champions.
Now… choose to make a derisive UGA comment if your wish.
But do realize that this is a thread about Penn State wanting our head coach.
Cheers.
Bobo needs to Gogo.
Have you seen the recruiting classes in '10?
If you follow recruiting at all, you would know that there is/was a ton of talent left at Fl. What his record against your beloved puppies?
Between Herschel Walker and Richt, your program was irrelevant. Your mascot is your tradition.
I do believe this is the first time I've ever agreed with biggy.
But those MNCs you claim? Not yours, pal. those belong to FL, Bama, LSU, and Auburn.
Anyone see Georgia’s name in there? Me neither.
"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"
by Boiler Bandsman on Dec 19, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
Urban Meyer never claimed the B1G was the premier football conference in the country
He said in the press conference that “the SEC is hot right now” and the “Big Ten is behind, but not by much”.
Since the 2004 bowl season, the Big Ten is 9-10 versus the SEC in bowl games. That pretty much confirms what Meyer said, that the Big Ten is behind, but not by much. If it weren’t for Northwestern’s kicker missing a chip-shot game winner in 2009-10, the Big Ten would be 10-9. Yes, Northwestern took Auburn to the wire. The team we affectionately refer to around here as jNW managed 607 yards of offense on one of your “vaunted” SEC defenses the year before that same team won a MNC.
And by bringing up things your team hasn’t won, you just put your team on the same level as Miss St, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.
Penn State has more Top 10 finishes in the past six seasons than Georgia. Their Alumni base is bigger. Their stadium is bigger. Their endowment is THREE TIMES what Georgias is. They have more undefeated seasons and national championships. More consensus All-Americans. A larger television market. Should I keep going?
I don’t think anyone is saying that by virtue of Penn State being a top tier job that Georgia somehow isn’t. I think Georgia is a top-tier job. But to say Penn State isn’t is just plain dumb. I personally don’t want Richt to go to Penn State, because I think he’s the grossest underachiever in all of college football. He has had loaded recruiting classes, and yet hasn’t even sniffed a BCS championship game. His last BCS win against a team not named Hawaii was after the 2002 season. The closest he ever got to a National Title game was in 2007, but he somehow managed to lose to South Carolina (who would finish 6-6, even losing to Vanderbilt) at home, despite having Matthew Stafford and Knowshon Moreno.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 20, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
"his last BCS win against a team not named Hawaii was after the 2002 season"
That sentence is true, but is that going to be our metric of success? Geez. Make fun of Richt for going 6-7 in 2010 and losing to UCF, not for beating up on Hawaii in 2007. Quick: name the last BCS game that Alabama won against a team whose starting QB played more than 1 quarter. When’s the last time Penn State won a BCS bowl against a team not coached by Bobby Bownden? I never knew it was so much fun to use random conditions to detract from historical bowl results!
And we’re going to start determining the quality of coaching gigs by endowments?
I’ve got no problem with your insults against Coach Richt (and that is absolutely what they are), but this is pretty pathetic.
by first and thom on Dec 20, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
It's odd to me that a discussion about the possibility of hiring Coach Richt has turned into a pissing match between alien fanbases.
Why don’t we keep our tradition and you guys keep yours? We’ll hang on to our coach (whom you do not want), and you guys can find somebody else. I sincerely hope that Penn State emerges from these present difficulties in a manner worthy of its proud tradition.
Well then it's settled...
This thread is a load of crap and Mark Richt is staying at UGA….
Thank you for confirming this for me.
That was the entire point of my post.
Bobo needs to Gogo.
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