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B1G Championship Game: An Inaugural Food Bet and Prediction

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Those of you who have read OTE for more than a year know that I have a little bit of a tradition with food bets when it comes to bowl games. Two years in a row I've lost out on tasty bbq thanks to Northwestern's ineptitude in the post-season football field. And yet, I continue to make these bets despite knowing that I have little chance of success.

Well this time, this time I think I might just win. To commemorate the very first ever Big Ten championship game, MSULaxer and I have agreed to make a food/beer bet on the outcome. If you're new in town or just especially forgetful, the way these things work is that each of us puts some food product on the line that best represents our school or our state, and the loser ships the product to the winner.

It's a simple thing, really, but I've always found that it adds just a little something extra to watching the games as they play out. And, like I said, I think this year I actually have a decent shot at winning. That's because I think Wisconsin is going to come away with this one handily.

Given that I'm in the midst of finals here in my last year of law school, I was unable to contribute my prediction for the game to the staff predictions post in time. But, I agree with the lines and the commentator consensus -- Bucky will come away with this game. Now, that's not because I think the Spartans are a bad team.... far from it. They got to the championship game, right? So by virtue of that fact alone they're pretty good.

Oh and... they did beat my Badgers once before, so I guess I have to give that to them. But all the same, I subscribe to the idea that lightening can't possibly strike twice. And that's what happened in the first game. I'm not just talking about the Hail Mary pass to end it here, though of course that is an example...

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There were also several other things that happened in that game that gave MSU the slight edge it needed to down the Badgers. And I just can't see all of these things happening at the same time again.

In the game against Bucky, Kirk Cousins happened to play one of the best football games he's had all season, looking at completion percentage, yardage, and TD-INT ratio. The only in conference games that have come close to that, stats wise, for him are against Indiana and Minnesota, not exactly the class of the conference.

Against Wisconsin, Michigan State was a perfect 1-for-1 on 4th down conversions and 8-16 on 3rd down conversions. They also weren't penalized for a single yard during the entire game. So, not only did Kirk Cousins have an amazing game, but the entire team, both offense and defense, played at an impeccable level.

In no other conference game this season have they played this well. Against Michigan, sure they had a 50% third down completion rate (and no 4th down conversion attempts) but they were also penalized thirteen times for 124 yards and committed two turnovers. Against Minnesota, Cousins threw for 296 yards with 2 TDs and 0 INTs, but the team was penalized five times and went just 4-for-13 on third down attempts. It's a similar story with their game against Iowa where Cousins also had strong numbers, but the team still went just 4-for-16 on third down conversions and was penalized seven times for 75 yards. Against Ohio State, penalized six times while going just 3-for-14 on third down conversions. Against Nebraska they also went just 3-for-14 on third down, and were penalized nine times. Even when they rolled Indiana they still drew five penalties and went 0-for-1 on 4th down.

Look, I'm not saying that Sparty won the first match-up against Wisconsin based solely on luck or what have you. That would be disingenuous, and would also ignore how poorly Wisconsin played in several facets of the game. But I am saying that a lot went right for Michigan State that night, and they still had to throw a Hail Mary to keep the game from going to overtime. It is difficult for me to believe that they could turn in a performance like that two times in a row.

And, anyway, I sure hope that I'm right because I really want to force MSULaxer to send me some delicious variety of Bell's beer... Of course, should I be wrong and my Badgers fail, I will be shipping him a selection of the finest Babcock Hall cheeses, which I'm sure will pair well with his finally justified feelings of conference superiority. Not like that's going to happen, though... right? I mean... it can't possibly happen twice, right?

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Babcock Hall cheeses?

Maybe personal preferance, but I’m disappointed in that selection. You’ve got to go beer-for-beer on this one. New Glaurus “Spotted Cow” or some of Monroe’s St. Joseph “Berghoff” brews. Capital Brewery Wheat wouldn’t hurt either. That’s not even touching the good old-fashioned “Macro-brews” in and around Milwaukee. If you feel the need to include food other than liquid bread, pair it with some good Johnsonville or Usinger brats. Damn, I love Wisconsin (and I grew up in Michigan).

by GTom on Dec 2, 2011 5:09 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I'm with GTom

Some cheddar brats & a couple of 6 packs of Spotted Cow sounds just right to me.

Or should the unthinkable happen, you got that right with some Bell’s, can always use it to wash down some Mackinac Island fudge or Detroit style coneys (he can send you a frozen coney kit).

by MSUDersh on Dec 2, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

How about some Faygo RedPop?

You could have forced him to drink nothing but RedPop for a year. Which could have been humorous. And gross. (I like me some Faygo but I’ve never liked RedPop. Rock’N’Rye, though…)

"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy

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by jhitts08 on Dec 2, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a friend from MSU who loves, loves Faygo Red Pop.

She attended law school and got married in Harrisburg, PA. So I brought a 2L bottle of red pop to her wedding and had them chill it like a bottle of champagne and present it to her table.

by MSULaxer27 on Dec 3, 2011 2:24 AM CST up reply actions  

The only real problem with Faygo is

If you’re anywhere in the Midwest, especially the rural Midwest outside of Michigan, you might be mistaken for a Juggalo if you buy it at the store.

"I believe in a good kick in the ass. This— I believe. " -- Walker Percy

I tweet about stuff sometimes @jackhitts.

by jhitts08 on Dec 3, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh almost forgot

Like GTom, I’m a fan of Wisconsin the state – it’s like a massive gastropub!

by MSUDersh on Dec 2, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

This

Although if Autumnal Fire is still available, that would be the ideal stake.

by buckyor on Dec 3, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

And

if you’re gonna stick with cheese- make it Carr Valley or Pleasant Ridge Reserve.

by buckyor on Dec 3, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Sigh. I wish

I’m proctoring the LSAT tomorrow so am trapped in Chicago… I’ll certainly be watching it though.

Off Tackle Empire - Ruling over the Big Ten since 2008.

by Hilary Lee on Dec 2, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Boo

What’s up with the UW fanbase? From ticket reports, it seems that they’re not making the drive.

Unfortunate that you’re not going though. We need our UW OTE representative to give first person insight from the game!

by SpartyFever on Dec 2, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa whoa....

…..whoa. If UW wins, he has to give you Bell’s beer, a fantastic brewery in the heart of Kalamazoo, MI…but if MSU wins, he gets cheese??

by SpartyFever on Dec 2, 2011 5:48 PM CST reply actions  

Bells baby!

Gotta get The Oarsmen, a sour finish and my personal favorite

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by Graham Filler on Dec 2, 2011 6:07 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Not in winter

Two Hearted or Expedition are where it’s at.

by lonewolf371 on Dec 3, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

What's with all the cheese hate?

I’m as big a beer enthusiast as the next guy (I work at Yards Brewing in Philly), but cheese is probably the best thing ever. Plus, in these sorts of things I prefer to get something that I wouldn’t ordinarily buy. I’m going to buy Bells beer quite regularly, but a nice selection of WI cheeses isn’t something I would ordinarily pick up, which makes it more fun IMO.

by Milton58 on Dec 3, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Can I make a suggestion?

Since this article is a nice, fun bet between two good teams (and people), I’d like to make a pact with the Spartan and Badger nation. As was posted over at TheOnlyColors, the budding rivalry between MSU and UW has been quite thrilling. Both these teams are clearly on the rise, and has the potential to be the next “Big 2”. But more importantly, both fanbases for the most part are quite knowledgeable and down to earth. If this rivalry does eventually turn into the next “Big 2” or just a great series of games, can we as fans agree to stay down to earth and not gain elitist attitudes like certain other B1G teams? Me personally, I want to hate you during MSU-UW week, but cheer for you the rest of the time. I don’t feel like it is that way with OSU-UM, or MSU-UM, and quite a few others. Can it be that way for MSU-UW?

by SpartyFever on Dec 2, 2011 6:27 PM CST reply actions  

I think

By referring to yourselves as “the next ‘Big 2’” you’re already too far gone when it comes to those elitist attitudes.

by TDozer on Dec 2, 2011 6:42 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I think a lot has to do with the tenor of the games

But I’m okay with a mostly-friendly rivalry.

Off Tackle Empire - Ruling over the Big Ten since 2008.

by Hilary Lee on Dec 2, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not.

I can’t predict the form a rivalry will take, whether it will be courteous and spirited, or will result in herbicidal madness. BTW, fuck Iowa.

I just want to watch the world burn.

by Bob Genghiskhan on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions  

right

Fick Iowa

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by Graham Filler on Dec 2, 2011 11:41 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

a rebuttal

A rebuttal:
First, my disclaimer. I am a Michigander by birth, a Hawkeye by the grace of God. I am a fan of no school in the B1G except Iowa. I do not rebut because Michigan State is based in the state of my birth, but because your post screams for rebuttal.

You wrote:
"In the game against Bucky, Kirk Cousins happened to play one of the best football games he’s had all season, looking at completion percentage, yardage, and TD-INT ratio. The only in conference games that have come close to that, stats wise, for him are against Indiana and Minnesota, not exactly the class of the conference."
My rebuttal:
Big time players rise to the occasion. Winners want the ball and know what to do with it. As a sports fan, this is something you should know and understand. It’s what I call the Reggie Jackson phenomenon. That Cousins had no statistical performance as good as the one he turned in against Bucky is merely evidence of how big Sparty saw the matchup……and understood what they had to do. It’s also worth noting that this is precisely what Bucky DID NOT DO.

You wrote:
"Look, I’m not saying that Sparty won the first match-up against Wisconsin based solely on luck or what have you. That would be disingenuous, and would also ignore how poorly Wisconsin played in several facets of the game."
My rebuttal:
This is extremely disrespectful to a team that outplayed Bucky, all day, and in all phases. You have allowed no possibility that Bucky’s poor play was caused by Sparty. At the very least, this is poor fandom, the fan’s counterpart to poor sportsmanship. For shame.

by alsace_man on Dec 3, 2011 2:03 AM CST reply actions  

Uhhh

That Nebraska game wasn’t a big game? I guess Kirk Cousins gets to pick which games he thinks are big because of that nice speech he gave that one time.

Spartans didn’t even score a touchdown in that game. Meanwhile, Russell Wilson has thrown at least 1 TD in 36 straight games.

Bucky's 5th Quarter - All Badgers, all the time.

by Adam Tupitza on Dec 3, 2011 2:38 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Cousins showed up in Wisc game!

290 yds, 3 td, no ints – as opposed to his counterpart in cardinal & white, whose 2 ints & safety helped lead to 9 Spartan points.

I think we can all agree that was a big game.

by MSUDersh on Dec 3, 2011 10:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

read it again

Clearly, Sparty saw Bucky as the team to beat, and beat them. Thought I made that clear.

by alsace_man on Dec 3, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

MSU road games are impressive.

MSU road games
At OSU, at Iowa, at NW, at Nebraska. MSU 3/4.Not bad at all.
WIsc road games
At MSU, at OSU, at Minnesota, at Illinois. Wisc 2/2.
If anyone before the preseason started MSU to have a better road record than Wisconsin, I would have said you might be smoking something. MSU’s one loss conf record was at Nebraska, where they looked tired after a grueling October schedule.

by spartynation on Dec 3, 2011 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

but wait, there's more

Four road games, two against the top of the league and two against the bottom of the league. They lost at the top and won at the bottom. Draw your own conclusions.

by alsace_man on Dec 3, 2011 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Bell's beer and good cheese.

I am just jealous.

Paul -
Go Sparty! Go Bucks!

by pmeisel on Dec 3, 2011 9:55 AM CST reply actions  

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