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2011 Closing Arguments - Michigan

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"So this is a Harvard bar? I thought there'd be equations on the wall and shit." - Good Will Hunting

I. Case History/Opening Statement

A. Case History

Hey guys, remember Coach Rodriguez? The Coach Rod who made a very impressive showing on OTE, wearing shorts? Well 2010 was everything critics of Coach Rod could ever have wanted to see. An explosive offense, Top 10 nationally in many categories...derailed thanks to injuries and overuse of Rocket Robinson. A wounded and out of place defense...trying to play a scheme that was just the worst.damn.thing.I.have.ever.seen. So let's answer some fun questions:

Who's the new coach? Brady Hoke

Who's the new defensive coach? Greg Mattison.

What kind of offense will Michigan be running? Some kind of pro-form, with Robinson under center much more than last year. Similar blocking schemes (the O-Line will be a strength and have mentioned they are comfortable in the new offense), except the coaches would like the offense to stay on the field much longer...

What does the UM fanbase think? Tired of defensive/special teams/player development/PR ineptitude, Michigan turned (or was forced to turn) to Hoke, who has impressed everyone with his recruitment of Midwest-located defensive players and his good ol' football coach attitude. Let's put it this way - Michigan football, for years and years and years, was built on superior athletes who played tough and smart. Were Michigan teams too conservative sometimes? Yes, but that's better than being flashy and undersized and injury-prone like 2010.

B. Opening Statement

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, Michigan is returning to its roots. The *Maize and Blue have been stockpiling defensive recruits, the offense will pound downhill, and the 4-3 formation that led the nation in run defense in 2005 returns. Unfortunately, times done changed. All things that used to make Michigan Michigan are pretty much no longer advantages. Stable coaching staffs? Look at Iowa, look at "stoic" Dantonio. Big tough defenses? Nebraska, Ohio State...So there is much work to be done.

Star-divide

II. Discovery

A. What We Can Learn From Pop Culture


Good Will Hunting is all about expectations. Will expects Skylar to dump him because he's got no money.Gerald Lambeau expects everyone to focus on career success, just like he does. Chuckie expects Harvard bars to have equations on the wall and shit.

Michigan football is all about expectations. Changed expectations. Where a top 15 national finish used to be the normal expectation, now the fanbase just wants to see improvement across the board, any kind of improvement. Where the fans expected to see veteran starters pepper the defensive rotation, now we just hope for a return to solid form tackling. (True story: I went to see Miami upset NIU at Ford Field last year and after a quarter, I turned to Jon and said: "Something's different here, I can't tell what it is." I figured it during the 2nd quarter - the Miami defenders actually were in position to make plays and tackled the ballcarrier. Such was the difference of watching Miami and Michigan in 2010.


III. Unemotional Plea

Michigan in 2010

Offense: B+...broke down late in the season, over utilized Denard, but still put up huge numbers

Defense: F-...out of position, soft, injured, bad schemes, linebackers who couldn't tackle

Special Teams: WE CAN"T MAKE FIELD GOALS!!!$$@$R@

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Michigan in 2011

"Let us not forget" ...

...that Denard Robinson is still arguably the most dangerous player in the B1G. Being in a pro-form doesn't mute him.

...that all the Michigan defenders are experienced and put on substantial amounts of weight. Mike Martin should be All-B1G and Kenny Demens is ready to be the next Jarrett Irons/Sam Sword (i.e. good sized solid as shit Michigan linebacker).

...that Greg Mattison's 4-3 cannot, just cannot be worse than whatever Greg Robinson was trying to do. The 3-3-5 linemen were being blown off the ball and moved easily in 2010. At least this year we'll have four people on the line on every snap.

...that the schedule isn't exactly manageable. 4 ranked opponents, Iowa and NW away, an early must-win against SDSU. It ain't cake.

IV. Verdict

A. The Staff Calls the Games

Woa baby. The OTE staff is all over the place. 9-3...to 5-7...for a final prediction of 7-5 (4-4).

Basically everyone expects losses to Iowa, ND, and Nebraska. The surprise? Half of our writers see a win over the Buckeyes. Is Michigan the Big Ten's wildest card? Probably. No one quite believes in that defense, but hey, it is Michigan after all.

Bama H: 9-3 (6-2) losses to ND, Nebby, tOSU

Ted: 5-7 (3-5) Losses to Illinois, MSU, Iowa, Nebraska, OSU

Jon: 7-5 (4-4) losses to ND, MSU, Iowa, Illinois, and Nebraska

Chadnudj: 5-7 (2-6): losses to ND, NW, MSU, Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, and OSU

MSULax: 5-7 (2-6) losses to MSU, Iowa, Ill, NU-L, NU, OSU, ND

Ricardo: 9-3 (5-3) losses to @Michigan State, @Iowa, Nebraska

Paterno: 6-6 (3-5) losses to ND, NW, Iowa, Illinois, Nebraska, OSU

Kennard H: 5-7 (3-5) losses to ND, SDSU, @NW, @MSU, @Iowa, @ILL, NEB

Hil Lee: 8-4 (4-4 conf) losses to NW, MSU, Iowa, Nebraska

Graham: 6-6 (3-5) losses to  ND, NW, MSU, Iowa, Neb, OSU

JDMill: 8-4 (5-3) losses to ND, Iowa, Neb, OhioSt

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by BentNotBroken on Aug 24, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 26, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

plus hoke, plus braska, minus Tressel. /head 'slpodes

and jNWhostrong?? wtf? Go Hawks!! Cases Closed!

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by BentNotBroken on Aug 24, 2011 12:07 AM CDT reply actions  

I loved the Community bit making fun of Good Will Hunting

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by babaoreally on Aug 24, 2011 2:18 AM CDT reply actions  

DR might not be muted in the pro set offense

but it does seem like the qunitessenntial ‘square peg, round hole’. DR is still a dynamic QB, though, and if he can get comfortable being a pass first guy when he drops back in the pocket, he’ll do well.

If he can’t, UM’s offense will get crushed against quality defenses, much like their Spread did last year.

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by Ted Glover on Aug 24, 2011 7:14 AM CDT reply actions  

The other necessity

is a reliable runner in the backfield NOT named Robinson. So far, the staff isn’t naming anyone which I think is either really good or really bad. The offense needs another threat (not Threet) back there to keep defenses honest.

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna say

8-4…. They return 20 starters… That’s huge in college football. Losses to NW, Nebraska, PSU, and OSU.

by TheHumbleBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 7:27 AM CDT reply actions  

8-4

and I’ll be ecstatic. And I can handle losses to those teams (minus NW) as long as they’re SOMEwhat competitive, as in no longer foregone conclusions that they’ve been over the last three years. Yeeeeesh….

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is my thought actually

However, I remember thinking we’d be excellent post Billy C under the same premise. Then we went 9-4. So who knows, right? Hoke/Mattison seems like the right equation, but talent will be the key. So long as the Huskers beat them, I’m fine with them doing whatever it is they do (I just don’t see it happening).

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by KennardHusker on Aug 24, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hoke's ability to be fat and arrogant shouldn't mask his inability to win college football games as a head coach.

He was a mediocre hire at the time, and his failure to differentiate between the Buckeyes and the Bobcats in his sweaty, hot-aired filled rants does nothing to dispel that notion.

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by Jon Ross on Aug 24, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I love that the Ohio thing bothers Buckeye fans

I’m not wild about Hoke’s style and not convinced that he’ll bring Michigan back, but the fact that he gets under OSU fans’ skin makes me so happy.

I think I still have a green and white “Ohio: The State University” t-shirt somewhere. Gotta find that.

by TDozer on Aug 24, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does it make "us" mad?

Not me. I just think it shows his ignorance.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe willful ignorance

either he doesn’t know the difference, or he thinks that this ploy reignites the rivalry somehow.

what he should be aware of is that no matter what he says or does, we will hate him as deeply and truly as possible with every part of our being. true hate, even if he were to cure all diseases and fix the debt problems in the US. HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE. all damn day.

Fuck Gravy Hoke, and all of his chins.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

Willful ignorance…maybe more like willful disdain. It was “ground breaking” when Woody coined the term “That school up North” and everyone thought it was funny, but we didn’t once think he simply forgot the name.

It is a ploy, I agree with you there, but more of one for internal reasons…to get the players to focus on The Game…an art that was lost in the previous administration. It isn’t just like every other game, like RRod was an advocate of.

And fuck Ohio.

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

the bobcats can suck it ;)

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

No...

Just displaying my willful ignorance. I meant “That School Down South…”

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

What did Clemson ever do to you?

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Aug 24, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'd be better off calling us Columbus, or that team in red.

Ohio is an actual school, with D-1 football! Helmets and everything!

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"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
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by Jon Ross on Aug 24, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, to be fair

i think do share helmets. only own 11.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't think that'll work

for fear of confusing Columbus with the hockey team…haha.

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

not that hoke is referring to history, but this might be interesting for you to see

On the scoreboards at ohiostadium, they used to write “Ohio”, so it might be your own ignorance. =)

by snoopblue on Aug 24, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

1950's technology

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 25, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

It doesnt bother anyone lol.

It makes him look like an ass. I plan on wearing Bobcat gear to the game, just for fun.

"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
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by Jon Ross on Aug 24, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't bother me

It’s amateurish and unoriginal, because it’s just a take off of when Woody coined ‘that school up north’.

It makes him come off as an overgrown frat boy, which for me, tends to detract from the fact that he really seems to know what the hell he’s doing.

If you want to bother me, beat Ohio State.

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by Ted Glover on Aug 25, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

but DOES he know what he's doing?

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 25, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think so

but as they say, that’s why they play the games.

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by Ted Glover on Aug 25, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

So true...

Seeing as how UM hasn’t really PLAYED a game against Ohio (St) since 2006. Everything since has been a scrimmage. (BTW, thanks to JT for taking his foot off the gas two years ago…)

by GoWings2008 on Aug 26, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um, touche?

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by KennardHusker on Aug 24, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's funny

I only the read the words fat and arrogant and immediately thought of Brady Hoke. This calls for a meme. Anyone got any great ideas?

by mikjones24 on Aug 24, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just never address him as "Brady Hoke."

Just say “Fat and Arrogant” and we’ll know exactly who you’re talking about.

i.e.
“I saw Shoelace with Fat and Arrogant at KFC today”
“Again?”
“Yep, and it’s still monday”

by Fake Pelini on Aug 24, 2011 11:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oops

Accidentally hit the post button too soon. Let’s try this again:

I think the WLA summed it up perfectly:

by GCS on Aug 24, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

this is funny.

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans

by Jon Ross on Aug 24, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blue & Gold??? Huh???

Can you get someone other than a poser to post about our Wolverines?! Not a living Wolverine fan calls them the Blue and Gold! That’s the moniker for the Fighting Icons from South Bend.

by Maize&BlueShoe on Aug 24, 2011 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Amen

I noticed that too…glad someone else picked up on it.

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah ha!

There are the angry people. I shall fix; I had high school on the brain.

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by Graham Filler on Aug 24, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Ted

Michigan doesn’t play PSU this year, but thanks for the win anyway…I’m certain we would take Michigan behind the woodshed again this year.

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by RWReese on Aug 24, 2011 8:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Should've read OSU

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by Ted Glover on Aug 24, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really interested to see how Borges utilizes Denard

It doesn’t seem like the greatest fit on the surface, but if Denard can make another leap forward in his passing ability and Borges gets creative there is potential there.

The other key to me is the health of 3 players on defense. Any injuries to Mike Martin, Ryan Van Bergen, or Kenny Demens would be devastating. There is little depth on the D-line and Demens is the only proven LB. I see a 7-5 finish, but I wouldn’t be surprised with a 9-3 or 5-7.

by Stones1981 on Aug 24, 2011 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

On the surface

of the DRob/Borges fit, I’ll agree with you. But Borges had stints at UCLA and Auburn…I’m thinking somewhere along the way he’s had players with similar skill sets as DRob.

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

He actually hasn't

From Mgoblog;

Michigan’s new offensive coordinator has no experience working with a running quarterback

It doesn’t mean he can’t be successful with Denard, but he hasn’t worked with a running QB before.

by Stones1981 on Aug 24, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

What the hell Ted!

(You too Jon.)

I don’t care if it looks like we’re going to get steam-rolled — and believe me there is no way Fickell lets that happen on his watch. The Buckeyes are ALWAYS your pick over those shitheads up north. Man up for pete’s sake.

/Jeez

by NC_Buckeye on Aug 24, 2011 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

That PSU loss should read OSU in the prediction

For you and RWReese.

I will never…EVER…pick Michigan to beat Ohio State.

EVER.

Unless John Cooper gets to guest coach. Then I’m going to go fishing all weekend.

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by Ted Glover on Aug 24, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fixed

/whoops

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by Graham Filler on Aug 24, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Admit it Graham

You did that to intentionally mess with Ted a little.

/Effing Michigan fan.

by NC_Buckeye on Aug 24, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and sorry Ted

For ever doubting you.

/still waiting for Jon’s explanation

by NC_Buckeye on Aug 24, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

FAKE ASS BUCKEYE

by Fake Pelini on Aug 24, 2011 11:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

1993*

was my absolute favorite…

*Specific reason to never pick the “favorite” to win the game…

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

1993?

Oh, you mean the game where Michigan essentially sent Wisconsin to its first Rose Bowl in three decades? That game was f’ing awesome.

Unless you were an Ohio State fan, in which case, I pity you*.

(* = not really.)

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 26, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

just the fact that UM was able to play spoiler with a 28-0 beat down…those were the days… LOOOOONG ago…

siiiiigh…

by GoWings2008 on Aug 26, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

“So this is a Harvard bar, huh? I thought there’d be equations on the wall and shit and shit on the wall.”

/fixed
//nit picked

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by PurdueMatt on Aug 24, 2011 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Well I got her numba

how do you dem apples?

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

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by PurdueMatt on Aug 24, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I completely agree with the staff

nothing from 5-7 to 9-3 would be the least bit surprising, and nothing from “not a bowl team” to “Legends Division Champ” follows.

I’ve been saying for a while that I think the winner of the Michigan / MSU game will represent the division in Indy, and Michigan has a competent enough team and manageable enough schedule to do it. Think about it: a win over MSU, doesn’t play Wisconsin or Penn State, gets Nebraska and Ohio State at home. In a division that could very easily be a total bloodbath, an 6-2ish Michigan team could very easily be the champ.

I also realize that there are about 7 or 8 games on this schedule that are highly losable for a team that returns an entire, abysmal defense, replaced a head coach, and has a QB that can light up the world against the MAC but looks stunningly mediocre against defenses with a pulse. It will be entertaining to watch from a distance.

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by ckmneon on Aug 24, 2011 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, they get OSU and Nebraska at home

but they’ll still be bringing their defenses. Michigan’s spread, in which DR was devastating, quite frankly was terrible against any defenses with a pulse. Put him in an uncomfortable offense (for him), no proven RB to carry the load, and I think those defenses will shut down Michigan.

I don’t say that to be a homer, because I think once UM gets comfortable in that offense (which they may be by the OSU game), they’ll be back at or near the top. I just hink this year is going to be painful. Not 3-9 painful, but I don’t see Michigan as a top tier team this year.

This year.

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by Ted Glover on Aug 24, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a projection largely based on what I expect from that division

which is that 3 or 4 teams will enter Thanksgiving weekend 5-2 / 4-3 with a mathematical shot at heading to Indy. If, and it is a fairly big if, Michigan can beat MSU, Michigan could / should be one of those teams. Going 3-2 between Nebraska, OSU, Northwestern, Illinois and Iowa in some fashion isn’t a stretch.

Then again, neither is losing to MSU by 20 and going 1-4ish in those games.

One thing to like about Michigan’s schedule is not just the avoidance of PSU and Wisconsin (both of which should have very good to great defenses) or getting Nebraska and Ohio State at home, but that outside of MSU, they don’t play a single team that Phil Steele’s Power Plays computer projects will have a superior ppg differential until they play Nebraska on Nov. 19. The offense will have plenty of wiggle room to get comfortable, so to speak.

I don’t think this Michigan team will be great or that Denard Robinson is half the QB that he is a gimmick, but I do think they are set up nicely for a surprisingly good year.

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by ckmneon on Aug 24, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with Ted

although it pains me to admit it. Not the “he’s right about Michigan” part, but moreso the “I hate admitting he’s right” part.

UM has too many offensive questions to be answered, in a positive manner, for Michigan to be considered a threat to win the B1G, let alone contend for a spot in a BCS game. That, I think, is at least two years away.

DRob’s comfort in the new offense, the reliable RB, the extent to which the WR corps is being asked to change….there’s talent there, no doubt, but I still have lots of things I’d like to see before feeling comfortable about UMs chances in a game hosting Neb or OSU.

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I come from the land of fat and arrogant

and it’s face looks like this:

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by KennardHusker on Aug 24, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Or Jabba Weis.

That which is fired never truly dies, but comes back gassier and more absurd.

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by Seer on Aug 24, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to point out

That only Ricardo and I have Michigan beating BOTH Notre Dame and OSU.

Guess the cheese makes us crazy.

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by Hilary Lee on Aug 24, 2011 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

It's not the cheese...

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by Ted Glover on Aug 24, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

The other

part about UM beating OSU is not just the questions from Michigan’s standpoint that need to be answered, but the impact that the new head coach and loss of TP and the whole bow wave that washed over Columbus recently. Some think it’ll be a speed bump, some think it’ll be a mountain to climb…again, maybe 5-6 games into the season we’ll have a better idea.

I can’t WAIT for all the jokes to come out the week of the Miami game…

by GoWings2008 on Aug 24, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not impossible

but neither is losing both of those games by 30. That’s just how many questions all three of those teams have

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by ckmneon on Aug 24, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

One important thing to consider when talking about Michigan's defense

is that every single player (that’s going to be in the two-deep) was recruited to play in a traditional 4-3 scheme. I don’t know what happened, I don’t want to know, but the Xanax 3-3-5 that’s supposed to be a confusing, attacking defense that was forced upon a mediocre defensive coordinator was the perfect recipe for a terrible defense. The 3-3-5 could work in the Big Ten — in theory anyways — with mammoth defensive linemen, bigger linebackers and huge safeties. Michigan had none of those, plus a dearth of talent, size, and experience in an ill-fitting defense was a bad, bad situation. Now, they’re in a better scheme, better coaching (that isn’t the panacea that Michigan fans are touting) are bigger across the board, and still don’t have upper-level talent. The fact that Troy Woolfolk — our second-best defensive player — wasn’t mentioned in the preview is an utter joke. Even if he isn’t fully recovered, he’ll be our best defensive back easily, and one we didn’t have last year at that.

The defense will be vastly improved, but nowhere near an upper-tier B1G defense. Middle of the pack? Maybe.

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by Alex Cook on Aug 24, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

wait wait wait

Woolfork is better than Kovacs and the rest of the walk-ons???

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Easily.

Kovacs is decent — his limitations are obvious, and on a better defense they’d be masked a lot better, but he’s a solid Big Ten starter. Courtney Avery was tiny last year but he’s bulked up and could be a decent corner. Woolfolk has the other spot locked down: he’s the only player on the defense (other than maybe Cam Gordon at LB) that has upper-level Big Ten speed. The other corners are not very good: JT Floyd, Terrance Talbott, and Greg Brown aren’t able to play at a Big Ten level, although Blake Countess was our best recruit at CB. At free safety, yikes.

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by Alex Cook on Aug 24, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I found this picture of your team's secondary online

it looks delicious

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

picture fail

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

goddammit

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Swiss cheese secondary joke

was almost worth waiting through 2 failed images for.

by MNWildcat on Aug 24, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're welcome

part of the bit, i swear

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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 24, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Russell Wilson is talking to Denard Robinson

and Denard asks, “Why does Wisconsin wear red shirts like half the other teams in the B1G?”

Russell answers, “So that when we get injured and get blood on our shirts, the fans and our teammates won’t see that we’re injured.”

Russell thinks for a second and then asks, “Now why do you wear yellow pants?”

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by RWReese on Aug 24, 2011 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I believe a strong running game will be able to blow right by Michigan

7-5 is about right in my mind

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 24, 2011 5:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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