B1G 2011 Nebraska // 4th and 6 Bad Coaches
Timing is everything. If the Big Ten had waited two years to pursue expansion, after Nebraska had already been kicked out of the AAU, would they be a Big Ten member now? Quite possibly, no. And, what if the Big Ten decided to pursue expansion after the 2007 season, as Nebraska football was humiliated (more on this later) multiple times. Would the Big Ten have been seen as having hit a home run in the process? Maybe, but it is nicer taking a team that has gone to back-to-back Big XII title games.
And it was thinking about that dark year in recent Nebraska history that made me (fondly) remember Bill Callahan. What he achieved in Lincoln was, without hyperbole, one of the worst coaching tenures in college football history. I'll go into the details below, but as we start integrating the Huskers into the conference, one of the things that we can look at is the commonalities. Nebraska is not the only school that has hired a coach that has been miserable. So, let's take a look at the six worst over the last 40 years.
Bill Callahan coaching his last game for Nebraska.
First, it has to be more than just a horrific winning percentage. Otherwise, this list would start and end in Evanston. No, to have a truly horrible tenure, you have to make a program worse than it was before you arrived. And, if your successor can demonstrate that your tenure was the miserable anomaly, all the better. There's a lot of subjectivity in this, obviously, but I feel comfortable saying that these men not only failed to bring anything to the table, they sawed off one of their program's table legs and ate it like a spare rib. On to the list...
But first, a note on Rich Rodriguez. He's not on this list. He's not close to making it, and I want to pre-but comments that he should be here. Yes, Rich Rod broke Michigan's streaks of 40 consecutive winning seasons and 34 consecutive bowl appearances. But, he's also the only coach I looked at for this list who was fired immediately after leading his team to a bowl game. You can argue back and forth as to whether RichRod deserved a fourth season in Ann Arbor. In the end, Michigan was better in his last year than in his first. And that to me, means that the tenure was not nearly as miserable as what you are about to review.
Dishonorable Mention:
These guys were bad. Every one of them. But for whatever reason, be it winning percentage, the state of the program they inherited, or the lack of potential success at their program at that moment, they don't quite make the list.
Tim Brewster, Minnesota 2007-10, 15-30
Gerry DiNardo, Indiana 2002-04, 8-27
Dennis Green, Northwestern 1981-1985, 10-45
Frank Lauterber, Iowa 1971-73, 4-28
Don Morton, Wisconsin 1987-89, 6-27
John Pont, Northwestern 1973-77, 12-43
John L. Smith, Michigan State 2003-06, 22-26
Bobby Williams, Michigan State 1999-2002, 16-17
The List:
6. Jim Wacker, Minnesota 1992-96, 16-39
The Jim Wacker hire made perfect sense. He had cut his teeth with great success at North Dakota State. From there, he went to Texas, where he first led Texas State to back-to-back Division II National Championships and then led TCU (and this is not the TCU of this decade) from disaster to a winning record. Connection to the Upper Midwest? Connection to Texas recruiting? Great hire. And a great big pile of failure. If four years, Wacker never made it past four wins. His predecessor won six games in four of his last six seasons. His successor got Minnesota to 8 wins in three years.
5. Leon Burtnett, Purdue 1982-86, 21-34
One of the great forgotten stories of the Big Ten is the success of Purdue in the late 70s and early 80s (similarly, that Jim Young is never mentioned among the best coaches in the conference is criminal). The Boilers problem was that they could never quite get over the hump to win the conference title. Jim Young's 1979 squad was one of two that has to be considered as best non-Ohio State/Michigan Big Ten team from the decade. But after 1981, Jim Young quit. Purdue had won 9, 10, and 9 games in three of Young's last four seasons. The program won 67% of its games in five years. Leon Burtnett was brought in as his successor in West Lafayette. In Burtnett's five seasons, the Boilers managed one 6 win season, and sunk to the third three-win season of his tenure in 1986. The plug was pulled. Purdue would have two more bad coaches and ten years before Joe Tiller pulled the program from the depths.
4. Frank "Muddy" Waters, Michigan State 1980-82, 10-23
If 1979 Purdue wasn't the best non-Ohio State/Michigan team of the 1970s, than it's only because of Darryl Rogers' 1978 Spartans team that went 8-3 (7-1) and won a share of the Big Ten title (the only share between the three-way tie of 1967 and Iowa's breakthrough of 1981 to leave Columbus or Ann Arbor). Rogers spent one more year in East Lansing before moving on to Arizona State. Replacing him was a Hall of fame coach, Frank "Muddy" Waters. After leading a dominant D-II program at Hillsdale College, and literally creating the program at Saginaw Valley State, Waters finally stepped into the big time. It didn't go well. After 50 years of coaches who left Michigan State with winning tenures, Waters couldn't manage a winning season, picking up 3, 5, and 2 wins in his three years. George Perles took over in 1983, had Sparty in a bowl game in two years, and won the league in five years. From Jim Crowley in 1929 through Nick Saban in 1999, only Waters failed to achieve a winning record at Michigan State.
3. Bill Callahan, Nebraska, 2004-07, 27-22
It's a tribute to Nebraska's history of dominance that Bill Callahan is on this list. After all, the man had a winning record at the school. He "bottomed out" at 5 wins. Here's where subjective factors have so much more to do with it. Frank Solich coached the Huskers for 6 years, and Nebraska won 9 games or more in 5 of the 6. The "down year" was a 7-7 campaign that concluded with an exciting loss to Eli Manning's Ole Miss squad in the Independence Bowl. He won a Big XII championship and coached for a BCS Title. After he was run out of town, the decision was made that the next coach would have to be able to implement a more "modern" offense. Enter Bill Callahan. Enter the first losing season since 1961 (the year before Bob Devaney took over). Exit the record 35 consecutive seasons with a bowl appearance. 2005 saw the end of the 36 game winning streak over Kansas.
Any joy from an Alamo Bowl win over Michigan and a Big 12 North Division title was obliterated in 2007. The once-proud Husker defense gave up 38 points per game. The Huskers didn't just lose. They were embarrassed. They gave up 49 points to USC. They barely escaped Ball St., 41-40. They lost by 35 to Mizzou. They lost by 31 to Oklahoma State and 22 to Texas A&M, both in Lincoln. They gave up 65 points to Colorado. But in the coup de grace, Kansas - the same batch of Jayhawks who had been rolled for the three-and-a-half decades before Callahan arrived, beat Nebraska 76-39. If it's possible, the game wasn't that close. Another five win season without a bowl game was the merciless end. The three coaches before Callahan all won 75% of their games. In the 4 years following, Bo Pelini has won 71% of his games. Yeah, Callahan had a winning record, but a lamppost could coach Nebraska and get to six wins. Of course, lampposts are generally pretty bright...
2. Gary Moeller, Illinois 1977-79, 6-24-3
Let's be clear: the early-1970s Illini under Bob Blackmon were not world beaters. But, Illinois had established itself as a mid-pack Big Ten squad. They won five or six games in the last four years of his tenure. Blackmon was gone, and Gary Moeller and Illinois would have six wins total over next three years. How bad was it? Moeller's Illini shared the state with a school mired in one of the worst periods in college football history. Northwestern went 2-30-1 during Moeller's three years at Illinois. One of those wins and the tie came at the expense of the Illini. His successor, Mike White, would get Illinois to a winning record in two seasons and to a Rose Bowl in four. Moeller wouldn't make the Rose Bowl until he coached Michigan there after the 1991 and 1992 seasons.
1. Rick Venturi, Northwestern 1978-1980, 1-31-1
Let's start with a baseline here. Between Ara Pharsegian and Pat Fitzgerald, no coach has left Northwestern with a winning record. There's been fifty years of losing records in between those two men. And if you want to argue that John Pont, Alex Agase, Dennis Green, and Francis Peay deserve to be on this list, you can make strong cases for each of them. But, what Rick Venturi accomplished deserves special mention. Northwestern had a winning record in 1971. Under John Pont, Northwestern was a bad Big Ten team. They never had a winning record, but they managed at least one Big Ten win each season.

Venturi. We don't know what he's celebrating.
Venturi transitioned Northwestern from a bad Big Ten team to a national laughingstock. He managed a scoreless tie against Moeller's Illinois squad in his first game. He then lost 11 games. He managed a five point win over Wyoming. He lost his next 20 games (This started the still-record 34 game Wildcat losing streak.). These ildcats' (there were no Ws in Evanston) transition to a Big Ten contender in the mid-90s is all the more remarkable when you consider just how bad they were.
The Takeaway
And what of the present? Do we have any historically bad coaches in our ranks now? If you look through the list and the mentions, you'll find that there has generally been at least one horrible coach at every point of the Big Ten's last 40 years. Are we so lucky to be absent one now? Probably not.
Let's rule some out. The successes by the current coaches at Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan State, and Northwestern (relative to their predecessors and school's respective histories) prevent them from ever making this list. I imagine that Luke Fickell will either spend a year as a caretaker and be moved along, or will be successful enough to stay in Columbus for a while. Either way, I don't suspect that he'd make this list. Ron Zook has almost matched the performance of just about every Illinois coach since Bob Zuppke. He may not be great, but he's par for Illinois.
And then there were four. Here's the thing about the new hires at Michigan, Indiana, and Minnesota. We don't know. They could turn out to be brilliant program builders. They could turn out, in each case, to be worse than their predecessor. And before you scream that it can't happen, look at the list above. Each was a new hire, who was prepared to lead their school back to glory. Just like Brady Hoke, Jerry Kill, and Kevin Wilson are.

Atrociously Bad?
And so we look to West Lafayette. Now, I've already said that I believe that Purdue is going to get to six wins this season. But, what if they don't? What if they struggle to another 4-8 record and Danny Hope is fired with a 3 year Purdue mark of 13-23? Would he belong on this list? I think so. I think that for taking over a program that had winning seasons in 10 of 12 years and then failing to win 40% of his games, he would rank as worse than Wacker. And then you're left arguing whether Hope is worse than Burtnett - and that's only fun if you're a Hoosier.
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I don't know how Brewster ISN'T on this list
Minnesota was a consistent mid-tier B1G program that was a perennial bowl team, and Mase, for all his faults, was over .500 as the Gophers coach. Brewster immediately went 1-11, a bowl in years 2 and 3, then 1-6 before getting fired during his last season…in which the interim coach won more games than Brewster did, and won the only rivalry game of the Brewster era.
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by Ted Glover on Jun 15, 2011 7:14 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
He was a close call.
Time may be unkind to Brewster. If Kill can rattle off bowl seasons like Mason did, it would bolster the case.
I gave Brewster credit for making bowls in two of his four years.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Making two bowls...
…and losing both of them to equally mediocre Big XII teams. And don’t forget losing all 11 trophy games. Or that he shot-called a trip to the Rose Bowl.
That’s the Tim Brewster I remember
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
For me Wilson is the unknown
Hoke is going to make Mich respectable again (and at least give my Buckeyes a challenge). But I personally think that Jerry Kill is going to be the new hire who’s going to shock the B1G status quo. I just get a vibe from this guy that he’s the real deal.
The challenge for Minn is going to be how they keep him once he proves it. Imagine who’d be knocking at your door if in 3-4 years you got Minn to the B1G CCG.
Also, good research Bama. I had no idea that Moeller was the HC at Illinois in the late 70’s.
Kill doesn't seem like the kinda guy who'd run
If Kill took MN to the B1G CCG, where else is there really to go?
A program with a rich history – check.
Playing in a major conference – check.
Midwest guy in a Midwest school – check.
Looking like the mascot – double check
He doesn’t seem like the type to put up with all the glitz and backroom dealings at an ESS EEE CEE school, plus he’s an older guy who’s already had health problems. All that makes me think that MN is probably where he’ll be until he decides he’s done (or somebody else decides it for him)
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
I hope you're right
Some upheaval in the West would help my Buckeyes get thru this upcoming transitional period.
But I also think if a big time program started courting him, he would at least mull it over. Minn would definitely have to pony up some $$$ to get him to stay.
Minny has the money
We’re one of a handful of NCAA schools that has three revenue generating sports, despite how bad the hockey team has been lately, and they built the stadium to expand to 80k if/when we’d need it. We also pour a ton of cash at the non-revenue sports so we can win meaningless Border Battle Cups against Wisconsin and make appearances in wrestling, baseball and indoor track & field
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
er...
Profit generating sports, not revenue
And I’m curious to see how B1G hockey will change that….
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
The Golden Goofballs really should retire Goldy
Your’e absolutely right, Coach Kill does indeed look like a Gopher
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jun 15, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
NC Buckeye
I am optimistic about Kill and hope you’re right. The good news for him is that Brewster recruited pretty well, and MarQueis Gray was made to run Kill’s multiple run first, multiple look option heavy offense. I particularly think Gray will be nasty running the mid-line option out of the pistol, and hitting guys on play action passes.
2 things about Kill. He’s not particularly young, and he’s a (fairly recent) cancer survivor. That has scared a lot of teams away in the past. I also get the feeling Jerry is old school, and if Minnesota pays him in a way that is commensurate with his success, I could see him staying a long while.
And the profound ineptness really had to be seen to be believed.
Brewster didn’t just make the Gophers losers. He made us truly bad. I’m not sure what the difference really is, but you see teams lose all the time that look like they know how to play football. I don’t know, Virginia or something. Even a MACrifice against Ohio State. Brewster’s teams never looked like they could ever be good, or could ever look good regardless of the talent and coaching of the opposition. The fact that the entire team seemed to age a season or two in as many weeks in the Horton era is as damning an indictment as I can imagine for an ousted football coach.
by Erik T on Jun 15, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great column
As a Northwestern fan (albeit one who didn’t become a fan until I applied/got in in 1996-97, so my knowledge comes from historical study not being a suffering fan at the time), there is nothing I can disagree with here — Venturi was a historically bad coach. Ditto Dennis Green and John Pont. (I might take slight issue with Agase being an honorable mention).
Then again, there’s more to it than coaching — NU’s administration was notorious for failing to support athletics for most of the time period between Parseghian and Barnett, and even considered dropping out of the Big Ten altogether, I believe. The recent string of success for Northwestern (or relative success — basically everything since 1995) owes a lot to an administration that has finally seen the light on the benefits of having a successful athletics department on the rest of the university (i.e. applications surged following the 1995-96 Big Ten championship years; alumni donations increase proportionally to how athletics is doing, etc.). Lucky for us Cats fans, the new president — Morton Schapiro — is a HUGE sports fan…..as seen here in this video of him celebrating a Sid Stewart Outback Bowl TD.
Denny Green
Didn’t win because he was a sleeper agent we planted to sabotage your program from the inside.
You think programs would learn that trying to “take it to the next level” is usually a bad idea but people keep on doing it. Minnesota, Iowa State and Nebraska have all been guilty of this in the past 10 years and it’s continuously brought hilarious results.
It was about not surrendering the conference to Texas and Oklahoma
And not descending to mediocrity.
Yeah, we blew clean past mediocrity straight to eyes-bleeding-awful.
And Cosgrove was the biggest sleeper agent of all.
by Albino Tornado on Jun 15, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly!
Cosgrove is as much at fault as Billy C. While I try to remember that era as the lost years, all that keeps coming back to me is the futility that was Cosgrove’s ‘bend-not-break’ defense giving up 1000 points to Kansas… It wasn’t 1000? Are we sure? Can someone check on that for me?
by KennardHusker on Jun 15, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Cosgrove
should make this list. My Lord, his defenses at Wisconsin were BAD. From 2000 to 2003, the problem was consistently Cosgrove’s defenses (or lack thereof).
I have no idea why Nebraska hired him, but they did. Smart move, there.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 15, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Because he and Callahan were buds!
Yeah, when Wisconsin just let him go, no problem, good luck, have fun, I wondered what was up. Fucking Alvarez owes us for that snow job.
by Albino Tornado on Jun 15, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You should have known better
than to hire someone who coordinated defenses that lost to Minnesota twice.
The fact that we had our entire defensive line drafted after the 2004 season is nothing short of incredible considering the buffoon who was running the show.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 16, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
More evidence...
…for Brew’s inclusion on the list. The Cosgrove Connection.
by GoAUpher on Jun 16, 2011 10:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought jNW didn’t start playing football until 1996?
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Don't be silly
The tired meme is that football started in 1995.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Two p
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Ugh.
Two “p’s” in Zuppke.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Typo
Thanks.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I figured as much.
Thanks for fixing it.
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There are oh so many RichRod buts....
…the team may have been better in his third year but only because they were so epically bad in the prior two. For a team with Michigan’s proud and long standing tradition of football dominance, RichRod flushed them down the toilet. RichRod was the Todd Lickliter of Michigan football.
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it's all about
sticking to a system that worked somewhere else but totally failed in the B10
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Ehh, RR failed because his defense was awful. His offense wasn't bad, especially when he got Denard.
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If you want to hold the AAU thing against Nebraska, fine.
But considering that if its Med school reported to the UNL chancellor vs. having its own head, the metrics used against Nebraska fall apart, you are being more than a bit unfair.
Consider the AAU ranking of research schools below…
http://ucommxsrv1.unl.edu/downloadables/pdf/UNLAAU.pdf
(Yeah, it takes a while to upload) You will see that U of Alabama – Birmingham outranks around 40% of the current AAU membership. Does anyone honestly think that UAB will get an AAU invite anytime soon? Or in our lifetimes? Yet, this model is what was held against UNL. Additionally, since the AAU also decided to have a review of its membership procedures after this situation, I dare say that don’t expect any apologies from Nebraska over this.
Engineering wouldn't be so bad if occam's razor worked.
I am not justifying
the AAU decision. Did Nebby get worse as an institution because it was kicked out? Absolutely not. But, membership has been important to the Big Ten presidents for a long time. If Nebby was not a member at the time of expansion, there would have been a lot of statements that would have had to been walked back.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he's holding the AAU issue against Nebraska.
There are a lot of “what if’s” regarding Nebraska in the Big Ten. He is simply speculating Nebraska’s inclusion into the conference if they weren’t in the AAU.
Besides if he was using it as a point to be-little the university, I’m sure he would have gone into greater detail instead of it being a side note in his story.
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by Aaron Musfeldt on Jun 15, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Just figured I'd point this out...
Even Delany said that ND isn’t a AAU member and the big ten still tried to get them. So, he said, that didn’t impact Nebraska’s attractiveness much.
by Fake Pelini on Jun 15, 2011 8:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
They were a member at the time they agreed to join.
You’re jumbling facts.
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I'll clarify
After Neb getting kicked out of the AAU, which was also after Neb joined the B10, Delany commented and said it didn’t have a significant impact on how Nebraska was viewed and as evidence he pointed out Notre Dame also was not an AAU member when the B10 was trying to get them.
by Fake Pelini on Jun 15, 2011 8:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
True, but
Notre Dame is an outstanding academic institution. Nebby is average.
In the end, it was all about FOOTBALL anyway. The AAU membership was just a little lipstick on the pig, so to speak.
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by Flakbait on Jun 15, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dishonorable Mention?
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Smirnoff Ices?
“The Zook” will have two
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
I imagine he's more of a zima man
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Zook is not close
Look, he’s not a good coach. We all get it. But he’s had two winning seasons, same as his two predecessors. He’s been to two bowl games, one of which was a BCS game. His winning percentage is better than his predecessor, and he inherited a team that won 1 and 3 games in the two years before his arrival.
I hate that I have to defend him, but my early guess is that there are at least 20 worse Big Ten coaching tenures from the last 40 years.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
He's also dragged in talent by the boatload
He just make stupid coaching decisions… but they’re a good team when they show up
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
Honestly, I have nothing against the Zooker
other than him listening to the Juice in 07 and allowing him to go for the 4th and 1 instead of punting. I lost a piece of my soul that day. Plus, any chance to post that picture, or the waterskiing one, should be taken.
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What Bama said
But I’ll even say he’s not a terrible coach. He’s not a world beater, but a lot of his problem still comes from his days at Florida and the fireronzook.com stuff.
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AAU
Embarrassing, certainly, but the sting is eased somewhat by another rumored expansion candidate’s (Syracuse) forced withdrawal. For better or worse, Nebraska went down swinging by forcing a vote. How or why we were ousted is spilled milk.
I don’t think this post is a knock against Nebraska, but certainly AAU membership was touted at the time we were accepted into the B1G, so we can’t now say that it never really mattered. May not have been a make or break criteria, but it was certainly something that was presented as a positive factor in Nebraska’s (and B1G’s) favor.
How or why we were ousted..
Texas
by Fake Pelini on Jun 15, 2011 8:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Texas didn't out Nebraska
There may be a underlying motive to condense the group, and Neb (and probably others in the future) got the ax, but I doubt that this is some sort Texas screw job.
UT is too busy eating the world to worry about us. That and trying to figure out how to beat Kansas State.
Engineering wouldn't be so bad if occam's razor worked.
"Oust", btw, not "out"
but it does make my post a bit funnier.
L’il Red will soon be posting bare chested photos on twitter that are meant for Sparty.
Engineering wouldn't be so bad if occam's razor worked.
Um, no.
Take off the tinfoil hat, man.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jun 15, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it was a big deal
because it was a part of the overall package of sharing more academically when we made the decision to join the Big Ten.
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 15, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Losing by 31 to Oklahoma State - at home - undersells it.
The halftime score… 41-0. The stadium was half-empty after halftime, as everyone went back to their tailgates looking for antifreeze to drink. Thank God I was watching it at a bar and didn’t buy the Pay-per-view.
My recollection is that Pedersen was gone on Tuesday or so following that game; that game set the table to Osborne to fire Callahan – the other losses (giving up 200 yards to Jamaal Charles in the 4th quarter? 76 to Kansas?!) were frosting on the cake.
My wife who grew up in Sioux City, giggled as that score kept flashing at the bottom of the screen. My joy came when I was in a hotel bar in Houston with KU and Nebby employees as the 2007 game was going on
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
At least it was the end of Callahan.
The Kansas game was such a terrible game. Ugh… I’ll never forget watching KU beat us into submission, and thinking the only thing that was making it bearable was the 35 years of absolute domination. How we managed to go out and maul K-State the next week still boggles the mind. While we’re here, though, how great is it that we won’t have to deal with PPV anymore? I don’t think B1G fans understand how infuriating this has been.
by KennardHusker on Jun 15, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
That PPV deal was BS
I would be pissed if I had to deal with that ish to watch my favorite teams. BTN is pretty boss.
Well, you end up coping with it in one of three ways.
1. Go to the game. Usually there are deals to be had on the secondary market (by that, I mean at the stadium.)
2. Go to the bar. If the game costs 40 bucks to get on my tv, I can go to the local watering hole and at least get fed and tipsy on that in addition to watching the game.
3. Have a festive gathering, and pass the hat.
by Albino Tornado on Jun 15, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Maul K-State?
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"If you don't tell him what he wants to hear, he's going to find you out. And when he does, they're going to tear your head off and throw your BODY OUT OF AN AIRLOCK!" - Number Six, "Bastille Day"
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 15, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Nebraska's scores over the last three games of Callahan's tenure
39-76 (Kansas)
73-31 (Kansas State)
51-65 (Colorado)
I mean, tell me that’s not a GERGening right there.
by Albino Tornado on Jun 15, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Or a multiple
Gergasm?
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
RichRod has to be on the list
and should be #1. He won 6 conference games at Michigan in 3 years. Michigan averages winning 6 conference games a year. He has the #1, #2, and #3 worst years in conference for Michigan since 1965, a feat I don’t think any coach on this list accomplished except for possibly Callahan and Venturi.
Other misses:
Jim Valek of Illinois
Gerry DiNardo of Indiana
this
I read through and kept think he was going to be #1, and then nothing.
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
To be fair, Bama clarified his RRod exclusion immediately after the jump.
For Iowa fans, the only thing keeping Bob Commings off has to have been following the putrid years before him – like 13 or so. I do not remember those years fondly. Hiring HS football coaches, FTW.
Commings
was “helped” by the fact that Lauterber actually performed worse.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, but I still thought he'd be there
kind of like the ending of an M Night Shyamalan movie.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Not worth the time you put in?
that’s about right
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
every time i think of M Night
I think of that episode of Sunny.
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Where is that Slumdog?!

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
I have a hard time accepting the exclusion of RichRod
you have to make a program worse than it was before you arrived.
Carr may have had some issues, but RichRod took a ship with a leak and set it on fire
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
But beat Florida in the Cap one Bowl
And Lloyd never lost to Toledo.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
There's a quote from Cracked that I think applies here
" Imagine you’re trying to teach your son to play baseball. You teach him the rules, how to throw, how to swing and when you tell him to go for it, he throws the ball into the side of his own head, runs the wrong way and tries to sell a blowjob to an undercover cop."
by nuftw on Jun 15, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Any and all Cracked references are insta-recs.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
I gotta agree.
What he did to Michigan was not analogous to what Callahan did to Nebraska, it was THE EXACT SAME THING.
Offensive genius HC? Check.
Incompetent boob DC? Check.
Complete offensive overhaul? Check.
Dividing the fan base on hire? Check.
by Albino Tornado on Jun 15, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
HC w/ too much credit for successes with previous team? Check.
Unrealistic goals for said HC? Check.
Skol!
I gotta agree
Well, Clownahan was hardly an offensive genius.
Sure, he racked up endless yds/pts at garbage time when NU was hopelessly blown out and we were playing the opponent’s waterboys so it made the annual stats look a LOT better than they really were. Seven years later, we’re finally purged from his fluffball.
Oh boy, we NU fans feel for ya Michigan. It ain’t easy…..
MICHIGAN SUCKS!
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Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog
"If you don't tell him what he wants to hear, he's going to find you out. And when he does, they're going to tear your head off and throw your BODY OUT OF AN AIRLOCK!" - Number Six, "Bastille Day"
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 15, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
GRIZZEEEN
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 16, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Thoughts
1) Valek was outside of the time period.
2) DiNardo got a dishonorable mention. He was bad, but relative to Indiana’s performances before and after him, he wasn’t that far from the norm.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't sure if 1970 was with the "past 40 years"
By the way, I wrote a fan post on this idea a while back, but didn’t post because of the Pryor hubbub. I’m going to put it up now. Let me know what you think.
Solid takeaway
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
He had the second worst conference record of any coach in the period
only beating out Rick “0-26-1” Venturi. That has to count for something, even if it is Indiana.
Was Lynch's tenure too short for mention?
Three years and 3 wins may be normative for Indiana but it almost looked like Hoeppner was beginning to breath life into the team before his tragic end. Plus he was batshit crazy on the sidelines.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Lynch
did get Indiana to a bowl game. And IT’S INDIANA FOOTBALL!
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jun 15, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
[instert 1 Belcher dropped ball away from losing joke here]
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
Not Iowa's fault he didn't catch that gift.
Now you ain't gonna come up here and steal Pepper Jack's best ho.
Can we please get back to the orginal topic?
Meaning OSU.
It’s like you guys forgot that this is the SBN OSU blog….
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 12:45 PM CDT reply actions
How's this:
Fickell is doomed. If he’s a one year guy, whoever comes after him is doomed.
sound spretty much in-line with all the other stuff
but you both got the joke, good job.
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, the one you're allowed to participate in, anyway
by Albino Tornado on Jun 15, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Subject lines are baaaaad, mmmkay?
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
subject lines out of spite.
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 15, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Denny Green was Big Ten Coach of the Year!
Sure, they only won 3 games that year (1982), but in doing so he broke The Epic Losing Streak, and that was worthy of the accolades.
No mention of Joe Salem?
Joe Salem went 19-35-1 as HC at Minnesota from 1979 to 1983. Not Venturi territory, but not good either. Over the last fifty years we have had a lot of bad coaches to choose from…
Since this is Nebraska week, it should be noted that in Salem’s last season in the TC, when he went 1-11, the Gophers lost 84-13 to Nebraska.
by Midnight Rambler on Jun 15, 2011 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
But Gopher football was bad before Salem
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
I like to say
that if I ever meet Bill Callahan, I’d kick him square in the nuts for kicking me in mine the whole ’07 season.
Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.
Callahan should be number one on any list of horrible coaches.
Memorial Stadium has never felt more like a funeral than against Oklahoma St. in 2007. And no one should ever allow Kansas to score 76 points. Everyone on my dorm floor got together and had a party to watch the press conference when he was fired and again when Osborne was hired.
Love it
Great list. Good to see that there is always someone who went through worse (unless you were a fan of Northwestern in the late 1970s).
Not having vast experience with the history of B1G coaches outside from my school, this list looks very reasonable and defensible.
Thankfully when you remember any of the coaches on this list they were almost too bad for there to be any lingering pain. It kind of becomes just “funny” thinking about losing by X to Toledo or Kansas.
by GoBigRed - Josh on Jun 16, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions



















