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B1G 2011//Four And Out: Looking at the B1G Non-Conference Schedule, Week 3

So we're halfway through the non-conference schedule, and how strong the conference is is probably being talked about ad nauseum by now.  Except by us, of course, because we know we're awesome.  If Minnesota and/or Penn State happen to pull off big upsets, it could portend the toughest top to bottom conference in years, and the 2011 season could be a college football equivalent of a Death March to get to Indianapolis.  A couple of unexpected losses by the bigger programs to lesser teams (and please, God, don't let it be to an FCS team), and it will be tough to get a BCS NCG slot with one loss if there are no undefeated teams.

Oh, and before we go any further, is it hot enough for you?  Whoever turned the Sun up to 11, please turn it down.


If week one was the appetizer, and week two was the main course, week three is like a second helping of the main course.  Because I'm counting six games that matter.  So unbuckle the belt, undo the top button of the pants, stick the finger down the throat, and grab you another hot dog, Mr. Chestnut, because there's plenty of food left.

Let's do it, after the jump.  And can somebody grab me a beer, because MY GOD it's hot.

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If Nathan Scheelhaase avoids the sophomore slump, Illinois is going places

Arizona State at Illinois:  Bama Hawkeye has this as his most anticipated non-conference game, and I can see why.  Illinois made some decent strides last year, and if they get a consistent defense I'm calling them the darkhorse for the Leaders division.  Their schedule sets up very well to go undefeated all the way until their game against OSU on October 15th, but to do that they need to beat an Arizona State team that's close to equal in talent.  If Illinois is to be taken seriously in the conference, a win here is almost mandatory.

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WR Marvin McNutt will be a big part of Iowa's offense in 2011

Pittsburgh at Iowa:  I put Iowa's game against Iowa State as a big non-conference game, primarily because it's a big in-state rivalry, and a loss would be disastrous for the conference.  You see, Iowa State kinda sucks, but Pittsburgh is coming off an 8 win season, a bowl win, Dave Wannstadt getting fired, and new coach Mike Haywood getting fired...for a domestic violence charge.  Yikes.  This will still be a real test for Iowa, as Pitt's defense was 15th in the nation in points allowed last year, and Iowa has new players at several key positions on offense.  But the Hawks get this game at home, and they should be favored.  And they should win.

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Can Edwin Baker and Sparty take it to 11, like the Sun currently is?

Michigan State at Notre Dame:  Michigan State wants to take the next step, and Notre Dame will more than likely be in their annual early season OHMYGAWDTHEIRISHARESOOOOBACK stage, especially if they beat Michigan.  Michigan State's season was defined, in many respects, by two things last year, 'Little Giants', and 'Big Ass Whoopin'.  But Michigan State finds themselves at a crossroads--they have arguably the most experienced team coming back in 2011, but also one of the toughest conference schedules (Iowa, Nebraska, OSU, and Northwestern, all on the road).  Which direction is Michigan State going to go?  If they're going to make the jump to the top of the conference on a regular basis, this game seems to be a must, and a win here really puts wind in Sparty's sails as they head towards conference play.  And hopefully, if Michigan has beaten Notre Dame the week before, the Irish will take their pre-season National Championship trophy and go home.

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Da'Jon McKnight, one of the better players you probably haven't heard of

Miami (OH) at Minnesota:  This is no MAC-rifice game, and it wouldn't be for any B1G team, as Miami is the defending MAC champion, and thumped Middle Tennessee State in the GoDaddy.com bowl.  (I'm sorry, if there are bowls called the 'GoDaddy.com bowl, there's just too many).  Oh, and Miami beat a then favored Jerry Kill coached Northern Illinois team for the MAC championship, so this will be a more realistic hurdle than USC will be for the Gophers.  No one really expects them to beat USC, but an off season of hope has a lot of people expecting them to beat Miami, and start winning games like this on a regular basis.

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Must care...must focus

Washington at Nebraska:  Nebraska's first big out of conference game as a member of the B1G, and Cornhusker fan, let me give you some words of wisdom:  lose this game, and you won't be able to use the 'well, they just didn't care about that game' excuse.  It might have worked in the Big Bevo, but now that you're in the conference that allegedly runs in Molasses, a loss here and you're terrible and slow.  All that said, you should win this game, because you should care.  Jake Locker is in the NFL, Taylor Martinez should be healthy and ready to go, and this should be a good barometer to see how much he has progressed.

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Who will carry the water with Brandon Saine graduated and Boom Herron suspended?

Ohio State at Miami (FL):  Well, well, well, what a difference 6 weeks makes.  What I considered a 'will win' game for OSU as little as the day before Memorial Day is now a HUGE question mark for the Buckeyes.  I'd feel a lot more comfortable if this game were in Columbus, but it's in Miami.  I want Luke Fickell to do well, but he's never been a head coach, so we have no idea how he'll handle in-game adjustments.  At quarterback, Joe Bauserman terrifies me, but he's the safe option, because like Fickell, freshman phenom Braxton Miller has no experience.  I think OSU still gets the win here, because we know all about Miami's quarterback, and JaFoury Harris will throw more passes to defensive backs than he will to his own wide receivers.  I see OSU riding a strong running game and stout defense the first few weeks of the season.  In short, they'll play Fickell's version of Tresselball, and if they do, they should get out of Miami with a win.

Poll
What's the biggest week 3 non-conference game?
Illinois-Arizona State
29 votes
Iowa-Pittsburgh
70 votes
Minnesota-Miami (OH)
9 votes
Michigan State-Notre Dame
155 votes
Nebraska-Washington
55 votes
Ohio State-Miami (FL)
151 votes
Other (Please explain below)
4 votes

473 votes | Poll has closed

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Gotta be MSU-ND

Assuming MSU even comes close to their success from last year, then beating Notre Dame is a must. Hell, beating Notre Dame is a must anyway. The conference takes a huge hit if ND wins two out of three (sorry Boilers).

Also, every knows Nebraska won’t lose, because it’s Washington. Nothing short of complete apathy could cause an upset like that.
/sarcasm
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///KillMe

by Skerz90 on Jul 20, 2011 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

and Notre Dame will more than likely be in their annual early season OHMYGAWDTHEIRISHARESOOOOBACK stage

hahahaha! Its an annual event!

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

i totally read this wrong

it took me like 4 tries to not see “oh my gawd their is hare soooo back”

but then i’ve had some to drink tonight so i may just suck at reading right now.

by pfoley on Jul 21, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It would have helped if there were spaces

Reading without spaces is too hard.

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by babaoreally on Jul 21, 2011 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Week 3 is where it's at...

….considering you left off Wisconsin-Northern Illinois at Soldier Field (Wisconsin should clearly roll, but still not an awful game), Northwestern at Army (Army’s got a fluky run offense and went bowling in 2010; Northwestern has….problems stopping the run), and Penn State-Temple (again, PSU should roll, but Temple’s probably one of the better non-BCS conference opponents out there).

I think this week comes down to Illinois-AZ State, Nebraska-Washington (winning these, along with potentially OSU-Colorado, USC-Minny and/or Wisconsin-Oregon State would mean a 4-1 or 5-0 record against the Pac-12 in non conference) and OSU-Miami (again, with Indiana-UVA and Northwestern-BC, winning this one could mean a 3-0 or 2-1 record over the ACC). I’ll give the nod to Illinois-AZ State, just because I think it’ll be the most competitive game out of the three.

by Chadnudj on Jul 20, 2011 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I stuck to AQ BCS schools

with the exception of the Minnesota game, because at this point, that would almost be an upset for the Gophers. Miami is a good team, and although NIU, Army, and Temple are good/okay teams (I think Temple will suck now that Al Golden is in Miami), the B1G team is definitely better, and should win.

Good luck with the option against Army.

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by Ted Glover on Jul 20, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm seriously terrified...

….of Army’s option attack. I’ve seen too many quirky running offenses run rough-shod over the Wildcats (Air Force, TCU, hell even Purdue’s option-read last year) to make me feel good about this game.

One cool thing, though — NU’s bringing a lot of fans to the game in a rather cool fashion. LakeThe Posts.com has organized a Northwestern “Sailgate” to the game — 3 boats with 150 NU fans each (they’re working on a 4th boat, too), will sail from Chelsea Piers up the Hudson to West Point, where passengers will disembark for the alumni tailgate and the game. Wish I could go….it’d be pretty awesome to take a flotilla of fans to a road game, particularly one at a school like Army (where, while you’re rooting for your team, you’re also rooting for your opponent in terms of a MUCH bigger game…)

by Chadnudj on Jul 20, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, that could be 600 fans ......

Or roughly half the typical Ryan Field turnout. Well done indeed, sirs!

by Torbee on Jul 20, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wow

This is going to get us so much shit. I mean, first the Armani suits joke and now boat shoes? I mean… geez.

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by Hilary Lee on Jul 20, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can just imagine

the “You’ll Swab Decks for Us!” signs…

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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 20, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Launching a naval assault on the Army

sounds like something Navy would do.

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Jul 20, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Fuck.

I, however, am road-tripping out there with some band friends. Soooo…slightly more down-to-earth?

by MNWildcat on Jul 20, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet that flotilla ends about as well

as the Dieppe raid did.

I kid, I kid.

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by Ted Glover on Jul 20, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone should win this week

The only possible loser will be Illinois. Because…we just can’t trust the Zooker and have no idea what he’s going to throw at us.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Ohio State v Miami

If Tressel were still the coach I’d go with Sparty this week, but this is Fickle’s first game against what should be good competition. As such, it’ll be the point where I can figure out how much money I’ll be spending at the liquor store this season.

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Jul 20, 2011 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

You might save some money

Vladimir and Banker’s Club are much, much cheaper than champagne.

by OctaShields on Jul 20, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Champagne is for celebrating

if I’m becoming a regular at the liquor store, it’s not because I’ve been celebrating. Of course I could always go the EDSBS route and drink ALL THE BLEACH.

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Jul 20, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

hopefully Miami is smart and benches Harris

Stephen Morris is better.

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by BoilerTMill on Jul 20, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully Miami is smart and benches Harris plays Harris and gets smoked.

/fixed
//you should be rooting for the Big Ten

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't do it

I married a Cane. I am concerned about my home life

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by BoilerTMill on Jul 20, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know you did

Its a lame excuse. Alma mater’s conference pride should take precedence.

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Conference pride?

You sound like an SEC fan. Here’s a list of teams I want to win: Purdue.

Will work for football.

by purwho on Jul 20, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get with the program

The first line of OTE’s non-con posts dating back to last season is as follows:

We have favorites and we have loyalties, but if the Big Ten is going to continue to gain national respect, we’re going to have to do it together. That means that we have to all be pulling in the same direction. Here’s what I want to see from each Big Ten team in their non-conference battles this week.

http://www.offtackleempire.com/2010/9/10/1680731/week-2-in-the-non-con-what-i-want

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya...no.

I won’t cheer for Iowa and Wisconsin. I won’t do it.

by GoAUpher on Jul 20, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Iowa Goophed

When they forgot to bring the Pig back to Iowa City

Just for fun:

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Jul 21, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Good point.

But at least we will always have the MetroDome!

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by BentNotBroken on Jul 21, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

That’s why it is a one time thing. Here is my hierarchy:
1. Purdue
2. Miami
3. The Big Ten
4. Anyone playing Notre Dame

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by BoilerTMill on Jul 21, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

No!

I cannot and WILL not support Michigan.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 25, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

samesies

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 25, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only time I have conference pride

is in Bowl games (and any game against ND). During the season, I hope everyone loses, except for Purdue!

Boiler Up! Hammer Down!

by JuJuan some Moore? on Jul 20, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel sad for you

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

See, I want my conference mates to win non-conference games

because that way, they’re higher ranked/better evaluated when they play my team. The SEC teams that play non-conference rivals (Florida/FSU, USC/Clemson, and Georgia/Tech) play them all late, where wins over a good opponent can mean more.

by Albino Tornado on Jul 20, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Horrible logic

The Big Ten doing better in non-con raises profile of conference and makes conference game wins more valuable.

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by PurdueMatt on Jul 20, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever true

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by BentNotBroken on Jul 20, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who do you want to win?

This is what I saw from your post:

You sound like an SEC fan. Here’s a list of teams I want to win:

/EDSBS’d

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by ClaybornSmash on Jul 21, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Screw that.

I will enjoy watching OSU lose way too much to care about the reputation of 10 teams I hate and two I love, both of which happen to be alma maters. It is not enough that I prosper; all others must fail.

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by Bob Genghiskhan on Jul 20, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

boo hooo

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't cry for me, Buckeye fan.

Or, to put it another way, you can forfeit all your wins, but you can’t forfeit a loss. Now go get your fuckin’ shinebox, and get ready to be mauled in Columbus yet again by the Badgers.

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by Bob Genghiskhan on Jul 20, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

keep talkin

because Russel Wilson is going to win the heisman somehow……

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he won't. But it won't matter.

Y’all are still not going to be able to cope with the 1600 lbs. of angry bulldozing offensive line Bucky brings to the table.

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by Bob Genghiskhan on Jul 20, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

wake me up when this game is even close to happening. i’ve grown tired of this.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Add him to the Buckeye Hater list!

Equity demands it!

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one should really discourage this perspective.

FUCK YOU WE’RE IOWA

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by BentNotBroken on Jul 20, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I chose Illinois

Because they can either be crazydarkhorseawesome this year or flail and flounder, struggling to become bowl eligible. I think this game may be a good barometer as they prepare for B1G play, and ASU isn’t going to suck.

by OctaShields on Jul 20, 2011 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not buying

the Illinois hype. They lost all the studs that made them a mediocre team last year. This is a 4-5 win season.

by jayrocks on Jul 20, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone who thinks Illinois isn't going to a bowl game or better

hasn’t been paying attention. They are the Dark Horse pick to win the Big Ten East.

by AhliBobwa on Jul 20, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Illinois will either win 9 games...

Or 5. There will be no middle ground for the Zook.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Voted for the Illini.

B1G gots to hold serve at home versus a desert dweller. This win coupled with PSU/Bama would be great.

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by BentNotBroken on Jul 21, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I woudl like to go with OSU v Miami

but, I don’t even think that’s the most interesting game on the slate that week. (maimi lost a lot, osu suspensions etc)

Iowa v Pitt could be interesting.

Fuck Notre Dame.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I voted Iowa vs Pitt because

These two teams seem to be middle tier and I think that’s where you find out how the conferences stack up against each other.

by jayrocks on Jul 20, 2011 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Middle tier what? Fuck you. We're IOWA!

/wants to be sarcasm, but deep down knows we hate everything

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jul 20, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

tOSU vs The "U"

I bet there will be more Buckeye fans there. South Florida has a TON of OSU fans.

by biggy84 on Jul 20, 2011 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Still hot

I’d still hit it.

/calls Hell, makes reservations

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by Ted Glover on Jul 20, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

prison sculpted body

just make sure to wrap it up ted……

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 20, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better be safe

And double bag it.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 20, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

double bagging

actually not safe. just single bag, for all of our sakes.

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by HoosierCheesehead on Jul 20, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is true

Double bagging just creates more friction and thus more likely that both break.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jul 21, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if you're going to Hell anyway

it can’t hurt to start scouting the talent while on Earth.

by OctaShields on Jul 20, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

can we have Graham, or another michigan fan say

“And please god don’t let it be an FCS team?”

Thanks.

by Fake Pelini on Jul 20, 2011 4:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Voted Pitt

Why?

1. Because I’m a PSU fan, so fuck Pitt. Go Iowa.
and
2. Because I’m a PSU fan, so fuck Ohio State and Miami. I’m not giving them my vote.

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by 06Lion on Jul 20, 2011 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Wannstedt

is available to replace Joe Pa

by biggy84 on Jul 20, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

And RichRod is available to replace Tressel

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by 06Lion on Jul 20, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

One could easily argue

RichRod is the best coach Ohio State could ever wish for

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Jul 20, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I fully endorsed

RR getting a lifetime contract at tsun.

by biggy84 on Jul 21, 2011 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

wooorrrddddd

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 21, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Annnnnnnnd that’s a rec

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by Ted Glover on Jul 21, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't really hate Ohio State more than any other good B1G school

if they weren’t constantly doing things that were so hateworthy. In fact, on a pure hate scale, I probably have hated Michigan and Nebraska more viscerally up until this past year. I’m sure I’ll stop hating Ohio State so much within a few years.

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by OctaShields on Jul 22, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

you wouldn't hate OSU

if they didn’t beat PSU.

There’s a reason that no one, outside of Purdue, hates IU.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 22, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is one reason, for sure

But there are many others.

Exhibit A: We don’t hate Iowa, and they’ve beaten us more often over the past 10 years than OSU. Ohio State, it’s football team and its fans just do a lot of things that are very hate-able.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jul 22, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

we are an excitable bunch

what do “we” do as fans that PSU(or any orther fan base doesn’t do?

what does the team do that others don’t?

i want to learn about this hate, so that I can make it worse.(onyl sort of joking)

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 22, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's really a matter of degree

Everyone has fans that are complete insufferable assholes. Ohio State just seems to have more. And if there is such a thing as a “collective attitude” among a team’s fan base, Ohio State’s attitude annoys me more than any school’s except probably (Okay, definitely) Michigan’s. And the reactions in the wake of Tressell-gate have generally just made me sad. (not to the pending infractions hearing – I get where you’re coming from there – just to the whole Tressel thing itself).

As for the team? You had Terrelle Pryor. Even you guys hate him now. And I never really liked Tressel based upon nothing but intuition, even before everything went down.

I don’t blindly hate Ohio State. I used to more affirmatively NOT hate them, including when they won in 2002. Recent events and reactions have soured me on OSU, and my hate has grown in step.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jul 22, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've never been a Tresselball hater

as much as it has frustrated me from time to time. It got results. That’s what matters. People that damn Tresselball and consider themselves OSU fans should be shot… in the leg and forced to walk through the desert.

I guess I understand it, just depends on who you run in to as there are bad apples in every bunch. When the bunch gets bigger, well.. you know.

I’ve always enjoyed giving PSU fans crap because half of my family is from PA (Erie and Bradford, two LOVELY places,Pittsburgh too) and I just felt like it was my turn to hand it out after the early 90s and all that "we’re going to dominate BS(like Nebraska now).

I have four teams I hate UM, USC, ND and whoever plays them. Everyone other than that I generally root for(or more likely not against) unless OSU plays them.

I can imagine how ol TERL rubbed you the wrong way, but then the tshirt thing happened and I’ve never felt bad for the way he abused PSU after that. Not the biggest fan of him now, more for his attitude and self-entitlement.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 22, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh...Tresselball

Never again will we see Jim Tressel and Kirk Ferentz in the Who Can Be More Conservative Bowl.

I'll just put COMING SOON down here.

by mikjones24 on Jul 23, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha

 switch OSU for Nebraska and PSU for Colorado and that statement worked for us in the Big texas

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