B1G 2011//OSU Hate Thread: It's Just Too Easy This Year
by Graham Filler on Jul 8, 2011 12:20 PM CDT
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PrintCheaters. Liars. Arrogant, above the law minded bureaucrats. Arrogant, above the law minded players.
And it's all coming back to haunt the Bucks.
We don't even need a Rivalry piece this week. Why spend energy hating OSU when you can just wallow in their downfall? We have today's news. And August's impending NCAA decision. And TresselGate. And Pryor taking his talents to...somewhere else.
So please, OTE writers, readers, and visitors...Tell us what you really think of THE Ohio State University. Tell us what it's like to be smashed yearly by a team that cheated the entire time. Tell us what your plans are for celebrating a (much more) probable win over the Buckeye's in 2011.
Hatehatehatehatehatehate
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That's it? Really?
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
by BuckeyeSki on Jul 8, 2011 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
An appropriate amount of hate...
…..for a team that did not play a game last year.
by Chadnudj on Jul 8, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
That's not true.
They played Wisconsin. Ohio State finished 0-1.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jul 8, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Fair enough...
….1/13th the hate for a team that played 1/13th of a full schedule.
And I'll note.....
…that the 2010 Buckeyes are now the least impressive 1-loss team in history.
by Chadnudj on Jul 8, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 16 recs
HA!
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Wait...they beat out the 2006 Badgers?
/yes, I went there, I can do that
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice work Chadnudj...that's awesome
I think this is what the author had in mind. To be fair, he wasn’t going to do the shit-fest justice. He just gave a nudge and sat back to watch THE bat shit crazy.
Skol!
my memories of beating iowa and michigan still remain
iowa football: consistently crushed by expectations since ..forever.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
oh no...
i just got /Vanderbeek’d
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like your team just got Vanderbeek'd, too.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I will express no hate in this thread
It’s easy for me to hate a team that is just plain better than mine. I can’t scrape up much resentment for a team that has been proven to break the rules to achieve an advantage.
“Disappointment” is the appropriate term at this stage.
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by 06Lion on Jul 8, 2011 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
This
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 8, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
We're not mad, OSU, just disappointed
We expected more from you, we thought you were mature enough to handle the situation but apparently you’re not. I hope you understand why you’re being sent to your room without supper. Hopefully when you get out you’ll be a little wiser and a little better behaved.
Tattoos so cool our players played better.
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Lee Evans says hello.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Go to hell.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
Hey, it was his way of getting revenge on Gamble for the 02 game.
I’m not complaining.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 9, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
all of your team's losses still count though
wahhh wahhhhhhh
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 12:44 PM CDT reply actions
So what you're really saying
is that Purdue went 16-8 last year?
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
Man... If this is the 'hate' we get in the B1G, I'm all in
Seriously, I’m rational, but when given the chance to tear into another person’s team… more could be done. For example, even as an outsider to the hate (We just don’t have history with OSU for me to care), I could point out the absolute joy in watching tOSU wallow in misery and exclaim from the rooftops, “Why us? We’re innocent!” Or, we could talk about the overwhelming happiness we will all have in watching the NCAA infractions committee tear the compliance department a new one for not realizing their STAR QB was receiving extra benefits. While this might all be rehash, that’s the beauty of it all. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. If I’m a Michigan fan (man?) I’m going to go ahead and scream it from the rooftops that Ohio State is nothing but a cutrate, cheating, miserable excuse for a university, organization that can’t even cheat correctly (I promise every major university in the midwest is cheating. There is NO reason to choose a B1G school over the ocean. If you’re a 4* prospect and are greeted by USC song girls and chose Columbus, you were getting paid).
Of course, that’s maybe the most fascinating thing about the B1G so far. While Iowa has proven they are more than worthy of their title as, “Iowa – we hate everyone” the congeniality and decorum has been somewhat of a letdown. With a conference history just longer than Paterno’s lifespan, I’d expect some quality hatred coming down the pipeline. If, for example, Nebraska had something like this happen, I promise Mizzou, Kansas, K-State, Colorado, Iowa State, Oklahoma, and even Oklahoma State could produce some quality hatred about how we went from “The Nebraska Way” to trash. I expect you all to do the same (Note: I do not expect this to happen to Nebraska, and I pray to God it doesn’t, but in such case… Well, I expect nothing but full-on hatred from everyone. That’s what makes it fun).
I’m looking for one-liners about the trash in Columbus, pictures of Tressel as Satan, arguments that tOSU would never have been good if they hadn’t cheated (which is crap, but this is hate day), verbal assaults that make baby kittens cry, and unabashed vitriol that is saved only for rivalry week. Greatest rivalry in all of football? It is hard for me to say that it still exists if this is all you could muster. So lets ramp this thing up!!! Live up to your (my) expectations. Entertain me.
by KennardHusker on Jul 8, 2011 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
First of all
Shut up, Nebraska fan.
Second, the last 9 months or so have left us all a bit exhausted. Day in and day out, we’ve been beating the bloated corpse of Ohio State football. Like Foreman wailing away on Ali (Parkinson’s edition), we’re gassed. I daresay we’ve managed to float the hate keg that we never thought would run dry.
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by 06Lion on Jul 8, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Appreciated
That was the most hate-filled thing I’ve heard all day, and I’m glad my rant could get that out of you. I really am not as pretentious as that post sounded, but come on, I was excited for this day. This is what people told me about when we joined the B1G. Hate unmitigated. This? Meh… Of course, precluding a much busier day at the office, maybe I’d do the same.
by KennardHusker on Jul 8, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can see how it would be disappointing for you, Husker.
Seeing as how, in this conference, we try to use wit and complete sentences. These are probably things you didn’t witness in the Big 12. Over there, you guys probably just called each other “gay” and went to your separate trailers.
/hatey enough?
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lot of thread left Chazz
Warming up, but next time, let the hate…..where could you put it?……….right here!
Skol!
Excuse me.
This is a Big Ten football blog. Meaning that ripping into another person’s team is not only accepted here, but ENCOURAGED. Just dig through the site archives.
And a lot of us don’t like jO$U. So there’s that as well. The Wisconsin Badgers fans will give Buckeyes fans all kinds of grief here because of what happened last October in Camp Randall Stadium with jO$U was ranked as #1.
Before you come in complaining about the grief we give each other, just be sure you know where you are.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 8, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you missed my point
In hindsight, this sounded arrogant. Really, I was saying that you all just didn’t rip into each other as much as you claimed. I mean, you get all geared up for tearing each other apart and we end up with a) “Your team is so dumb, we don’t care” b) “Your team is so dumb, it’s easier not to say why” c) Your team is so dumb, I’ll let everyone else say why.
Still, I respectfully recant my previous post. Bitch at me all you want. The grief wasn’t meant to be widespread, it was more in surprise of the mild levels of hate I had come to expect.
by KennardHusker on Jul 8, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh
“The Ohio State Way’ was already trash.
Besides, no one really hates OSU the way they do Michigan. Something about prestige, glory, and a few other words a graduate from Columbus couldn’t spell without a dictionary.
Our prestige and glory happened after the Titanic sank.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
Word on the street
is that Graham is a tOSU secret super-fan. This article does nothing to refute that claim
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
by BuckeyeSki on Jul 8, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
FAKE ASS WOLVERINE
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
by Ted Glover on Jul 8, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Can I triple rec this?
In fairness, the University of Miami (Version O.H.) doesn’t really have a lot of reason to hate OSU. Except for hockey, I’m not sure they play meaningful games in any sport.
There is a reason
that we refer to Graham as The Michiganian Candidate.
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Wolverine Liberation Army approves.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't see this one coming. From a mile away.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 8, 2011 1:12 PM CDT reply actions
Oh, and also since it's hate day
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 8, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is a better photo of failure...
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jul 8, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The best photo of failure
is TPryor’s grade in College Reading and Writing 101.
Every professor fails you, fails me.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
BOOOOO!!!!
Mediocre play on the field, mediocre hate off.
MICHIGAN SUCKS!
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by Ted Glover on Jul 8, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
HEY!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
you obv run a gerg 3-3-5 hate
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 10 recs
Rec'd
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 8, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess Mike Hart wasn't available
with the lockout and being like 8th string running back, you’d think he’d have some time on his hands….
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To my knowledge
Mike Hart can’t talk shit after losing 4 straight…especially after he failed to exist in the 2007 game.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Jefferson Starship Reference = Hate Art Day!!!
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
by Marshmoose on Jul 8, 2011 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
We built this team on tatoos and weed!
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Forgot the extra t. Grammar Fail.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
My dorm!
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
yeah, because that makes sense.
ever grateful. ever butthurt.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was just mean and an unfair comparison to boot
SMU won way more games than OSU last season.
by Mango Stasi on Jul 8, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That leads me to an interesting question
Who should be more embrassed, SMU fans for giving us Craig James or OSU fans for giving us Terrelle Pryor?
SMU fans
always SMU fans.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
and Eddie George, and Speilman, and Orlando Pace
and not DJK
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
DJK sold me a handful of mixed painkillers and qualudes
to help with the sanction pains
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by BuckeyeSki on Jul 8, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Everyone may or may not steal and murder but there's only one Craig James
Some things are beyond forgiveness and Craig James is one of them.
Sometimes I just want to
take Craig James and lock him a closet.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Haha, holy fucking shit. Hilarious.
/bud light spit take’d
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 8, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Duh, SMU fans!
They gave us a major-league douchebag. But neither compare to Pitt, which gave us…
MARK. MAY.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I remember an EDSBS thread
where they suggested filling the extra hour of GameDay with Lou Holtz reading Shakespeare.
I could not stop laughing.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 9, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a Sylvester the Cat quote.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
dis what Wiki has to say....I guess we're both kind of right.
To emphasize the lisp, as with Daffy’s catchphrase “You’re desthpicable”, Sylvester’s trademark exclamation is “Sufferin’ succotash!”, which is said to be a minced oath of “Suffering Savior”. (Daffy also says “Sufferin’ succotash!” from time to time.)
Skol!
Okay, I don't get this.
I know it’s an $MU logo, but is it here because of what happened in the late 1980s? Come on, those two scenarios are hardly comparable.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 8, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
tOSU should be ousted from the B1G!
Not really, but…
/begin sarcastic rant
I read somewhere that MSU was the worst 11-2 team (as a Spartan, I’d gladly take a deplorable 11 wins any time).
What stuck in my craw most over last year was hearing how my team hadn’t proven anything because MSU did not play that loathsome team from down south. (We did beat that other loathsome team from down south, but it doesn’t count for anything anymore :( )
I’ll concede the point, but I would like to point out the following: Ohio State NEVER plays Ohio State! (No the spring game doesn’t count.) They NEVER play anyone good! They play the rest of the Big Ten… and they all suck!
This is patently unfair! Redacted wins aside, when was the last time tOSU beat anyone good? They’re dragging down the league! We as a conference should end this unholy marriage forthwith!
/end sarcastic rant
/end hate
/end abandonment of reason and decorum
Whew! I feel better now. I’m glad I got that out. Thank goodness for hate threads!
The sideline is always greener at MSU.
I think we can now refer to them as "AN Ohio Statue University"
so they’d be “aOSU”
by Lus Strictum Badgerum on Jul 8, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
did you really create an account just to say that?
at no point did you even attempt to original or funny or even a troll.
i award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
..
If there is any attempt for either contestant to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, I am just gonna snap. Do I make myself clear?
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Jul 8, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAH
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
how about just...
Ohio
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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jul 8, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
How about just
that school in Ohio where all those players sold their rings, hung out with drug dealers, still played in a bowl game, and had their coach lie for them and resign afterward.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Do you like that song "Waterloo" by Abba, or is the name an Iowa thing?
Please say Abba.
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@babaoreally
It is a town in Iowa where I was born, grew up, and am currently residing in.
To be honest, for years I thought the Abba song was “Xanadu”, but with weird pronunciation.
But, if you like weird old songs with the word Waterloo, check out David Bowie’s “Waterloo Sunset.” I just discovered it a few months ago, and I kind of like it.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Abba will reunite one day to write a song about Cedar Falls
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DJK wasn't dealing. His roomate was. DJK was just doing the drugs.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions
OR the drugs did him.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure he wasn't
after all he played for iowa. If he had played for OSU though…
Btw, djk was playing while on drugs, which means that it enhanced his performance….cheaters!
I can not refute that.
I think we have players that have side-stepped the drug tests.
But I’m amazed that you, an OSU fan, are now clamoring for honesty and punishment. I would have liked to have seen that from you about a year ago. Or 5 years ago (Troy Smith). Or 9 years ago (Clarett). Or 12 years ago (Jim O’Brien). Or 25 years ago (Schlichter).
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
this was a major letdown
we know how to let the hate flow and have a good time with it… michigan fans frequently seem to hate in name only. i guess not winning in 2785 days (thanks for the screen grab! it doesn’t bother me at all) will do that to you.
it’s 4:52 and michigan still sucks.
Show them Ohio's here.
Hey.
Michigan officially was invited to a bowl game last year. You officially weren’t.
/Michigan didn’t show up for the game, but…
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Your team still officially lost though.
as they have in 12 of the last 13. Sorry, you still have a big ole loss.
Yep, we lost with eligible players.
It’s pretty rare that a college team beats a professional team of players who got paid (and then had to vacate those wins).
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Not professional: biggy84's ability to win arguments.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not professional:
Being informed of players involved with drug-dealers and extra benefits, and then not letting the compliance department know. And then resigning on Memorial Day.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually that's quite professional, dare I even say "senatorial"
I.e., spend a lot of time and effort covering-up what is, at its base, a rather minor offense; one that, if found out about, would cause a few days discomfort then be forgotten about. Then have the cover-up completely take over, leading to more and more lies that, when finally discovered, force you to resign in disgrace. See e.g. Nixon, Richard; Weiner, Anthony; Ensign, John; Tressel, Jim.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Yes, senatorial.
But not professional. Professionalism and politics aren’t really the same, because professionalism would mean hard work and merit to overcome weakness, whereas current politics seems to be all about minimizing risk and bad publicity.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Professional:
n – a person who engages for his livelihood in some activity also pursued by amateurs
/dictionary’d
/
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pictionary’d
Skol!
Jefferson Starship is bullshit.
I refuse to recognize anything past Jefferson Airplane.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So you're saying all of their music
is vacated as Jefferson Starship or Starship?
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IS THE WORLD ENDING RIGHT NOW? AM I ON DRUGS?
A Michigan fan is passing up on an opportunity to kick another school — a RIVAL, no less! — when they’re down?
I mean, this hate is even lazier than your “You-Say-It’s-Fake-But-We-All-Know-It’s-Real” Hate for MSU a few weeks ago. That takes effort.
that gif just gave me epilepsy
that right, it gave me epilepsy because you can obv catch that.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Pikachu give a bunch Japanese kids epilepsy back in like 1997?
Because of his blinking eyes, I think… or something. So I think it can happen.
I just didn’t expect Stephen Colbert to be the source.
He did.
Porygon got the blame for that, which is kinda unfair considering it was Pikachu’s attack that caused the seizures.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
2004 doesn't count?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't you have to have eligible players for you to have an occasional win?
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Since there's a Cobert gif there,
I’ll say that I’m one of the people who voted for the Colbert/bears option in the poll at the top of this thread.
It seemed topical, what with that poor bastard getting mauled in Yellowstone earlier this week. And, I just watched Grizzly Man for the first time earlier today.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Colbert.
I’m all typos tonight.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't hate Ohio State as much as I hate Michigan.
Maybe that’s because while Michigan put up some really stupid, infuriating wins over Wisconsin early in the decade and the 1990s, Ohio State was NOT getting those stupid, infuriating wins.
Seriously, Michigan-Wisconsin games from 1996 to 2002 make me want to vomit.
Ohio State, I’m sorry to say that you’re outdone as far as earning my hatred. Your rival is better in that regard…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 9:28 PM CDT reply actions
yay everyone hate michigan!
FUCK MICHIGAN!!
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
that was my major at osu
jk, BIZNESS
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jul 8, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I respect the hell out of Wisconsin
They have been the toughest out in the Tressel era for OSU, hands down.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
The 2006 game was the last time I truly and purely hated Ohio State. Because it was the last time my UM guys were worthy.
Since 2007, what’s the point of hating OSU? We had a hard time with Indiana! We couldn’t beat the Little Sisters of the Poor’s little sister, Appy State.
But hey, the band’s good.
For nearly four years, Michigan football has been entirely irrelevant, except for two delicious bright spots: the beatdown of Tebow/Florida, and of course the Great Unlikely Comeback against Wisconsin, done with what for all intents and purposes was a Pop Warner team wearing Michigan uniforms.
But I mean, celebrating a win over Wiscy, a team that when I was at UM was a guaranteed and not so entertaining victory? Close games against Indiana? Losing 3 to Michigan f’ing State?
No. It’s hard to get my hate on for OSU when our biggest rival is probably Purdue. It’s like running into your ex wife as you’re being escorted out of your office by security with a cardboard box with all of your pitiful stuff in it.
Maybe this year Michigan will field a team that can fuel a little hate. But that remains to be seen.
This is utterly disappointing. First there was the “Meh” post of last year, which is at least condescending enough to pass for some form of hate. Now, when the number of things to hate about Ohio State has grown to levels unsurpassed in any recent history… we get a “Yep, everyone hates Ohio state now, feel free to hate amongst yourselves” post? Ohio State has beaten Michigan how many years in a row now? And you can’t muster up any of that anger, frustration and bitterness, since you now know they haven’t been doing it on the up and up? I could write 3000 words of hate on Boise State from a TCU fan perspective effortlessly and we’ve only played them three times. This is the rivalry! Get Maize and Brew Dave over here, one of the Wolverine Liberation Army guys or let a Penn State blogger write this post next year and get some quality hate for the most easy to despise team in the B1G.
You’re right, of course. The ancient Egyptians and Romans hired professional mourners. Maybe we need some professional haters.
But what we REALLY need is a good, solid football team. I hope we have one soon.
Professional haters?
You mean iowa fans right? They more than qualify with their whole Mandlebaum’s on Seinfeld routines.
You rang?
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 8, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather be on Seinfeld than on
like OSU.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
You would rather have 7 national titles too!
But sadly you have a team that is 9th all time in wins in the B1G. You are free to come to Columbus and look at all the championships, but you can’t touch or claim them.
Sad for who Iowa's B1G win total? Hawk fans aren't swayed by this stat.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I am honestly happier to be a fan of a team with less wins and one
minor national title. Because my team is actually an amateur team, not a professional team masquerading amateurs.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Man, I thought my Michigan piece qualified
as some serious hate. Damn you people and your short memories!!
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Yea that was legit. Unabomber styleee
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it did.
As far as hate pieces go. But we all know what happens on the field creates hate, not what happens on the internet, so…
Haha! They must still miss RichRod.
I’ve tailgated with and around UM fans pre Iowa Football 4 times in the last decade, twice each place. There was always a thick aura of dismissive asshole abound. Then I went to Annus Arborosis this past year and they were deflated and humbled, their swagger gone.
As for OSU? I hate Jim Tressel simply for two related reasons. 1. Wearing camouflage hat like a soldier 2. Resigning in disgrace on Memorial Day. I have never been enlisted; uncles on both side, maternal grandfather were. Going on basically a decade of two official wars now I get really irritated when anyone tries to equate ANY civilian role to that which protects the frontline of America’s freedom and greatness. Maybe I’m connecting dots never meant to be connected. Or Jim Tressel is a fraudvest fuckface who played NCAAFB like a skilled criminal right to the end.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 8, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, the hat didn't bother me
I saw it more as a sign of respect to the military than anything else.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
The hat combined with disgraced resignation on Memorial Day in hindsight is what fries my chicken.
No one has once stated that Jim Tressel is stupid, far from it. Matter of fact it’d be quite accurate to state ‘calculated’ as one of his top strengths. Knowing what we now know, via OSU, that Jim Tressel was the only source of rule breaking in the entire OSU football program I find it hard to believe that he didnt know long before May 31st his goose was cooked. Resigning on that particular day was a cheap and desperate ploy. Just my opinion.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
“What fries my chicken” is a great saying.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jul 9, 2011 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes it is indeed, thank you. Sadly, Jim Tressel fried Iowa's chicken
forever and just now is found to be a huge cheater. Really cheapens the image of B1G football. Threw in a ‘goose was cooked’ to bookend the poultry references.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that "fries my chicken" is being used incorrectly
I would be happy that my chicken is getting fried. That way it will taste good when I eat it.
Using fries my chicken this way really gets my goat.
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Your goat has nothing to do with my chicken, or this saying.
Chickens are as chickens do. Maybe sometime someone fries your chicken and then this saying rings true in a whole new way.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Opinion of gossip crazy fanbase
of iowa is funny. Just because you heard it on espn doesn’t mean it’s true. You all are sad that your snarky gossip fest isn’t translating into reality.
Dude if anyone around here is espn-centric it would be you. Where did I reference ESPN-only gossip?
Where?
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions
You and your iowa bretheren
continuing to hurl accusations like a gossipy kid. The “your team is a bunch of cheaters” hurled by adults who desperately want to believe every little thing they hear in the media as a weapon to assail another. It was expected in middle school.
If Jim Tressel wasn't a cheater why isnt he coaching games at the Shoe this fall?
oh yeah. Jim Tressel is a cheater and was forced to resign. Was that an espn-only story??? OSU just said they cleaned house, the CheatVest is gone! Please NCAA don’t further sanction us!!! We ARE repeat offenders but we deserve no further punishment than what we have imposed ourselves.
… bet that Kool-Tress-Aid was tasty all those years.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions
If you continue to insult
at least get your facts right. Check the actual repeat offender reply from OSU. Of course, Tress made a mistake, that means he is the most evil person ever. That means everyone who screws up should be considered evil and without integrity.
""The university concedes it is a "repeat violator" ""
Get your facts straight:
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions
There you go believing the media again
Here is the actual document. But no one believes the media right? Please refer to 3-B-a
http://www.osu.edu/news/ncaadocs/pdf/NOA_Response.pdf
Derp Derp Media Derp. Derp!!!! Media! Derp Derp.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you serious?
OSU admits it is a repeat offender. What it is arguing is that it should not have repeat offender penalties imposed. This is analogous to a plea deal in a criminal case: you admit that you did the crime and in return you’ll get a lesser punishment. Now, it remains to be seen whether the NCAA agrees, but one thing you can definitively say, it is that OSU is a “repeat offender” because the school itself says it is.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Please continue to ignore
the post below that clearly states that they refute the repeat violator claims. Please only take one part of the response and run with it. Ignore the fact that they acknowledge they are SUBJECT to, then clearly states they disagree with that assertion. They hardly admit they are a repeat offender. In fact they refute it. Nice try though.
You have absolutely no reading comprehension skills
Seriously. OSU states that it is a repeat offender, what it argues is that it should not be subject to repeat offender sanctions. Those are two completely separate issues and if you can’t see the difference, you really have no right posting as you are simply unwilling to be bound the reality in which we all live.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
A loose analogy
If you kill someone, you’re a killer. If you argue that you did it under mitigating circumstances, you’re still a killer. You’re not arguing that you didn’t kill someone. You’re just asking the court to acquit or find you guilty of manslaughter instead of murder.
Lett's see if you follow this
Judge says to plaintiff- " do you understand the charges against you?"
Plaintiff to judge- " yes your honor i do".
Hoya steps in and says “see! He admitted he was guilty”
The plaintiff then tells the judge that he pleads NOT Guilty.
Got it?
What are you talking about?
God I miss the brief time you decided to not post here.
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i. The violations in this case are not similar to those in 2006 – The 2006 case primarily involved men’s basketball and recruiting violations involving two international student-athletes. The case also included extra benefits, academic fraud, a lack of monitoring, and unethical conduct for involvement in violations. The violations in this case are not similar to those violations from the 2006 case;
ii. This case involves the football program only;
I-6
iii. The vast majority of the significant violations in the 2006 case were the result of actions that occurred as far back as 1998 – The 2006 case involved violations that occurred almost 13 years ago; and
iv. (See also the specific items listed below under mitigating circumstances).
4. Mitigating Circumstances – The institution notes the following mitigating circumstances in this case:
i. The institution discovered and promptly self-reported these violations and took decisive action against a very successful coach in a very popular sport in a very short period of time. The NCAA was consulted immediately after the institution’s president was notified, and the University
As a result, the insitution agrees it is subject to the repeat violator legislation.
It is right there. You linked it officially. Nice work!
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions
However you want to spin it
they did not agree with repeat offenders. feel free to read the above. The media of course supplied a snippet and you hang your hat on that.
I'm not sure who believes more in media conspiracy.
Biggy, hardcore Bill Clinton supporters, or Fox News Channel.
/I’m not trying to broach politics here.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions
If you don't understand the difference
between a media snippet and an actual document, then it explains your entire reasoning.
If you don't understand
that you are standing underneath an avalanche of dishonesty at OSU, then that explains your entire reasoning.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:54 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I was thinking Chazz
Parentheses are me, the rest is from Biggy’s summer research project appropriately titled: If We Did It
/OJ’d
The case also included extra benefits(check – tats/etc[depending on the findings by the NCAA]), academic fraud(no check), a lack of monitoring(CHECK – JT; Gene Smith; compliance dept), and unethical conduct for involvement in violations(this is open to interpretation so I suppose I will leave this not checked……SIKE!! Having the leader of your entire football team lieing to the NCAA is a big bad no no…sure, JT’s not there anymore, but as much as you hate it, he represents a University of Ohio State at the hearing.)
Skol!
Let's just solve this with an easy statement.
FUCK CLEMSON!
Wait, what?!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 9, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Cheaters cheat. That's what cheaters do, they cheat.
Literacy and comprehension are required: I quoted directly from The Ohio State University 66 page release. OSU knows it qualifies as a repeat offender. Repeat cheater. But OSU doesn’t want to pay the repeat offender price. What cheater wants to pay the price? None. That’s why they cheat in the first place.
Still need help understanding all of this??
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Qualify
does not mean they are agreeing with it like you have stated repeatedly. I qualify to be an iowa fan, but i’m not. See what i mean? (qualify as an iowa fan is a stretch too.)
I get your point.
OSU knows they can face repeat violator sanctions but don’t want to. How many times does a criminal request the maximum punishment? Of course OSU is positioning Tressel’s cover up as an isolated incident, all the while they know it’s not; at least by standards of the NCAA which I understand you don’t agree with. But they aren’t changing.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you know
that of all the coaches found guilty of violation 10.1 (Tressel’s violation) have never resulted in the university losing scholarships? This includes former Cal coach Bozeman, who admitted to paying $30,000 to one of his players.
Bozeman got fired or resigned, IIRC.
If the NCAA does attribute most of the mis-deeds to Tressel, there is a possibility that OSU doesn’t get slapped too bad.
And, (yes, Biggy, I know you don’t agree with this next part, so I don’t really require another debate about it), that is why so many of us that believe OSU’s program is rather dirty, will be rather angry if they get off pretty much scott-free again. Because obviously, most OSU fans aren’t manning up and admitting that last year is vacated.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Vacated wins are stupid
They’re pointless. They are less than a slap on the wrist. They are hilarious. Does anyone find USC any less of a desirably location to attend class play football? No, recruits still want to go there, but postseason bowl bans? I think they do the trick. OSU’s already having issues keeping verbals because of the potential for postseason bans. If they actually get it, they could be set back drastically.
Skol!
Manning up
Is that even a word? I will readily admit that last season is absolutely vacated. I will absolutely admit that Coach Tressel lied and covered it up.
I found it very interesting that in cases where the coach violated 10.1 and did so without the knowledge of the administration that LOIC was not instituted. I wasn’t trying to argue or stir anything up. I simply found that interesting and thought someone else might too.
Quote the OSU response
Section 3(a)
As noted above, the institution acknowledges that the self-reported violations in this response are major. On March 10, 2006, the Division I Committee on Infractions issued an infractions report to the University that primarily involved the men’s basketball program. The report indicated that the University was subject to the provisions of NCAA Bylaw 19.5.2.3 for a five-year period, beginning on March 10, 2006. The major violations involving institutional responsibility in this case occurred in April of 2010 when Tressel should have reported that possible NCAA violations likely were committed, and he did not report such information to the appropriate institutional officials. As a result, the institution agrees it is subject to the repeat violator legislation.(emphasis added
But no, you’re right, we’re all just making assumptions from horribly biased sources like ESPN and OSU’s official response.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Ok, so maybe the official response said that
but it was re-reported by the media, and has therefore become false.
/biggy’d
Let me fix that for you:
Just because you heard it on espn excuses or stories from Tressel, or one of the OSU players doesn’t mean it’s true. You all are sad that your snarky gossip fest OSU’s wins from last year aren’t isn’t translating into reality.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Reality isn't the LOIC
and sever scholarship loss you promised. You swore that all the accusations would lead to LOIC, only to find out they didn’t.
I'm not sure I ever said those things.
I did hope the NCAA would grow enough balls to punish OSU for their blatent cheating.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I will be more than happy to find it for you
to jog your most recent memory loss. Also i will find where you claimed all the accusations as your proof.
Feel free.
I honestly don’t think I ever said “lack of institutional control” or “LOIC.”
I’m waiting to hear that from the NCAA (about OSU).
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Not gonig to hear anything from OSU
That bump they hit on the way to the NCAA meetings on Aug14 was Jim Tressel. But they certainly want to honor such a great man by allowing him to “retire” as opposed to kicking his ass out the door like they should have done. Pete Carroll 2.0.
OSU: The problems are gone now. The remaining players are suspended appropriately. Can we just move on….pretty pretty pretty please.
NCAA: ??? Ball or No-Balls…we will find out Aug14th
Skol!
I can see letting Tressel retire as opposed to resign
Yes, he cheated and played ineligible football players, and he really dragged the University’s name through the mud.
BUT…
He didn’t commit a felony, or even a misdemeanor. If you consider his entire body of work, the amount of money he has donated to charity over the years, and how he gave back to the community, I am okay with giving him a retirement.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
But for all the good that he did
He’s at the dead center of the worst scandal in OSU’s existence(that i know of). How can that guy still be given even a little bit of praise walking out the door. Not to mention the fans that showed up on his doorstep to show the love they have for him. What is that? As an OSU fan, don’t you feel cheated by him as well? Do you even so much as respect the man? Maybe he did truly care for the guys on the team and wanted to “protect” them and some people can see that as noble, but the man protected them to WIN.
Skol!
I don't think he was praised walking out the door
He resigned in disgrace. I do feel cheated, and I’m angry at him because he made such a colossally stupid decision. It sucks for the 95% of the team that didn’t do anything wrong, because they’re going to have to pay for his sins, and the accomplishments of the seniors who left are forever tarnished.
But is it something you persecute a guy over forever and ever? We’re a forgiving society, and guys that have done much, much worse than Tressel were given retirements, pensions, whatever. I would’ve still made him pay the fine, but I’m not into kicking someone over and over. He broke NCAA rules and he’s paid for it with his job…his multi million dollar a year job, and he won’t be getting another one, probably ever.
Let him retire, get his pension, and move on. There’s football to play, and a program that needs to heal. This is part of that healing.
"Lord I pray for the eyes of an eagle, the heart of a lion and the balls of a combat helicopter pilot."
Two things
1. He didn’t resign, he was fired. Or, at least, that’s OSU’s story this week. It’s hard to garner much sympathy for the man or the institution when there has been a constantly shifting rationale for how the approach things, depending on what is most convenient that day. In Tressel, we’ve gone from OSU saying “I hope he doesn’t fire me” to “Coach Tressel has resigned because he believes it to be in the best interest of the school” to “It was a mutual decision” to where we are today: he was fired. And that’s on the administration, they have said/done only that which supported whatever the daily talking point was.
2. You don’t get to heal until you’ve paid the penalty. To date, OSU hasn’t. I think it is largely unfair that OSU will be made to pay for what appears to be the actions of a single person, but that is the nature of the beast. I’ve gotten quite sick of a number of OSU fans (and I’m not saying you are necessarily one of these) bitching and moaning about how we should all just move on because now we’re just dredging up “old shit”, you know, allegations from all of two months ago. Despite these fans’ insistence that OSU has already paid the price and we should move along, the fact is there has been no punishment yet at all. Until there is, any calls to move along or, no offense, start the healing process are wildly premature.
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by HoyaGoon on Jul 9, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair...
I believe Ted is talking about the university healing, not us bloggeroids. But I still disagree with the “let him bow out gracefully” or whatever you would call that kind of treatment. yes, we are a forgiving society, but IMO: #1) He only just recently started “feeling sorry” so if I’m an OSU fan, I’m not buying too much “sorry stock”. After all the lies, do you think the simple “now I’m sorry” should hold up? It doesn’t to me. Not much else you can do TO the guy, but it’s not like he’s really “taking the fall” for the program. It’s his fault. When he came out and admitted it, the University should have come out and stated their disappointment a little clearer. #2) He should DEFINITELY be paying the fine. Even the biggest Dennis Green hater thinks he got off the hook for that one.
But again, just an outsider looking in
Skol!
I think he should be water boarded!
After all he did make a mistake. One mistake makes him the world’s biggest scumbag ever! How dare the fans understand he is human! Those fans should forget every single thing he ever accomplished for protecting his players and handling it in house. Where is John Walsh when we need him? His only hope in life is that rival fanbases get their just apology. Oh the horror!!!!
Not enough references to the "Goofers"
And, as we saw on one of the threads here yesterday, PantherHawk is alive, well and back to posting
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Iowa's multiple
arrest record certainly enhances the B1G image. Nothing like having your all-time leading wr having a drug pad. Where was your compliance dept after the first 10 arrests in such a small amount of time? That’s right, you Mandlebaums love casting stones, but when your hypocrisy is pointed out it is deflection. You all amuse me.
I will spell it out again. Although I expect it to have no real impact.
the indiscretions of major college football coaches will always carry a heavier weight than the indiscretions of the 19-22 year olds they coach.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Which is it today?
In the past it has been that OSU is going to be hammered by the ncaa for cars, drugs, 20+ players involved, LOIC is a certainty and so on. So i guess now it’s the new? revelation that Tressel lied blah, blah, blah.
Today is Grandmaster Derp
awarded to Biggy – who can’t argue but really tries hard!!!
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Trying to
figure out the daily bulletin point to allege now for you. You keep changing your bulletin point for degrading OSU.
I'm trying to de-derp this post.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions
No, that has been YOUR assertion of what others' are arguing
I can’t speak for everyone here, but I’m willing to bet that about 95% of the non-OSU fans on OTE think that the punishment OSU receives will be almost entirely resulting from Tressel’s repeated lying to the NCAA, and the tattoos are just a little seasoning on top. There were plenty of other allegations made in the media, that if substantiated would have spelled DOOM for OSU, but those have not, to date, been proven or substantiated and thus don’t look like they will impact OSU.
Let me be perfectly clear, since you seem completely incapable of understanding anything other than the simplest sentences: I think OSU will get fucksawed by the NCAA because Jim Tressel lied to the the NCAA on multiple occasions in an attempt to conceal the potential ineligibility of his players.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
The difference is that
Iowa fans admit their players aren’t perfect, but recognize that their coach does make the players pay some consequences.
OSU fans think their players/coaches are perfect, and bury their head in the sand so that their players/coaches just get paid, and don’t face consequences until much later on (which makes them end up having to vacate wins).
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure you derp?
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions
On the one hand
I think this is a childish (and annoying) response to someone.
On the other hand, biggy has no interest other than throwing up red herrings and distractions to any and all discussions of OSU so that I think it is warranted. There is no point in actually trying to engage him (yet I do, because I love the feel of brick on my forehead as I repeatedly bash it against the wall, apparently), so your tactic may actually be the saner response.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Not my most sophisticated moment.
But gotta know your audience.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
When I picture biggy
he is a female version of Dobby from Harry Potter.
And I’m actually not kidding.
by OctaShields on Jul 9, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I picture an Insane Clown Posse fan
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That's how I picture every Michigan fan
that or Kid Rock
by OctaShields on Jul 9, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Haha
bawitabdaRichRod!
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Internet tough guy!
You want to personally attack me? You want to refer to me as a woman? If you want to debate B1G sports i’m all for it. If you want to cast personal attacks, i believe that is uncalled for. If sitting behind a computer and personally insulting someone while maturely calling someone else a bunch of cheaters makes you feel like a big man, then feel superior. Internet tough guy!
I'm not personally attacking you
unless what I said is true. I’m just saying that’s how I picture you. Not knowing what anyone looks like in real life, I picture different posters in different and sometimes hilarious ways.
I’m not saying you actually are a female goblin. For instance, I picture Graham as Michael Moore eating cheetos. I picture Chazz as a less-Italian Chaz Palmintieri wearing overalls with a piece of straw in his mouth (sorry, Iowans, I can’t help the stereotypes of my imagination).
I’m sure you’re nothing like Dobby, nor do I think you’re actually a woman.
You absolutely are!
Picturing me as a female version of Dobby and reaffirming by saying you’re not kidding is exactly a personal attack. You were not commenting on my statements, you were personally attacking me. I believe that is over the line. You don’t know me, therefore i don’t think it right to attack me.
I don't really agree with your definition of personal attack
Really, it’s just a kind of non sequitur, completely unrelated to anything that was being discussed and not directed at you. I was not kidding about what I picture, which is honestly probably more of an indictment of the way my mind works than of anything you do.
But I don’t mean to offend. Flag the comment and see if a moderator will take it down if you’re offended.
This blog shit is not worth it. I need to stick to my own forum.
by biggy84 on Jul 9, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Sadly,
I’m probably more like the cheetoh-eating Michael Moore, only no fame or fortune (or film-making skill).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Back to the arrest record
At what point does the University/coaching staff/compliance department become involved in any of this? Oh, that’s right, when they find out about it.
Adam Robinson - Linky
DJK – Linky
"He’ll not play again here," Ferentz said
Coach Kirk Ferentz acted quickly when news of Johnson-Koulianos’ arrest reached him.
"I am highly disappointed to learn of the charges," Ferentz said in a statement. "Derrell has been suspended from all team activities."
And what the University of Iowa still thinks of the two – Linky
Skol!
by DM_Purp on Jul 9, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Every University has student athletes who get in trouble
Some cover it up to the extent possible. Some give a slap on the wrist and get the player back in ASAP, or allow the player to play “pending a judicial decision” on their case (innocent until proven guilty and all that). Some suspend the player for what they feel is a fair amount of time based upon the severity of the incident. Some cut ties with the player entirely.
Personally, I think it should be handled case-by-case. If it’s truly off-field indiscretion and has nothing to do with the team or NCAA rules, it’s a matter of discipline for the coach to decide.
If you’re at BYU and break the honor code, you are suspended for the year.
If you’re at most Big Ten schools and get a DUI, assault, or some other non-major felony charge, you generally get suspended for a few games or the rest of the current season.
If you’re at an SEC school, the police either let you go with a warning or the coach refuses to suspend the player while the case is pending, so you can be on the field for the yeehaw Iron Bowl.
Basically, minor to medium-level legal trouble is in the province of the school and the coach. How the coach deals with this type of problem is important, like it would be for failure to show up to practice on time or any time of “conduct detrimental to the team,” but it doesn’t implicate any type of cheating or failure to comply with NCAA rules. It’s much different than something within the purview of the NCAA rules, like getting impermissible benefits or being academically ineligible, which might not even be illegal.
How about nafter the first 10 arrests
they do something about it? Do you even have a compliance dept? After 30 arrests you hire someone to do help and you still have multiple arrests. No one on that team knew that your star wr lived in a drug house? Your monitoring was so great huh? Well at least you kicked them off after the fact. Kudo’s.
Check out what Tress did
when Navy came to the ’Shoe a few years ago. It was very classy. Tress also went overseas and held coaching clinics and visited troops with a few other coaches. He truly admired the armed forces. I am a veteran and had no problem with it. If you read the report today, Tress had no say into when he was forced into retirement.
Tressy did have a choice when to retire. He lied and cheated, that was his choice.
Also thank you, Ted and everyone who has served and fought to keep the USA awesome. Thanks much.
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Let me fix that for you.
Tress also went overseas and held coaching clinics and visited troops with a few other coaches.
Well, people on the lam do often go overseas.
He truly admired the armed forces.
I would too. The armed forces are full of people with actual strength and courage to take a stand against, say, drug dealers and the 21-year-olds who are hanging out with them.
Tress had no say into when he was forced into retirement.
Correct. Terrell Pryor and friends made that decision for him.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Aww Snap!
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Trying a Provelt copycat huh?
The difference is he actually bases his words on facts, not snarky opinions. Another instance of an iowa fan wanting to be like an OSU fan.
Awww double snap for extra simplification
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by BentNotBroken on Jul 9, 2011 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I have repeatedly and honestly said
that I’d rather continue to be an Iowa fan than an OSU fan. Therefore, I am not “wanting to be an OSU fan.”
If I was “wanting to be an OSU fan”, I’d probably be on EBay right now trying to buy rings, trophies, or autographed photos or jerseys. Because there are a lot of those available for OSU.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jul 9, 2011 2:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait...
are you asserting that ProveIt invented the block quote, followed by commentary format of commenting?
Having made the mistake in trying to engage Provelt
I can say that he and biggy share one rhetorical trait: argument by assertion alone. Hard as it is to believe, but I actually think biggy is a better poster, because there is literally nothing redeeming or worthwhile about Provelt’s posts: he argues by assertion, accuses anyone who disagrees as “exaggeration, red herrings or decption”, lies repeatedly and outright, has no idea what the words he uses means and constantly recycles the same terrible bon mots, all the while congratulating himself for being so clever.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I'm just saying
this style of skewering others comments was around even before firejoemorgan.
That’d be like me accusing Derek Jeter of trying to imitate Mike McKenry (who just hit his first MLB homer last night for the Pirates) by hitting a home run today.
Oh absolutely
that particular style of internet debate has been around since nearly the fist blog. The phrase I first heard to describe it was “”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisking" target="new">fisking" It is certainly not new or unique to Provelt; and, in his case, is employed poorly as he never actually responds or refutes the points he’s highlighting, seeming to believe that merely asserting that someone else is wrong has proven the point.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Dude, that's just uncalled for
Disagreement is fine, sometimes it will get a bit heated between people. But to compare someone to provelt is nothing but willful, malicious defamation. And it has no place in polite society.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Ohio State fans are so self-loathing
that they don’t need any outside source of hate.
Still, the ball was teed up, the fairway was wide, wide open and there wasn’t a hint of wind. Sometimes you just gotta rip it.
Why is RichRod still unemployed after this?
He defeated OSU “post-humous!” and “post-humorous!”
by Bush League All Star on Jul 9, 2011 3:35 PM CDT reply actions
This was a giant clusterfuck.
“OSU isn’t going to get hammered, I know it!”
“Nuh Uhh, OSU is going to get hammered, I know it!”
“You’re dumb!”
“No, you’re dumb!”
Everyone’s dumb for thinking they know what will happen. Rampant speculation is fun, but speculating and acting like you know what’s going to happen, and calling someone dumb for doing the same thing with the opposite idea of what’s going to happen—when no one knows what’s going to happen—is just awful. 52 days can’t come soon enough.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
by Jon Ross on Jul 10, 2011 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I don't even read anything that mentions OSU anymore or I'll hang myself.
If I don’t read about it, it never happened. Right? RIGHT??
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
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