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Immediate Kneejerk Reaction, Conference Championship Game Edition

Russell Wilson will lead Wisconsin against Oregon in the Rose Bowl.

When the Big Ten expanded into divisions and adopted the championship game format, there was a lot of buzz about it, and rightly so. It was a seismic shift in how the Big Ten was doing business, and a lot of folks thought it was long overdue.

But then the conference's flagship program over the last decade was smacked by an NCAA investigation, after October there was no team in the conference that was a serious player for the BCS National Championship game, and although there were several very good teams, there were no great teams. Many people thought Wisconsin might, but consecutive, devastating losses to MSU and OSU ended that.

Leading up to the championship game, it didn't get a lot of attention, there was a sizeable contingent of fans that thought MSU's win over Bucky back in October was a fluke, and indoors on a neutral field this game would by a Red Rout. Accordingly, the Badgers were 9.5 point favorites at kickoff.

Yeah, all of the people who thought that can suck it. This was hands down the best conference championship game of the weekend, and one of the best games in the Big Ten this decade. Both teams took control, both teams fought back, and it came down to one play.

Sparty, no.

Star-divide

For a team that has done more than any other in recent years to reform their public image, for a team that had more heady plays in this game, and for a team that is as fundamentally sound and well coached as any in the conference...

Sparty, no.

But Michigan State didn't lose this game. Wisconsin won it. They started out by pounding Montee Ball early and often. By the end of the first quarter he had 105 yards rushing and 2 TD's and Wisconsin opened up a 21-7 lead. Ball was just gashing State, but apparently Wisconsin offensive coordinator Paul Chryst thought he was already back in Pasadena and quit using him until the fourth quarter.

But MSU came storming back, scoring 22 points in the second quarter and taking a 29-21 lead on two real heads up plays. Down 21-14 and at the Badger 10, Kirk Cousins hit Keith Nichol at the 7, who lateraled it to B.J. Cunningham, who walked in for the score. Mark 'Brass Balls' Dantonio went for two, got it, and before you know it Sparty is up 22-21, and momentum is completely on their side.

Sparty, yes?

Michigan State maintained an 8 point lead for a good part of the second half, but it was down to 3 when Wisconsin got the ball at their own with just over 8 minutes left. Russel Wilson, who was named the game's MVP, repeatedly kept plays alive, and with the Rose Bowl on the line he hit his own Hail Mary, connecting with Jeff Duckworth for 36 yards down to the MSU 7. Ball, who had been put in witness protection by Chryst, reappeared as Eric Gustafson and scored from 7 yards out.

After a Sparty punt and a Wisconsin three and out, MSU was poised to get the ball back with time on the clock, decent field position, and the most experienced quarterback in the Big Ten to lead them to a B1G title.

Oh, Sparty. No. A running into the kicker on 4th and 4 lead to a Wisconsin first down. Wilson kneeled down, ran out the clock, and Wisky is your B1G champion.

And no, it wasn't a bullshit call. Should Brad Nortman get an Academy Award nomination for his flop job? Sure, but it was a good call by the official. MSU ran into the punter, AND IT'S THE ONE THING YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT DO IN THAT SITUATION. You don't go for the block under any circumstances. Make sure the punt gets off clean and there's no fake, then get your ass back downfield and block. You're taught that starting in Pee Wee football.

But Sparty ran into the kicker. Legitimately, absolutely, ran into the kicker. I thought the officials called a very good game overall, and this was an easy call.

Sparty, no.

So Wisconsin goes to the Rose Bowl to face Oregaon, who has been whipped in consecutive BCS bowls by Ohio State and Auburn. Don't be that guy, Bucky. You know what I mean. Run Montee Ball against that small Oregon defensive line until they throw up, then run him until HE throws up.

And then run him some more.

For Sparty, this was a Chutes and Ladders game for them. Win and they climb the ladder to the Rose Bowl. Lose, and ride a chute way, way, way down to possibly the Insight Bowl, and Michigan will move ahead of them and get the second at-large BCS berth for the conference. At least that's what conventional wisdom is saying.

Of course, conventional wisdom also said that Wisky would walk all over MSU in a rematch, and that wasn't the case. Personally, this game showed to me that these were the two best teams in the conference, but will both of them get a BCS game? According to the BCS guru and his projections (which interestingly have Oklahoma State vaulting past Alabama):

Wisconsin, yes.

Sparty, no.

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very very very bitter pill to swallow.

I don’t know going to Outback is better than Insight or WTFbowl.com bowl game. This hurts deep right now but I am proud with the way the program is headed after 5 yrs of Dantonio’s hire. I did not see them as a 10-3 team at the start of the season. Hopefully, we can get back to this game in 2012.
Easy to say but losing all those seniors plus Cousins will be a tough loss. One thing we all Spartans do agree upon is FUCK MICHIGAN!
FUCK Dennard for Heisman campaigns in September!
The real Heisman is not Montee, but Russell Wilson. If not for him we are in the Rose Bowl.
Congratulations Badgers! It is one of those games which will go down as a great game except for the result for MSU fans.

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 1:24 AM CST reply actions  

Sparty NO!

Ugh. Sparty outplayed Wiscy right down to what should have been 1st and goal going in for the W. And it all gets wiped away by a penalty that shouldn’t even really exist (roughing into the kicker makes sense, running into the kicker is stupid. That would be like having a ‘running into the quarterback penalty’.

This is football. You shouldn’t punish incidental contact.

That said, Dantonio should not have gone for the block there. In a game where he made the right call almost every time, he didn’t do it when they needed it.

That really sucks. And then Mich State got effed out of the Cap One bowl on top of that? Disgusting.

by AhliBobwa on Dec 5, 2011 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice, well said.

Rec.

"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 4, 2011 1:29 AM CST up reply actions  

u are right..but I am just taking this loss too hard right now.

I can’t believe a year where we beat UM, OSU, Iowa, Wisc (once) and with a 7-1 big ten record we are not goin to a Rose Bowl. A 9-3 Zook team made it to Rose damn it.

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 1:32 AM CST up reply actions  

and a 10-2 UM team gets the BCS nod.

Life is not fair, but mama said when is it fair?
Old system we are going to Rose Bowl.
Cousins, BJ Cunningham, Keyshawn Martin-all two star recruits!Great recruiting by Dantonio and his staff.

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

2 stars? Didn't realize that.

Great recruiting, and an even better coaching job.

by airfigaro on Dec 4, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Ironically

Under the old format with no CCG, you guys are going.

"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 4, 2011 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

same with last season

Last season, in the format that the B1G used since the 50’s (when 2+ teams tied & no head-to-head tiebreaker, team who has longest RB drought goes), we were also in Rose Bowl, but that rule got changed to BCS ranking heading into the final season in which a tie is possible.

So back to back.

by MSUDersh on Dec 4, 2011 12:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Well said and congrats to Wisconsin

It’s going to take a while to get over this one but I’m real proud of the level we played at. It’s a young team overall so I expect to see us back here competing for Big Ten titles in the near future.

by Stones1981 on Dec 4, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

You are correct

This game showed that these are the two best teams in the conference, and that the Badgers are, by a very small margin, the best team. Had the Spartans managed to come back and win in the last minute, I’d have said that they were the best team, by a very small margin.

Helluva game, as Teddy Greenstein tweeted, an instant classic.

by buckyor on Dec 4, 2011 1:30 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Instant classic right up until the end.

For as good as that game was – and it was awesome – the ending sucked.

Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.

by CarolinaHawk on Dec 4, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Hell of a game.

Congrats, Wisconsin. We made a lot of huge plays, you guys just made one more.

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by SpartanDan on Dec 4, 2011 1:36 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

That game was awesome

Even though I disliked the outcome, it was absolutely the best college football game played today. It might have been one of the best games played this year — I mean, maybe second to the ND/UM game for sheer excitement.

Seriously, there was never any moment in that game were I thought either team looked for sure like they were going to win.

So congrats to the Badgers. PLEASE win the Rose Bowl!

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by jhitts08 on Dec 4, 2011 1:37 AM CST reply actions  

Great big ten championship game! Congrats to Wisconsin!

by 91bigten on Dec 4, 2011 2:10 AM CST reply actions  

UHHHH it hurts real bad

i feal like MSU had it but congrats WISC you got it win the rose bowl for us

by chuggingspartan on Dec 4, 2011 2:20 AM CST reply actions  

This was a great game that had a very deflating ending (and I’m saying this without a dog in the fight). It was like watching the final episode of the Sopranos, where you ask, “wait, that’s how it ends?!?”

It would have been a lot more satisfying had it ended another way (regardless of the winner), but I guess that’s how the cookie crumbles.

by Estrada on Dec 4, 2011 3:32 AM CST reply actions  

Great game all around

Even though it didn’t end the way I wanted it to, that was the best football game I’ve ever been to. I lost my voice in the second quarter, and STILL don’t have it back.

Congrats to the Big Ten for putting on an awesome show. Indy is a great venue for this. I’ve never been in an environment like that before, and I have to say, the championship game is a fantastic addition to the Big Ten season.

Congrats to the Spartans for playing a helluva season, getting to Indy, and losing with class and dignity in a hard fought game.

Above all, congrats to the Badgers. They deserved this one. Good luck in Pasadena!

by alvion on Dec 4, 2011 8:09 AM CST reply actions  

alvion

since you were at the game (or anyone else that was), was it just me, my TV, or the Lone Stars that made it sound like MSU fans were louder than Wisc?? It seemed like the noise had a more negative effect on Wisc. than MSU. I was surprised bc I figured UW would travel better. Great game and really like this new conference format.

by Texas Gopher on Dec 4, 2011 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

hard to say

Since we were on one half, and they were on the other, so OBVIOUSLY we seemed louder to me.

But, objectively, I would say that they quieted down in the second quarter and weren’t really that into it for much of the game, until the fourth quarter. Good group in general though, I only ran into a couple assholes.

At the end of the game, both teams were going nuts. Almost the entire MSU section was on their feet almost the whole game. The environment was electrifying! Will never forget that game, for better or worse.

by alvion on Dec 4, 2011 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks Alvion

hope you end a great season with a bowl win.

by Texas Gopher on Dec 4, 2011 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Spartan fans were louder, no doubt

My buddy and I grabbed tickets off Stubhub on Thursday and ended up in the upper level closer to the MSU end. I’d say the Spartan fans definitely made more noise overall though it was pretty equal toward the end. And for the last three minutes of gametime everyone was in full OMG WTF mode.

This was easily one the best games I’ve seen and for the most part every fan we met was awesome. We managed to out-think ourselves with respect to the time change and showed up an hour early but that gave us the chance to roam the concourse. I was a Northwestern fan of a whole set. Every Sparty fan I met was cool save for one, but unfortunately that brah was sitting directly behind me. At halftime we moved over a section and sat between a couple of older Nebraska fans and a pair of recent MSU grads. I only saw a few heated exchanges during the day and I hope that was most people’s experience.

I’ve got to say downtown Indianapolis was great. Although my father’s from IN I’d only been to Indy once and that was on the way back from Nashville after the 2003 Music City Bowl. I can’t say I was impressed then, but yesterday was totally a different experience. We tried so many different Indiana beers, all excellent, and the entire DT area was electric. It seemed like every place we stopped at was full of B1G football fans and it was awesome. I used to be Team Chicago for the Championship Game but I have been converted. Now if we can only do something about the boring-ass drive through Illinois.

by wallrock on Dec 4, 2011 10:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting that

there were Nebraska fans there.

Of course it would be mostly UW and MSU fans, but I’m curious now, did you see much or any of the other contingents in the B1G there?

by Dan TrueBlue on Dec 4, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I saw everyone but Northwestern at the stadium.

There were a lot of Michigan fans around as well as Nebraska fans. I also saw quite a few Indiana, Purdue and even Notre Dame fans in attendance and I got to talk to a few Hoosiers in my row during halftime. I saw around five or so Illinois fans, 10 PSU fans and probably 15 OSU fans. Iowa seemed well represented – I saw at least 50 fans wearing Iowa colors and we’ve passed at least six cars full of Hawkeyes this morning on I-74. I only saw one lone Gopher fan in the concourse and he didn’t seem to share my excitement that he was there. I even saw one Alabama fam holding court, telling a group of red and green all about ESS-EEE-SEE speed.

by wallrock on Dec 4, 2011 11:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Is that because the ticket holders hadn't made it there yet?

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Dec 5, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Not in any way relevant

still gets an automatic rec

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 5, 2011 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, but up to indy

It was a great environment. We we’re bar crawling before the game, had a hotel room in the Marriott just a few blocks from the stadium. I have to say, the Big Ten did a great job all around. I definitely tihnk they made the right decision picking indy.

Looking forward to coming back next year!

by alvion on Dec 4, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

My blood pressure still isn't back to normal.

Congrats to MSU on a great game and season, I think you should get the BCS bowl over UM and I will be pulling for you wherever you end up. That game certainly set the standard for the B1G CGs and will be talked about for a long time.

Chryst please, please, please, please call a good game in the Rose Bowl, if you do that I really like our chances of winning.

by Wisfan on Dec 4, 2011 8:51 AM CST reply actions  

Real high bar to clear, that.

But it probably will be for some time.

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by SpartanDan on Dec 4, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Say it with me

“Its hard to beat a team twice” and enjoy your non-BCS game. Next time don’t lay an egg in Nebraska, and in South Bend… Basically act like a typical Sparty team. Sorry couldn’t resist… My brother got far worse text messages after filling up my inbox with the whole 4 in a row crap…

by cokolman on Dec 4, 2011 10:16 AM CST reply actions  

If you are a smart man.

you will realize the BCS does not go for the best teams rather teams that are more popular.This has nothing to with football and merit. Everyone knows it accept, people in AA.
Michigan’s back!! start shouting for 2012.
Next year make it the whole 5 in a row crap…

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

It would be really unfair if MSU went to a BCS bowl...

Since they’ll probably fall out of the top 14 and be ineligible according to the system. There’d be several eligible teams above them who would be shunted aside, and would have a legitimate complaint. Take UM out of it: There are other teams whose body of work qualifies them for selection by the BCS. Who would Sparty replace? Baylor? Kansas State? Boise State? Virginia Tech? We know Sparty is better than those teams just as we knew that OSU was better than Florida in 2006/2007, and UM better than USC. Oh, wait….

I’ll be the first to admit that Michigan doesn’t “deserve” a BCS game, except as a result of its “brand.” The system sucks. We should change it. I like an 8 team tournament with the first two round at the higher seeds’ stadiums. No team that didn’t win its conference gets a home game. Make strength of schedule a bigger factor in the rating and seeding, so we get more good interconference games.

But the first two commentators on this thread seem to care more as much about resenting Michigan’s good luck, than they do about their own teams. I think it’s an unfortunate way to go through life, but I’m kind of enjoying it.

by patrickdolan on Dec 4, 2011 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

Two other things....

It was a hell of a game. And what Cousins said about his teammate’s mistake was pretty classy.

by patrickdolan on Dec 4, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

enjoy your luck cause you are not getting 8 games at home next year.

6 home games for you. And yeah Willy Gholston is waiting for act II at the big house to whip the ‘lucky’ team.

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I agree....

And if Gholston is convicted of assault, he’ll play too. Remember Glenn Winston?

See you in Ann Arbor. If MIchigan wins, I assume you’ll blow it off and say it was luck, or as several MSU players said after the game last night, “Well they won, but we feel we’re the better team.” (Young men say things like that when they’re heartbroken. Fans should be smarter.) I’m on record, in print, as saying MSU was a better football team than UM this year, because they won the game. If they went to a BCS bowl, I wouldn’t bitch about it, they deserve a good bowl. (Especially if they got Alabama again. Saban vs. MSU in a rematch of last year. That would be kind of cool, yes?)

by patrickdolan on Dec 4, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

That's an interesting play on words.

Where is the Outback Bowl played at again?

by Booxah on Dec 4, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

That 24 years without a Rose Bowl pretty much defines “irrelevance.”

by patrickdolan on Dec 4, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

No

No it’s not. But Michigan has been, so we’ll just have to live with it.

by patrickdolan on Dec 4, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

BCS is Bowl Corrupt System.

UM has a bigger fan following and TV audiences. It is a reality show for popularity and hence UM will get it. It is not up to talent.I am still not over the Saban mugging from last year but I do hope they put one down on you in Cowboys Stadium. MSU is building for the future and It will take years to polish the dirt from Muddy Waters, Bobby Williams, John L Smith, Saban and Perles era. We will be a force to reckon and we get OSU, Nebraska, Iowa, NW at home next year.
And if Gholston is convicted of assault, he’ll play too. Innocent until proven guilty.
It will be like Daryl Stonum who will be back playing for Um in 2012. Do not pretend that your football program is holy. The one thing I cant stand is the ideological superiority of scUM fans. Give me a break!

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I think a one year suspension is about right for a second offense OWI

I’d probably have tossed him, but anybody paying me to coach college football would be wasting their money.

What do you think is right for a second offense assault?

All college players are young men and young men do stupid shit. To suggest that one program has more character than another based on your rooting interests is stupid. Le’t leave that for the Notre Dame fans, eh?

by patrickdolan on Dec 4, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Did I miss something about Gholston?

Serious question, this is the first time I’ve heard anything about it.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 4, 2011 8:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

They're rehashing MSU-UW from October.

Gholston played hard and clean in the Championship Game.

by brooks.wesley on Dec 4, 2011 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't have a side in this fight

But I have to comment on this:

And if Gholston is convicted of assault, he’ll play too. Innocent until proven guilty.

In fact, being convicted of something is, by definition, proving guilt.

So… uh… yeah. If we’re arguing about stupid hypotheticals that don’t make sense and being assholes on the internet, let’s get our legal terminology right at the very least.

Honestly, the UM-MSU who-can-act-more-entitled-and-whiny contests make me glad I don’t live in Michigan anymore.

by TDozer on Dec 7, 2011 7:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Well said

That game is why roller coasters are so damn popular

by Bmore_spartan on Dec 4, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm proud of this team and the character they've shown

I just wish these seniors had their shot at Pasadena – even if it was against an offense that defenses in our conference are woefully unequipped to handle.

Here’s to next year. And the year after that. And the year after that.

We’re here to finish the job.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

There is only one proper response to this

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Dec 5, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Auburn beat Oregon by 3 last year....hardly a "whipping," Ted.

Oregon’s defense is better than you think.

Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.

by CarolinaHawk on Dec 4, 2011 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

You will not ruin my meme

with these things you call ‘facts’, sir.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Congratulations, Wisconsin

You’re equal to Michigan State. You won at the right time, though, so that earns you a second consecutive opportunity to get beaten in Pasadena.

Russell Wilson – by all accounts, a quality guy – is the best game manager I’ve ever seen at Wisconsin, but he’s no Heisman finalist. He’s not even a Heisman contender. As I’ve said all year, that team lives and dies with Montee Ball – he deserves all the accolades. But that defense…good luck with the blur. They’ll surely need it.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

Not really

It took one hail mary for Michigan State to beat Wisconsin.

It took two hail maries, and an awful punt-block decision, for Wisconsin to beat Michigan State.

I think I can safely say the better team won the first meeting and lost the second one. Every other fan can choose to believe whatever they want to.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

"The better team lost"

About the level of class I’d expect from you.

The better team doesn’t run into a punter with the game on the line.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 4, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

So the better team won with two prayers answered and needed a stupid penalty to ice it?

Again, believe what you will. I’ll believe what I will.

It has NOTHING to do with ‘class’. It has to do with honesty. And honestly, I believe Michigan State is better than Wisconsin. That doesn’t make me an ass, that makes me honest in my assessment of the teams. However, Wisconsin won the right game, so they get to go to Pasadena. Did I not cover this already?

Congratulations.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Michigan State won with a hail mary at home.
Wisconsin won with a hail mary on a neutral site.

What do you think would happen at Camp Randall? I’m guessing a Wisconsin win without the need for a hail mary.

But you can hang onto your deluded belief that MSU is the “better team” while you play in yet another non-BCS bowl. Try not to lose by 40 this time.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 4, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Who's the classy one now?

Good luck in the Rose Bowl. Keep the game within 30, please – at least this time, the conference won’t have to bear the brunt of having their Rose Bowl representative humiliated by a non-AQ team.

Gee, this can go both ways, can’t it? Take your trip to Pasadena and smile.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

"Humiliated by a non-AQ team" = losing by 2 to the undefeated #3 team in the country

Great logic buddy.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 4, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

You lost by 40 to "the single most talented non-BCS roster"

We lost by 2 to the third-best team in the country.

…….Which one was humiliated again?

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 4, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

My "dream-land" = looking at what REALLY happened

Your “real world” = pretending you know what would happen if 2 teams that didn’t meet actually played.

If we’re playing the “what if” game……TCU and Wisconsin wouldn’t have lost by 40.

Stay butt-hurt, my friend.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 4, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Again, as much as you may like to believe

I am not butthurt. I’m simply bewildered as to how naive you are.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

And it was two hail maries on a neutral site, thanks

You got ’em both back at the right time. Congratulations.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

So the better team won with two prayers answered and needed a stupid penalty to ice it?

So in the first game, “the better team” needed a prayer answered and the refs throwing zero flags all game to ice it?

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 4, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Believe whatever you want to believe

And I’ll believe what I want to believe.

Season total: MSU – 76: UW – 73

These are two closely matched teams.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think the "Better Team" line can be used

when you win by a hail mary. You are literally throwing up a prayer. Almost equal to luck, but I guess that would make you a Michigan fan, if it was only luck. Both games were good, and both games were won by luck=Michigan St, and bad coaching=Michigan St.(for a Wisconsin win)

by Booxah on Dec 4, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

So was Wisky's hail mary last night lucky?

Just asking.

Personally, I would pay to see a 7 game series.

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by Spartan D on Dec 4, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

The lob that Wisconsin caught late was lucky

And the sad thing is, I think Michigan St would shut Oregon down. I think their defense is that good. I think you have a horrible coach who is coaching with anger, and not intelligence if that makes sense.

by Booxah on Dec 4, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

That was the second hail mary

And it was about 15 yards further downfield, and far more lollipopped than the Troy Smith throw.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say they were the same

That should of been a touchdown that Troy Smith threw. Wisconsin got lucky on the lob. It was very Denardish of him.

by Booxah on Dec 4, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying that it wasn't luck

but there is no perfect play in football. My point is, MSU seems extremely bitter, and sound foolish with this the better team lost stuff. We know it hurts, but drink it off if you have too.

by Booxah on Dec 4, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not allowed to believe Michigan State is better than Wisconsin?

Don’t be ridiculous. Why would I lie and say that Wisconsin clearly beat us? It was a close game between two very closely matched football teams – I just feel like the Spartans are better. But that doesn’t matter at all, because Wisconsin won the right match-up of the two. They earned their spot in Pasadena.

I don’t know how many times I can say the same thing.

by cwel87 on Dec 4, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Listen, I'm agreeing with you

I think Michigan St. is a better team than Wisconsin. I think your Coach is horrible.

by Booxah on Dec 4, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

The punt block call was bad

but he called a lot of great plays during that game

by Stones1981 on Dec 4, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The play where they let Abbrederis walk into the endzone.

No use arguing with this butt-hurt fan.

Would it shock any of you to find out he is an Eagles fan? I know, it’s surprising. They’re known for being such humble and classy people. Cwel is really ruining their reputation.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 4, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

So it's Dantonio's fault?

Look, we all knew that Sparty was gonna show up sooner or later. I thought he’d make an appearance in Iowa City, but I was wrong. He showed up last night.

That being said, I find it somewhat ironic that MSU lost – in part – due to a player taking a dive.

Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.

by CarolinaHawk on Dec 4, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

does anyone know about the fate of BCS after the contracts expire.

Big east will certainly lose their BCS bid and they should in 2013. Does SEC get more bids. Are the BCS games eliminated except for NC game?
I can’t believe Big East gets a BCS bid. the last two years were garbage. Cincinnati in 2010, UConn in 2011 and now West Virginia in 2012.

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 1:13 PM CST reply actions  

wow...some insane rumors from Austin.

No not Rick Perry asking for voting age to be increased to 21 and election date changed to Nov 12, 2012.
“SPORTSbyBROOKS: Multiple sources, including one inside UT program, told me Mack Brown will likely be forced out”

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

Texans have never been known to be rational when it comes to football

What a stupid decision that would be.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 4, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

if that happens Muschamp might go nutty bananas.

the next apparent hire moved to Florida…he might pull a Kiffin and move back.

by spartynation on Dec 4, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh God, would FLorida fans poop themselves

first Meyer to OSU, then Muschamp to Texas?

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by Ted Glover on Dec 4, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

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