B1G 2011 // The OTE Potluck: Indiana Hoosier-style
Potlucks and football -- that's what the Midwest DOES!
This being Thursday, it's time for a little segment we like to call the OTE Potluck. Like any good Midwest potluck, you have multiple courses (5 questions about the Big Ten Team of the Week), with each course being supplied by a different potluck attendee (your friendly OTE writers). Sometimes, multiple writers will answer one of the questions (i.e. those awesome potlucks where two people sign up for appetizers and you get deviled eggs AND pigs in a blanket), while other times one writer will suffice (i.e. there's never a need for multiple salads in any good Midwest potluck....unless you're talking about adding a jello salad to the mix. Never pass up a good jello salad, the salad that's frankly a dessert!).
This week's potluck is Hoosier-style, as everyone brings a dish to share in Bloomington....

Indiana's Adam Replogle tries to rush through an egregious hold and Nathan Scheelhaase to make his way to the delicious food at the OTE Potluck (AP Photo/Seth Perlman)
1. Appetizer: If you could take one player from Indiana's roster and place him on your favorite team, who would you choose? Or, alternatively, who do you think is Indiana's most dangerous player?
- Ted Glover: I'll take WR Demarlo Belcher to answer both questions. He doesn't get a lot of press, but he could make the starting 11 on any B1G roster. He has a significant height advantage over any opposing CB in the conference, has the speed to go beat anyone deep, and save for a potential game winning drop against Iowa, has hands that catch just about anything thrown his way. Belcher is a big time player on an offense that has more questions than answers, and will be looked at to lead this offense throughout 2011.
- Chadnudj: Considering the fact that my team (Northwestern) needs defensive help, and that I've not yet seen a NU defensive end that can hold down the side opposite of Vince Browne to increase pressure on the QB, I'm stealing Indiana's Adam Replogle. Replogle recorded 32 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, two sacks and three quarterback hurries last season, and will be a junior in 2011, meaning I get him for my hypothetical NU team for (hopefully) two more seasons. Indiana's defensive staff moved him around between DT and DE last season (both areas of weakness on NU's defense), so if new defensive coordinators Doug Mallory and Mike Ekeler can deploy him where he's most effective, he could blossom into a Ryan Kerrigan-esque one-man wrecking crew for what has been a weak Indiana defense. Plus, he was an Academic All-Big Ten selection, so I figure he'd fit in well with the Fighting Fitzgeralds....
2. Salad: True or false -- Indiana made a huge mistake hiring Kevin Wilson, because their problems lie on the defensive side of the ball, and Wilson's offensive pedigree doesn't help them there at all. Discuss.
- JDMill: Well, isn’t this the perfect potluck question? It’s tailor-made to allow a lot of good-natured banter about the topic, without requiring a definitive answer. Having said that, even though it doesn’t require a definitive answer, there is one, and that answer is False – Indiana did not make a huge mistake hiring Kevin Wilson.
To say they made a mistake hiring Wilson because he is an offensive mind and they need help on defense is like saying that I shouldn’t have filled my plate with desserts on my first walk through the potluck line: it’s very short-sighted. You see, I happen to know that I typically run a veritable train on the ham and potatoes early in the potluck, and eventually I end up getting too full for dessert. Taking dessert on my first plate is long-term planning that will allow me to maximize my potluck enjoyment by getting a sample of everyone’s goodies. (No fat jokes, please.)
Wilson was hired at Indiana to build a program, not transform one part of the team. He has some experience in this situation but from the other side of it, as he was hired to be the O-coordinator at Oklahoma under very defensive-minded Coach Bob Stoops. Both Wilson and his assistant coaches have the experience of being around successful programs that know how to win. Because of his offense-specific background, Wilson acknowledged very early on the need to hire a very strong defensive coordinator, and went as far as to hire two. Both Doug Mallory and Mike Ekeler have solid defensive backgrounds (coaching and playing) at big time programs like LSU, Nebraska and Michigan.
3. Potato/rice dish: What comes first -- Tom Crean gets Indiana back into the NCAA Tournament, or Kevin Wilson gets Indiana to a bowl game?
- Graham Filler: This is a spectacular question. Let's make a couple things clear:
1) It's easier to get into a bowl game than the NCAA Tourney because of the crap early season matchups that every BCS conference is afforded. Indiana will play South Carolina . . . State, North Texas, and Ball State in 2011. If Kevin Wilson puts together even a solid offseason, those turn into bunnies. Then you need to just post a 3-5 conference record (which would be easier if IU played Purdue more) and BOOM, Pizza Pizza Bowl.
2) Neither program is showing the kind of improvement needed for a post season appearance. Tom Crean is recruiting well, but developing players slowly. Indiana upgraded facilities and installed serviceable offensive minds/systems, but the athletic talent is still sooo low.
So . . . no clear answer, but a great question. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say IU Basketball makes a postseason appearance first. Couldn't you see them making a run to 18-12 with Cody Zeller and some senior leadership? I guess I have more faith in the venerated basketball program . . . than the always bottom barrel football program. And lest you argue that the law of averages says Indiana just has to get to 6 wins sometime, I leave you with a Caddyshack quote: "The world needs ditchdiggers too!" - Hilary Lee: I thought about this question, and then realized that I couldn't answer it. So, I went to experts. Or, at least, two people who pay lots of attention to Indiana sports. My friends Morgan and Mike (hi guys!) were nice enough to help me figure out the answer to this question. Of course, they too were split down the middle.
Mike cautioned me that I should never over-estimate the quality of the Indiana football team, because often they are really, really bad. But Indiana basketball has had success (even if the last few years have been rebuilding) so they are more likely to eventually return to that high. Plus, have you heard of this dude named Cody Zeller? I mean, whoa, seriously, whoa.
Morgan put the odds at either happening at just about even. While it looks like the basketball team will be better talent-wise this year (and definitelyin the 2012-2013 season) that the football team, we were able to count at least five wins for football: Ball State, South Carolina State, North Texas, Purdue, and probably Illinois. The question is -- can the Hoosiers pull out that surprise sixth win to get to the Pizza! Pizza! Bowl?
I am nothing if not an optimist, so I'm just going to say . . . I think both happen in the same year. I don't know if it's 2011 or 2012, but they will occur together. Like peanut butter and chocolate. Or mashed potatoes and gravy. [EDITOR'S QUESTION: Or like bacon and waffles, Hilary?].
4. Hot dish/Meat:Indiana has historically been the Big Ten's worst program (they even have a losing record all-time to Northwestern). Why is that? Is it recruiting? Bad coaching? An institutional focus on basketball over football? Give us your best theory.
- Bama Hawkeye: You can try those three theories. There is truth to all of them. I'll give you a better one. A Ham Baked in a Numbers Glaze.
Let's start by looking at some data from 1960. Why 1960? Two reasons: First, it was the midpoint of the twenty-year period with the greatest parity in Big Ten history. Every Big Ten team won a Big Ten title in the decade before or after 1960 (well, except for Northwestern, but they are the outlier to everything). Second, and most importantly, it was a twenty-year period in which college football began to blossom as a televised sport - increased interest from the general population. Here's the population of the Big Ten states in 1960 (and yes, I'm including Pennsylvania and Nebraska):
Pennsylvania: 11.3 Million
Illinois: 10.1 Million
Ohio: 9.7 Million
Michigan: 7.8 Million
Indiana: 4.6 Million
Wisconsin: 3.9 Million
Minnesota: 3.4 Million
Iowa: 2.7 Million
Nebraska: 1.4 Million
Now as you look at those lists, realize what schools are drawing upon that population for allegiance, donations, attendance, and most importantly, recruits. Yes, Indiana has a larger population than Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Nebraska. But each of those states share an important aspect: they only have one Division 1 caliber program within their borders (disrespect of Iowa State fully realized, intended, and justified). Indiana has three. Even if the population was evenly distributed, that would leave only 1.53 million people as Hoosiers. But, it's not divided evenly, is it? Notre Dame is the national school of the state. If a 16 year old in 1960s Indiana showed a talent for football, it meant more to play at Notre Dame than it did to go to Indiana or Purdue. It still does. Add in the Catholic identity of the school (in a state that has a larger Catholic population than national average) and Indiana is fighting for a distant second place.
Iowa, Wisconsin, and Nebraska have succeeded because they have (for the most part) kept the in-state recruits that they wanted at home, gathered some gems from more fertile recruiting areas, and hired good coaches. But let's be clear. If those three schools had two other D-1 programs splitting their in-state recruits and resources with them, they would not have been as successful. Put Notre Dame in one of those states, and that Big Ten school's history is much different, and much less celebrated. Yes, all of those schools had better coaches than anyone that Indiana has hired. But, if you put Devaney, Osborne, Fry, Evashevski, or Alvarez at Indiana, they wouldn't have won multiple conference championships there. Maybe they would have caught lightning in a bottle like John Pont did in 1967 and like Bill Mallory was so tantalizingly close to doing in 1987. But they would not have been able to fend off Notre Dame (not to mention the poachers from Columbus and Ann Arbor) and establish Indiana as a good program. There is a reason that no coach in the last sixty years has left Indiana with a winning record. History has shown that the numbers just don't add up.
5. Dessert: Share your favorite memory involving Indiana football. Bonus points if it does not involve Bill Lynch throwing his chewing gum.
- Ted Glover: In 2007, the Hoosiers took a body blow when coach Terry Hoeppner passed away from a brain tumor, but they rallied behind his mantra to "Play 13." To ensure their first bowl appearance since 1993 they needed to beat Purdue in the Old Oaken Bucket game, at home, in front of their first sellout crowd of the season.
In a wild, back-and-forth game, Indiana kicker Austin Starr lined up from the right has, 49 yards away, in a 24-24 game with 30 seconds to play. With Hoeppner's widow Jane watching from the sidelines, Starr's kick went 49 yards and six inches, barely clearing the crossbar.
Jane Hoepnner looked to Heaven for thanks, a pandemonium grenade went off on the Indiana sideline, and it was an emotional moment that makes me love college football in a way that can't be matched by any other sport.
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First off
This is why I love being from, and living in, the midwest. Nothing beats a midwest potluck…NOTHING!
This was one of the best articles I’ve ever read on OTE, and it’s about Indiana football. I can’t wait for the reat of the teams in this series, it’s gonna be awesome.
Oh, and Bama, It’s nice to see the ’let’s kick Iowa State in the junk’ just because they’re Iowa State mentality makes it’s way over here from BHGP. I love conference rallying cries!
Jacobi, Ross, can we get a sample Pollard skit?
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
agreed
I love this. Comprehensive.
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by Graham Filler on Apr 14, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
A few thoughts.
2. JDMill, as my rants in earlier threads make clear, I agree with this completely.
3. I would not be surprised either way. I do think that IU will be back in the NCAA Tournament in 2013. Can Kevin Wilson make a bowl before then? I don’t know. One thing that I do like this year is the way the home/road split works out in IU’s Big Ten schedule. Based on the 2010 standings (not that those necessarily will hold up in 2011), IU plays its toughest four Big Ten games on the road (OSU, Wisconsin, Iowa, MSU) and its “easiest” four Big Ten games at home (PSU, Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue). I don’t consider Penn State an easy game, but I do think it’s likely that even without regard to schedule, IU’s best chances for wins would be Illinois, Northwestern, and Purdue, and IU gets all of those games at home. This would be a very bad schedule for a team that hoped to win the division, but for a team that it trying to get to the postseason by any means necessary, it’s pretty favorable.
4. I agree with nearly all of these points. The population issue is a big part of it. The basketball-centric focus of the school matters quite a bit as well. A few other points:
a. IU was the last school to build a legitimate Big Ten stadium, which opened in…1960 (insert Memorial Stadium joke here). Until 1960, while schools like Illinois, OSU, Purdue, and Michigan were playing in stadiums that were pretty comparable in capacity to what they have now, IU was playing in this:

c. Also, anyone who has driven to Bloomington knows that while Highway 37 is a decent road, it isn’t interstate quality. Still, until the 1960s, there was no four-lane connection to Bloomington, and two-lane winding roads through the hills were the only way to get there. IU is about 100 miles south of Purdue, which was (still is, but not so dramatically) much more accessible to Chicago, Detroit, and other population centers.
5. As dramatic as that 2007 Bucket game was, I can barely watch it. While it was great viewing for the casual fan, keep in mind that IU was ahead 24-3 halfway through the third quarter, at home, and let Purdue back in the game and nearly blew it. I didn’t want a dramatic win. I wanted to kick their ass. The blowout win at Iowa is a much better memory from that season. My personal favorite IU game was a 1993 10-0 win over a ranked Michigan State game, which was played in the aftermath of a freak October snowstorm.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Apr 14, 2011 8:59 AM CDT reply actions
Sorry, I don’t know why that paragraph is in bold.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Apr 14, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Because you really, really meant it when you typed it?
Hey, at least you didn’t yell. :)
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
I'm not going to tell a guy what his favorite Indiana moment should be
and if I was a diehard fan of Indiana, that game would’ve driven me mad. But the 2007 Bucket game really resonated in college football circles, especially with the Hoeppner death still so raw for everyone attached to the program.. Hope you understand the reasoning on why that was my Indiana moment.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
I understand, and from the perspective of college football fans at large, it’s basically the only resonant memory of Indiana football since…1967? Ironically, IU got much more publicity for its near-choke than we would have received for a 42-10 blowout. I didn’t mean to criticize your choice or suggest that it’s wrong, but am just giving my perspective on it. Interestingly, I have a similar relationship to IU’s last great NCAA Tournament run. The most iconic moment of the last decade for IU basketball is the upset of #1 Duke in the 2002 NCAA Tournament, and I simply can’t watch the last 10 seconds, when we nearly turned a 4 point lead into a gut-wrenching loss.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Apr 14, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I know
and it wasn’t taken as criticism, and if I were in your shoes I’d feel the same way.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Maybe I should have. We are talking about WILDLY DISPROPORTIONATE HOME ROAD SPLITS, people!
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Apr 14, 2011 9:32 AM CDT reply actions
Excellent write-up
And Bama Hawkeye and John M are both right-on with their historical analyses.
Favorite IU football moment: the Darkerest Day in Ohio State history. In 1986, two years removed from an 0-11 season, Bill Mallory took a young and improving team into Columbus and beat Ohio State, shockingly, for the first time in like 35 years. Earl Bruce infamously referred to it as the “Darkest Day in Ohio State History”. The next year, Ohio State came into Bloomington and IU kicked their ass up and down the field all damn day long. Anthony Thompson ran for what seemed like 400 yards. A 15-year-old version of me was in the stands that day with my family. We had, for years, suffered multiple beat-downs by Ohio State, and (even worse) had suffered their obnoxious nut-necklace-wearing fans. That was so, so sweet.
by hoosierdaddynow on Apr 14, 2011 11:23 AM CDT reply actions
Tom Crean is recruiting well, but developing players slowly. Indiana upgraded facilities and installed serviceable offensive minds/systems, but the athletic talent is still sooo low.
The talent is not low. Their 2009 recruiting class was a top 10 class. It had 3 four stars and also Indiana Mr. Basketball Jordan Hulls. Talent is not the issue in Bloomington.
Ever Grateful. Ever True.
It was solid class, but the top 10 rating came mostly because it was a six-player class. The class included two top 100 players. One of them, Maurice Creek, has played in a whopping five Big Ten games in his first two seasons. Two others, Jordan Hulls and Derek Elston, were just outside the top 100. It was and is a solid class, but not the Fab Five by any stretch. On a team that had only four scholarship upperclassmen, only one of whom was a top 150 recruit (Verdell Jones), the idea that Crean squandered an NCAA-caliber roster last year seems a little goofy. Purdue fans have bought hard into the idea that Crean, a protege of the second-greatest Big Ten coach of all time, and who had a very good record at Marquette, is a drooling idiot.
As I pointed out before the IU-Purdue game at Mackey this past season, had D.J. Byrd been on IU’s roster that night, he would have been the highest rated recruit on the floor for IU (both Creek and Watford were injured that night). For Purdue last year, Byrd scored 5.2 points per game on 4.5 shots per game and shot 35 percent from the field. But yeah, IU was loaded.
None of that is to disagree with the idea that Crean has done a perfect job, or that IU shouldn’t have won more games last season.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Apr 14, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh. We need an edit function. Pretend that my last sentence says. “I don’t think Crean has done a perfect job, and I dfo think IU should have won more games last season.”
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Apr 14, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Not saying that class was/is the Fab 5....
But I believe IU has more talent than Iowa, NU, Penn State, Michigan, and Minnesota. Certainly enough talent to make the tournament.
Ever Grateful. Ever True.
I, for one....
…am taking the paucity of comments as a sign that we’ve answered every question any one has about Indiana football, and that everyone agrees with our assessment of Hoosier-dom.
Or...
there are as few Indiana fans on the Internet M-F as there are in Memorial Stadium on Saturdays.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
dude
IU week.
I guarantee this article blows up the world with 100+ comments for every other school. Bet me.
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by Graham Filler on Apr 14, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
Wait, does that include Illinois? If so, you’re on, barrister.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
by Ted Glover on Apr 14, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
careful
Illinois ended the season on an up note, which means there should be more out in the open this year.
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Apr 14, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
But Zook saw his shadow
which means two years of hibernation, right?
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
You're making an awful big assumption...
….namely, that Illini fans know how to read, write, and/or connect to the internet.
my bad
the bet is for every week…except illinois
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by Graham Filler on Apr 15, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe we had a Legal And Binding Internet Agreement
Based upon my agreeing to your original terms. Unless, of course, the ‘my bad’ defense is a legitimate one.
Can I get a ruling here? Anyone?
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
A Legal and Binding Internet Agreement?
Oh….a LABIA. Of course those are enforceable….though you can also pierce them and expose them.
/Middle School Humor’d
HA!
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Is it also possible that everyone saw the word “potluck” and stopped reading to head to the cafeteria?
"We're talking about unchecked aggression here, Dude."
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Concur
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
If the word potluck didn't do it
the mention of baffles certainly did.
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