The B1G Social Network
We interrupt your regularly scheduled holy-shit-Jim-Sweatervest-Tressel-resigns and Iowa B1G 2011 programming to bring you this special report, on the state of the B1G social union. (Don't worry Hawkeye fans, there's stuff in here that is relevant to your interests. I promise.)
A few months ago, when we first got into the off-season, I wrote an article about allegiances and hatreds in the conference. I'd noticed through informal chatting with the other writers on this site that many of us had allegiances and rivalries in addition to the teams that we loved and hated. These were the teams that we would always cheer for or against if we watched them play on any given Saturday afternoon. Often, these secondary team choices were surprising, built on geography and family histories that we don't usually talk about.
So, in an effort to fill the gaping void in my content output, I surveyed our writers and asked them to write up paragraphs naming their secondary favorites and enemies, and briefly explaining where their feelings came from. The article proved more popular than I expected, and more than two hundred comments later, many members of our reader community had weighed in with their own opinions. Which, like the box office receipts of Thor, meant there was obviously going to be a sequel.
For Part 2 I combed through the comments and put together graphs of how our community as a whole felt about the different schools in the conference. Who was the most liked? Hated? And then, like any good lawyer, I offered completely unsubstantiated opinions to fully explain the results.
But then, a few weeks after that post dropped, I realized it didn't really tell the whole story. Sure, it was nice to see who we liked or hated as a community, but wouldn't it be more interesting to see how the fans of specific schools felt about every other individual school in the conference? Wouldn't writing that story be a good way to procrastinate all of the work I was actually supposed to be doing at any given moment?
The answer to both these questions was obviously yes.
So I went back to the data. I combined information from our writers as well as from the comments on the first and second articles. I gave each opinion a weight based on whether the person expressing it could be considered a primary or secondary fan, with the opinions of primary fans being weighted twice as heavily.
It's relatively simple - feelings were expressed with +1/-1 (secondary fan preference) or +2/-2 (primary fan preference). So a person who identifies as a primary Michigan fan and secondary Penn State fan with a primary hatred of Ohio State and secondary hatreds of Michigan State and Wisconsin would generate +2 for Michigan, -2 for OSU, +1 for PSU, and -1 for both MSU and Wisconsin. I collected all of these feelings in two matrices, one for feelings of like, and one for feelings of hatred. And then to see it all together I broke it down by school into color coded bar strips.
The result is something I like to call the B1G Social Network. It's a look into the ties that bind all of us within this crazy Midwestern conference. Like relatives gathered for thanksgiving, there are many degrees of affection, hatred, and apathy. Keep on reading to find out where your school stands...
First, a note about the results. Our community, while diverse, is not evenly distributed. Some schools in the conference have more fans or haters than others, which naturally meant more opinions to sift through. So any given value listed under a school is a product both of the number of responses as well as the intensity of feeling. Sometimes schools had quite a few responses, but a diversity of opinions, producing a scattered result.
To start, let's take a look at the overall "like" graph:
And the hate graph...
These graphs are read by looking at the school on the left and moving horizontally. So, fans of Iowa seem to feel positively about Penn State, giving them a +16 rating, by far the highest on their like graph. On the other hand, they really don't like Ohio State, rating them at -16 on their hate graph.
Of course, looking at affection and dislike separately is only so useful. To really get to the feelings of the fan communities as a whole, I had to combine them. So that's exactly what I did. I added the positive and negative ratings together and then laid them out in colored strips, moving from the most hated schools on the left, to the most loved. Sometimes the results surprised me...
Illinois, Indiana, and Iowa:
Illinois and Indiana both suffered from a dearth of responses. But we still got enough to make a few judgments. It's not really a surprise that both schools hate their in-state rivals - Northwestern for Illinois and Purdue for Indiana - but after that it gets interesting. Illinois then also dislikes Iowa and Michigan, both nearby geographic rivals, but doesn't seem to mind Wisconsin or Indiana. They feel slightly positive about Michigan State and Minnesota... perhaps because of the second fiddle status these schools have often played in their states or the conference as a whole? It is a surprise that Hoosier fans hate Ohio State more than they hate Purdue... and that they like Michigan State, despite the basketball rivalry these schools are likely to have in the near future.
Next up we have Iowa. Oh Iowa. So much hate. Hawkeye fans seem to dislike a wide variety of conference members. They can't stand Buckeyes, but also aren't exactly on speaking terms with Gophers or Wolverines. After that they dislike Huskers, Wildcats, Boilermakers, and Illini nearly as much. Most of these schools are either traditional or new rivals, or schools that the Hawkeyes have experienced futility against in recent years.
Iowa fans don't really feel apathy towards any school in the conference, but they come the closest with Indiana. As far as positive feelings go, they like Wisconsin a little bit, Michigan State slightly more, and they've got a gigantic crush on the Nittany Lions. They're like BFFs, omg. (Yeah, I can't believe I just wrote that either.)
Michigan, Michigan State, and Minnesota:
No surprises really in the hatred section. Michigan fans detest Ohio State. Sparty lovers hate their in-state brothers, and Minnesotans really don't take kindly to gratuitous public sex in their stadium restrooms. Or, you know, getting beaten a lot. Behind that mostly comes dislike of nearby geographic foes or schools that have had their number in recent seasons.
Interestingly, both Michigan and Minnesota seem to concentrate their feelings... with several schools in the conference rating general apathy on the part of their fanbases, and only a few generating actual hatred or love. The Spartans, by contrast, spread it around a little more, and are only neutral about the new entrant to the conference, Nebraska.
Despite being right next to each other, and Wisconsin completely whipping them this past season, the Wolverines really like the Badgers, and they feel okay about Iowa. The Spartans like Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, and Purdue, while Gopher fans will seemingly cheer for both the Illini and Penn State on any given Saturday afternoon. I wonder whether the attitudes of Blue fans towards the Hawkeyes and Spartan fans towards the Wildcats will change after the coming season, now that those schools are all in the Legends Division togther...
Nebraska, Northwestern, and Ohio State:
Though they are new to the conference, Husker fans are quick to judge. They've already determined that they don't like Michigan, and that they're not too thrilled with Ohio State, Wisconsin, or Penn State. I'm not sure where the Michigan hate comes from, but the other three are all schools that have been towards the upper tier of the conference in recent years, so it could be anxiety over future matchups generating that dislike. Much as with other schools above, I expect the feelings of Husker fans towards Minnesota and Northwestern to change as they encounter those schools regularly.
It's not a surprise that Northwestern fans hate Iowa, Illinois, or Minnesota. Those are all rivals, whether because of geography or hard fought games. What is surprising is the dislike of Michigan. Can't explain that one... maybe annoyance at historical dominance? Or law school rankings envy? Yeah, that's totally it. Meanwhile, Wildcats spread their lovin' around, rating OSU, Wisky, Nebraska, MSU, and Penn State positively.
Oh Ohio State... saying that Buckeye fans hate Michigan is almost an understatement based on the graph. They don't just hate Michigan. They loathe Michigan. They wish the state never existed. It's so bad that I'm sure the only way Cavaliers fans could hate LeBron James more than they already do is if he had joined the Pistons instead of the Heat.
But Buckeye fans don't stop there. They also don't particularly like Wisconsin or Penn State... probably because both of those schools have beaten them or played them to the wire in recent seasons. They also dislike Indiana and Illinois, but compared to their hate for other conference members, it barely rates on the graph. Surprisingly, they really like Nebraska, Northwestern, and Michigan State. I wouldn't be surprised if they change their mind about the Huskers in the future...
Penn State, Purdue, and Wisconsin:
Nittany Lions fans seem to have had it with all the talk of Michigan and Ohio State, declaring a pox on both of their houses with equal hatred. They don't particularly like Huskers, Boilermakers, or Hoosiers either. They couldn't really care less about Illinois or Minnesota, but generally like MSU, Northwestern, and Wisconsin. Oh, and they are totally broskis with Iowa, dude. Chest bumps and Smirnoff Ices all around!
Purdue reciprocates Indiana's hatred for them. These two are like siblings who won't even pass each other the mashed potatoes because they hate each other so much. Boilermakers also don't particularly like Iowa, OSU, or the Badgers... but they really love Michigan State. Given the basketball rivalry between those two, I thought that one was rather strange. Is there something else at work here? Help me out Purdue fans...
Like many fans in the conference, Wisconsinites wear their rivalries on their sleeves. They hate Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, and Michigan. They dislike MSU, Ohio State, and Purdue. The Hoosiers and the Huskers don't really rate for them, but they'll totally share a beer and some sausage with a Nittany Lion or a Wildcat. Oh who am I kidding, we'll drink with fans from all of these schools. It's what we do, after all.
So there you have it, the B1G Social Network:
That's how the OTE community currently looks. Is it an accurate representation of how fans from your school feel about the rest of the conference? What do you think?
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Surprised Minnesota rates PSU highly.
In my opinion, PSU always seems to get the questionable ref calls in their favor against Minnesota, particularly in the 2006 overtime game. The Lions should have lost that game.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
As an Iowa fan
It is exactly what I expected us to say about everyone else in the conference. I think that we need to just get a room with PSU though.. embarrassing to show so much love in public.
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jun 6, 2011 12:44 PM CDT reply actions
you just got banned at ATO for that
subject line and profanity. FOR SHAAAAMMMEEEE
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
meh
That place sucks anyway. There is absolutely no humor there, it might as well be a politics board
by Fake Pelini on Jun 6, 2011 1:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
meh
That place sucks anyway. There is absolutely no humor there, it might as well be a politics board
by Fake Pelini on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
exactly
suck it, Tyler T
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Getting the ban hammer from BSD, which I wear like a badge of honor
is one thing SBB, but getting banned from the Buckeye site? EPIC!
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it wasn't really
But I guess when you’re in Moscow, you don’t openly mock Putin, right?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah they’re serious. If what you say is funny, you aren’t welcome here. “We don’t like michigan and funny people.”
by Fake Pelini on Jun 6, 2011 9:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
false
there are no girls on the internet.
besides, look at your picture. that looks like a dude to me.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 7, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
also, doesn't he play for the bills?
that means even if was doing awesome no one would notice.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 7, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
not my thing...
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 9, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
btw the michigan hatred comes from
Them claiming a title that is obviously ours. I mean after completely destroying a peyton manning led tennessee team and michigan struggling to win, how is it not obvious?
by Fake Pelini on Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I'm on board with this
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree completely!
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
Everyone should hate Michigan.
That’s just how it is done.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 8, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm a little surprised at Wisconsin's feelings toward Iowa
I guess our fans are just too similar?
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They like your mustached women
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
by Marshmoose on Jun 6, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's cattle.
Oh, wait, that makes sense.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 7, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty simple answer to this . . .
Iowa had a 20-year win streak against Wisconsin through the mid 70s to mid 90s. Due to proximity, upwards of 15,000 to 20,000 Iowa fans sometimes came up to Camp Randall back when Bucky was terrible. Having a descending horde of Iowa fans drunkenly cheer their team on to victory year-after-year in your stadium wears on a fanbase, just ask Minnesota.
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but you already knew that.
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Im gonna go ahead
and second this
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
Me too
I want to change my ballot, please (based on OTE postings of the last three months).
Still have love for sparty though. The enemy of my enemy, right? Plus, a man-crush on Dantonio.
Sounds about right for Northwestern
The dislike of Illinois and Iowa fits. The score against Michigan seems strange, but not compared to how other schools feel about Michigan. Northwestern is only the 4th most hating of Michigan, while first and second most hating towards Illinois and Iowa respectively.
I am going to assume that all the love for Northwestern is respect for upstandingness of the program and not thankfulness for wins.
No...
Thank you for making the conferences academics look great. Now if you could just talk to Minnesota…
I'm not sure how scientific this is but it makes for a very entertaining read. Kudos!
I’m an Iowa fan but I enjoy watching most B10 teams. Even if it is Indiana playing SW Kentucky Tech on a Wednesday I’ll be watching. I like Penn St and Wisconsin more than most of the others though because I respect their programs and style of play. I think I’ll probably end up liking Nebraska as well and have gained a grudging respect for jNW though I can’t stand most of their fans (there is a joke there somewhere).
… though I can’t stand most of their fan s. There, fixed.
by txhawkeye on Jun 6, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
The Iowa one is dead on
Is anyone surprised that Iowa hates everybody except PSU, the team they’ve dominated in recent years? Fits so perfectly with the collective inferiority complex that their fanbase suffers from.
You do realize that Iowa has 3 teams that have positive results, right?
And one of those is, arguably, Iowa’s best rivalry (Wisconsin).
by The Mexican't on Jun 6, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
Also, I know Iowa fans that originate from Minnesota, Illinois and Indiana. That explains quite a bit of the hatred for those schools, as most of the primary hate was headed in the direction of OSU, Michigan and Minny. Just ask McCann’t about Illinois and Northwestern; Ross about Minnesota; I could keep on going but you get the idea. I have no hatred for Minnesota beyond them being a rival for Floyd, or hatred for Illinois beyond wanting to not lose to Ron Zook /shudders
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 6, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
[profanity redacted] Minnesota.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yes, ask me about Illinois and Northwestern, but you'll have to wait for a response.
While you’re doing that I’ll be shooting a few meathead Illini frat boys inside of Ryan Field (because who would actually be there to see me do it?).
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 7, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah because Minny has just dominated lately
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jun 6, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
So cute when jNWho
latches on to Iowa so their football program has an identity. So cute!
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Jun 6, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
And it's just as adorable
when you display that arrogance in thinking that we define everything based on Iowa.
Yawn.
The above post demonstrates jNWho's infatuation with Iowa
It’s a pretty regular occurance on OTE for your fanbase to live vicariously through Hawkeye football then vehemently deny that you do.
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions
That's be funnier
… if you guys didn’t repeatedly power-shit the bed against them, year in and year out.
by Albino Tornado on Jun 7, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
No attempt at humor here.
isnt UN-L one failed two point conversion away from a two game losing streak to Iowa State? Now that’s funny.
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean, whatever you want to think.
As AT said above, stop shitting the bed, and we’ll stop celebrating it. It’d be the same way if we beat OSU or another highly-ranked B1G team.
You know, like one that was 9-0 and cruising for a BCS berth.
I have this sudden craving for a Wendy’s baked potato…
Yea. I get it. Explosive runny diarrhea shitting the bed. On repeat. Capped off with choking on our vomit.
Was almost set to compare IOWA’s rivalry with jNWho to the HAWKS’ with PSU because both teams joined B1G football back in the early to mid 1990s. But Pat Fitgerald doesn’t deserve it. Seriously Pat, win a big game other than v. Ferentz. Guess what I’m saying is even Iowa State goophed themselves a bowl victory lately. That’s why Iowa doesn’t give respect, jNWho doesn’t get it from anyone else.
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wisconsin's bowl game play-calling is reigning meltdown champion.
Since you are keeping track of embarrassing meltdowns, you knew that though.
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I was talking about ya know, actual football games
True, Hawk Fans are the gold standard
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 8, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Actual football games?
You mean, those events where Iowa is genetically incapable of beating a little pissant school like Northwestern?
Yeah, you won this argument. . . .
Indeed. Actual football games like the ones I mentioned above vs jNWho. Just right above, up a little, like a cheese curd higher.
No argument here. Just a timeline. Sconnie shat the bunk more recently than Iowa, speaking chronologically. BB should have led a 4 quarter steamroll with two all-American lineman flattening the way for a B1G Rose victory. Instead got the thorns. I get being owned by jNWho is embarrassing, holy shit do I crystal clear get it, but that is not as embarrassing for the B1G as TCU Rose Bowl champs.
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 9, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
A win is a win is a win
Especially this century
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 8, 2011 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Somebody had to lose that bowl game
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
Net Totals
UI (-10)
IU (-10)
IOWA (-17)
MICH (-74!!)
MINN (-17)
NEB (-4)
OSU (-57!!)
PUR (-9)
UW (-4)
And the only schools with a net positive…
NU (9)
PSU (15)
MSU (+22!!)
While I know that I have many reasons for loving the Spartans, I’m interested in what generates this love from other schools? While I know we’ve had a middle of the conference football team for the last 20 years or so, the success of our basketball team over the last decade seems like it would have generated some enemies along the way. I guess I’ll just chalk it up to the fact that the university runs a clean program with quality coaches and fans. What’s to hate? Go Green!
Clean as a whistle
/puts together an enginerd-bashing posse
by Erik T on Jun 6, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Clean as
Glenn Winston’s rap sheet.
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I didn't really hate MSU until D'Antonio started playing ex-cons
But before that, it was kind of like hating your little brother. Sure, every now and then he might give you a black eye, but all and all he’s harmless. Its actually kind of cute the way he tries.
"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler
I was in Happy Valley
for the final game of last regular season. It was super cute.
Well you did enjoy your first win at Beaver Stadium
I’ll give you that. Actually I was pulling for Sparty last year to win the B1G. As much as I hate D’Antonio, I hate Bellima and OSU much, much more.
"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler
With OSU wins vacated...
We did. We beat the fadgers head to head and the only reason it was a tie was that we never have Tressel Motors on the schedule.
All in all though, i did comment to the girl I was dating at the time (PSU alum) that your fans were very classy when we won. There was minor trash talking in the late bar hours, but for the most part everyone was pretty friendly. No PSU hate from me.
Yeah, other than D'Antonio
I don’t really mind MSU at all. Actually, its similar to how I feel about Wisconsin. As a general rule, I don’t find a ton of fault in either fanbase.
"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler
D'Antonia is a tool
that’s my feelings after that cold game with the timeouts. jerk. other than that, MSU is cool.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Big Ten...or just lose the sweater vest.
no you didn't
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope. Still a tie. Sorry.
2005/2009 we beat tO$U in head to heads but they still claim their shares in the BigTen title.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Big Ten...or just lose the sweater vest.
because that Bama loss counts twice if not three times
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess you had to win sometime. Tell Hoyer we said "hi"

by letsgopsu on Jun 6, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tell him yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q21cpWV8R6o
Hope you don’t choke on your words.
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Awesome article
Love seeing articles like these. Thanks!
As for Nebraska’s place in this chart, I fully expect Iowa fans to grow a strong hatred of the Huskers after they fail to beat them year after year (hehe). Regardless I think in the future (5+ years) the chart would look something like this:
Nebraska and Iowa hate each other (Iowa’s hate > Nebraska’s)
Nebraska and Ohio State like each other a lot (Ohio State wins most games and is :-) and Nebraska wants to be like Ohio State)
Nebraska hates Wisconsin, Wisconsin neutral on Nebraska
Nebraska likes Penn State, Penn State doesn’t like Nebraska
Everyone else essentially neutral… depending on events like those occurring between Colorado and Nebraska in the past, or the Gilbert brothers/Missouri Miracle play.
ill bite
Ill be the total homer and predict utter dominance over the big ten. Neb wants to be like OSU? WTF? Neb > OSU.
If you live near omaha and have friends who are hawkeye fans(those poor bastards) u know they already hate us because the local media doesn’t show anything iowa related because nobody cares.
As far as what the future holds, I hope we develop somewhat of a rivalry with penn st as the other “newbie”, but mostly with ohio state because we’ll likely see each other in the conf championship game a lot. Not saying we’ll ever replace michigan because that’s just impossible, but I’d like to be their 2nd most hated some day
by Fake Pelini on Jun 6, 2011 4:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, Nebraska is like OSU
except for those pesky conference titles recently
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 6, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
sure Nebraska might be like OSU, that’s not what I’m arguing.
What I was referring to is the
Nebraska wants to be like Ohio State
which is total crap because we don’t want to be like anybody. I don’t think any self-respecting fan of any major program would admit to wanting to be like anybody else
No one wants to be someone else, but it's fair to say people want others successes.
Hell, I don’t want to be Florida, but you bet your ass I want their Natl. Titles of recent memory. I’m sure there are hundreds of schools that want to be like OSU, Fla., Tex, etc. in success on the field.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
Nebraska doesn’t want anything anybody else has. We’re happy with what we’ve got, all we want is for Texas to die a horrible, slow, ass-cancerous death.
by Fake Pelini on Jun 6, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm pretty sure we'll all gladly join you in wishing that
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 6, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll support that.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
To clarify - everyone wants the success of others...
Yeah I didn’t mean that Nebraska wants to “be” Ohio State as much as I meant Nebraska wants to win conference championships “like” Ohio State.
Don’t think for one moment that Nebraska doesn’t want what other schools have. We were salivating for a defense like LSU’s before we hired Pelini (really we wanted anyone’s defense but ours). I don’t know how much I heard about how we wanted to be “up there” with Oklahoma and Texas during the 2004-2007 seasons.
And, if we were “up there” we would have wanted the success of USC (hehe) or Florida as Texas/Oklahoma could only put together one championship in the past decade combined.
And I really want to believe we will play for the conference championship every year, but a reasonable goal would be to play for it 50% of the time and win it once every four years or so (that is still an ambitious goal). I think those goals would be a little low for Ohio State at this point as they are simply at a higher level than us even after all the dust settles around them.
by GoBigRed - Josh on Jun 7, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know man. OSU is good and all but we’re getting back up to where we usually are since the 60s. I mean, we hardly ever finished outside the top 15 until pretty much Callaghan happened.
Once Nebraska finishes top ten at least 2 yrs in a row(which I think is sooner than later) I think we’ll be in the same position in which the winner of the NU vs either OSU or PSU game is going to the national title game. Even better now there will be no such thing as sooner magic.
by Fake Pelini on Jun 7, 2011 8:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm glad you have this all figured out for us
If we thought OSU carried the smug purse then these guys brought their whole make up kit.
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by Nature Boy on Jun 8, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm sorry, we call it history.
by Fake Pelini on Jun 8, 2011 1:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So Nebraska is back to post 60's type performance?
By that do you mean winning conference and national titles or some bizarro sixties where winning the Big 12 North and losing in the Holiday Bowl is considered dominance. I dont disagree that you were awesome throughout history. But annointing Pelini the next Osbourne is ludicrous.
2010 10-4 #20 Lost to Washington in Holdiay
2009 10-4 #14 Beat Arizona in Holiday
2008 9-4 NR Beat Clemson in Gator
Thats the Pelini era. Add to that losing to ISU, losing to a crap Texas team and I am supposed to believe they are going to dominate the B1G. Easy to get to 10 wins in the Big 12 North. Get ready for a new world.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
A) Nebraska plays only 5 big 12 north games, 3 big 12 south games.
B) Mizzou is also in the big 12 north, they’re not exactly a cupcake.
3) Like it or not, the big 12 is of the same caliber as the big ten. Nebraska playing the big 12 North is no different to Wisconsin playing Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, and Northwestern.
We’ll be ready for a similar world.
by Fake Pelini on Jun 8, 2011 4:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
UGH!! I'm already soooo tired of hearing about UNL's history.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 8, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha yeah because you can't relate.
Lol, no serious though I only mentioned it one time!
by Fake Pelini on Jun 8, 2011 7:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That comment wasn't directed solely directed at you.
It was a general comment about the argument that many Husker fans I have interacted with, while living in a Big12 city, fall back on.
Every school has a history and each is different. My Alma mater’s history means no less to me than your school’s does to you.
so this isn't a "since joining the big ten" problem.
by Fake Pelini on Jun 9, 2011 8:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, yes and no.
Before I only had to hear it from people I encountered in my daily life, now I get it from people in my internet life too.
It’s nice that you all were the cock of the walk in the Big 8 + 4 You Hate but that is irrelevant now. You have a whole new history with your new conference to develop. BTW, I’m not saying your history isn’t impressive and rich, or that Iowa’s is better because we have been in the Big10 for 100+ years.
Pretty accurate for me
I like to root for Northwestern (intellectual underdogs), Wisconsin (relatives), and Iowa. It’s infuriating how PSU is unable to beat Iowa, but their fans have a good sense of humor. I used to despise Michigan (2 seconds!), but that dislike has shifted to OSU in recent years.
I like Iowa
They have a mostly reasonable fan base and run a program similar to PSU’s. I can only explain the love for Wiscy as leftover from a bye-gone era. Ever since that sonofabitch Belima took over I’ve hated Wisconsin with a passion. Actually, most of it boils down to 30 seconds of off-sides kickoffs and Craig James going on a tirade about JoePa being a crochety old man about it
"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler
"but their fans have a good sense of humor."
Until their annual bedwetting against Northwestern, you mean.
That humor is my favorite.
Angry photoshops, the occasional excuse, and general “rahhh they have no fans at their stadium”.
It’s like when we lose to anyone else and I reassure myself that our football team is smarter than their football team.
Honest question
If we win this year, what % of your fanbase disappears from the internets. I remember Iowa State had a very vocal fanbase for a few years until we “figured them out.” When your time comes I wonder how long your fans will last.
LMAO...
Are you seriously saying the only reason NW fans exist on the intertubes is to taunt Iowa fans? That there is nothing else for them to talk about? Like their own team?
Really?
You got it.
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Honest Answer
I will readily admit that the annual lamenting of the Hawkeyes has driven more internet comments from me than I would have ever posted otherwise. BHGP is funny. Hayden Fry’s Mustache Ride is hilarious. All the Krissy Cox and William Danforth III commentary just brings a smile to my face. While I love the ’Cats, the B1G, and college football in general, the creativity and humor of Iowa fans on the net and their obsession with NU is incredibly entertaining and wanting to see what they say next is a big driver of visiting this site and others. And yes, those comments are best after they have lost once again to the ’Cats.
That being said, at some point Iowa fans are going to realize that the ‘Cats are not going to sink back into the abyss (ala Iowa State), and that the matchups between the two schools are probably going to be competitive for years to come. If your hope is that we’re going to sulk and completely disappear after an inevitable loss, I think you’re in for a rude surprise. If you really wanted us to stop commenting, all it would take is to tip your cap to the program after a win and show a little respect… but what would be the fun in that?
by GTom on Jun 7, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
To respond to GoAUpher
No, that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying there’s a percentage of every fanbase on the internet that exists primarily because of their dislike for another team/success against them. For example, Iowa State beats Iowa, ISU fans who’ve never been around come out of the woodwork. Michigan FINALLY beats tOSU, Michigan fans who we’ve never seen before come out of the woodwork. I’m simply curious to see what percentage of Northwestern’s fanbase exists because of their success against Iowa and what percentage goes AWOL if Iowa wins.
That makes a lot more sense.
Got a different gist from the other post. Thanks for responding. =)
What I’d watch is how large that presence is on BHGP/OTE…in other words, on internet sites where talking smack about Iowa has a place. I sincerely doubt the strong communities at Lake the Posts/Sippin’ Purple have their following improved by the “Hate Iowa” internet bangwagoners.
Exactly.
To sum up a response to the three or so different points here:
1. OH HA WE HAVEN’T WON BOWL! (we’ll get there)
2. Unless you can find clear-cut examples of people who have suddenly jumped out of the woodwork, then disappeared and not been contributors on things B1G-related and prove that NU’s got a higher % of them than, say, any other school in the B1G, I don’t think this is quite the argument you want it to be.
3. I assume BentNotBroken was being sarcastic when saying NU fans exist to taunt Iowa fans. If not, well… I’m thinking of a word that rhymes with shmarrogance…
NU fans exist to pat each other on the back and tell each other how great they are.
While others vomit.
Black and Gold!
by Spider_Monkey on Jun 7, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
3 pointed response
1. Please win one soon. You guys patented the modern-era-Bowl-shit-of-bed. Please correct, soon.
2. People jump out of the woodwork? OR multiple SBNations logins from Pat Fitzgerald’s IP address.
3. Go Mavs! BEAT the HEAT!
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
God I hope we win one.
Believe me, it’s getting old. Outback Bowl especially. Fuckity fucking FG from 43 wide goddamn right. FUCK.
We'll just do the "who cares about last year game, we're still better than you" thing
What is that called? Iowaing?
by nuftw on Jun 7, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
True Iowaing also includes a bowl win.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 7, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As well as the occasional baffling loss
to Iowa State Seneca Wallace?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 7, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
TCU? nope, TCU
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Losing to ISU in a year you were 8-0 in the Big Ten
is INFINITELY more embarrassing than losing by 2 points to an undefeated team.
Hey, at least you guys had C.J. Jones’s KR TD in the Orange Bowl…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 7, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Any loss to ISU sucks. That. One. In. Particular.
Also wouldn’t expect you to understand what an instate rival is all about.
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Possibly, but Wisconsin's loss in the Rose really pissed me off.
I like Wisconsin’s style of playing and seeing you guys move away from what was working was baffling and frustrating.
I bet if Wisky had stuck to the power run mentality the entire game (with a small number of play action passes) they would have won with ease.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 8, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
yup this
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jun 8, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Or called the truth
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 8, 2011 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Lies!
Lalalala I can’t hear you…
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by Hilary Lee on Jun 8, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So you remember Hayden Fry's ownination of Wizzconsin?
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 9, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Who hates Iowa?
Sorry, it was on a tee, just sitting there. Had to be done…
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Only the envious ones
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Purdue.....
needs more Ohio State hate. I’d say they are easily #2 behind IU (taking out Notre Dame).
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50-0 beat-downs and 1 victory a century
will cause that
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by BuckeyeSki on Jun 6, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
you better check yo'self
before i REC this post
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
My hatred is:
Notre Dame #1 (I live in South Bend… it is freaking obnoxious!)
IU #2
and OSU #3…
I think the reason for liking Michigan State is that I have a respect for them in B-ball… and, in football, I like anyone who can beat ND more often than not!!! I cheer for ANY team playing the domers, but ESPECIALLY B10 schools!
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 6, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd agree with respecting them in hoops.
Honestly, I think most Purdue fans would like to see a consistent end-of-year contest (in terms of B1G standings) between us and MSU rather than anyone else, especially with Izzo being as respectable as he is. Plus, who can’t like a coach who is on campus serving students pizza during finals week?
Which team hates Purdue more than any other? Iowa
No wonder it’s their protected rival.
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I think this data is tainted...
Was this taken before or after Delaney assigned Iowa as OMHR? I would say that if this was taken before that point, we would not have shown up on their chart!
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 6, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
This has to be rigged
Because clearly Iowa fans hate Purdue more than anyone else.
though our mutual man crush with penn state is absolutely true. BFF!
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jun 6, 2011 3:13 PM CDT reply actions
I thought that was just manufactured by Reading Rambler.
BLAME IOWA!!
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
it was put together by tressel
by Fake Pelini on Jun 6, 2011 4:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
RAFFLEGATE 2.0
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
TP drove away with it
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by BentNotBroken on Jun 7, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
It might have something to do with
Ferentz using a very similar coaching philosophy to Paterno’s and not being, you know, a huge dick (cough Bielema and Tressel cough). Sometimes it’s like Penn State is looking in a mirror (after deciding to dress up like the Steelers). Plus, I defy anyone to hate the team that beats them 6-4. We were meant to be together.
by OctaShields on Jun 6, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec for this line
Plus, I defy anyone to hate the team that beats them 6-4. We were meant to be together.
That is poetry to an Iowa fan… /tears up
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by ClaybornSmash on Jun 6, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That was the worst football experience of my life
Not only was it like watching paint dry, but watching Robby Gould miss two FG’s from inside 35 yards was soul crushing. But watching the Iowa punter take a deliberate safety really told the tale of the 2004 Nittany Lions.
"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler
That game was the platypus of college football
You’re looking at it going “God has a sick sense of humor”.
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Hey, where's Perry?
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by rahpsu92 on Jun 7, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Phineas and Ferb'd
Discovered by the Germans, in 1904, they named it San Dee-AH-go. Which of course, in German, means "a whale's vagina."
October 23, 2004
It was unseasonably warm. And a noon kickoff. And ridiculously sunny. I will never shake that game from my memory. And not because it was a let down like 2005 Michigan or 2008 Iowa, no, that game reserves a special place in my memory for just how much I offensive ineptitude I can actually tolerate.
"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler
Here is a summary....
I’ll do my best to avoid the ban hammer because I can’t properly interlink it where I’m at.
This is from Adam Jacobi at BHGP when he was recalling Iowa’snest wins under KF. He sums up the game perfectly… You owe it to yourself to read it….
http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2010/10/5/1724732/ranking-the-iowa-penn-state-wins-no-2-2004
All the best, everyone
random thought
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by Fake Pelini on Jun 6, 2011 4:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Auburn is just pissed!
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
Not Urbz please.
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PSU is dead on
The Ohio State hatred is obvious, but the Michigan rivalry is surprisingly underreported, especially given the number of “Ann Arbor is a Whore” shirts you can see around State College.
PSU hates OSU
yet you copy our tshirts
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 6, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
sometimes the truth is just truth
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Big Ten...or just lose the sweater vest.
by amandakt on Jun 6, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And it's a REALLY funny shirt.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
by Paige2PSU on Jun 7, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I first saw that shirt in the early 80s in Madison . . .
Think credit goes to the always creative Wisconsin student section for that one.
Michigan fans
MUST HATE MINNESOTA. DEATH TO OUR 2nd GREATEST RIVAL.
by formerlyanonymous on Jun 6, 2011 5:48 PM CDT reply actions
Geez
I’m almost embarrassed by the Iowa bromance. I blame Rambler. He’s always passing the love notes between BSD and BHGP.
It all makes sense to me from a PSU perspective. Obviously we’re going to really hate the two most arrogant programs in the conference, and like the friendliest (yet still passionate) fanbase despite the fact their team keeps drinking our milkshake.
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This pretty much sums up us Badgers.
Oh who am I kidding, we’ll drink with fans from all of these schools. It’s what we do, after all.
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I'm really not sure why PSU dislikes Indiana
Seriously? Do we hate because they suck so much? It’s a little unfair. Other than that, I agree completely.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Big Ten...or just lose the sweater vest.
Everyone should hate IU!
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 6, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Their Basketball Team
is or at least was very hateable. No foul-pulled jerseys/Sam Lickliter personally stealing a pivotal/greatest PSU BB win.
'Trivializing the "GREATEST RIVALRY OF ALL TIME" for a bunch of ghetto tats must have made them pee in their man-diapers.' Mr. Rosewater
I think there's probably a stronger MSU to Purdue connection than shown here
Mutual hatred of Notre Dame, and to a lesser extent Michigan. Mutual respect for the most part in basketball (of course we’ll be less kind when we’re actually playing, but who isn’t?) and no real geographical or intrinsic institutional reason for hating each other.
And now we also share Indiana as important rivals apparently.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
Two things will make me happy and keep me saying Go Green! Go White! during football...
1.) Keep beating ND (especially in heart breaking fashion like last year!) and
2.) Keep beating IU (Now that they are your protected rival!)
That and the fact that I have a couple of good friends that went to State… p.s. the ND State game from last year was on Saturday morning… I told a good friend of mine, who is a domer, to turn to the B10 Network right before the fake… Needless to say, he was PISSED!!!!
Boiler Up! Hammer Down!
by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 6, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
But everyone keeps beating IU
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
by Jon Ross on Jun 6, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
We didnt. F
#%$!#%!#%!#%!#%!#%!%#!#%!#%!#!!!!!!
OK. It will be ok. Breathe. The “rivalry” record is like 70-37 in our favor it will be ok.
GDI
Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!
"Woooosaahhhh"

"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
I'd be interested to see how much of this changes a few years down the road.
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On, Wisconsin!
I'm guessing
that this is going to become a yearly series…
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MICHIGAN SUCKS!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 7, 2011 4:46 AM CDT reply actions 11 recs
Never not rec'd
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
What time is it?
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
We Purdue fans-
1) Hate IU. Let’s just be sure we are clear about that. (Oh, and ND too, but they aren’t on the list)
2) Other than that, there’s not a lot of hate from us honestly. I personally don’t care for Illinois much, but other than that I respect our likely hated members like Iowa, OSU and Michigan.
3) Like MSU. Why? Well we tend to relate to MSU a lot. Blue collar type school, middle of the road, decent engineering program, good BB. EL is a lot like WL in ways. I don’t know, we just relate to MSU on many levels, so no wonder we “like” them so much. Its a good rivalry we have, the games in FB and BB are always highly contested and fun to watch.
4) Are supposed to hate Iowa now. It will be learned trait, but we’re working on it.
5) dislike (not hate) OSU and MIchigan, but we respect their success and look forward to the challenge of competing with them year in and out.
6) IU sucks.
Dosvidaniya, bitches! BTFU!
Agreed. Too bad ND isn't in B1G
If Notre Dame was in the B1G, then their hate level would be off of the charts. I agree with your take on MSU, I tend to feel that Wisconsin is the same way. I think that if you did this survey with a much larger group of people, I think the hate level for OSU would be huge.
I think that this hate/love deal is really based on how good your football program is and how mean your fans are. Boiler Up!
You think you have a hatred for ND right now...
try living in South Bend…
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 7, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
why would anyone want to live there?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 7, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Why does Nebraska hate Michigan?
1997 ring a bell? People calling Nebraska’s 1997 coaches’ poll championship a “parting gift”? Yeah, we remember stuff like that.
Penn State, well, that goes back to the ‘82 game, and yes we do hold grudges that long, and no, we don’t care that they think they got jobbed back in ’94.
As for Minnesota and Norhwestern – the aggregate score of the last 4 Minnesota-Nebraska games is 226-20. Yes, that’s a four game total. The only time we’ve played jNWU in the last 40+ years was at the Alamo Bowl – where we beat them by seven touchdowns. What kinds of cads would hate on teams that received Iowa-State-and-Kansas grade beatdowns?
I’m shocked Iowa didn’t get more hate; perhaps living in Omaha I’ve simply been more exposed to their kind.
We don't THINK we got jobbed in '94.
We DID get jobbed in ‘94 – we should have gotten a share of that title. And salt was rubbed in the wound in ’97 when Nebraska and Michigan split it. For a number of years after that, I absolutely hated Nebraska. Gradually though, my hate shifted to the asshat AP voters from Big10 country that almost unanimously voted for Nebraska. Not to say that it won’t flare up again when we start playing them every year, but in general, I’ve made my peace with Nebraska (for what it’s worth).
Discovered by the Germans, in 1904, they named it San Dee-AH-go. Which of course, in German, means "a whale's vagina."
by icavalera on Jun 7, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I only rec'd the first part,
just for the record. My hate is still alive and well.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
Thanks for the half-rec.
I’m not sure why my hate for them has diminished, but nevertheless it has. Like I said though, it will probably flare up again since we’re going to be playing them every year. And I’ll only have to hear from one Andy Pskers-type for it to come back full-force.
Discovered by the Germans, in 1904, they named it San Dee-AH-go. Which of course, in German, means "a whale's vagina."
No worries.
We’ll make you hate us again. It’ll be sad to be known as the team who forced JoePa to retire…
…Oh shit did I just drop the atom bomb?
by Fake Pelini on Jun 7, 2011 8:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Atom bomb? Nope.
Besides, Joe isn’t retiring. More likely, he’s going out of that stadium in a box someday.
Discovered by the Germans, in 1904, they named it San Dee-AH-go. Which of course, in German, means "a whale's vagina."
My brother and I are going to the NU - PSU game this year.
Quite honestly, I couldn’t care less for the game itself as I do about actually watching JoePa coach a game in real life. I mean, this is akin to watching Jesus do his thing back 2000 years ago.
Which Joe got to see in person as a young boy.
Discovered by the Germans, in 1904, they named it San Dee-AH-go. Which of course, in German, means "a whale's vagina."
by icavalera on Jun 7, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I've been within 20 feet of him a number of times.
And every time, I get as giddy as a school girl, lol.
Discovered by the Germans, in 1904, they named it San Dee-AH-go. Which of course, in German, means "a whale's vagina."
by icavalera on Jun 7, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This would probably be the only game I wouldn't mind losing.
Only this one time though, and only if we’re outside the top 10 at the time(no nat’l title implications).
by Fake Pelini on Jun 8, 2011 8:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wisconsin Tried.
Wisconsin broke his hip…
Wisconsin Failed.
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
Summed it up nicely there
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
The only way I can explain MSU's and Purdue's love for one another...
Is mutual respect in basketball?
Also, it could have something to do with going through similar situations of coaches leaving the program either for the NBA or for another school.
I know I'm late to the thread
But as a Purdue fan, just wanted to throw out my theory on the love for MSU. I think Purdue fans tend to like Sparty out of respect for Izzo and the basketball program. I think there are some similarities in the philosophies of the Purdue program and Izzo’s program. I doubt many Purdue fans have much feeling either way about MSU football.




































