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B1G 2011 // Purdue Point/Counterpoint

Every Tuesday we take to the dais to spark a point/counterpoint debate. Since the last two installments have focused on coaching competence, I thought we'd head in a slightly different direction this week.

Translation: we're heading into inflammatory waters to tackle a topic that has no answer. Still, it's a relevant question that gives us a chance to go beyond the box score.

Point: Rising passing efficiency will lead Purdue to a bowl game in 2011

Ask any Purdue fan what went wrong in 2010 and they'll point to a devastating flurry of injuries that sidelined key playmakers and forced Danny Hope to paste together a two deep that looked something like a kidnapping ransom note.  But limit the discussion to on the field performances and one damning stat stands out. Purdue ranked dead last in the Big Ten in passing completion percentage, yards per pass, pass rating, yards per game, and total passing yards.

Mind you, that's in the Big Ten, a league that ain't exactly known for passing proficiency.  But the stat gets worse when you realize that this is the same Purdue that finished first in all of the aforementioned categories as recently as 2006, second in conference as recently as 2008, and third in conference in 2009. Put another way, the Boilermakers had not finished outside of the top 3 statistical passing offenses in conference for four straight seasons before last year's aberration.

So what gives? Everyone's knee-caps. Purdue suited up for most of its games in 2010 without All-American caliber wide receiver Keith Smith, transfer quarterback a la mode Robert Marve, and star running-back Ralph Bolden. After their number two quarterback (Sean Robinson) went down with a hand injury, the Boilers were left with inexperience at the majority of skill positions.

That was then. This is now. After Danny Hope smartly stretched spring practice out to give his players more time to recover, Purdue sits primed to return a wealth of experience on the offensive side of the ball. Sure, Keith Smith was unfortunately denied a sixth year of eligibility, but the Boilers have enough veterans in place to move the needle in the air and on the ground.

Throw in a fairly accommodating early schedule, with home visits from Middle Tennessee, Southeast Missouri State and Notre Dame and a trip to Rice, and Purdue should be 3-1 entering Big Ten play. Their first conference test is a home date with Minnesota, a team that finished in the bottom 3 in the Big Ten last year in almost every defensive category that matters. Purdue wins a shootout in West Lafayette to grab the fourth win. Then things get interesting.

Star-divide

I don't think the Boilers win the second weekend in October on the road against Penn State. Nor do I think a young defensive front will handle an Illinois team whose stock is rising. But they'll get their fifth win in Ann Arbor, against a Wolverine secondary that's a Greg Mattison defense in name only. Losses at Wisconsin, against Ohio State and Iowa will kill a bit of momentum, but then there's a brilliant silver lining in the form of a season finale in Bloomington.

Think Purdue's going to be fired up to avenge last season's embarrassing loss to the Hoosiers and grab a season saving sixth win in the finale? You better believe it.

A 6-6 record gets Danny Hope to the postseason, the ultimate benchmark for a struggling program.

Counterpoint: Purdue's passing attack is a paper tiger, and injuries will lead to another bowless season

Fact: In four years of college football Robert Marve has played in just 15 games, so counting on him to make it through an entire season in tact is like counting on Lindsay Lohan to stay out of trouble.

Another fact: Running back Ralph Bolden's status for the fall is still entirely undetermined.

Sure, Rob Henry gives Purdue a little insurance behind center, but an uncertain ground game will haunt the Boilermakers again in 2011.

Purdue will drop at least one home game they should win when their rushing attack gets stuffed and they try to force things through the air. No one doubts that Tim Brewster left Minnesota with talent on both sides of the ball, and the Golden Gophers notch their first signature win of the Jerry Kill era in West Lafayette.

Even if Purdue makes it into November on track, there's still no guarantee that six wins gets them a coveted spot in the postseason. Try as I might, I just can't find a seventh win, and questionable in-game coaching might make six wins unattainable.

Hope sinks, and Purdue fans start looking forward to basketball season a month ahead of schedule.

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This week...

MONDAY | Purdue Cocktail Party Preview

TUESDAY | Point/Counterpoint

WEDNESDAY | 4th and 3

THURSDAY | OTE Potluck

FRIDAY | Keeping the Enemy Close - Rival Blogger Interview

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Justin Siller was ahead of Sean Robinson and Rob Henry on the QB depth chart...

But he went down with a foot injury right after Marve went down.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Apr 26, 2011 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't forget Caleb Terbush

We lost our #2 QB Terbush for academic reasons too, so we were down to our 4/5 QB

by Ben Griscom on Apr 26, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't play football without knees

Silly, silly Boilermakers…

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by Ted Glover on Apr 26, 2011 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

If Henry is QB this year Purdue will be running a lot again with the read option. So even if everyone stays healthy I wouldn’t expect to see Purdue at the top of the passing stats lists this season.

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by PurdueMatt on Apr 26, 2011 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

no way

that’s amazing

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by Graham Filler on Apr 26, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like it...

…but can’t we run the off-tackle sweep into the South, ala General Sherman? That’s where our conquering Big Ten football team/armies hope to march, at least…

by Chadnudj on Apr 26, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking....

…of just flipping the play upside down to run south on the SEC….but this is spectacular, too….

by Chadnudj on Apr 26, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's friggin sweet

I vote for that as the new artwork

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by Ted Glover on Apr 26, 2011 11:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

/seconds

"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy

by BentNotBroken on Apr 26, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is lovely.

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by RossWB on Apr 26, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, Keith Smith was unfortunately denied a sixth year of eligibility

So Robbie Hummel could have a 6th year of eligibility… Pathetic, Purdue.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 26, 2011 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

will he purple shirt this year?

HELP IS ON THE WAY

http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on Apr 26, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he'll tear an ACL

like everyone at Purdue does.

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by Ted Glover on Apr 26, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

neither is Anthony Thomas

I swear he was a scUMbag for a decade

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Apr 26, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Apr 26, 2011 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Here are some vids that show how hard it is to actually get that cape on

Shonn Greene trucking a Purdue player:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFR2J-tpanc&feature=related

Shonne Greene juking a Purdue player:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIFqDVUX6XU&feature=related

The aftermath:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4M44hvd1E

Despite that it was actually a very close game in Kinnick that was only decided late. Iowa had just beat #3 Penn St (starting a win streak that took them to #2 in the nation in consecutive wins near the end of next season) and played sluggish. Joe Tiller’s last team played with heart the way I’ve always seen them play against the Hawkeyes. The cross division “rivalry” is somewhat forced but I think historically it actually kind of makes sense. Here’s to you Purdue, OMHR (Our Most Hated Rival).

by HawkeyeRecon on Apr 26, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

But do they have a reason to look forward to basketball season?
Purdue fans start looking forward to basketball season a month ahead of schedule

Hummel makes it through a full season + competitive in the Big Ten + NCAA 2nd round flameout = Success!

Seriously. I hope Hummel doesn’t suffer another injury. I’d hate for the guy who runs Hammer and Rails to have to cry under the High School bleachers again.

by MSULaxer27 on Apr 26, 2011 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes. You just might.. Remember that was arguably Purdue's "best" class ever against the one of Tom Izzo's worst.

But even if you do beat us again this year we can always dry our tears on our Final Four and National championship banners. The NC banners are much softer than the B1G banners you’re so good at amassing.

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by MSULaxer27 on Apr 27, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right - not one of Izzo's best squads

But to be fair, it really wasn’t one of Izzo’s worst teams – there’s loads of talent there. He just seemed unable to inspire them to do much more than make it to the arena on game days.

And don’t cry – it’s only a game. Even Dick Vitale says so.

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by sea.of.white on Apr 27, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

When in doubt, always point to history in favor of the scoreboard

Every gifted-butthurt’s favorite argument.

OH YEAH SO THERE WE WON THE TITLE IN DIGGITY-SIX SO Y’ALL SUCK AT THINGS OR WHATEVER ROLL TAHD

by Erik T on Apr 27, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you say so.

Purdue’s flameout’s in the tourney are legendary. Much like their inability to turn B1G titles into any sort of national success. (Check out the t-shirt where they show 22 B1G titles)

So yes. They beat us twice last year.

In the grand scheme of things Do those two wins really f’n matter since they didn’t win a B1G title, go to the final four or win the NC (which was their stated goal). They beat a down MSU team. Good for them!

by MSULaxer27 on Apr 28, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Do those two wins really f’n matter since they didn’t win a B1G title, ..blah, blah, blah...."?

Yes. next question

>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
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by sea.of.white on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

So Purdue has to win in Ann Arbor for the third time since 1966 in order to make a bowl?

That’s a tough order.

UM offense >> Purdue Defense
Purdue Offense > UM Defense (Can they get any worse?)

In Ann Arbor. I wouldn’t bet that game.

by MSULaxer27 on Apr 26, 2011 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Or beat Illinois at home, or Notre Dame at home, or Iowa at home

As a substitute for Michigan.

I’m worried about Rice at Rice a little bit, and somewhat concerned about MTSU at home (we have lost two games at home to MAC teams the last two years).

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by babaoreally on Apr 27, 2011 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

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