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Lou Holtz Is Still On Air, But How? And Why?

We all make bad decisions in life. Like that time you met a cutie at the county fair and when you ended up at her place, she put a Justin Bieber song on the radio not because that was an ironic thing to do but because she was 15 years old and actually enjoys his music AND OH MY GOD THATS A FELONY RUN AWAY DUDE RUN AWAY.

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ESPN also makes bad decisions. Lots of them. And the worst may be the yearly signing of Lou Holtz as a co-anchor of College Football Scoreboard and other assorted CFB shows. Holtz is the worst, and if he's not the worst, it's only because Mark May and Craig James are such assholes that it's hard to concentrate on anything they say. Holtz ruins every damn college football highlight show in with his inability to discuss actual game play and his unintelligible speech. You love Saturdays, you go to the games, you stumble home, you turn on highlights, you get pumped...and then you have to mute the fucking TV so you don't have to hear Holtz and May babble on about everything except the college football games played that day.

Where do I stand? I think it's the WWL's Achillies Heel, an obsession with sporting celebrities over the actual sporting analysis. Will you honestly go to any ESPN show involving Holtz to get your fill of CFB highlights? Probably not.

So it begs the question: If ESPN is truly intent on world domination, why would they open themselves to ridicule by leaving Holtz on TV? Isn't leaving dinosaurs like Holtz and Chris Berman in primetime slots the reason companies like SBN could get a foothold in the market (i.e. ESPN only cared about personalities, and not in-depth coverage of the games being played, so individual blogs and localized coverage gained a huge following)? How can such a monster organization leave someone on air who is supposed to be humorous, or comedic relief...but isn't funny? What about the motivational stuff, the kind of speeches that every young football player has cringed through when the uncool coach gets rolling in the locker room? Where does Holtz's ridiculousness make you turn to for CFB coverage?

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Why is Lou Holtz still allowed to be on TV?
He owns naked pictures of ESPN executives.
65 votes
As part of Holtz's "My Wish" segment for people with bad lisps, he gets to be an ESPN analyst for life.
26 votes
ESPN is an archaic, celebrity driven company that doesn't watch its own shows to know if they're any good.
211 votes
He brings energy, personality, and comedic relief to typically boring sports analysis.
66 votes

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Yeah, its getting bad...

…but its tough not to love the guy. Lou is an amazing coach with a hall of fame career, but he probably doesn’t need to be on TV all of the time anymore. The best of Lou was his inspirational videos from the 90’s…corny, but good.

I appreciate that you pointed out that Mark May is a complete dick. Frankly, that whole show is un-watchable.

I will say this: Lou isn’t the worst old man covering college football on TV. Corso is.

by IrishBrewerBadger on Jul 19, 2011 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

It is not tough to not love the guy

He is 20 years behind the times and spouts inane gibberish. His talking points are the most blase, flavor-of-the-week type and he always has to plug his tenure at ND, which no current college player can remember.

by Mattdsm on Jul 19, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Filling the extra hour of GameDay

with Lou Holtz reading Shakespeare…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 19, 2011 11:05 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

OR...

Sally sells seashells by the seashore.
The shells Sally sells are surely from the sea

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jul 20, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's supposed to be taken seriously

I think he’s supposed to be funny and there to lighten up the mood. The only problem is that he isn’t funny…although he does lighten up the mood. He’s similar to Corso in that aspect. And while I don’t think he’s funny I don’t see him as replaceable. I mean, senile hall of fame coaches just don’t grow on trees.

I like Lou and I’ll miss him when he’s no longer on the show because he serves his purpose. The minute you start taking him serious is the minute you’ll start hating him.

Although I will say the Dr. Lou thing just HAS to go.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 19, 2011 11:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Curious though -

Would you rather have 3-4 mins of Lou being Lou, or someone serious giving somewhat reasonable insight to the week’s games?

by Mattdsm on Jul 19, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is anyone on ESPN reasonable?

Kirk? Mark May? Robert Smith? Desmond? I’d say Smith is but that’s about it. And Lou is on one show…ESPN is on for 24 hours and has countless hours dedicated to CFB. I can get my reasonableness from elsewhere. Primarily from someone known as a “journalist”.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 19, 2011 11:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I would personally rather listen to Desmond

But that’s just my choice. Yeah – none of them are perfect. Maybe EA can do some more feature spots.

by Mattdsm on Jul 19, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would like Holtz

more if he would bury his pen in maygay’s eye

Just sayin’

by biggy84 on Jul 20, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maygay?

Really?

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude.

That’s really not cool.

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by Hilary Lee on Jul 20, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not cool?

What are you talking about?

by biggy84 on Jul 20, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sinister?

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by Hilary Lee on Jul 20, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meaning

i wasn’t trying to be insensitive to anyone. Getting called out and making it seem sinister wasn’t necessary. It was automatically assumed to be some attack on the alternative lifestyle community. Working around a large gay community and having 2 sisters and an aunt that live an alternative lifestyle, i am keenly aware of prejudices. I wasn’t referring to May’s sexual orientation and resent the presumed intent. I also didn’t really believe that Holtz should stick a pen in his eye either.

by biggy84 on Jul 20, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't trying to be insensitive to anyone.

Just Mark May and/or homosexuals.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jul 20, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's cool

i have a gay friend

/everyone’d

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Were you trying

to offend Josh Beckett when you called him a certain name? How about your comments about Beckham? just curious u-god.

by biggy84 on Jul 20, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

A quick cursory search of "Beckett" in my user name

results in the insult of “aging frat boy”. Is this what you’re referring to?

Gordon Beckham did a dumb thing. He apologized for it.

You did a little dance around it, trying to play the victim for being called out on coming up with an uncreative and lazy insult.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jul 20, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I Wasn't Aware

That freedom of speech, expression, thought was predicated on not being offensive. You are allowed to write here as long as you aren’t offensive? When did that start? Much to many peoples surprise, no one has the right to not be offended.

Only blacks can joke about blacks. Only Jews can joke about Jews. Only middle eastern people can joke about middle easterners. Only Muslims can joke about Muslims. Only Asians can joke about Asians. You can substitute “joke about” with “offend”. Talk about lack of tolerance. And talk about a bunch of crap.

How about anything conservative, or a redneck, or a white heterosexual male. Does your intolerance go as far as defending their right to not be offended? No one’s does. So all you “speech bleachers” who want to sanitize everybodys’ mind, lighten up. Not every remark is slam on one of your sacred cows.

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by PreachinTotheChoir on Jul 20, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love when people cite "Freedom of Speech"

without actually understanding how it works.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jul 20, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's go yell "FIRE" in a movie theatre.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, U-God

I mean, when did OTE (or SB Nation, for that matter) become a federal, state, or local government? (First Amendment = “Congress shall pass no law,” and that gets extended to the states and local governments thanks to 14th amendment…..but has no bearing on a blog, thank you very much.)

The comment was ignorant, offensive, and (perhaps worse) not funny in the slightest. Kudos to Hilary for calling him out on it.

by Chadnudj on Jul 21, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have seen your posts

chad and i could more than bring up your offensive words. My intent was not what you want it to be and i apologized more than once.

by biggy84 on Jul 21, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's stunning

how you can repeat the same line over and over (and over and over) to every commenter on here, yet still say nothing.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 21, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh look! TOS!

In addition, you agree not to use the SBNation Network to:..
(b) transmit any material that is abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, pornographic, obscene, libelous, invasive of another’s privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable…

Now, while the obscene and vulgarity provisions aren’t exactly upheld anywhere on SBNation I’m comfortable saying that the rest of them are. Using these sites are privileges and not rights. Furthermore, you’re subject to the interpretations of the rules by the mods, editors, writers or whatever else you want to call them.

You want freedom of speech? You can walk down to the capital steps and bitch, scream and moan without having to be worried about getting carried away. That’s the right to “freedom of speech.” You don’t have a “right” to do much of anything here. You have the “privilege.”

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh look

Once again, you pimple brains have missed the point like the clues in an Ellery Queen Mystery. Freedom of speech may have been the start of my post, but the point is “speech bleachers” and “the thought police.” I think the editors have a right to block whatever they think they should.

I didn’t think “Maygay” was a particularly clever, smart, witty or adult statement. It was rather childish. And if it offended me I have the right to say so. But I don’t come unglued, and through my powers, threaten to banish the name caller from the sight. That is also very childish. “Play the way I say or go away.” I’m just amazed that all of you are willing to banish someone for such a lame infraction. I say that based on your nifty defense of the speech bleachers.

U-God is so full of him/herself that he perceives that someone misunderstands something because they don’t see it the way he does. Thank you for keeping the world on the straight and narrow with your narrow vision.

And leave it to a buckeye brain to come up with the stupidest statement of all.

And there is something I have learned a long time ago. In this country, there is no such thing as free speech unless you’re speaking on the “right side” of the issue.

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by PreachinTotheChoir on Jul 20, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

An adequate, appropriate and necessary response, so stop complaining

They’re trying to run an honest site, and if they let things like this slide – intentional or not – they run the risk of it manifesting into something more, possibly losing sponsorship, getting the site shut down by SBNation or whatever powers that are behind them. As mikjones showed, them’s the rules, and it’s their job to enforce them.

I thought the original comment was over the line, and I’m guessing that if you made a similar reference to a coworker in an email, you’d be talking to HR before Purdue has a chance to tear another ACL

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by Marshmoose on Jul 20, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not about 1st amendment or Human Resources.

Be mean and witty just avoid so at the expense of gender, orientation or race. Pretty much everything else is Ok.

Not to mention funnier and more creative to read. Gotta know your audience.

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by BentNotBroken on Jul 21, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Intent

Mike jones. you had zero knowledge of my intentions before you started to incite outrage like a kid. I have seen more than a few of things you have written that could be construed as offensive, yet i don’t feel the need to try and start something when i have no idea your intent. You are so quick to scandalize (much like your snarky comments). I apoligized if anyone took offense, and clearly stated that was not my intent. It obviously wasn’t a popular term here and i will not use it again. Don’t EVER go to another site and see avatars of Mark May simulating an act that was caught by cameras while Lou Holtz (subject of the article) was speaking about Notre dame. I would hate for you to not be able to cast pious stones.

by biggy84 on Jul 20, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't even talking to you.

Like, literally, none of my response had anything to do with you.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keep it classy

or don’t, breeder.

I am aware of all internet traditions.

by HoosierCheesehead on Jul 20, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

ummmm

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

link fail

let’s try again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D_XLCmY0D8

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know, I know...

but implying that Mark May is one of my people is brutal…

I am aware of all internet traditions.

by HoosierCheesehead on Jul 20, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair

no one really wants to claim Mark May.

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Jul 20, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I 2nd this.

wait, doesn’t he already work for the SEC???

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

CBS?

I have the same fashion sense as Tom Arnold.

by CyHawk on Aug 1, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love the term breeder

It works on so many levels.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Robert Smith has always seemed reasonable to me.

And it’s not like Urban Meyer wouldn’t eventually rip Mark May’s throat out on air, which I think would be a very reasonable reaction.

by Albino Tornado on Jul 20, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Doesn't matter

I’ll sell a kidney if I have to.

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by Ted Glover on Jul 20, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Robert Smith

I think he’s the best they’ve got.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously people would prefer the latter

But that isn’t an option ESPN is going to provide. The choice isn’t between Lou and reasoned, informed commentary; it is between Lou’s comedic relief and the comedic relief of whatever D-list sports celeb they would rolace him with

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 21, 2011 1:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The same thing happened in baseball

They chased off Peter Gammons and made Harold Reynolds into a monster and now we’re stuck with guys like John Kruk and Chris Singleton (while Buster Olney and Tim Kurkjian sit there and look like they want to kill themselves the whole time).

Also, Pam Ward is a leading Big Ten football announcer, guys.

In other words: Do you expect anything else from ESPN?

by jhitts08 on Jul 19, 2011 11:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't mind Pam. She's bad but there's definitely worse

They need more Spielman in my opinion though.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 19, 2011 11:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pam. Kinda good, actually.

I like her. Very listenable, knows when to shut up. But I guess she’s not a big, lumbering, concussed ex-footballer, so there’s that.

Also, that picture of Lou Holtz has to be 200 years old.

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by HoosierCheesehead on Jul 19, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there's just something about her voice

That baritone-y voice she has bothers me at 11 a.m. on a Saturday while I’m still digesting my coffee.

I mean, I guess she’s obviously part of ESPN’s Big Ten “C” team so maybe I just have grown weary of her after all those late-season MSU morning games in years past — an extention of MSU’s relative futility until last season. (You know, all of those “Sparty No!” years where it was obvious that State was going to finish 6-6 and end up going to the Champs Sports Bowl. They’d put the MSU/Indiana or Northwestern game on at 11 a.m. Central and let ’er rip with Pam in charge.)

by jhitts08 on Jul 20, 2011 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Kinda good?

Maybe you should pay attention to the words she actually speaks. She says some pretty stupid things. You should go to awfulannouncing.com and search for Pam Ward and/or The Pammies awards.

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Platonic Ideal Announcer (tm) she is not...

But your evidence is that some people on the internet hate her calls? She wasn’t even a finalist for her own award last season. But seriously, there are people on the internet who hate Gus Johnson.

“He okay when he not screaming like a little girl. There are better guys calling games on westwood one.” (here)

Or maybe this: http://www.burntorangenation.com/2007/3/19/114423/110

There’s no just planet on which an “award” for bad announcing isn’t named for Brett Musburger. None. I mean, there’s that one time he gave away one team’s signals on live national television. Except if the person it’s named for is the only woman out there…

I am aware of all internet traditions.

by HoosierCheesehead on Jul 20, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

some people on the internet hate her calls

More than some.

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

what is the sound i make whenever Pam Ward calls my team’s games, Alex?

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Jul 20, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Her, Spielman, Millen, and whoever that bald guy is who they pair Millen with...

Just make me want to jam a fork in my ear. They have their talking points before the game, usually based upon the SportsCenter highlights and last two newspaper articles, and turn those points into a three-hour narrative that may or may not have any actual resemblence to what is taking place on the field. ESPN is lazy… I don’t even think they watch game film before going into the booth. The worst is when Millen announces that some college player, “Is going to have a great career in the NFL,” because we all know what a great evaluator of talent he was with the Lions.

by GTom on Jul 20, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Millen

Is the Devil. Seriously, I think ABC takes a sick pleasure in assigning him every MSU/Michigan game for the past three years.

by jhitts08 on Jul 20, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

alt.pamward.diediedie

I have the same fashion sense as Tom Arnold.

by CyHawk on Aug 1, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

She ruined the 2005 Northwestern-Penn State game.

If ever there was a Gus Johnson game, that should have been it…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 20, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Michigan-Northwestern in 2000...

…would like to have a word on what games in history should have been broadcast by Gus.

by Chadnudj on Jul 21, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gammons was never the same after his stroke.

Taking him off the air as a full-time guy was best for everyone.

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by U-God on Jul 20, 2011 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Corso had a stroke too.

But they keep trotting him out there.

by Albino Tornado on Jul 20, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

But Gammons is still on TV

MLB Network. And is still a competent reporter.

by jhitts08 on Jul 20, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou Holtz is on ESPN to attract the casual college football fan.

ESPN knows they get CFB addicts like myself regardless. So why not appeal to the older generation, the older less committed CFB fan. The fan that knows Lou won with ND! The type of college football fan who doesn’t know about Boise State or instant replay’s role in CFB. But gee golly knows who Lou Holtzth is.

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by BentNotBroken on Jul 20, 2011 12:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I would just like to say

that I think this is an issue that SEC and B1G fans can agree on.

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by Gregatron on Jul 20, 2011 12:34 AM CDT reply actions  

You're questioning ESPN personnel decisions and you decide to go after Lou Holtz?

#firecraigjames #firecraigjames #firecraigjames #firecraigjames #firecraigjames

Lou Holtz is only on when there isn’t football and thus is eminently avoidable (though I personally find him harmless).

#firecraigjames #firecraigjames #firecraigjames #firecraigjames #firecraigjames

by nuftw on Jul 20, 2011 1:04 AM CDT reply actions  

I don’t mind Holtz (Ohio guy and assistant under Woody), but i despise the rest of their crew.

by biggy84 on Jul 20, 2011 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Craig James had a situation with five dead hookers

at SMU. Allegedly.

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by Ted Glover on Jul 20, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Craig James?

The same Craig James who did not kill five hookers during his time at SMU?

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by John Veldhuis on Jul 20, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I want it to be perfectly clear

The rumors that Craig James killed five hookers at SMU are completely false.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 21, 2011 1:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Agree

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe the lisp option isn't getting more votes

I thought that was the obvious choice. Because at this point, when someone says “Lou Holtz”, I no longer think Notre Dame, or great coach. I just think of that lisp. It’s haunting.

by Packers3485 on Jul 20, 2011 3:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Teck-Thusss Teeee


Seriously though, I’d rather watch crazy old Uncle Lou over (insert generic pompous ass with expensive suit & pretty hair here).

by crowe1856 on Jul 20, 2011 7:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Although I have to say I'd MUCH rather listen to Meyer

than be spewed crap from Mark May or Holtz.

And while we’re at it, I’ll just throw this in: screw Craig James and Ed Cunningham.

by Skerz90 on Jul 20, 2011 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Allow me to ammend

I’d rather watch Lou over (generic ass with expensive suit & pretty hair who hasn’t EARNED the right to be pompous). If I’m not gonna gain any actual insight, they may as well keep encouraging Holtz to go on, and on, and on, and on (somebody get a towel…).

by crowe1856 on Jul 20, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I am aware of all internet traditions.

by HoosierCheesehead on Jul 20, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

My real issue is this

I take college football way too seriously. I love the game strategy (OMG Does Oregon run its offense at warp speed or mach speech), I love the analysis, I love the blog discussion on OTE and elsewhere…and I feel like Lou’s presence mocks college football. Oh you like football highlights and analysis? Sorry – for 16 weeks you get slobbering emotion driven discussion of not pertinent issues, instead of the football I love so much.

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by Graham Filler on Jul 20, 2011 7:44 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Reputation and celebrity is more important than....

providing actual value added analysis. Just look at Craig James.

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 7:44 AM CDT reply actions  

James is an outright douchebag, though.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 20, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also....

ESPN caters their broadcasts to the casual fan. The casual fan wants to be entertained by recognizable celebrities being funny, not in depth analysis.

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 7:49 AM CDT reply actions  

What about the motivational stuff, the kind of speeches that every young football player has cringed through when the uncool coach gets rolling in the locker room?

Lou is actually a damn good motivational speaker.

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 7:49 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

My wife has threatened to divorce me...

…if I leave the TV on ESPN when Sweet Dr. Lou is talking. His voice creeps her out.

by GoAUpher on Jul 20, 2011 8:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Lou Holtz's Siren's Call has gotten to you too!

Quick, tie yourself to the Washington Ave. Bridge before “Sweet Dr. Lou” talks you into moving Gopher Hockey to the Target Center or a mustache assassination attempt on Jerry Kill!

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Jul 20, 2011 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

My girlfriend

cracks up laughing every time she hears his voice coming from the TV. Then again we discussions about the different kinds of lisps there are.

by jayrocks on Jul 20, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

BBBRRRAAAAHHHHHHHHGGGGHGHGHADFJJKLADASDJLJ1!!

LOU HOLTZ!!!!

MUST… SMASH… SOMETHING…

WHY THE METRODOME?!?!?!?!

/sobs uncontrollably for all the gorgeous Saturdays spent under the nylon tent

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Jul 20, 2011 8:22 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

great post

Thanks for this.

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by Graham Filler on Jul 20, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like him

He’s like having an old semi-coherent grandpa watching the highlight show with you every week.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Jul 20, 2011 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I like Lou

Lisp aside, he’s funny and engaging. He knows football, and he knows the psyche of the college coach and how to prepare for a big game both as the underdog and the favorite.

A lot of what he could do is lost in the white noise that is Mark May and the manufactured bantering that they do, and ESPN would be a hell of a lot better off if they’d quit doing that. Mark May is an ass, but I think half of that is a ‘good cop bad cop’ the suits want them to do just to disagree on camera, and they want Lou to be this folksy hick dope that just says dumb stuff so Mark May can get all indignant.

I look at that, and then I look at what a quality show the B1G Network puts on with Revsine, DiNardo, and Howard Griffith. Put Lou in an atmosphere like that and I think he’d be the best in-studio coach analyst in the country.

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by Ted Glover on Jul 20, 2011 9:30 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

mmph

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by Graham Filler on Jul 20, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta agree

After reading for months I had to sign up and chip in.

Even with all the football knowledge he’s forgotten by now he still knows more than you. Unfortunately he has to sit next to MM without beating him senseless. Could you do that?

by jayrocks on Jul 20, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just so proud

That we have a former XFL Coach doing our analysis.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree...

…I know they may not be your cup of tea, but they (along with Glenn Mason) are not half as bad as the guys on ESPN, and they do some good work on Xs and Os. Plus, you get Teddy Greenstein (who does a great job covering the conference for the Chicago Tribune) and some other good outside commentary….

by Chadnudj on Jul 20, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, you're watching ESPN Pre-Game stuff?

You guys do realize we have our own network now, right?

Honestly, the Friday night and Saturday morning preview shows (with Dave Revsine, Mike Hall, Gerry DiNardo, Howard Griffiths, Teddy Greenstein, and Glen Mason) are about 10 times better than any ESPN pre-game show, and certainly much heavier on Xs-and-Os analysis.

by Chadnudj on Jul 20, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I can't look at ESPN the same way

after they didn’t not not suspend Feldman for writing a book with their permission.

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by John Veldhuis on Jul 20, 2011 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, maybe if Feldman had killed five hookers

while he was in college…something Craig James didn’t do, maybe he’d still be not not suspended.

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by Ted Glover on Jul 20, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

hmmmm

where do i recognize this from????

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure 1,000 people posted it over on EDSBS when the hooker thing

First broke. It’s from Dirty Work.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way underrated movie

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

by Seer on Jul 20, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

for sure

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another question

Who’s the worse Notre Dame-biased college sports homer: Lou or Digger? I vote Digger, by a landslide.

by jhitts08 on Jul 20, 2011 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

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