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Big Ten 2011 // Ron Zook, Illinois Coach for Life

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There was a comment earlier this week that, at OTE, we just walk around saying "LOL Ron Zook LOL," essentially saying we don't take a more nuanced look at Zook and the Illinois program. Some truth to it, I would agree, but the Illini have the tendency to be a pretty easy team to figure out. Take a look at the last few years - 

2007 - Rose Bowl! Rejoice! Young Quarterback!

2008 - High expectations, playmakers...Tremendous disappointment, lack of in-game management, misuse of Juice Williams, no bowl game.

2009 - QB Carousel, Zook takes his place on the hot seat, 3-9 record that prompted this comment from a reader when I gave Zook a "D" grade:

I just can’t understand the Zooker getting a passing grade. He was even a failure at his trademark recruiting this year. His team regressed in every possible aspect of the game. If there was ever a coaching job that deserved an F grade this was it.

2010 - Low low low expectations (the OTE staff's picks, averaged out, would have predicted 4-8), but thanks to a simpler offensive philosophy and some great defensive performances, the Illini picked up a winning season and a (gasp) bowl win.

Star-divide

My point? We do pay attention to the Zookie Monster here at OTE, but his recent coaching jobs are so pronounced in their horrifying nature or surprising success that it's hard to take a nuanced look at those years. I think everyone would agree that Zook and his coordinators did a great job in 2010. The playcalling, in the past at times idiotic and seemingly unrelated to players on the field, played to the strengths of the offense. The downfield passing game, a facet pushed far too much in the past few years with uneven results, was tossed aside for more rollouts and misdirection. Even the defense, which had serious holes, was able to string together a couple of impressive performances against PSU and Baylor.

Zook has boom or busted consistently, but every time he booms, the complaints simmer down right along with the temperature of his coaching seat. If he continues this pattern, he could be coaching for years at Illinois! Think how much grace TWO surprisingly good years in a row would get Zook! And 2011 seems to be perfect for that - sure the offense is expected to be decent, but the defense lost most of its playmakers from a unit that depended heavily on them, so we're probably only expecting 6 wins, maybe 7 because the schedule is cake.

Should Illinois fans be more discerning, more pissy about Zook's inability to stabilize the program? Maybe they all sense that he's on the right track, supported by solid coordinators and a talented young quarterback..and that he couldn't possibly mismanage things like he did in 08-09. So however many LOL Zook LOL statements you dole out/suffer through this offseason, just know Big Ron is going to be around Champaign-Urbana for awhile.

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Zook’s contract runs through the 2013 season. That means, barring an 0-12 record this year, he will most likely coach in 2012 and 2013. I considered that two years.

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by Graham Filler on May 25, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Say they go 5-7. You think they’d just keep him on for another losing year to avoid paying the buyout?

by mikjones24 on May 25, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

History indicates that’s exactly what will happen.

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by Graham Filler on May 25, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

And in that "losing year"

He’d go 10-2 and sniff out some good bowl game, just to screw with us all.

by MNWildcat on May 25, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

By "screw with us all"

you mean continue to provide entertainment and give us reasons to post the waterskiiing picture

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Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on May 25, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing.

With Ron Guenther retiring this summer, depending on who they hire as the new AD, Zook might be out if he stumbles to 3 or 4 wins. In reality, the biggest reason he wasn’t put out to pasture after 2009 was all the instability in the board of trustees at Illinois after the clout scandal. A new AD — especially if he comes from outside the university — is going to want to put his stamp on the football program, and that might mean curtains for Zook.

As an aside, I think that Illinois might be able to eke out a Leaders division crown, but more likely will get 2nd or 3rd. It’ll be awfully hard to fire Zook if he wins 7 or 8.

by Jon Berg on May 25, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

One of my bigger problems has been the general (all media, not just OTE)

lambasting of Zook while Pat Fitzgerald is heralded as the next great coach. It doesn’t make sense to me, or some others.

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by U-God on May 25, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Because Fitz is by far the better coach

I had seen that article before, and one thing that cracks me up is the factual inaccuracy about B1G records. Zook is 16-32. Fitz is 18-22. I know that the author wants to match up same periods and overlook Zook’s first 0-8 year, but all that means is that Zook has had one more year to put his imprint on the program, and he’s still .333 in the conference (versus .450 for Fitz). Of Zook’s six seasons, he has finished with two or less conference wins three times. Fitz only did that his first year, when he took over six weeks before the season began. In fact, Zook has only had one winning B1G season (2010 was a 4-4 year). Fitz has two with one less year at the helm. Zook is 27-45 overall regular season versus Fitz at 34-26. Want to complain about tougher out-of-conference? There’s really only eight games where this comes into play (six against Missouri and one against Cal and Cincinatti), and even if you assume all flip from a W to an L for Fitz, you still have Zook at 27-45 (.375) versus Fitz at 26-34 (.433). None of this even takes into account the talent differential between the two schools. By almost every measure, Fitz is the better coach, which is why he gets more love than Zook.

by GTom on May 25, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

At what point does the mediocrity of 7-8 win seasons with an inevitable bowl game loss become not enough?

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by U-God on May 25, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couple of things...

- Eight wins is not mediocre. That’s usually good enough to be playing on Jan. 1 in the B1G, and it’s still better than where Zook finished in five of his six years at the helm.
- Northwestern did have a 9-3 record in 2008. That’s just as good as the Illini record when they went to the Rose Bowl.
- The Bowl win will come. I, unlike an unfortunate percentage of Northwestern fans (probably too many Cubs fans in that mix), am not all that distressed about the string of Bowl losses. We have a lot more painful 8 game + losing streaks (i.e. 30+ game losing streaks) in our history to get too hung up on this one. In addition, only three of those losses are on Fitz, two of which were in overtime (and would have been W’s if we could just make a field goal).
- I’m not saying that Fitz is the best coach that ever lived, but he is for damn sure better than Zook (and I initially really liked the Zook hire – I wish that he had proven to be more successful).
- Fitz is a likeable guy with passion, enthusiasm, shows respect to other schools, is good with reporters, has good rapport with his team, and he happens to be legend (or is it leader) as a player at the same school he’s coaching. It’s a good storyline and he’s going to get positive press. What’s wrong with that? Can you give me one reason why Zook’s storyline is more compelling?

by GTom on May 25, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fitz also inherited a much better team that was in better shape than Zook did.

And when the 8 win seasons come with a 5-3 conference record, yeah, that is mediocre. I’m not arguing that what Zook has done is better. Zook matches every highlight you list for Fitz in your final bullet point other than being a legend at the school, yet a picture of the man water skiing is somehow the funniest thing people can find?

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by U-God on May 25, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give me a break with the death of the coach shit.

Yeah, that’s hard on the players. But they move the fuck on. They had a much more talented base than what Turner left in the cupboard for Zook. Grief passes. Shitty talent doesn’t miraculously turn great.

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by U-God on May 25, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Northwestern had a more talented base? Illinois’ classes, even under Turner at the end, were consistently rated higher by recruiting “experts” than Northwestern’s.

And I’m sorry for my “no one in Champaign-Urbana knows how to use the internet” joke. Given your indifferent attitude towards the effect the death of a head coach might have on a team, I figured you’d have a thicker skin.

(Nevermind that losing your head coach to death not only impacted Northwestern emotionally, but also because it threw a guy who had never been a head coach before unexpectedly into the job, with players he hadn’t developed the same relationship with as the man who recruited them to the school)

by Chadnudj on May 25, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

The dumbest thing I've ever read

is your continued poor attempt at a joke that no one at U of I can use the internet. That is dumb and the only person laughing is you in your DJ booth as you uncreatively play that stupid wildcat noise ad nauseam.

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by U-God on May 25, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. There's being an asshole

and there’s this.

You’ve proven you can use the Internet. Thousands of U of I grads weep in the streets thanks to your vindication of their honor. Go make a personal attack somewhere else.

by MNWildcat on May 25, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with most of hat you said about the coach dying etc

but you’re right on in saying that wildcat noise has got to go and gets played easily a trillion times per game.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on May 25, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a 'Cats fan...

… I agree wholeheartedly. They didn’t really start doing it until the late ’90’s, and the first time I heard it I was just embarrassed about the whole NBA arena aspect of the sound effect (no ill will meant to you, Chadnudj, and I apologize if that was your innovation). Penn State has the exact same effect, which I believe Chadnudj has identified as the opening to Cat Scratch Fever. That being said, as a Buckeye fan, you’ve probably only had to endure the effect in 2004, because I don’t think there were too many opportunities to play it in the other matchups (imagine how annoyed Indiana gets when they visit).

by GTom on May 25, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was there in 06

and they played it easily a million times.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on May 25, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's from the Janet Jackson song Black Cat.

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by U-God on May 25, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

Not my innovation (the sound-effect was there when I was a student 1997-2001, I’m fairly certain, if not earlier, which pre-dated my DJ service by nearly a decade) and not Cat Scratch Fever, either….(try the opening growl of Janet Jackson’s Black Cat, looped twice.)

Personally, I like the sound, although I’m sure it annoys other fans, mainly because it indicates the Cats are doing something good — it only is played generally when Northwestern does something positive in the game: Touchdowns, FGs, sometimes on sacks/INTs/Fumble recoveries, at the end of games where the Cats win, and rarely on big plays (normally something like 40+ or 50+ yards).

by Chadnudj on May 25, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or when you play Iowa

everytime jNW has a play with forward progress.
/rawr rawr
//has PTSD from trip last year

by Jon Berg on May 25, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

This totally happened. I was there.

by mikjones24 on May 25, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

to be fair

Plenty of schools use noises and play them far too often. NW is just one of many.

by mikjones24 on May 25, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

SCAR

Is probably the worst. I think they actually banned it from being played.

by mikjones24 on May 25, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try sitting thru....

….the Tomahawk chop at a FSU game…

by Chadnudj on May 25, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny pictures...

… are funny. I’m sure that if most posters on OTE had an opportunity to meet Ron Zook, they would shake his hand, have a kind word, and walk away thinking that he was a good guy. However, this is the internet, and pictures of coaches doing anything other than coaching a football team are fair game for entertainment purposes. Look back a couple of weeks, and you will see my image of Fitz forever ruined with a hairy ass between his hands. It’s strange, hilarious, and disgusting all at the same time, but definitely entertaining. Just have a good time with it. Besides, Coach Hope seems to be catching up in the mockery standings, and we’ve got three new coaches to try and help fill the void left by Mr. Brewster.

by GTom on May 25, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If the guy wants to play the "throw out the first year" game

then Fitz is 16-16, Zook is 16-24.

More to the point, everything in college is graded on a curve. Fitzgerald has the best conference record of any Northwestern coach since WWII, while Zook is roughly a game per season below Illinois average. Nearly all Northwestern fans are thrilled that Fitz is signed for 10 years and every last one of them would be thrilled if Illinois signed the same contract with Zook.

by nuftw on May 25, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't get that worked up about Fitz

What’s he done? Kept a perennial doormat relevant in football. NU is playing above its traditional status and has elevated itself out of the B1G cellar (that’s now Minnesota-Indiana territory). The fact that Illinois is even concerned with NU is humorous to an outsider.

by rogerja on May 25, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's humorous about paying attention to your main in-state rival?

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by U-God on May 25, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take Michigan

For example. MSU is “little brother,” not rival.

by rogerja on May 25, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

As bad as Northwestern has been...

… Illinois only has a seven game win advantage all-time. It’s been Northwestern’s most competitive series in the B1G, outside of Indiana (where Northwestern actually has an advantage). Not exactly little brother territory, although Illinois has a far better overall win percentage and other historical advantages going for it. That being said, it seems like only a small minority of fans on both sides really get into the rivalry, but that minority can be intense (I had a friend who was a former DE for Illinois and I was always shocked at the t-shirts, photoshop e-mails, and other things that came up with the week of the game – it always makes me feel good that somebody has enough hate for the ’Cats to go through that effort).

by GTom on May 25, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

+7, huh?

I don’t know who that says more about.

by rogerja on May 25, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

YEAH!

You’re our rivals now! Right? Riiiiight?

Hello? Anyone…

by MNWildcat on May 25, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a perfect world

I want my “rival” to be a private, highly selective academic school with no football tradition.

by rogerja on May 25, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Duke

Hating them for basketball is just a bonus.

by GTom on May 25, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

AND Wisconsin.

Wait, what? Fitzy is only 1-1 against Bielema.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 27, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good one Rog

Other than Brewster’s first and last seasons, how often has Minnesota been in the Big Ten cellar the last decade plus? Since 1999 the Gophers have finished 4th (5-3), 5th (4-4), tied 10th (2-6), 8th (3-5), 4th (5-3) (and had they not blown a 21 point 4th quarter lead to lose to Michigan, they would have won the Big Ten and gone to the Rose Bowl that year), 8th (3-5), 7th (4-4), 6th (3-5), 11th (0-8), 6th (3-5), 8th (3-5), 10th (2-6).

So, in 11 seasons only 3 times have the Gophers finished in the bottom 3 of the conference. And those are the only seasons where the Gophers won less than 3 conference games. I just don’t get how everyone on this site pretends like the Gophers have been perpetual bottom dwellers.

The Gophers have been an inconsistent team that is usually an average Big Ten squad. Sometimes they are better, and sometimes worse, but they have been far from an Indiana style conference doormat.

by AhliBobwa on May 25, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you still miss Mason

Take out PSU’s “dark years” and the Rich Rod era, wherer Minny then?

by rogerja on May 26, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ron Zook, Illini Coach for Life?

YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!

If we dont get the 3 and out, well, when is the turnover coming?

by BuckeyeSki on May 25, 2011 9:18 AM CDT reply actions  

you can't discredit the recruiting job he is doing

-Ilinois has produced quite a few NFL players over the past 4 years, and is going to produce quite a few more. We’re in on alot of high end talent right now as well for 2012, all over the country.
-Please do read the post U-God linked to, it hasn’t exactly been easy sledding schedule wise compared to the rest of the nation.
-Also, and I think a very big factor that people are neglecting, is that they’ll have continuity with both off and def coordinators this year. That will be huge for the both sides of the ball not having to learn a new system.
-I’d definitely say he’s on the hot seat if he doesn’t produce say 8 wins this season, but things are trending up.

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by Jack M on May 25, 2011 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

If you look at the Illini schedule

and assume that Scheelhaase will step up and not regress like Juice did, and the defense will be more consistent, you can talk yourself into Illinois winning the Leaders division. Ohio State has The Scandal, you can make the argument that Illinois is a better team than Penn State, who they throttled last year, and Wisconsin lost a lot of talent on both sides of the ball.

As to the Fitz v. Zook argument, Zook is still plagued by his days at Florida, and Fitz took over in the Walker aftermath, and those perceptions still linger, fairly or not. You can make the case that Illinois should be better than NW anyway, because they have a better recruiting advantage in terms of easier admission requirements, better facilities, etc, and that might tilt the argument towards Fitzgerald, but the article that U-God linked to was very revealing.

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by Ted Glover on May 25, 2011 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

In case you want more fun, Ted

here’s another commentary on Fitz’s extension.

 I hadn’t considered the whole “Zook/Florida” to “Fitz/Walker” comparison before, but I can’ t honestly say I care if Fitz is a “better” coach than Zook. As my comments in the above article would indicate, I vaule the steps in the right direction this program has taken. Do I particularly care if that’s against Eastern Michigan or Duke Syracuse Illinois State? No, because that’s not exclusive to us. Fitz works here, as far as I’m concerned, and he “wins”, as the U-God article says. Don’t you think “wins” could possibly be enough for a majority of NU fans? I do.

by MNWildcat on May 25, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

See commment above...

That article was very misleading. Left out Zook’s 2-10, 0-8 2005 season.

by GTom on May 25, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

and you missed the point of the article, almost entirely.
Oh, you don’t think Zook has earned that type of extension? Neither do I. Not even close. But then what is Northwestern doing? I mean, Fitzgerald’s career has mirrored Zook’s so far. Sure, Fitz hasn’t won a bowl game, but the last 5 years, their careers are essentially the same. So why is Northwestern extending him?

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by Jack M on May 25, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again...

The author chooses to compare a period that begins with Fitz’s first (and worst) season, while somehow excluding Zook’s first (and worst) season. I also fall back on my earlier comment… Zook had one really good season in his stretch, one breakeven, and four miserable seasons. Fitz only had one miserable season (his first), one breakeven, two good, and one 7-5 (I leave it up to your judgment if that is good or breakeven). There’s a big difference. There is no mirror.

by GTom on May 25, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

ILLINOIS IS BETTER THAN PENN STATE?!?!

BSD IS COMING TO OTE TO SMACK U WITH BAN HAMMER

HELP IS ON THE WAY

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by SouthBayBuckeye on May 25, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh, it's entirely possible

Most fans think we’ll beat them again, uhh, I just typed again even though we lost 33-13. That’s how most fans feel about the game; we seem to think we’ll beat them, but I wouldn’t rule it out, especially if the run defense doesn’t pull it together.

At the same time there are a million reasons to think we’ll be infinitely better than last year. But nah, I wouldn’t rule it out

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on May 25, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohio State also lost a TON on defense.

Heyward, Larimore, Torrance, Chekwa, Hines, Homan, Grant and Rolle? That’s a tall order of players to replace.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 27, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I have never understood...

…is Zooks poor recruiting in most years.
1. Zook came in a decent name
2. Illinois is a populous state
3. Illinois turns out a lot of talent… which goes out of state.

My guess is the facilities. I think I read Illinois is using the shared revenue winfall for a lot of long overdue upgrades. Unfortunately for Zookies, I don’t think he will be around to reap their benefits.

by ProveIt on May 25, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you're off in your assessment

Zook has had some really strong recruiting years. The knock has been that he hasn’t been able to produce with that talent.

by GTom on May 25, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Recruiting class rankings

Year – Scout – Rivals
2005 – 45 – >50 Rivals only lists top 50 in past years
2006 – 28 – 30
2007 – 20 – 20
2008 – 19 – 23
2009 – 35 – 35
2010 – 57 – >50
2011 – 38 – 42

Only 3 years in the top 1/2 of the majors, never in the top 1/4
This would be good recruiting for a mid major, but less than average for a major

by ProveIt on May 25, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perspective

As a Northwestern fan, I would be ecstatic with those rankings. I guess it all depends on your point of view, but understand that you expect more.

by GTom on May 26, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody ever said...

…Northwestern is good at recruiting without adding substantial qualifiers.

by ProveIt on May 27, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point # 3 is what makes me to want to bang my head against the wall repeatedly.

Back in the day, it was bad enough that you had Notre Dame coming into Chicago and taking whomever they wanted. Now that Wisconsin and Iowa are competitive on a regular basis, you have more Chicago-are talent looking at those schools, plus the Ohio States and Michigans of the world. I think Zook has done a better job of getting some of the in-state talent to stay in-state (Martez Wilson, Reilly O’Toole, Juice Williams), but there’s a lot of competition in the region and U of I is at a disadvantage next to the traditional powerhouses and new money programs. This argument was made during Indiana or Purdue week (I can’t remember which), and I think it applies to Illinois to an extent, as well.

As for facilities, I don’t think it’s a huge component. They’re likely not as nice as Nebraska’s or Penn State’s, but there’s a recently renovated stadium and a relatively new indoor practice facility (right next to the stadium). Can’t say I’ve ever seen pictures of the weight room.

by I-L-L-matic on May 25, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree about the facilities.

Most of the facilities are fairly new or renovated. I don’t know how the quality compares to other B1G schools, but they don’t seem to be a weak point in recruiting.

Pictures and videos:
http://www.fightingillini.com/sports/coach-zook/inside-facilities.html

by Lell87 on May 26, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Zook came in as a decent name at all

He was dragged through the mud in Florida, and that fireronzook.com website was one of the most popular in the country.

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by Ted Glover on May 25, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

this

HELP IS ON THE WAY

http://www.insidetheshoe.com/

by SouthBayBuckeye on May 25, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair...

…the web site started the day after Zook was hired – it wasn’t a product of his performance.

by ProveIt on May 25, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope the Zooker stays forever

Because as an Iowa fan, i realize that we will never be playing Illinois again in my lifetime. so in order for me to remember that they exist they need a batshit insane coach that i can laugh at.

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