Montee Ball's Heisman Candidacy, Moment by Soul-Crushing Moment
It's a lot of fun when you get a Heisman candidate from the B1G. Even though their candidacy most likely came at the expense of your team, most of the ire you felt towards the candidate is probably gone come Bowl Season. So we'll take a quick look at Montee Ball, the Wisconsin RB who is projected to finished 4th in the Heisman voting. I asked our writers - What did Montee Ball do to your team this year? Note: Montee Ball did not play against Michigan in 2011, but I watched him in East Lansing during the Hail Sparty game and Jesus - Ball was ridiculous. His body control, balance, and quickness remind me a sports car weaving through cones on a test track. The 25 lb. offseason weight loss turned Ball into a more versatile back. Sure, he can push a pile at 206 lbs, but his improved swerving and juking were something to behold. I tip my cap to someone who turned himself into "The Next Great Wisconsin Running Back."
Bonus Question - If Wisky goes 13-0 or 12-1, who gets the Heisman Credit, Russel Wilson or Ball? Intriguing...
THE START - by KennardHusker
Remember when Nebraska was a Top 10 team and a fringe sleeper for the BCS National Championship? Me neither... Still, if you believe talking heads on the WWL (most of you don't), that was the case when Nebraska traveled to Camp Randall to face Bucky. While most of the credit for the absolute pounding Wisconsin gave Nebraska was given to Wilson, the numbers suggest otherwise. Montee Ball ran for 151 yards, hit paydirt 4 times, and did all of this without registering a run longer than 15 yards. Basically, he beat Nebraska into submission over and over and over and over and just for good measure, over again.
I honestly don't know the last time Nebraska gave up 4 rushing TDs to one person. I tried finding that statistic, but it isn't readily available. I know it hasn't happened in the last three years. That was just amazing.
THE HICCUP - by Jon Franz
Who is this Montee Ball you speak of? I vaguely remember a Wisconsin tailback of that name getting repeatedly stuffed by Ohio State's massive defensive tackles, but that can't be the same Ball that's headed to the Big Apple. I thought that guy was someone's backup. Surely, the Heisman trust has made a terrible mistake.
:)
THE STATISTICAL DOMINANCE - by JDMill
What did Montee Ball do to help Wisconsin beat the Gophers? Well, truthfully, Ball could have sat on the bench and the Gophers wouldn't have won that game, but that isn't what this piece is about, so...
All Ball did against the Gophers was rush for 166 yards, a 7.2 yards/carry average, 2 TD's and 1 TD reception. But what the stats don't show you is how Ball demoralized the Gophers in the first quarter of the game. Ball had 60 yds rushing, 5 yds recieving, a TD run and a TD catch before the 1st quarter even ended.
Then, with very little time left in the first quarter, he peeled off a 29 yard scamper which got Wisconsin into the red zone, resulting in a TD on the first play of the 2nd quarter. Ball scored the first two TD's of the game for the Badgers, then had the key play on their 3rd TD drive.
The Gophers were never in the game, and Montee Ball played a huge roll in that.
THE MONSTER GAME - by Paterno Ave
Took a little while to un-black-out that game, but here goes:
There were a lot of reasons that Penn State was dominated by Wisconsin for the Leaders Division bid: Russell Wilson, turnovers, penalties, and Jared Abrrederis (seriously where did that guy come from), but Montee Ball was the most commanding part of the Badgers' performance that night. His four touchdowns were the most the top-10 total, top-5 scoring Penn State Defense has given up to any one running back this season, doubling what Trent Richardson was able to manage.
I'd consider an 8 p.m. Thanksgiving weekend night game, Big Ten semifinal to be the kind of "Heisman Moment" that voters look for, and on that night the guy delivered an outstanding game.
I thought his showing was the most impressive I have seen against Penn State in the last decade, and looking at that night alone he seemed to easily outclass talented past B1G adversaries such as Beanie Wells or Javon Ringer. The guy provided the tying and go-ahead touchdowns early. As the night went on, though, it was his relentless gains while the Penn State Offense could not get on the field that put the game out of reach and broke any morale the Nittany Lions may have been able to rally in Madison.
THE SPARTAN SAGA - by MSULaxer
Would I or any other MSU fan rather had our defense lined up against James White than Montee Ball during our two matchups? Most assuredly.
THE STOLEN HEISMAN HYPE - by Chadnudj
Montee Ball did not play Northwestern this year, but if he had, I'm fairly certain he would have imposed his will to the tune of 200+ yards rushing and 3 TDs. No, the impact that Montee Ball had on Northwestern was making the "Persa for Heisman" campaign look all the more ridiculous in retrospect.
Look, I supported Persa for Heisman (even with the injury, he was easily our best returning starter since Damien Anderson), I still think it worked out well for Northwestern (it did get people talking about our team in the middle of the summer, and probably helped sell some tickets), and in all honestly, looking at conference games only, Persa had a VERY impressive year -- he was first in total passing yards (1791 yards), completions (168), and completion percentage (73.7); second in passing efficiency (154.1, behind Russell Wilson's absurd 179.2) and total offense (232.8 ypg, behind Denard's 255.4); and 3rd in passing TDs (13, tied with Vandenberg behind Wilson with 17 and Cousins with 16). Clearly a solid season (the defense is why Northwestern is 6-6, not Persa).
Montee Ball....demonstrating the extreme type of excellence that justifies (both before and after the fact) a Heisman campaign.
But good lord....those numbers don't even compare to the monster season Montee Ball has had running the ball this year. I mean, in conference games alone, Montee Ball scored 24 TDs. That's more than ANY QB passed for in conference this year....by 7 TDs. And that's over TWICE as many TDs as any other player scored running or receiving this year in conference (Coker and Denard Robinson each had 11 TDs). He scored 18.2 ppg in conference BY HIMSELF. That means, in terms of scoring based on conference games alone, Montee Ball would have been selected in an imaginary points per game based fantasy draft AHEAD OF THREE ENTIRE TEAMS: Illinois (18.1 ppg), Penn State (17.1 ppg), and Minnesota (16.2 ppg).
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Clarification
What i meant above was that I supported the idea of a “Persa for Heisman”campaign when they announced it this summer.
By no means whatsoever do I mean to imply that I believe Persa currently deserves a Heisman….he had a good year, but nothing resembling the Heisman campaigns delivered by the five finalists.
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by Graham Filler on Dec 8, 2011 8:36 AM CST up reply actions
Coincidentally...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 8, 2011 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
RG3! RG3! RG3!
And how the heck did The Honey Badger make his way into the finalists? Spot on the best team in the country aside, it felt rather out of the blue…
It’s a shame for Ball that this wasn’t a situation like 2 years ago when Ingram won because of a weak field. This year’s field isn’t particularly impressive overall, but RG3 lit it up. My ballot would be RG3, Ball, Luck, Richardson, and then Mathieu is a distant distant 5th.
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by 06Lion on Dec 8, 2011 9:25 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
There's something about Ball
that just doesn’t pass the eyeball test with me, in terms of a Heisman winner. That’s not to diminish his gaudy numbers or his potential as a pro, but nothing about his games have really stood out for me on an individual performance. I just think of it as “Wow, Wisconsin has a great rushing attack.” Not so much “Wow, Ball is unstoppable.”
Having RG3 win would be great in terms of bring legitimacy back to the award, I think. So many years they have just handed the award to the best player on the best team. Actually singling out a star athlete on an above average team would be something special.
by rzor on Dec 8, 2011 9:33 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Lack of Heisman Moments
The TD record is great, but I like what you’re saying about the eyeball test. Ball is a punishing runner, but he really hasn’t done too much to say, “wow, that’s the greatest runner I’ve seen.” I like Ball, but I don’t stop everything I’m doing to watch Ball. I hate to admit that Richardson makes me stop to watch (same with Honey Badger). That’s why RG3 deserves it in my opinion. The guy put up gaudy stats this year with very little help and with no established love from the media until late. He played against some stellar defenses and has signature ‘takes your breath away’ moments. I hope he wins. He deserves it. I plan on boycotting something if Luck manages to take it home.
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by KennardHusker on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I generally agree with this,
but if there’s an “overwhelming” thing that sticks out to me about Ball’s season this year it has to be the fact that as soon as the Badgers were inside the 10 yard line, regardless of the opponent, you knew that Ball would be flipping the football to the ref in the end zone soon. Granted, short-yardage, bust-through-the-line TDs don’t make Sportscenter’s Top Ten many nights, but man, UW in the red zone was crazy effective this year, and Montee was a major part of that.
Case in point – the B1G Championship last Saturday, 2nd half, MSU had apparently figured out UW’s run game and Ball was getting nothing. Then Duckworth caught the Hail Mary, UW’s in scoring range, and… /hit Montee’s SCORE switch to ON/, 7 yard TD, boom! That run was impressive, MSU had to be expecting that, and no one touched him.
by PeoriaBucky on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This example is perhaps
a great way to summarize the debate AGAINST Ball. Was the score completed because of Ball’s talents, or because Wisconsin has such a talented offensive line? Going into the endzone untouched is usually a mark of superior blocking and scheme, rather than individual effort. There’s an argument for either or both and there’s the rub, I think.
This isn’t to say anyone could waltz into the endzone behind that line. Ball takes a good rushing attack and makes it great, but this award is as much about comparisons as anything else. RG3 has taken just another Baylor team and made them win, while also displaying some extraordinary skills.
by rzor on Dec 8, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Considering what happened to UW's running game this year when James White spelled Ball, I think Montee can make a case for his excellence.
Last year’s Badger running game was awe-inspiring. This year’s Badger running game worked near peak only when Montee was toting the rock.
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by Bob Genghiskhan on Dec 8, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Ball is very good.
But give credit to those big white scandinavian boys of Wisconsin offensive line. They are good every year. I wish MSU had that every year!!!
Having said that..truly exciting player RG3.
Ball is excellent
But I feel like he’s replaceable. I mean, not entirely replaceable but there are plenty of people who can run behind Wisconsin’s offensive line. Same goes for Alabama’s. I think RG3 is not someone who is replaceable, is the best player on the team/conference and is flat out an amazing player worthy of the trophy.
The day any of you walk into Baylor and make that a winning team
Is the day you deserve the heisman trophy.
RG3 is my vote.
by Fake Pelini on Dec 8, 2011 10:34 AM CST via mobile reply actions 6 recs
valid point
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by Graham Filler on Dec 8, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
Can you imagine an RG3 on Wisconsin, Michigan, or Ohio State?
Hell, any team with a semblance of a defense. He would literally be a runaway vote this year. I think that’s what makes him so fun to watch. You know, that and a ridiculous arm and speed even the ESSSSSSS EEEEEEEEE SEEEEEEEEEEE SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED enthusiasts would be jealous of.
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by KennardHusker on Dec 8, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
See, I don't really see Griffin as immensely better than Russell Wilson.
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by Bob Genghiskhan on Dec 8, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
/Baylor loses to 6-6 Illinois
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 8, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, intriguing bonus question, Graham
I think if Wisky goes undefeated, and WIlson had the numbers he has, you’d think he would be the guy going to New York instead of Montee Ball. This is in no way a slam on Ball, but Wisky’s reputation is that they always have monster backs running behind huge lines…but that never really got them over the hump in terms of being a perennial B1G title contender, much less a National Championship contender-type team.
An undefeated Wisconsin means that it was primarily the addition of Wilson that would’ve changed that paradigm, and he had Heisman- like numbers. Not as good as Ball, but when you consider that this is essentially become the ‘Best QB On An AQ Team That Is On The Short List For A BCS Title Game Bid’, as opposed to the best player in the game, then I think Wilson gets the nod.
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by Ted Glover on Dec 8, 2011 11:54 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I probably agree, good sir
Nice new tagline there Urban
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by Graham Filler on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks!
Only good sports news I’ve had since October. Vikes suck ass and are getting closer to moving, Pujols is now with the Angels, and OSU lost to Michigan.
Gonna be a long, cold winter if OSU loses to Florida in the .500 bowl.
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Why is Denard Robinson not getting ANY consideration?
Oh, wait.. It’s December. I forgot.
(sorry, couldn’t pass up taking a shot at Michigan)
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 8, 2011 1:42 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
That's good!
…gotta hand it to you on that one. Funny.
But I do think DRob would at least be considered at some level if it wasn’t for all the INTs. By that, I mean…his arm was slowly getting better, and his run yardage was not close to what it was last year, but he did do a much better job of LEADING the UM offense this year as opposed to just getting the most yards like he did last year.
Even without the INTs, I still don’t think he would deserve it, mind you…just predicting what it would take for him to have stayed in the conversation beyond September. haha…
I mean, if he could have played your defense every week...
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by Alex Cook on Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
kudos OTE!
This column was a great idea. If there is another candidate next year, do it again.
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