Big Ten 2011 // Will OSU's Scandal-Plagued Offseason Open the Door for Michigan to Win The Game?
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POINT: OSU's scandal-plagued offseason, filled with suspensions and generally idiotic behavior by all involved, has given Michigan a much better chance to win The Game in 2011.
By Graham Filler
I'd like to impart a quick warning to all OTE readers. Ted's been drinking Mags Bennett's special apple pie drink (not the lethal stuff, I'm talking about the tasty high alcohol-content stuff) and isn't thinking clearly. Big Teddy Bear is looking at a 2011 Buckeye season that may include:
- A suspended or fired coach who was on his way to being the next Woody Hayes, a true Ohio State legend...and now has been exposed as just another cheating-ass Nick Saban-clone who would sell his own mother to Somali pirates if it led to more wins.
- Impending sanctions and/or punishments and/or loss of postseason opportunities.
- Star players, especially quarterback Terrelle Pryor, who will miss at least a key game against Michigan State, not to mention valuable time with the first-team offense. And let me take this a step further. When it rains, it pours, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of the Tattoo 5 never play a game in 2011. Sometimes it's hard to practice or go to class knowing you're missing half of the season. Sometimes that leads to a little bit more sampling of the Mary Jane or the temptation to slack off in the weight room or not read the playbook.
- An improved Michigan team (especially on the defensive side of the ball) who is now coached by a real UM homer. Does that help? I'm not sure, but it certainly can't hurt. Just remember in 2009 when the toothless Wolverines played inspired football in the Big House, picking off an early Pryor pass and making Tress go conservative to grind out a victory. UM CAN get up for this game, talent disparity aside.

Yet Ted cannot EVEN FATHOM that any of these factors may give Michigan any kind of edge. Hell, he's bound to argue that a Joe Bauserman-led Buckeye squad without Jim Tressel will blow out any team Brady Hoke has to offer. Do I blame him? Not really; there exists a certain confidence when you win 3939 games in a row over a rival and your talent level is so damn high. But Ohio State, certainly a preseason Top Three pick before these many controversies encircled Columbus, has now opened itself to losing the cohesiveness and mental toughness that made the Bucks so consistently good.
COUNTERPOINT: The tremendous talent disparity, plus a ton of veteran starters, will moot any impact the offseason problems might have on The Game. OSU will win going away. Again.
By Ted Glover
No Graham, I've been drinking Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat, and I'm as clear headed as ever. But I do think I'd like Mags Bennetts.
HA! No chance for UM. If these were teams that were closer in talent, maybe. But name one guy on Michigan's 22 that you would substitute for any of OSU's starting 22. This will all be blown over by November, in one way or another, OSU will probably be looking at a chance to go to the inaugural conference championship game, the Tattoo 5 will have been playing for almost two months, and the white noise of this scandal will be behind them.
Heck, and even if it isn't I really don't think it will matter. This was still pretty fresh when OSU took to the field for the Sugar Bowl, and they took care of business against a team that was much better than Michigan is, on the road, with a lot on the line. Much like the circumstances will be in November.

To me, the only wildcard is whether or not Tressel is still the coach. If he's around, OSU wins, and although it might not be the recent blowouts we've come to see, it would still be a convincing win. No Tressel? Yeah, might be closer, but I keep going back to the talent gap. There's just too much with Ohio State, and not enough on Michigan, and unless OSU just completely pisses down their legs and goes -5 in the turnover margin, they win.
I'm not trying to downplay the significance of what could potentially happen in Columbus, nor do I think that Brady Hoke was a bad hire. There could be a reckoning for the Buckeyes like we haven't seen coming down from the NCAA that could really hurt the program for several years. Hoke is a guy that seems to really 'get it' in terms of Michigan tradition and what it means to beat your rivals, and although he has 19 of 22 starters coming back, they are players that aren't optimal for the offense and defense Hoke wants to run. The defense will be better simply because Gerg isn't running it, but they'll still be overmatched against the elite teams, and the offense will struggle as they transition back to a more traditional Michigan system.
And sanctions or not, Tressel or no Tressel, vacated wins and ineligible players aside, Ohio State still has elite talent, and will be an elite team in November when these two teams meet, and Michigan won't. I think 2012 will be a different story in terms of talent gap, but in 2011, I just don't see them beating Ohio State.
And you know what? Let's talk about this cheating bullshit. At least OSU has the presence of mind to to do it to win some goddamn games. RichRod was so incompetent that he couldn't even CHEAT the right way. You overwork your players, OSU gives them free cars (allegedly). You bitch about your buyout with West Virginia, OSU guys get free tattoos. You cry at a banquet, Tressel gives the world a defiant 'Fuck you, I'm not sorry and I'm not leaving' presser.
Good God, at least when we cheat we see tangible results on the field. You get taken to triple overtime by Illinois. At home.
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Michigan is going to win straight up. They won't need the points.
Tressel will be fired before that game ever happens.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 10, 2011 4:48 AM CDT reply actions
Eventually, yes
People forget it, but pre-Jim Tressel, Ohio State was “just another major program” recruiting Ohio along with Michigan, Notre Dame, and Penn State.
Whether Tressel stays, goes, or is forced out, I suspect his stranglehold on Ohio recruiting is likely already gone. But it wasn’t gone 4 and 3 and 2 years ago, and those are the guys Michigan has to play this year.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Depends on who replaces him
If it’s a guy that has a lot of ties to the state and state HS coaches with a big national profile coughUrbanMeyercough, it could stay just as strong. Well, it would drop for a year or two while he plays catch up, but I think there’s a good reason to believe that it would get back to Tressel levels of dominance.
But bring in a guy from outside and it will take a big hit, no doubt.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Tressel also had some fortunate circumstances
The 98 and 99 OSU recruiting classes were awesome, and both Penn State and Notre Dame were historically very down. The early wins over Michigan were a product of great coaching, but I don’t know that whoever the next coach is (if there is one) can count on Penn State and Notre Dame being down
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Meyer will NOT be the next head coach at Ohio State
if only because of the amount of stress involved in the job. I could however see him becoming the OC for whoever takes over for Tressel.
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on May 10, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
If you look at the FACTS Ted
You’ll see that Rodriguez was completely exonerated. Tressel, well…
And I think pride in “cheating well” is what makes you guys Buckeyes and us Wolverines :)
Can I agree with both the point and counterpoint?
Tresselgate can only improve Michigan’s chances, but that takes them from 5% to 20% maybe.
by Erik T on May 10, 2011 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Second'd
The talent gap is truly enormous right now. It’s amazing how Michigan’s recruiting rankings have correlated so poorly to having good players.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
agreed
I will take that 15% increase in chances, frankly. At no time during the past three Michigan / OSU games have I thought they were going to win.
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by Graham Filler on May 10, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, when you neglect defense and special teams for the sake of an offense...it's not going to end well.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 10, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Hoke's chances.
Seems Wolverine Nation is 100% behind him while OSU has more drama and speculation than ever before. Interesting how this plays out. If Hoke can pull it off at Ann Arbor, being the scrappy underdog, he might just beat that team from Ohio. Or TP does a burnout in his free Corvette while getting some fresh ink to score the game winning TD. 50/50 either way probably.
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A Michigan Victory in November?
I want it to happen. It is a huge mountain to climb. But I imagine in May 1969 there was some chatter somewhere saying the same thing Bo’s first year. It hard not to think about history repeating. And there will be a lot of distractions for the Buckeyes. Our time may come earlier than anticipated. 24-12, anyone. Go Blue!!
by PreachinTotheChoir on May 10, 2011 5:52 PM CDT reply actions

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