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B1G 2011 Nebraska Point/Counterpoint: Bo Pelini's Temper And Taylor Martinez As Leader (Or Not)

It's Nebraska week here at OTE, and in honor of that, I've been made an editor in order to publish our point/counterpoint article. That's an amazing amount of faith being granted to me by the guys that run this site. 

The crew at CN raised a couple of hot issues for the upcoming season - Bo Pelini's temper and quarterback Taylor Martinez' ability to be a leader. I hope the point/counterpointing below stirs some discussion. 

Point: Bo Pelini's sideline outbursts and treatment of the media are a serious problem for Nebraska football.

Jon J: If you want an example of why Pelini's sideline demeanor is a problem, go back to last season and look at the Texas A&M game. It's one thing to have your coach on national television clearly spitting multiple f-bombs into his star quarterback's face, but it's another thing entirely when the coach becomes so angry at what is happening around him that he forgets to coach the game.

And that is exactly what happened in College Station. Pelini got so bent out of shape screaming at officials that he ignored what was happening with his football team. Pelini doesn't need to become as stoic as Tom Osborne, but he does need to make sure his tirades are no longer an issue.

Star-divide

Ricky:  He also has to keep in mind that, whether he likes it or not, he's the face of this program.  With that, comes some responsibility to the media.  He doesn't need to cater to them necessarily, but he needs to be more professional.  Trust me, by building capital with the media, a lot more of the minor issues slide.  

We're all well aware that Pelini has this "me versus the world" mentality.  That may work with his players, but it is wearing thin on the media and, as an extension of that, the fans.  Don't tell me that the online job posting for an offensive coach is for an intern.  Don't flat out deny that Martinez skipped the walk-through after the A&M game.  Just don't.  Don't shovel bullshit to your fans.  Would it kill Pelini just to say "no comment" or "I'll get back to you on that"?  Here's the deal with reporters:  it's a give and take relationship.  Throw them a bone and they usually have your back and let some other things slide.

Now, does this include every message board and rogue blogger that has "inside information"?  Of course not.  Pelini would...and has to some extent...driven himself crazy trying to quell all of the rumors.  

There will always be detractors and gossip mongers.  There were before this whole Interwebs took off and there will be when we have flying cars (a personal dream).  He needs to deal with the mainstream.  Say what you want about the media (and much has), but they have a job to do.  Yes, they're supposed to be objective, but they're also people and they get pissed off and frustrated.  To paraphrase the immortal words of Dr. Evil:  "Throw them a frickin' bone over there."

Counterpoint: Pelini's behavior isn't that bad, and if the media didn't ask so many stupid questions he probably wouldn't look as irritated as he does.

Mike: The concerns about Pelini's behavior are magnified because Pelini is under the microscope; technology is cheaper than ever and more games are televised, so networks have more ability to devote a camera to Pelini on the sideline than his predecessors. Could Pelini do a better job of managing his emotions? Absolutely.  But Pelini shouldn't change who he is: a passionate coach who pretty much talks straightforwardly.  Let's compare him to Bill "doing an exceptional job" Callahan, who would rarely, if ever, answer the question that was asked.  So a stupid question would get an off-topic response.

Point: Taylor Martinez must become more of a leader in order for Nebraska to have success on the field in 2011.

Jon J: Heading into this season, this seems to be a big issue with Husker fans. I'll admit that it wasn't for me until I read an interview with Cody Green a couple days ago in which he mentions this bit about Taylor Martinez: 

What is your relationship like with Taylor Martinez?

"Taylor just kind of keeps to himself most of the time. He's quiet and doesn't talk too much."

I don't think anyone can argue with the prediction that Nebraska's defense will keep them in every game during the 2011 season. Given that, the offense doesn't have to be one of the best in the nation for the Huskers to be successful. On the other hand, the offense can really screw things up, especially if it remains a turnover machine like it was last season. Bottom line - the offense must be better. 

It doesn't matter whether you're a quarterback, managing a group of programmers, or leading a church group - good leaders have to be good communicators in order to be effective. People are looking for direction from you, and when it comes to football, they're going to be looking for leadership on why things are or are not working. 

You might attribute Martinez' behavior (keeping to himself) to being a prima donna, but I think that'd be wrong. He might simply be shy. That's wonderful if you're a wide receiver, not if you're a quarterback. You're expected to lead, ala, communication. That can't completely come from the sideline. There is too much going on on the field, and sometimes someone in the huddle must settle things down or stir them up. Martinez is going to have to get over his shyness in order to be more effective. 

If nothing else, perhaps we could avoid a repeat of last season's rampaging angst and made-up rumors about Martinez. 

Counterpoint: Martinez was a first-year starter last season. How much of a leader did anyone expect him to be?

Mike:  We're talking about a redshirt freshman. Nobody expects a redshirt freshman to be a leader. And let's make it clear, the problem with Martinez last year wasn't "leadership", it was his ankle. Nobody said boo about "leadership" when he was running up and down the sideline in Seattle and Manhattan.  Nobody said boo about "leadership" when he was carving up the Oklahoma State secondary like a hot knife through butter.

Now, if you want to argue that Martinez needs to round out his game so it's not 100% dependent on his blazing speed, fine. 

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Pelini's sieline demeanor

is bad enough that I’m glad MSU did not hire him in 2007.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Jun 14, 2011 8:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Right...

And you are so much more comfortable with a head coach who has a serious health issue. And don’t give us that bullshit, we all watch college football and witness sideline outbursts in every damn game – we all witness coaches who allow player-thuggery displays on the field, or “certain” coaches who turn a blind eye to off-the-field athlete ethics violations.

Perhaps Pelini overstepped a boundary or two…or three, but don’t act like Michigan State, even with all the unfounded 2011 pre-season hooplah, wouldn’t be pissing-their-pants-excited to have him as a head coach.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just do me a favor, if you will...

Tell Mr. Rucker that I am into females, but I appreciate the interest.

TIA. : )

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Our coach had a health issue

Your coach is going to have an aneurysm the way he acts.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Jun 14, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...

If your coach [had] a health issue, our coach [had] and anger problem.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aneurysm you say?

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage

by BuckeyeSki on Jun 14, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvrRvUYRdD8

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Um...

…how is a health issue likely to result in embarrassment for the university on national TV?

by GoAUpher on Jun 14, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Having a stroke on the sideline

Would be pretty embarrassing. Is that what he was saying? Dunno.

by mikjones24 on Jun 14, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who said anything about embarrassment?

We are talking about results, and as long as Pelini can produce wins, his behavior will be tolerable (within reason).

On the other hand, a middle-aged man who is suseptable to heart atttacks probably won’t be long for the coaching world – one of the most stressful jobs one could take on.

Again, I’ll trade you the pissed-off guy for the unhealthy guy anyday.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Seer was saying he’s glad MSU has Dantonio b/c Pelini isn’t producing. It looks to me like he was saying he’s glad that MSU doesn’t have Pelini to avoid the TAMU style meltdowns. At least, that’s how I took it an what I was responding to.

I’m certainly not going to question the guy’s success. And FWIW, anger issues aren’t healthy either. There is a very solid chance that Pelini has blood pressure issues.

by GoAUpher on Jun 14, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's exaclty what I was saying

My point is Pelini’s demeanor is so bad to me that I would rather not have him even though his results are good.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Jun 14, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

Because this makes Steve’s post farther down the page extremely hilarious:

Welcome to a debate….
Often times arguments are comprised of varying points of emphasis to prove…well, a point. And often times, when one makes their point, however wrong, right or indifferent it may be, another member of the debate will present what is often times called "a rebuttal".
My rebuttal to Seer’s apparent preference for Dantonio over Pelini’s outbursts was that I would prefer Pelini’s outbursts over Dantonio’s heart problems.
Welcome to a debate, Sir.

by GoAUpher on Jun 14, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The post you are referrencing...

Is completely out of context when you copy and paste it up here. It’s perfectly legit and deserving right where I placed it – and you know it.

But you are right in one aspect – what really makes it hilarious, is your post (3 above), when you had to explain Seer’s stance in this debate because he couldn’t coherently make his point. (this is me laughing) =)

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Care to explain...

…how this is out of place?

My rebuttal to Seer’s apparent preference for Dantonio over Pelini’s outbursts was that I would prefer Pelini’s outbursts over Dantonio’s heart problems.

That makes no sense if you are rebutting Seer’s happiness that MSU doesn’t have to deal with their coach making a fool of himself on the sideline with his antics.

And while Seer may not have been crystal clear I figured it out easily enough because the context does not lend itself to suggesting he was talking about performance. Most people at this point would simply go “my bad, misunderstood you” and move on. Because it happens. You have chosen to go with “it’s all Seer’s fault!” and are ignoring the other part…ya know, the part where you admit you were wrong.

But yea, keep digging.

by GoAUpher on Jun 14, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only person digging is you.

You are creatching a patchwork work of quotes from a long line of dialogue and making claims from what you’ve cherry-picked.

This debate was long over with until you decided to fire it right back up.

So yeah, keep digging.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I rec'd this...

…because I’m willing to admit when I’m nitpicking.

by GoAUpher on Jun 14, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

peacock fighting?

huge in china

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

real laughter was produced

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Jun 14, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh good lord...

Your opinion that you’d rather have Pelini and his outbursts over Dantonio and his health problems is a valid one. There is no way to prove or disprove it nor is there a reason to because there is no reason to question it logically.

I brought the whole thing up only because you’ve picked fights in this entire thread and more importantly, you lectured folks on how to debate. I find that last part hilarious given the fact that your primary rebuttal to the very first comment on this entire thread didn’t even respond to the opinion offered. What you started arguing was about a different topic entirely (“Which coach do you prefer and why” versus the more specific “I prefer Dantonio b/c he doesn’t embarrass himself on national TV”). Am I nitpicking? Yep. But only because I think it is supremely funny to watch you tell other posters “Welcome to a debate” while your very first attempt to debate in the same thread was a giant bucket of fail.

by GoAUpher on Jun 14, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I also see that you are still unwilling to admit that you’re misunderstood the original comment (i.e. you still want to be right). Which is still hilarious.

by GoAUpher on Jun 14, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

So....

Do you prefer a standard, shallow-water lure, nightcrawlers, or shall I hook up some chicken liver for ya?

And at what depth do you typically feed?

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the lamest argument I've ever heard

Can every exchanging opinions above please move onto something else? Pelini? Dantonio? I mean, seriously. One has an anger issues, the other health issues. How are we possibly comparing the two. This is boring me.

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jun 14, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not "nitpicking" to point out that you completely missed the point of his original post.

Other than that, carry on.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Jun 19, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Martinez'seses Leadership

I don’t think it has to do with being a prima donna (implies arrogance) or being shy (implies fear); some dudes are just quiet. Call ‘em lone wolfs, call it having a "sniper’s mentality", but some guys just keep to themselves and handle their business. Now, is that the best trait for a QB? As Mike pointed out, leading by example isn’t a problem when you’re performing at top level- but when T-Mart’s game isn’t coming to him, that’s when he needs to step up in the huddle and be a field general.

by crowe1856 on Jun 14, 2011 8:36 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I still think he can be a leader

And what we saw last year was merely the stress and pressure that came with throwing a freshman in the spotlight as the face of a big program. As much as he’s a good QB, I think the person wasn’t ready for it.

Hopefully I’m right cuz if I’m not, we’re in for a looooong year.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Basically a cryer

I started to get worried about Martinez leading the Huskers when I saw him basically crying and moping around on the sidelines last year after any setback.

by CLing on Jun 14, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

His own team doesn't appear to even respect him much.

No one ever talks to him on the sidelines.

If we should win, let it be by the code, Faith and Honor held high,
If we should lose, we'll stand by the road, and cheer as the winners go by.

by B1Ghusker on Jun 14, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was last year

I believe I read on the world herald a couple months back that he’s really improved on his leadership skills

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 5:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, It's A Problem

I’m sorry, but what we saw last year was when Martinez could do it on his own, he did. Fine, but that was nothing more than pure individual athletic ability. He didn’t pump his guys up on the sideline, he stood off by himself contemplating his own personal thoughts. He barely made eye contact in the huddles much less seem to do anything more than deliver the play while looking at his wrist band or shoes. He just trudged to the huddle, then to the side line where he would sulk. He showed nothing, absolutely nothing that would indicate he had any leadership capability. As for being a field general, when he had to improvise, if he couldn’t run out of trouble, he got sacked or threw an interception or fumbled. Rarely did he make anything out of nothing. And it didn’t look appreciably different during the Spring Game.
I just don’t see any glimmer of leadership from this kid. So he was a freshman – lots of freshman step up. Watch a star QB working his crew, cajoling, joking, pushing, reprimanding, just engaging in any way – when we start to see that from Taylor, I’ll change my tune. Until then, I think he is nothing more than a gifted athlete and not a leader.

"What everybody echoes or in silence passes by as true today may turn out to be falsehood tomorrow, mere smoke of opinion." Thoreau

by UltimaRatioRegum on Jun 14, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't rec from a phone

But you can have this comment.
+1.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's entertaining, i'll give you that

I hope his temper does not get the better of him like it did for Woody Hayes

by LincolnParkWildcat on Jun 15, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as he doesn't go all Woody Hayes on some player Im ok with it

It is what it is and we are who we are.
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by nateforchiefs on Jun 16, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leadership is easy when you are winning. It is when you are in a tight game, Big XII title game, Texas A&M, and the Holiday Bowl, that is when you need to lead. In those games he flat out didn’t play well. He gets a little bit of a pass for being a freshman. But, this year no such luck.

by Huzkerfan on Jun 14, 2011 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I would like to second this motion

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage

by BuckeyeSki on Jun 14, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Steve is a troll, people.

Disregard the guy, nobody in their right mind actually talks crap about a person because they have health problems. He’s likely an iowa fan in disguise.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Or maybe he's just a Nebraska fan who is an asshole

It is possible you know. Some people might even say it was common.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jun 14, 2011 10:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah

but they’d be Kansas State fans. They’re probably not here. :)

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by Jon Johnston on Jun 14, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hi, Jon!

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Jun 19, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 for this guy

Maybe I am a bit of an a-hole, but after lurking here for months, I can’t stand some of the “my team is better than your team, for no apparent reason, nonesense”.

Someone wants to jump on the hate pelini bandwagon because NU is a newcomer to the conference, then fine. I’ll jump on the “I would rather not have an unhealthy coach” bandwagon.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you on defending Pelini.

I just think attacking someone’s illness, unless he’s mack brown, is uncalled for.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

See you in the Husker forum...

I’m sure you and I will have a great year.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

This sounds like

Setting up a fight, after third period, behind classroom 200, back in high school.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

can we form a circle around you two and chant "fight"?

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stick him with the buttery end

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage

by BuckeyeSki on Jun 14, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

if this foesn't go green

i don’t know what will

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesn't

FML

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does this give new meaning

to getting cornholed?

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage

by BuckeyeSki on Jun 15, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

Just sounds like you are an easy target with all your hypocritical BS you’ve displayed in the last 15 minutes or so…

I wouldn’t go labeling others as trolls if I were you, just some fyi.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

but what if my team Is better than your team

(insert proof here)

argument complete.

HELP IS ON THE WAY

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only Iowa, Colorado, and Mizzou fans think we're assholes.

Maybe if you guys changed your colors you wouldn’t be such losers.

No really though, he’s prly an iowa fan that lives in council bluffs.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ha! And I'm the troll...

Fyi, I’ve been an NU season ticket holder for going on 6 years now. I must be one hell of a troll to invest that much into pretending to be a Husker fan.

Pelini is just mad because he read my last post in the Husker forum, which basically says how arrogant and over-confident we are to think we are Big10 front-runners.

Forgive me for trying to be a logical Husker fan – you know, there are some of us who exist.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

oooo you just got served

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stomp the Yard 4: Lincoln

Coming to a corn-field near you. Fall 2011

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage

by BuckeyeSki on Jun 14, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate cats, but... ah F it...

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

MEOWZA!

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage

by BuckeyeSki on Jun 14, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is my goal to completely stop makign sense

or even attempting to from here on out.

(other dudes, spare me your “hey, you just started?” etc that’s just too easy to take)

HELP IS ON THE WAY

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

you might need this

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Jun 14, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Zelda, rec'd

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Jun 14, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dick

What you said made you one.

by CLing on Jun 14, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dick

Your breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's unhealthy to eat for every meal

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

No joke, I actually saw that at the grocery store and ate some.

Its terrible

It is what it is and we are who we are.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
Not all those who wander are lost. /////// I dont mind stealing bread.

by nateforchiefs on Jun 16, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes-I disagreed with your assessment regarding arrogance.

But that’s not why I called you a troll. I called you a troll because you went on a rant about a coach’s health as a rebuttal to Pelini being an idiot against the likes of aTm and VTech.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

atm??

do. not. google.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to a debate....

Often times arguments are comprised of varying points of emphasis to prove…well, a point. And often times, when one makes their point, however wrong, right or indifferent it may be, another member of the debate will present what is often times called “a rebuttal”.

My rebuttal to Seer’s apparent preference for Dantonio over Pelini’s outbursts was that I would prefer Pelini’s outbursts over Dantonio’s heart problems.

Welcome to a debate, Sir.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...

Let’s wish mack brown a season full of panic attacks and palin many more wonderfully retarded children while we’re at it.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

retarded children? really?

you’re going to go there?

sure she’s a dim-witted moron, but come on.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

He would go there...

and in the same breath, call you an insensitive troll.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll rec that...

but only for it’s timely cleverness.

Nothing is quite as retarded is that ugly ass mop roaming the Kinnick sidelines that looks as if he’s trying to fist a donkey.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

That looks nothing like the Herky...

That “roams the sidelines” at Kinnick. If you’re going to talk shit at least do it correctly.

by mikjones24 on Jun 14, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Herky looks like he has some pipes in that pic

He’s seriously a badass. Better than the bastard child of the Stay-puft marshmallow man and Chucky.

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jun 14, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very smooth... speechless myself

Steve tried to get you back, but I don’t think you can claim the hawkeye (as lame as it is) is lamer than lil red. Lil Red is probably in the top 5 for lamest mascots, and I’m a husker fan. I would argue that the hawkeye is probably in line with Herbie (both fairly lame) and both are not-quite-as lame as a “buckeye”.

by GoBigRed - Josh on Jun 14, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

DONT FORGET ABOUT ME!!!!

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage

by BuckeyeSki on Jun 14, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh gods

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Jun 14, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

DIE DIE DIE DIE!

I will leap down from the stands and pop that damn thing if it ever shows up at Ryan Field again!

by LincolnParkWildcat on Jun 15, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still say

Lil’ Red is the bastard child of the Michelin Man.

by Wolvie on Jun 14, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Naw man.

I’m just playing up the “Its a debate and we’re proving points so she’s fair game” deal.

by Fake Pelini on Jun 14, 2011 10:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

So to be clear

You have absolutely no fear of spiders?

Wait? You mean there are smart black people on the internet!!???

by TheFreshRonPrinceofBelAir on Jun 19, 2011 12:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Speaking of trolls...
…and palin many more wonderfully retarded children while we’re at it.

I’m a Democrat, who doesn’t even like her, and that was so far out of bounds that even Colt McCoy couldn’t have hit it with a last-second throw.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Jun 19, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever, dude...

I’m not trash talking him, I’m looking at simple risk assessement. I would rather an a-hole for a coach than an unhealthy coach.

Hey, at least I’m not the naive, can’t see past my big red blinders husker fan…

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bashing someone for health problems?
He’s likely an iowa fan in disguise.

I think I speak for many when I say: go fuck yourself.

by mikjones24 on Jun 14, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

OH SNAP

HELP IS ON THE WAY

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 14, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that's not nice

Step out on the mat in a knee brace, though, expect us to attack that knee.

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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 14, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Viewpoint #3

As a third husker fan, have to say I disagree with both Steve and Fake Pelini…

Yeah it’s stupid to pretend we are “obvious” front runners to the Big 10. I would take 50% odds against the Huskers winning any day. As for winning the “Legends” division, I suppose we are the most likely team at this point. As for winning the Big 10, “the” OSU is in front until someone shows them otherwise regardless of all the coaching/ethics hoopla.

Yeah it’s stupid to say MSU’s coach will have a heart attack /stroke/etc on the sideline. Would bet against you on that one too. And to make fun of him for it is low class. I doubt Steve would mind having Tom Osborne as our OC regardless of age issues (I wouldn’t!).

And the worst part of it is, I have nothing against Iowa. Why would I – they’re clearly a better team (and University – haha) than Iowa State. And yet we still beat them more than twice for every game they take. But then again, I’m pretty much a universal Big 10 at this point. That will probably change eventually…

by GoBigRed - Josh on Jun 14, 2011 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Furthermore, Pelini needs to bring down the rants

1) Pelini goes haywire in a game
2) Media jumps on Pelini for acting crazy
3) Osborne talks to Pelini about how to act like a Vulcan
4) Pelini basically stays calm for the next game, we easily win

If that happened once, I’d say we’re past it. But that’s happened 2-3 times in the past couple years and I doubt it will stop. Love Pelini’s intensity, but maybe needs some additional mental “training” sessions from Osborne or a shrink.

by GoBigRed - Josh on Jun 14, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Either you live off of assumptions, or you enjoy puting words into my mouth.

1. I never made fun of Dantonio’s condition. (Please re-read)

2. I never bet on him having any sort of issues on the sideline. I simply said he was more “risky” than a tempermental coach to the program.

3. You seem to be agreeing with me in the fact that I said, and quote me, Nebraska could expect “middle-of-the-pack” results from the 2011 season, which pretty much matches your 50% odds assement above.

by SteveW0720 on Jun 14, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you guys

watch that A&M game? The field was a Vivid Entertainment owned dark basement, and we were the “talent” fresh off the bus from Valentine.

We wanted to be stars, but we ended up getting thrown into a pretty aggressive hucklebuck by that bespectacled douche bag to Pelini’s left.

He is informing Bo that, after he gets his fist up there, he likes to bump it up a notch by extending his fingers. Bo is not a fan of that pleasure strategy, clearly preferring the tried and true shocker method. They argued about it. It got pretty heated!

Seriously though, anybody would have lost their mind coaching Nebraska in that game. Some of those calls were egregious, I mean, almost incomprehensible.

by Nebula on Jun 14, 2011 11:35 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

The second worst officiated game I have ever watched

Truly a sad day for officiating. However, I do agree with several others that if I were a ref I would have wanted to give the middle finger to Pelini in the form of yellow flags.

But then again that was the only game I ever watched where I was as angry as Pelini with the refs. Still, after seeing the Oregon-Oklahoma fiasco, at least I know we aren’t the only team to ever get jobbed.

by GoBigRed - Josh on Jun 14, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, no.

Now the Iowa fans are going to bring up the Capitol One or Outback or Whatever bowl they played in against Florida where there were some spectacularly bad calls.

But no Iowa player got fisted – and 30 yards worth of personal fouls on him, to boot.

by Albino Tornado on Jun 14, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

How did Iowa get thrown in there?

I watched the UNL – A&M game, it was the worst officiating evah. Iowa fan here.

by ryjadubya on Jun 14, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

My prediction – “Keeping the Enemy Close” day is going to cause problems for the mods.

by txhawkeye on Jun 14, 2011 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Preview

This is what happened last summer.

In the deed, the glory.
Corn Nation!

by Aaron Musfeldt on Jun 14, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow, don't know what happened there

but I went over there to check it out and randomly scrolled down to the middle of the message board and this is the first comment I read. Don’t even want to find out where the hell this got started.

An evolved myelin sheath? But wouldn’t severe fetal alcohol syndrome or a lack of prenatal care in general inhibit the formation of such a thing? There’s got to be an explanation…damn…there must be!
by williewildcrack on Jul 15, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions

.

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jun 14, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares if his head explodes?

I love Pelini, and I cannot for the life of me understand why people direct so much hate in his direction. I get it, he made some mistakes. The aTm game was a disaster, but we had a guy literally molested on the outside of the scrum (I don’t want to hear the argument it happens in every pile because this was clearly outside of the pile and in plain sight). To make matters worst, that guy was penalized for trying to kick said molester. I’d be pretty angry about the way things were going too. Of course, we lost because our offense sucked that game (would’ve been a non-issue if Shawn Watson had ANY identity at all). Anyways, I guess my point is that I don’t think fans can be happy with anything. As a Nebraska fan, I was happy we had a guy who genuinely cared enough to get angry about it. Billy C always looked like he was on to the next event in his calendar during games, Solich was probably a little drunk, and TO is a legend that won’t be rivaled by anyone anytime soon. I’d rather have hot-headed but engaged then calm and bored.

by KennardHusker on Jun 14, 2011 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

HOLY SHIZNIT

… the exchange on this thread has been irretrievably beyond retarded. As (another) Husker fan, I am pretty embarrassed.

Don’t talk to Steve.

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by crusader34 on Jun 14, 2011 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Husker on Husker crime has been prevalent for years.

You wanna talk about a fan base that fractured itself? There are husker boards out there who don’t allow new members because they don’t want to get infected with new ideas.

by Albino Tornado on Jun 15, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has anyone brought up the point ...

that if Pelini loses his mind over bad officiating he may not make it to November of his first Big 10 season?

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by Blackheartnopants on Jun 14, 2011 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow!!!!

Look at what the OFFSEASON HAS DONE TO YOU PEOPLE!!!!!

Woohoooo!!!! I wondered what happened if we all got together in a point/counterpoint article and this is it!

Now, some of you sumbitches better come over to Corn Nation once in a while. Or else.

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by Jon Johnston on Jun 14, 2011 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

This isn't reality TV

The media seems to think the doors should always be open, the cameras rolling, ready to catch everything that goes on with this team. Reporters may “have a job to do,” but just as much as you have the right to ask the question, Pelini has the right to take you to the woodshed for it. If you don’t like his answers, stop asking questions. As much as you would like to think so, no one really cares. It’s his “family” right now, and like it or not, you’re not part of it. We’re lucky enough to have one of the greatest football programs in the nation. How the coach decides to coach, is up to him. I praise Pelini for his no nosense approach. These young men are playing college football, not golf. Funny how some people try to make such a big deal about Pelini’s coaching style, yet any single player on this team would lay in front of a train for him.

Looking forward to a great season. GO BIG RED!!

by Husker_Pilot on Jun 15, 2011 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

I love this entitlement the media believes it has, as if every coach and player has to talk to them and give them a smiling answer. Last year, the retarded questions thrown at Pelini were amazing, almost to the point of laughter. So yeah, Pelini will tell you to shut the hell up. It’s his team, not yours. The funnier point? THE ONLY PEOPLE TELLING PELINI TO BEHAVE WITH THE MEDIA, IS SAID MEDIA! No one else gives a shit. Write about something else other than your feelings. Your sports reporters damnit.

by KHusker on Jun 16, 2011 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

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