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EDIT: Paul Chryst to Pitt, CONFIRMED. Chip Kelly (?!?!) To Penn State? Wassup With The Coaching Searches, yo?

EDIT: Tweets from Danny Sheridan and Sports By Brooks are reporting that Chryst to Pitt is official. And by God sports reporter Paul Zeise of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

With the hiring of Tim Beckman at Illinois, there is only one vacancy remaining to be filled in The Greatest Conference Ever In The History Of The World Ever And Ever, and that's at Penn State.

We'll get to them in a minute, but let's update the Pitt job, where we mentioned here a couple-ish days ago that two prominent B1G assistant coaches were in the running for that job.

It looked like Mario Cristobal was the front runner for a couple days, who I was surprised to learn was NOT Pat Fitzgerald wearing a fake goatee in disguise, but he might not be the favorite anymore.

According to this phenomenal timeline, courtesy of SBN's Wisconsin blog Bucky's 5th Quarter, Fickell was officially eliminated as a candidate AT PRECISELY 2:50...and for the love of God B5Q, next time can you tell me if that's Eastern or Central time? I mean seriously, you're really slacking here guys...//sarcasm off.

And at 5:19...not 5:18, not 5:20, 5:19, Wisconsin OC Paul Chryst emerged as the leading candidate, and what happens to Chryst will go a long way in determining where Dane Crist, Notre Dame QB of the future who never really panned out, ends up.

We continue with Penn State, after the jump.

Star-divide

As for Penn State, there are a lot of rumors still bubbling to the surface, and two interesting names have popped to the surface besides this one.

The first one, Nebraska head coach Bo Pelini, was squashed pretty fast by Pelini himself.

The other one, which is REALLY intriguing, is Oregon's Chip Kelly. Yeah, Chip Freakin' Kelly. Again, I source Sekrah Sports off of the Twitterverse, the same account I used for Richt:

Rumors are rumors and everyone has them, but...wow...if this is true. We've already talked Richt, so let's talk Chip Kelly.

1) My initial reaction is Kelly is a GREAT hire, with one HUGE caveat: The Willie Lyles problem. You know, that other NCAA scandal that broke this summer? The one no one had time to talk about because of...wait, I promised I wouldn't write about that anymore. Never mind. Move along.

If Chip Kelly is looking to get out of Oregon ahead of NCAA sanctions a la Pete Carroll and PSU is giving him a place to go, this would be a PR disaster for Penn State and the conference. The last thing Happy Valley needs is a coached tarnished with scandal to come into the Mother Of All Scandals.

HOWEVAH...

If (and I know that's a big if), but if Kelly is free and clear of Lyles and his dubious scouting prowess, holy crap this is a coup. If I was a Penn State fan, I would be happy with Richt, but I'd be ecstatic with Kelly. Kelly runs an innovative offense that might actually utilize the skillset that Rob Bolden brings to the table, he's a national figure that could shore up a recruiting class that is currently a mess, and would instantly change the narrative in Happy Valley, at least for the time being. Detractors would be quick to say 'the next Rich Rodriguez', but I disagree.

And as a B1G fan, he'd fit right in. He already knows how to lose Rose Bowls, and he can't beat Ohio State, so all in all, yeah, I'm good with it.

C'mon, Penn State fan, you have to find humor somewhere. It's a joke. Laugh, you need to. You deserve to.

Word on the street is that Pitt will decide on whether or not Chryst will be their coach tomorrow, and no one really knows when Penn State will announce who their coach will be.

But if it's Richt or Kelly, Penn State will have done a fantastic job.

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Why would Chip want to leave Oregon?

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Dec 21, 2011 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

That's what I don't get

If this is like a murder mystery, there’s no motive. You would think Phil Knight could outdo any salary that Penn State offered, so my guess would be he’s outrunning the NCAA. If THAT’S the case, then Penn State would be dumb to hire him.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 21, 2011 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah. Chip has it made in the shade out west.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Dec 21, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares about the old CEO of Nike?

Look at who the CURRENT CEO of Nike is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Parker

(pure rumor speculation, I have no idea who it is… but this game is fun!)

by bonovoxly on Dec 21, 2011 9:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

If Penn State lands Kelly

then is it safe to say that the Big Ten will have the best collection of coaches in any conference in CFB?

by AhliBobwa on Dec 22, 2011 1:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Mark Parker, NIKE CEO thru 2008 PSU Alum

Oregon won’t outspend Penn State. PSU #3 Most profitable CFB program in the country.

Current Hotlist –
Richt, Peterson, Munchak

Less Likely –
Cowher, Gruden, Stoops, Fitzgerald, Dungy, Saban

by posas14 on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I could see him trying to skip town before any NCAA sanctions got handed down, but I can't imagine PSU would hire him if that was his reason for wanting to leave.

Maybe he just doesn’t want to have to compete with Lane “the Brain” Kiffin

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by Spartan D on Dec 21, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Chip's problems may be a welcome set in Happy Valley

despite his coaching theory meshing like Callahan’s did in Lincoln

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by BentNotBroken on Dec 21, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

The man is in a conference he can win every year, fairly easily, and get to the BCSNCG.

I don’t see him giving that up to go to Penn State.

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by U-God on Dec 22, 2011 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

with resources most coaches only dream of

yeah, he ain’t leaving Oregon, except in a paddy wagon.

by buckyor on Dec 22, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Ferentz respects them too much already

With KOK as the coach there, Iowa would literally never win because the defense would be “Quarters, Zone underneath, fall down in case of end-around”.

I can ride my bike with no handlebars...

by hkobb7 on Dec 22, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

You mean
The one no one had time to talk about because of…wait, I promised I wouldn’t write about that anymore. Never mind. Move along.

Miami?

Wait, no, that story has disappeared since Penn State melted down. Seriously, is the NCAA just wading through the rest of the crap before getting to Miami? I’m still shocked Golden walked into that that and is apparently staying, when Penn State is still open.

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by chitownhawkeye on Dec 21, 2011 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

They have a lot to do before Miami

UNC went before the COI this fall (October?). SC has over $50k in impermissible benefits and other problems to deal with. I’m sure the Miami investigation is being done but the NCAA is spread kind of thin right now.

by br27 on Dec 22, 2011 1:46 AM CST up reply actions  

FWIW

Apparently, a Pitt player just tweeted ‘welcome to Pitt Coach Chryst’.

I saw it on the Internet, so I am sure it’s true.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 21, 2011 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe it's the Wannstache stigma

But HC at Pitt doesn’t seem like a great gig. Is Sconnie on the downward slide? Or is Chryst looking for a nice raise at a desperate program, 5th coach in 14 months?

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by BentNotBroken on Dec 21, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Only one of those gigs is intentionally comedic... sorry Paul /Price is Right loser tone

BTW, when is your next slot on 1700 AM in DSM?

"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy

by BentNotBroken on Dec 21, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Back when

A couple guys named Majors and Sherrill made a splash. It’s potentially a good gig, but you gotta win. Gottfried did ok for awhile but got crossways with the administration, and Majors didn’t have the spark the second time around. Walt Harris couldn’t get over the hump…..

Wannstedt did better than a lot of people thought he would, and I think Pederson may have screwed up getting rid of him… after Haywood and Graham, Chryst is probably his last football coach hire. If Chryst wins and stays six or seven years, Pederson will probably leave by then. If he doesn’t, a new AD will make the next choice.

Paul -
Go Sparty! Go Bucks!

by pmeisel on Dec 23, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

True. HISTORY is there.

And with the struggles of another instate rival, now may be the perfect time to HC at Pitt

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by BentNotBroken on Dec 24, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Congratulations to Paul Chryst

Smart move to take a BCS job now. His stock will never be higher. Pitt is a good place to run his offense, so that’s a plus too.

As a Gopher fan Chryst has driven me nuts. I’m glad he’s off to torture ACC defenses instead of Big Ten ones.

by AhliBobwa on Dec 22, 2011 1:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Why are you using random twitters as sources?

I mean, if you really wanted to get on the twitter/chip kelly/psu bandwagon, you could have wrote this article 1 week ago…

SportsBrewery: @Prehmmr @SportsTalk953 Chip Kelly to Penn State!!!! (7 days ago)

;)

by bonovoxly on Dec 21, 2011 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

I agree

This guy reminds me a a poser that caught the attention of the Michigan blogosphere for some time over the summer. He reads other sources to find out about rumors, makes grand proclamations “confirming” things that appear likely to happen in the near future (the Schutt rumor that initially roped Ted in, for example), and hopes that they come true. If it works once or twice, a few people begin to think that he actually has a connection and keep reading and linking to his crazy predictions.

by GCS on Dec 22, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I was not 'roped in'

I went willingly. I’m such a rumor whore…

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

That's where you and I differ

It pains me to see a person get front-page links when his strategy for gaining credibility appears to be preying on the gullibility of other people.

by GCS on Dec 22, 2011 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not gullibility

it’s something to talk about. The dead period between the regular season and the bowls suck.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

If you watched TCU play last night

their players thought the period during the Poinsettia Bowl sponsored by San Diego something something Credit Union was a dead period, too. Oof, not that I blame them, but talk about lifeless.

by txhawkeye on Dec 22, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Or you know,

maybe TCU isn’t that good?

by MSULaxer27 on Dec 22, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I was pulling for LaTech in that game.

Went to a Charger game this weekend and met a bunch of guys from LaTech on the train to Qualcomm. Seemed like decent dudes.

Also, fuck TCU for some reason.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 22, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe not that great

but better than that (even if they did win). Patterson was pissed.

by txhawkeye on Dec 22, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Ivan Maisel was using the logic that a sleep-walking TCU team who missed a BCS bowl playing a excited La. Tech team is what make bowl season great. Which it does, except for that whole sleep walking part…

by rogerja on Dec 22, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

The Badgers will miss Chryst

I’m not completely sold he’s suited to be a HC – not a great media guy, not a lot of recruiting experience, etc., but he’s earned his shot at the top job.

That said, the question is how the Badgers replace him. Hire from within, or pull someone from the NFL..

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If it made sense, it wouldn't be the BCS.

by John Veldhuis on Dec 21, 2011 11:24 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Jim Bollman is available :)

All his plays are on a cocktail napkin = easy to pack up.

by biggy84 on Dec 22, 2011 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

Shugarts audibled to false start all on his own on those plays. They were probably slow developing deep passes with only 1 or 2 receivers running routes.

by br27 on Dec 22, 2011 1:49 AM CST up reply actions  

This must be the late season version.

The early season version also had “Bauserman gives luck fan a football” pass option to make sure nobody in 2nd deck would risk falling asleep.

Proud proponent of the 52 team Uber Conference

by ProveIt on Dec 22, 2011 4:13 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

No more 1st Round picks

OSU OL has awful, awful footwork because of him.

So do it…

Please?

by rogerja on Dec 22, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Ken O'Keefe for UW

Bielama has worked with him before.

by StewMonkey13 on Dec 22, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Not buying into the claim...

…the problem with PSU’s coaching search is the scandal.
I just don’t see it as an issue for recruits, coaching expectations, or the NCAA.
I do see it as possibly responsible for the late start as everyone jumped into “CYA” mode rather than looking for a new HC (though they should have already had a list locked in the AD’s top drawer).

Not buying into the claims…
They have interest in/from any coach already interviewed.
or
They have a candidate who is just waiting to complete his bowl game.

…neither historically happens in HC transitions…

No idea what the problem really is – I suspect it varies from coach to coach.
Examples: location, salary, facilities, disposition/personality of the AD and staff, small coaching tree, length of JoPas tenure not making it a job others dreamed of, looking at coaches who are happy in their current program, just bad timing – not the year to try to get a big name to move, pending COP/C investigation (J/K)…feel free to add to the list…

…2 things are certain…
1. Richt or Kelly would be awesome to add to the Big Ten coaches.
2. The new HC doesn’t need to be a recruiting guru, just able to lock up his home state.

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by ProveIt on Dec 22, 2011 4:53 AM CST reply actions  

Congrats to Chryst

But also, let me point out — Gus Malzahn wins a national title as an offensive coordinator at Auburn, and heads to Arkansas State of all places. Chryst gets Wisconsin to 2 Rose Bowls and gets to be head coach of Pitt.

So, at least in terms of placing successful assistants as head coaches, B1G > SEC.

by Chadnudj on Dec 22, 2011 6:34 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

True, but didn't Malzahn

turn down a head gig offer last year? I seem to remember somebody was chasing him, but Auburn gave him a huge raise and mase him the highest paid coordinator in the country. I could be wrong on that, though.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

That and Gus moved to his homestate to head coach.

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by U-God on Dec 22, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Vanderbilt wanted him. That’s the way I remember it, anyway.

by txhawkeye on Dec 22, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Chip isn't coming here. It'd be a bad move for both sides

“Nobody knows anything, etc” is also a factor. A lot of those Penn State insider sites say we’ve got our guy and he’s already acquiring his staff. I’m still with the “We don’t know anything” side though.

As for hiring Chryst? It’s a good hire, even better since they didn’t hire Cristobal. That’s a guy I wouldn’t want at Pitt. Definitely wouldn’t want at Pitt

Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 22, 2011 9:02 AM CST reply actions  

Wouldn't want Cristobal because

he’s a Wannstadt kind of ’don’t want’, or don’t want Cristobal because he’s good and could really elevate the program?

I don’t know anything about the guy.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, because he could elevate Pitt

He’s got a good eye for talent, and he’s a good recruiter. Energetic, and could probably preach Pitt “Trying to overcome PSU”, and potentially be successful about it

two things I don’t want. Chryst is good, but he’s not supposed to have the Cristobal fire and whatnot.

Basically, I don’t want Pitt getting energized and thinking they’ll win NC’s. Bad for recruiting.

Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 22, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

That's great.

Paul doesn’t exactly ooze energy.

The Pitt media is in for a “fun” few years.. Talking with the media isn’t and never will be at the top of his “things I’d like to be doing right now.”

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by John Veldhuis on Dec 22, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Bo Pelini suggests belligerence and calling out that one media guy who is always on your case.

Then things will calm down and everything will be just peachy!

Play for the love of the game. A Cornhusker through feast or famine. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Dec 22, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wouldn't Penn State likely have to show cause why the hired Kelly

When the “Willie Lyles thing” come to a head?

Based on past show cause penalties Kelly, if hit with a show cause, for you know, buying a recruit, couldn’t : (1) coach summer camp(s); (2) coach bowl game(s); (3) recruit.

While PSU’s a shit-storm of child-rape enabling, I don’t think they go down this road.

by rogerja on Dec 22, 2011 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

I don't think that they need to do a show cause

unless a coach is already tagged. To my knowledge, there’s no retroactive rule that I know of.

But yeah, I’m surprised his name has been mentioned because of the Lyles thing. I would think schools that are interested in him would want to wait until the Lyles thing is resolved.

Unless, of course, PSU’s AD is as plugged in as Gene Smith is and knows what’s going to happen. Fuckin’ Gene Smith…

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Give the guy a break Ted

He has been moonlighting as a High School Music Teacher, using the alias Steve Harvey:

You win with people (not named Joe Bauserman)

by BuckeyeSki on Dec 22, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I love Steve Harvey on Family Feud

Top 1 answer is on the board: Name the most out of touch AD in the Big Ten:

DEEDLE DEEDLE DEEDLE (or whatever the FF buzzer sound is)

Answer: Gense Smith?

Let’s see…is it GENE-O??

DINGDINGDING

//cue Family Feud theme song, cut to family ‘Ohio State’ irrationally jumping up and down irrationally with glee

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

What is Morgan Burke, Alex?

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Dec 22, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I was under the impression that a coach that still works for a NCAA member institution could be retroactively punished for past action. Didn’t Mossouri “investigate” their coach who was alleged to have paid Miami BB player $10K?

Anyhow, I thought that NCAA member institution staff had to answer questions from the NCAA.

by rogerja on Dec 22, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

PSU’s a shit-storm of child-rape enabling

It’s not like it was all of us, just Curley, Schultz, Spanier, & Jerry. It’s not the whole damn university

Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 22, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not going to pile on, but

after watching the narrative unfold over the OSU thing this past year, once the talking heads have their opinion and they promote it, that opinion becomes fact, whether it’s true or not.

The talking head opinion is that JoePa and the entire coaching staff and administration knew something was amiss and did nothing to stop it, facts to this point be damned. In their eyes everyone is guilty, everyone is culpable, whether they are or not.

It sucks for Penn State, and is sucks for the 99% of the population of PSU that had no clue about Sandusky’s activities, but you guys are in for a lot worse.

Get ready.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh I know, I've already seen it, and argued it, and argued it, and argued it

And I’ll continue to argue it.

It’s the biggest sports scandal in history. I’d expect nothing less than all the coverage. But it’s not something that I’d want to sit around and watch happen.

Doesn’t help that the PSU Pres & BoT just take it from the media, and like it.

Minus the tipping over the news van, that was overblown. The person who started the idea to tip the Van is in High School, anyways.

Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 22, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I dunno on how to feel about Mike

He went and told Joe, and then did nothing. Some reports say he didn’t actually see anything. By all accounts, before this, he seems to have been a great guy.

At the same time, there’s mental trauma. I dunno, I can’t say I’m a fan of him for the inaction. But honestly……… ugh, seeing Jerry doing something that wrong would be like seeing Ghandi gun someone down, just in how the figureheads were portrayed.

Well, after Ghandi left the military.

Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 22, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't get why MM gets a free pass up to this point

I mean, if there’s culpability on JoePa’s part because of his supposed inaction, and that caused such an uproar that he was fired, MM was much worse IMO. He saw it…and left.

I would like to think that if I (or damn near anyone) was in that situation, one of two things would happen. Either I would’ve beaten Jerry Sandusky to within an inch of his life when I stepped in and stopped it, or he would’ve beaten me to within an inch of my life after I intervened to stop it. Either way, the conduct with the kid would’ve ended.

But MM just left and told Joe the next day. Yet JoePa was crucified, and MM goes on about his business. Odd.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

i heard that MM may be protected

by the state’s whistleblower laws, and the university’s hands may be tied as a result.

Show them Ohio's here.

by slidingscrapes on Dec 22, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not as quick to flame MM

If I stepped into that scene like MM did, first I’d be in shock. My initial reaction would be embarrassment… as in trying to remove myself from the scene. Then as I’m walking in a daze out to the car, that’s when it would occur to me that “Oh shit. I’ve got to go back in there and stop that!” That’s when my protective instincts would kick in. By which time, I’m sure JS & victim would no longer be in the building.

I’m more antagonistic towards MM’s father and the family friend. (And BTW isn’t MM’s father a lawyer?) They gave that guy some bad advice. He witnessed a crime. You don’t go to Paterno, you go to the police.

by NC_Buckeye on Dec 22, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Arguing is fine

Dead horse beating is frowned upon. :)

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

The persecution complex knows no bounds.

"Hey Jay, what time is it?"
"9:30"
"AND IU STILL SUCKS!"

by Boiler Bandsman on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Chip Kelly isn't going to be coaching penn state

That just doesn’t make any sense. He’s got free reign in the Pac10 for years to come.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

He’s got free reign in the Pac10 for years to come until the NCAA hammers him for the “Willie Lyles thing.”.

by rogerja on Dec 22, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll believe that if it actually happens.

Auburn looks as though they’re home free.

Miami players were reinstated after ONE game

Nothing really came of the LSU thing.

I just don’t believe the NCAA will actually do something until they actually do it. Hell, it took A FUCKING YEAR for them to deal with OSU ..ffs

HELP IS ON THE WAY

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 22, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I look at it the opposite- because the NCAA got hammered, and rightfully so, for (1) acknowledging that Newton’s dad was shopping him (but somehow he didn’t shop him to Auburn); (2) inability to deal with obvious situations; and (3) letting coaches deal with accused criminals (sorry MSU fans), the NCAA is now coming out swinging against players and programs.

Unfortunately for Kelly, there’s a paper (and video) trail, so the NCAA won’t be able to bury its’ head in the sand and give Oregon a pass.

I’m almost thinking we’re seeing a setting of the NCAA’s Infractions standards, all becasue they’ve been laughed at for hammering programs for petty shit (Boise State football).

In the USC case, the evidence was kind of flimsy against Bush, because of various moves to keep information from the NCAA (gun to a deposition, anyone?), but the NCAA hammered the football program anyway, because everyone knew something untoward in the >$100K area happened. They backed off that with Auburn (though the reinstatment was handled by different staff) because of the USC case, i’d contend.

Then, after America outside of 1/2 of Alabama laughs at the NCAA, Tressel goes and committs one of the most egregious sins outside of paying for a player. America gets outraged again (helped by the piss-poor handling of things by Gee and Smith). The NCAA gets a new presidnet who says they’ll be more focused on big things, and OSU gets hammered with a unprecedented bowl ban for failure to monitor. God help UNC (academic improprieties), Miami (booster involvement on an absurd level), and South Carolina (improper benefits @$50K) with the NCAA weilding its hammer in this way.

by rogerja on Dec 22, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't it a kind of fair trade off though?

OSU played in a bowl game it should not have because of the infraction, so now they don’t get to play in a bowl game.

Boom (etal.) gets to play in two, but hey you got Meyer, right?

by MSULaxer27 on Dec 22, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll see

but I’m skeptical for now. On the bright side, the NCAA has lots of different options when it comes to deciding if they’ll show they have any fortitude.

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Dec 22, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

And. . .

Dayne Crist has decided on Kansas. Christmas comes a few days early for Badger fans.

by buckyor on Dec 22, 2011 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

I dunno...

…the B5Q guys seem bummed.

by GoAUpher on Dec 22, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Bauserman4WI

https://twitter.com/#!/SpartanKC

by Spartan D on Dec 22, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm willing to help collect petition signatures!

Maybe we could get WI to select a Bollman/Bauserman package deal.

by GoAUpher on Dec 22, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Santa, pay attention

We ALL want this for Christmas.

Show them Ohio's here.

by slidingscrapes on Dec 22, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I would personally drive to Columbus

pick them up, and drive them to Madison.

"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 22, 2011 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I've already signed all of yoru names to said petition

and mailed it in.

I hope everyone is ok with this.

HELP IS ON THE WAY

~Banned at ATO since June 3rd, 2011, 2ish PM PST

by SouthBayBuckeye on Dec 22, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

FUCK YOU

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 24, 2011 3:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Off Topic: MediaCom's ESPN description of the Las Vegas Bowl

“The Broncos failed to get a BCS berth, and the Sun Devils lost their last four games, so expect some temper flareups in this battle”

ESPN reaching new lows.

"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy

by BentNotBroken on Dec 22, 2011 7:09 PM CST reply actions  

I entirely disagree...

…reaching would imply it previously existed.

ESPN is expanding the low end of the scale to new depths never before reached.

Proud proponent of the 52 team Uber Conference

by ProveIt on Dec 24, 2011 5:34 AM CST up reply actions  

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