B1G 2011 // Ohio State Cocktail Party Preview
In 1821, the Caledonian Mercury wrote of the British Empire, "On her dominions the sun never sets." It's a quote I might have used to paraphrase this preview had I been writing it in late-February. Since then, of course, the gray sky over Columbus has fallen. James Patrick Tressel, a coach who most regard as one of the top two in the program's history is gone. Lost in his wake is the highest profile quarterback in modern Buckeye history as well as the stability that carried Ohio State football to eight BCS bowls and three national championship games.
Read that sentence again. It's representative of what the scarlet became in the Aughts.
[Conversation pointer courtesy of Scout.com: The Buckeyes have gone to six straight BCS games, won 66 games over those six years, and won the 2010 Rose Bowl and the 2011 Sugar Bowl. During that span they lost 11 games and just two of them – 2009 losses to USC and Purdue – came to teams that didn’t end up in BCS games. Even more impressively, starting with the 2002 national title win over Miami, they got a BCS invite in eight of the last nine seasons.
How big of a monster has Ohio State football been on the field? Over the last 23 years there have been just two losses to teams that finished the season with a losing record, and 1988 was the last time OSU finished a season with fewer than seven wins.]
But the bigger they are, the harder they fall. Or do they? While an entire nation of vultures circles Columbus, a team led by an inexperienced head coach and quarterback prepares to silence the doubters. At least that's what the banner hanging in the weight room at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center proclaims.
To be sure, there are bigger questions raised by Tattoo-gate and its fallout. Was Jim Tressel a fraud? Should players be allowed to sell personal memorabilia for profit? Is everyone doing it, and were the Buckeyes just unlucky enough to get caught?
In many ways the situation in Columbus is a referendum on intercollegiate athletic governance. But we're not here to talk about that today. We're here to talk about football, and for that I say thank God. On September 3rd eleven players will take the field to represent the 122nd incarnation of the Buckeyes. The deck will be as stacked against them as its ever been. Nevertheless, from the first whistle, they'll play. For loyalty. For spirit. For courage. For grandeur. For strength. For Ohio.
Ohio State at a glance...
First Season: 1890
Head Coach: Luke Fickell (1st Year, 0-0)
All-Time Record: 831-309-53 (.719)
2010 Record: 12-1 (7-1 Conference)
There's no question that for better or worse Ohio State has been the Big Ten's poster child for almost a decade. Jim Tressel's teams followed a predictable and devastatingly effective formula to national success. Efficient offenses and opportunistic defenses bullied conference opponents up and down the field. Under the blunt emblem of "Tresselball," Buckeye teams played smart, fundamentally sound football, and leveraged turnovers and field position into double digit leads that were virtually insurmountable.
What Tressel-teams lacked in style, they made up for in smarts. It didn't hurt that Tressel built a wall around the state, funneling talented after talented crops of recruits to the capital, where they kept the cogs of a well-oiled machine humming. At the same time, Jimmy T made great inroads nationally, farming Florida and other talent hotbeds for speed.
In many ways, 2001 to 2010 was a golden era in Columbus. But like all great dynasties, all good things must end. The leadership is gone. The seniority is suspended. In its place is a pantheon of uncertainty.
In the cupboard...Total returning starters: 12 (7* Offense, 4 Defense, 1 Special Teams)
2011 was supposed to be a final hurrah for one of the most talented senior classes in Ohio State history. Instead, first-year Head Coach Luke Fickell will try to maintain momentum with four starters suspended for the first five games, and a giant question mark at quarterback.
The unenviable task of following persona non grata Terrelle Pryor who compiled an impressive 31-4 record as a starter in three seasons in Columbus will almost certainly fall to either senior Joe Bauserman or freshman Braxton Miller.
Bauserman is the safe choice. He backed up Pryor for the last three seasons, and knows the offense as well as anyone. But Bauserman's 72 percent completion percentage and 160 passer rating in 2010 was built largely in a mop up capacity. The timid, awkward signal caller lacks virtually everything that made Pryor successful in Columbus and fans are still scarred by a mediocre performance at Illinois last year when Pryor was temporarily sidelined.
Miller is the people's choice. The phenom freshman was already the heir apparent to Pryor when he was recruited in the mold of the classic dual-threat signal caller. There's little question that Miller is the future of the program -- his spring game performance cemented that -- but it remains to be seen whether Fickell will stake his job on a trial by fire baptism of a freshman quarterback, who is bound to experience growing pains as he transitions into the college game. Miller may not have Pryor's unique combination of size and speed, but his arm is at least as good as Pryor's, and his wheels would certainly keep opposing defenses honest.
Lost in the quandary of quarterback questions is the fact that the Buckeyes still have an embarrassment of riches at running back. Before Dan Herron returns from suspension in game six at Nebraska, the Buckeyes will spread carries between Jordan Hall and Jammal Berry -- both highly touted recruits who are equal parts force and finesse. Don't expect to see Fickell depart from the tried and true "three yards and a cloud of dust" mentality that has helped the Buckeye attack wear opposing defenses down for four decades.
Also overlooked in the cloud of skepticism is the fact that the Buckeyes boast arguably the nation's best center in Michael Brewster. Brewster will anchor a line that will miss the immediate impact of Mike Adams, but still should hold its own in Big Ten play.
That's on the ground. In the air, Jim Bollman's unit will struggle to find experienced hands to reel in passes. Until senior DeVier Posey returns from suspension they'll be a noticeable lack of go-to receivers. Expect Ohio State to mitigate the damage by relying on short passes out of the backfield to running backs -- the specialty of first-year receivers coach Stan Drayton, who hails from Florida.
On the other side of the ball, the "Silver Bullets" won't be nearly as polished as they've been in recent seasons, especially at linebacker where Jim Heacock's crew will have to replace tackling laureates Brian Rolle and Ross Homan. Still, junior Etienne Sabino will be a welcome addition in the midfield after a redshirt season and the appropriately named Storm Kline and veteran Andrew Sweat should hold down the fort. The wild card here is junior Tyler Moeller, whose speed and ferocity thrilled fans in 2010 before he was sidelined with a torn pectoral muscle. Moeller's intensity is a much needed tonic for a defense that needs to find its voice early.
The defensive line is also ravaged by graduations and suspensions. Still, the Buckeyes have at least one ace in the hole in John Simon -- the star defensive tackle who should move to defensive end to help support the unit's trademark pass rush. Sophomore DT Johnathan Hankins is also no slouch, and opponents who expect to see a soft front four might find themselves sorely mistaken.
Junior Orhian Johnson is the gem of the secondary, and will likely set the tone at strong safety. His presence will alleviate the pressure on the corners, but cornerback remains the defenses' most noticeable weakness.
The early conference schedule won't do the Buckeyes any favors with an October 1st visit from Michigan State and October 8th trip to Nebraska, both Legends Division favorites, but if the Buckeyes can find their identity early -- especially on the road in Miami -- they're capable of squeezing in another solid season before the NCAA hammer drops.
| Date | Opponent |
| 09/03/11 | vs. Akron |
| 09/10/11 | vs. Toledo |
| 09/17/11 | @ Miami |
| 09/24/11 | Colorado |
| 10/01/11 | vs. Michigan State |
| 10/08/11 | @ Nebraska |
| 10/15/11 | @ Illinois |
| 10/29/11 | vs. Wisconsin |
| 11/05/11 | vs. Indiana |
| 11/12/11 | @ Purdue |
| 11/19/11 | Penn State |
| 11/26/11 | @ Michigan |
| 12/03/11 | Big Ten Championship |
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MONDAY | Cocktail Party Preview |
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TUESDAY | Point/Counterpoint |
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WEDNESDAY | 4th and 3 |
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If it’s tOSU I demand sensationalism. None of this “actual journalism” crap. I’m calling Dennis Dodd at once.
ha
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by Graham Filler on Jul 5, 2011 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions
/SportsbyBrooks
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by BuckeyeSki on Jul 5, 2011 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you, Jonathan. Very well said.
Thank you, in particular, for the confidence I “heard” between the lines. After a couple of very bad months, we are back to talking about the “next guy up.”
It’s interesting that, very quickly after Pryor’s exit, the daily bashings of tOSU from the media noticeably diminished. I’ve never watched/experienced such a media feeding frenzy; like the sharks got their two kills and then moved on. Still can’t really make sense of what happened. Fortunately, tOSU seems out of the target zone; more like USC was for years — the scandal got talked about, but not by everyone and not all the time and not all at once.
Anyway, as said, great read. Glad to be talking about football; glad to hear/read folks talking with some confidence about the upcoming season; glad to be moving forward.
Go BUCKS!!
Okay, this talking of 'football' when talking about OSU
is damn inconvenient. I want scandal, indignation, outrage, and hyperbole, and I want it now!!!!
No?
Well, okay. Then in that case, I think I’d rather roll the dice with Braxton Miller. I wish Joe Bauserman had been one of the tattoo guys so he couldn’t play.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Proud member of team A.B.B.
since he joined the team in 1996. Seriously, how old is he, like 30?
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He's older than Chris Weinke
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
He's not much older than Tyler "The Terminator" Moeller
who is playing this year thanks to a medical redshirt.
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
Thats only because this guy punched him in the back of the head because Tyler said "T-Bone" wouldnt win the Heisman twice

With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
That's....that's not a real person
It can’t be.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Walmart's in Gainesville
are FULL of people that shouldn’t exist
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Brett Favre's really let himself go...
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
by Marshmoose on Jul 5, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I just don't think Seth Green's got enough hillbilly in him to pull that off
he was on Buffy the Vampire Slayer… and I think those are Wranglers
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
wow; wouldn't be all that bad, but those HAIR extensions -- what. is. with. those. hair. extensions?? Gawd, please tell me that's not real hair!!
just an embarrassment to everyone, straight, gay and female. being gay and having a hard-on for Tebow is, like, fine-whateva! But what is with that hair.
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I want scandal, indignation, outrage, and hyperbole, and I want it now!!!!

by SpartyFever on Jul 5, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Still funny
Will never not be funny.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Don't worry
TP prepared IOUs for all the money he borrowed. They are as good as cash.
Here's betting that Bauserman is the "starter"
At the beginning of the season but Miller overtakes him in the Miami game, just like Pryor a few years ago. Playing Bauserman is the “safe” move, one that will appeal to the coaches, until it becomes obvious that, with a limited WR corps, they need a QB that brings a run threat to keep defenses honest.
It will be interesting to see how well OSU reloads this season, as this has been the trademark of the Tressel era. And if the NCAA sends down scholarship reductions, it may be the last time for a number of years that OSU is able to do so.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jul 5, 2011 11:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
OSU doesn't have the O-line to give Basuerman a chance
even if he was good. Which we all know isn’t true.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 5, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
The O-line depth is a concern for me, not the starters. Bauserman’s lack of mobility will hurt the line. I actually think Bauserman is less mobile than Beockman.
How is that even humanly possible?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 5, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think it was.
Beockman(spelling?) never threw away a pass to avoid the rush. He would stand there and wait to get the shit knocked out of him, then put the ball on the turf. In the spring game, Bauserman was getting sacked by his OWN teammates. They are both human sun dials.
REPENT YE FOR THE END IS NIGH!!!!
Biggy and I are in agreement
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Can't wait for Luke Fickell to visit this site the first time he puts Miller in
I’d rather roll the dice with Braxton Miller.
“Consider them rolled”
Im excited about the defense this year
While the secondary is fairly green, there is a ton of speed back there. Johnson played well last year, after he got the jitters out. Travis Howard is set for a breakout year. CJ Barnett is a beast over the middle, I could literally hear the shoulder pads pop from B-Deck when he was laying out Cryami’s WR’s. The D-Line will be a strength, with Jon “He Ate Me” Hankins demanding double-teams in the middle, allowing Williams and Simon to run free on the edges. Moeller is a great player, but I worry about his ability to stay injury free for an entire season
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Your post reads as though
OSU is joining the XFL this year
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jul 5, 2011 11:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Even that
made me laugh
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 5, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
People keep saying that OSU will be in the pits this year
but honestly, it’s Ohio State. Just because they lost JT, Pryor, and 4 other players (for the first 5 games) doesn’t mean they’re out of the picture.
JT’s team is still there teaching Tresselball. They have an incredible amount of talent. Yea, they have some question marks but what team doesn’t? MSU has a green O-line, UM has a new coach/system, Purdue has stocked up on replacement ACLs, Indiana is Indiana, Iowa has a new QB, Penn State can’t find a QB, Wisconsin has a lot of inexperienced players on offense…sorry for the run-on sentence.
OSU will do just fine, aside from the melt-down they will have on Oct. 1.
If Ohio State wins this year what does it really mean?
This team probably won’t be clean until Tressel’s players are gone.
Was Jim Tressel a fraud?
No. He was a hell of a coach. Had he run a clean program, his results would have been similar.
Should players be allowed to sell personal memorabilia for profit?
Something needs to be done. Don’t know what.
Is everyone doing it, and were the Buckeyes just unlucky enough to get caught?
It probably happens a lot, but nowhere near “everybody”. Ande “stupid” not “unlucky”. Unlucky is when you do it once or twice and get caught. When you do it over and over, it’s just the inevitable odds catching up to you.
As much as some of us wish for it, OSU is not going to suck this year. They’re going to be pretty darn good. Probably not Conference Champ or BCS good, but 8 or 9 wins wouldn’t surprise me. Just beat Nebraska, OK. It’s the one game this year I’ll be rooting for you in.
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Jim Tressel is a huge fraud.
He’s a “person who acts in a false or deceitful way” if I’ve ever seen one.
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by the_white_tiger on Jul 5, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
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Coach Tressel made a mistake — a big one, yes — but a mistake. He’s not Jeffrey Dahmer.
His punishment was laid out; he would have “done his time” (and any more handed out by the NCAA). He would have, therefore, redeemed himself. Redemption: a good thing; a moral thing; a godly thing.
The proper response to redemption is forgiveness which is also good, moral and godly.
If you think there is no redemption, then all thieves, drug convicts, etc., should be given life sentences. Otherwise, there is no point in serving ones punishment. However, our society deems it just and right to give a punishment so that the transgressor has the opportunity to change and to be forgiven and to return and contribute to civil society.
Coach Tressel does not deserve this proverbial life sentence and the death penalty on which you and your ilk are insisting.
Having said that, several words for you. Start with two: Appalachian State. Suck on it, losers!
Add two more: Rich Rodriguez. I’d rather have a coach willing to accept his punishment for a bad mistake than have a coach who was such a giant loser. Boohooo… let’s sing some Josh Groban, shall we? “I want to be a Michigan man!!”
And, it will ALWAYS be 9-1 regardless of any “vacated” wins mandated the NCAA. NINE AND ONE!
GO BUCKS!
by WarBuck46410 on Jul 5, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I never said he was anything like Dahmer. Not even a little bit close.
I didn’t say there’s no such thing as redemption, and I didn’t saying Tressel couldn’t have done it (although a show cause penalty by the NCAA would have probably sent him to the pros).
I didn’t say he deserved a life sentence.
I’d rather have Rodriguez than a liar, a cheater, a fraud, and a hypocrite.
We lost to Appalachian State, congrats, way to go.
It will still be 9-1, and Tressel will have cheated for the majority of his tenure. Somehow I doubt that he’ll be painted in a positive light outside of Ohio State’s ridiculously delusional homers.
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by the_white_tiger on Jul 5, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I gotta side w/ white tiger on this one
Warbuck, you can’t just take the definition of Fraud and turn it into some ridiculous rant that has absolutely nothing to do w/ what whitetiger said. You clearly invested too much into Tressel. Go home. Dry your tears. Wipe your butt. Get over it and be excited that the team you root for is moving forward, the right way.
/allegedly
Skol!
Imagine that
You siding on an anti-Tressel post. Wow, what a shocker. We get it, you hate OSU etc. How about talking about actual football?
He wasn't the one who initially brought it up.
It was a Tressel supporter.
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by the_white_tiger on Jul 5, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
If one mistake means you're a total fraud, then we all may be frauds
I’ve met Tressel several times and know people that have known him for years. Sooner or later, a fraud gets caught. I just don’t think you can “fake it” over a 30 year career, not in the age of new media. If there truly were any skeletons in Tressel’s closet, they’d have come out awhile ago, since people like Mark Schlabach exist.
The guy screwed up. He tried to handle the situation like a father. Why voluntarily turn your kids over to the cops for something stupid? Wouldn’t you want to handle it yourself?
That said, he screwed up. He violated a rule set forth by the NCAA, which is not necessarily the standard for morality. He deserved punishment. But that doesn’t make him a fraud.
Did you ever have pre-marital sex with a girl and then go to Church the next day? Maybe do soem underage boozing too, despite signing a petition with your high school athletic department saying you wouldn’t? Well, then I guess you’re just a big fraud as well.
Tressel deserved punsihment, I agree with that. But the guy isn’t a fraud. Right now, there are literally hundreds of journalists going through his past for more juicy stories. You know what they have? Absolutely nothing. In fact, most are finding out people from his past love the guy and validate his image: http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/jerry-sullivan/article444484.ece
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Jul 6, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
This was written before the Dohrmann bombshell disappointment. More than one mistake, I think.
The whole “he was acting like a father and protecting his players” attitude is absurd. Why couldn’t he have come clean after everyone found out about it in December?
And I’ve messed up, sure, but I haven’t willfully deceived millions of people with my lies.
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by the_white_tiger on Jul 6, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Interesting
Add two more: Rich Rodriguez. I’d rather have a coach willing to accept his punishment for a bad mistake than have a coach who was such a giant loser. Boohooo… let’s sing some Josh Groban, shall we? "I want to be a Michigan man!!"
I find it interesting you say you’d rather have a coach willing to accept his punishment than Rich Rodriguez and yet, Tressel skipped out on the mandated NCAA compliance seminar in Tampa. And guess who showed up: recently fired Rich Rodriguez for the Michigan practice violations.
Josh Groban's World Tour is on hiatius
and he’s not allowed in West Virginia anymore, what else was he going to do? Take RitaRod to poundtown?
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Rb position looks great
Rod Smith has been very impressive and could be the hammer we need. There is talk that Hall will be moved to wr. Berry/Smith could be a formidable duo. Bauserman may be a great guy, but i want Miller or Guiton.
nonono the OTHER Rod Smith
he’s seemed like a freak of a back, but I do worry about his vision based upon the spring game.
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Jul 5, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
ummmm what?
Bauserman is the safe choice
if you think 7-5 is acceptable.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 5, 2011 12:02 PM CDT reply actions
"What's wrong with going 7-5, huh?!"
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by BuckeyeSki on Jul 5, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
He's measuring out field turf for his St. Patty's day outfit
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
Awesome.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
It is acceptable
take it from someone who had to live through their school putting up an absolutely dreadful 2008 season.
I don’t think Ohio State is going to go 7-5 at all, but the fact is that ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, especially with Tressel gone. Except maybe losing to Minnesota. Ohio State just doesn’t do that.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 5, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Minnesota and OSU don't play until 2013
So much like Michigan the past two seasons, we’ll be letting them recover from this mess before getting back to regularly scheduled floggings
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
Also
why do we get a pic of a male cheerleader?? come on now…
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 5, 2011 12:13 PM CDT reply actions
part of sanctions
sorry…
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by Graham Filler on Jul 5, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
hurrrrrrrr
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 5, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
What? the NCAA gonna dock us 10 hot cheerleaders per year for three years and put us on mast --- er, sorry -- probation?
geez. and here I thought the worst that could happen was the death penalty.
You have to have hot cheerleaders for them to take them away
…you left yourself wide open…
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
oh, wait ... I thought of a better reply!
left ourselves wide open, just like your momma! zing!
This thread is promising.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 5, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
The descision against female cheerleaders was a good one...No?

"For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue!
Man that one in the middle
looks like she should be clearing holes for the running backs.
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
Am I the only non-Buckeye fan that thinks OSU wins the B10 this year?
They have the most talent (even with the suspensions) of any team in the league. The conference road games (@Nebraska, Illinois, Purdue and Michigan) are exactly murderer’s row and the team will be playing with a pretty big chip on its shoulder. I fully expect 10-2, 6-2 with a championship game appearance.
Not to mention, OSU's two biggest intradivision games
will be played in Columbus.
and, unless a new Notice of Allegations comes from the NCAA, there will be no post-season ban.
So, it’s either us or Wiscy representing the B1G East in the CCG. Yes, that’s right. B1G East. Delany is an idiot when it comes to naming divisions. (Otherwise, he’s scary awesome and I wouldn’t want to be on his sh*t list.)
We'll find out Aug 14th, i believe
Who the hell knows what the NCAA will do. Not like they’re consistent or anything.
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Here's a question....
Does intra-division record trump overall or conference record?
Just asking, because I did a painfully to early prediction of the season (save the hatred/disagreement…I’m not daring to commit to this in truth), and I have OSU losing 1 game in-division (to PSU), 2 other games in conference (Nebraska and MSU) and one non-con (Miami)….but that would be only 1 in-division loss, which is the same as I have for Wisconsin (I have them 11-1 with the lone loss to OSU).
So, if intra-division record is all that matters….OSU goes because they have only one Legends loss, and beat the only other Legends 1-loss team (Wisconsin), despite the Badgers being 11-1 compared to OSU’s 8-4….
That can’t be right, can it? (The intradivision being the top tie-breaker/focus, not the painfully bad accounting of my predictions) You have to look at conference record overall first, THEN within the division (Wisconsin would be 7-1, OSU 5-3)…..right?
I don't think so
Overall conference record trumps, but the intra-division carries more weight in tie-breaker scenario.
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Wisconsin would go in your scenario
I’ve seen a lot of situations where people (like Rittenberg and Bennett on ESPN) say that all a team has to do is beat everybody in their division and they’ll go to the CCG, but that’s not necessarily true. A team could go 5-0 in their own division, but 0-3 in interdivisional matchups and miss out because someone else in their divison went 7-1 overall. Criteria are in this order:
Conference Record
Head-to-Head
Overall Record
Then I believe it is BCS standings (in case more than 2 teams tie)
However, there’s always the possibly of a clusterf*ck, even with divisional play. Just ask the 2008 Big XII South.
As Wisconsin proved in last year's Rose Bowl...
Coaching can lose more football games than talent wins.
I’m not high on OSU until their coach can prove he can coach, and there’ll be plenty of chances to fail.
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
kind of ironic comment about coaching
from a gopher fan.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 5, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The same could be said about the last 50 years in Minnesota
But what’s the fun in beating a dead horse? Plus I missed Wisconsin Hate Week :(
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
beatign a dead horse
what everyone’s been doing since…. January or so?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 6, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The same exact staff
is still there. They may really miss Tress, but it’s not like they have a whole new staff and scheme. I know they are pissed.
But Tress was the guy
If I could make an analogy, like say, Gen Patton in WWII. Would the 3rd Army have had as much success if Patton’s staff had been there but Patton hadn’t? Not trying to compare a game to life and death, but leadership makes a lot of difference, and putting Fickell in as coach is akin to promoting Patton’s assistant S-3 who’s never been a platoon leader, much less a company commander in to command the whole army.
Might turn out to be as good as Tressel was in the long run, and he might be a disaster. We just won’t know, and assuming the machine will run as smoothly just because everyone but the main guy is there seems overly optimistic until we see Fickell make in game decisions.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
It encourages me because the players know the systems, coaches etc. There also consultants on staff, one of which (Adolph) was an NFL head coach. Earl and Coop will still have offices there too. I could be wrong, but i like the infrastructure in place.
Just make sure Coop is on vacation
during Michigan week, and I’m okay with everything else.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
by Ted Glover on Jul 5, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fickell = Omar Bradley?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 5, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I would like that!
certainly better than Omar Vizquel (although Omar is one of my all time favorite Indians)
With the NCAA nothing is simple with infractions...
though it should be. Dez Bryant lied to the NCAA about a lunch with Deion Sanders (which wasn’t even a violation) and got a year suspension. A kid, that was just scared…
Tressel lied to the NCAA multiple times about multiple infractions (and sorry per NCAA definition he is fOSU [And he’s the adult in the room]) they aren’t getting a slap on the wrist.
TATS, cars, anything else… those are all secondary and are just kids fucking up; The lying however, by the adult in the room, is what should bring the hammer.
Thing is… even if the hammer is dropped, as it should be, it won’t really cause anything but a bump to fOSU.

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