2011 Closing Arguments - Iowa
...And if you don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down...
I. File Opening
A. Case History
So 2010 didn't go according to plan. A pretty Top 10 preseason ranking melted away after the special teams melted down at Arizona. The team hit a highpoint in their complete an utter dismantling of Michigan State, but it was the previous week's game versus Wisconsin that best exemplified the story of their season.
Special Teams error(s)? Check. Solid performance ensuring that the outcome is in doubt in the last two minutes? Check. Defense unable to stop a long drive and gives up the go-ahead score? Check. Offense can't mount an effective two minute attack? Check. Iowa loses by 7 points or less? Check.
Iowa played that script out in losing by 7 to Arizona, 1 to Wisconsin, 4 to Northwestern, 3 to Ohio State, and 3 to Minnesota. Only a dropped touchdown pass by Indiana and a tremendous pick-six by Micah Hyde prevented the same story from occurring against Indiana and Missouri as well.

Is 8-5 a good record? It depends. If you were hoping to be a bowl eligible team, it's great. If you were hoping to be BCS Bowl eligible, it's disappointing. And more than any other, disappointing is the word that I think of when I look back at the 2010 Hawkeyes
B. Opening Statement
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we understand. We understand that you're wary. You feel let down. You feel as if your love and affection meant nothing. And, yes, there were times last year that may have seemed to be the case. But here we are again. There is no more bandwagon. No more patriotism jokes. No more expectations. And because of that, you know in the deepest places in your heart, that NOW is the time to believe in Iowa again.
Now, when the team is has fresh-faced offensive starters like James Vandenberg and Marcus Coker. Now, when the defense will be led by a strong secondary and James Morris, a Sophomore linebacker who some media members are referring to as Iowa's Chris Spielman (as a football player, not announcer). Deep down in your heart, you know that Iowa is good. Innately good, yes. But also good for the conference. Iowa wins its bowl games. It beats SEC teams (and doesn't vacate those victories later). Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you that it's OK to believe again.
II. Discovery
A. What Can We Learn From Pop Culture
No, Iowa doesn't handle great expectations well. But then, when you least expect it...where you least expect it...they bring their pain to those that get in their way. And yes, Iowa is the tractor in this analogy. What else would they be?
B. What We Can Learn From the Off Season
We asked if it was time to refresh the defense
We (gulp) looked at the strength and conditioning program
We took a long look at the new kid at QB
Iowa's in that weird equilibrium where your expectations of them will be based solely on your half full/half empty outlook. Yes, the Hawkeyes had a huge Senior class leave (sidenote: the entire starting defense for 2008 Iowa is in the NFL), but there were succession plans for most every spot. Vandenberg, Coker, Keenan Davis, and Brad Herman may not have much game experience, but they all have some. And each is expected to step into starting (and starring) roles. The offensive line is exciting (at Iowa, you get excited over O-Line play). Four previous starters return, and the unit should be the unquestioned strength of the team. If it is, it could be a fun year. If it's not, well, take a look at 2007.
For the past three years, Iowa's defense has been dominant, and the offense had to do just enough to win. While the back seven of the defense should be fine, there were huge losses on the D-Line. And for Iowa, the entire defensive scheme is based upon the premise that the D-Line can both stuff the run and get pressure. Absent that, the scheme breaks down. So maybe, this will be a year where the offense has to carry the weight. Iowa won that way in 2002, so it can be done.

III. Emotional Appeal
You need us, Big Ten. We're the last line of defense to prevent Nebraska from reaching Indianapolis.
Beyond that, Iowa waives its emotional appeal this season. It didn't pan out last year, and we'll rely on the facts and abilities this season. We've always been a program that's been about substance more than style. We'll act like it.

IV. Verdict
The writers have averaged Iowa out to 8.5-3.5 (4.75-3.25). If Iowa rounds that up to 9 wins, the Outback Bowl looks pretty likely. An 8 win Iowa is likely headed to the Gator Bowl or Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas. Having a schedule that misses Wisconsin and Ohio State makes it easier to imagine this Iowa team outperforming last year's squad.
Ted Glover: 8-4 (4-4) losses to Penn State, Minnesota, Michigan State, Nebraska
Jonathan Franz: 9-3 (5-3) losses to Penn State, Michigan State, Nebraska
Graham Filler: 8-4 (5-3) losses to Pitt, Northwestern, Purdue, Nebraska
Bama Hawkeye: 8-4 (5-3) losses to Iowa State, Penn State, Michigan, Nebraska
Chadnudj: 9-3 (5-3) losses to Penn State, Northwestern, and Michigan State
MSULaxer27: 10-2 (6-2) losses to Michigan State, Nebraska
Ricardo Efendi: 9-3 (5-3) losses to Penn State, Michigan State, Nebraska
Paterno Ave.: 7-5 (3-5) losses to Penn State, Northwestern, Michigan State, Purdue, Nebraska
KennardHusker: 9-3 (5-3) losses to Penn State, Michigan State, Nebraska
Hilary Lee: 7-5 (4-4) losses to Pitt, Penn State, Northwestern, Michigan State, Nebraska
JDMill: 9-3 (5-3) losses to Penn State, Northwestern, Nebraska
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Anywhere from 1st to 5th in the Legends
And what is there to say about a team that destroyed MSU, nearly beat both OSU and Wisconsin, nearly lost to Indiana, and returns virtually nobody? They’ve got talent and Ferentz and that should be good enough to win at least 7 games, beat Penn State, and lose to Northwestern, but what else can you really say?
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Iowa and Michigan are the two hardest teams to predict this year
Michigan has been covered. but Iowa has a brand new team, that we have seen just enough of to say “ooooo, i like it” (Vandy vs OSU, Coker vs Missouri), but with just enough question marks to say “this team should suck” (Defense Questions, #2 Wide Receiver), Anywhere from 5-7 to undefeated wouldn’t really surprise me this upcoming year.
With that being said, i say they get 8 wins, based off Iowas track record in the past with teams that shouldn’t be good, and based on the weak overall schedule.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 27, 2011 10:19 AM CDT reply actions
Ted Glover has us losing to Minny?

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 27, 2011 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
And Bama predicts an ISU loss
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 27, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I took that as
sort of a “shit, I think they’ll get one more loss here, but I don’t really know which team to pick them losing to ah fuck it, Iowa State, whatever” type of pick, and not a “Oh man ISU is gonna be way better this year we’re totes fucked” type of thing.
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by Bucketochicken on Aug 28, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll buy that explanation.
ISU’s o-line will be an early test for Iowa’s d-line, I think. Also, ISU has scored one TD vs Iowa in the last 3 or so years.
Unrelated: anyone notice McNutt decleating some Tiger in the first picture? Badassed.
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
it's
I don’t trust this many new players in their first road game against a team that cares way too much about this one game.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 28, 2011 4:31 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm. Yeah, I can see that.
Still, a lot of native Iowans on the roster (and in important leadership roles – QB, MLB, etc), so hopefully that won’t be an issue.
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by Bucketochicken on Aug 28, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed ISU is always a trap game for Iowa
I have faith that Brian Ferentz amongst others wont overlook Texas State University of Ames
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Brian's busy in Massachusetts.
I can’t imagine he’ll worry too much about Iowa State.
by The Mexican't on Aug 28, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Errr yeah. Thank you El Mexicannot
James is meaner anyways. JF won’t let Iowa drop their guard I think.
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That first pic is Marcus Coker on a long run. #34
McNutt is 7 as in “7 got 6.”
I’m not trying to be pedantic.
by HawkeyeRecon on Aug 28, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he was referring to McNutt laying out a guy in the background . . .
Thus helping clear the path for Coker. All you can see of the Mizzou kid is his legs lying up in the air as his body careens off the left side of the frame due to McNutt’s block.
Yes. McNutt is a stud
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 29, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I am excited that college football is almost back
but this team worries me. The good thing is that Ferentz’s teams usually get stronger as the schemes gel and guys understand what they’re being asked to do. If that happens by week 4, we should be ok. If it takes until week 8, it could be ugly
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by chitownhawkeye on Aug 27, 2011 11:00 AM CDT reply actions
I'm nervous but excited.
It’s been a long time since we saw an Iowa team actually improve over the course of a season to where they’re nearly unbeatable in November; this year may see a return to that. Ugh. God I hope so anyway.
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by Bucketochicken on Aug 28, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Shonn Greene and '08 was the last time that happened.
Hopefully we’re just a good team righ off the bat(so we don’t have those excrutiating losses early on) and then we improve throughout the season. The ISU and Pitt games will tell us a lot about our team. We should hand both of them a loss fairly easily or at least decidedly(more than 7 pts). If we can do that, I’ve got a lot of confidence in our team, then the next best team is PennState and away we go.
Skol!
Love me some Iowa defensive breakdowns in 2010. Made for an interesting season. 8-4 sounds about right with the deeper big ten.
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by Graham Filler on Aug 27, 2011 11:06 AM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
The more I look at Iowa...
The more I like them.
I’m going to say 10-2. Vandenberg is legit, and Coker is a beast. Losses at Penn State and at Nebraska.
What about the defense? Well, the defense will be fine. It’s Kirk Ferentz and Iowa. They’ll be fine. I expect the offense to be better than last year.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Aug 27, 2011 11:58 AM CDT reply actions
I expect the offense to be better than last year too
mainly because of the running game. Our running game has been very mediocre the last 2 years, but this year has potential to be pretty good.
The big question for me is how the D-line works itself out. We’ll know a lot more about this unit (and team as a whole) by the end of Week 3 (after the Pitt game) and even more so after the 5th game/Week 6 (after the Penn State game). I think it could be a year, as mentioned in the article, where offense carries the defense. I think that will probably be the case for at least the first 1/2 of the season while the defense, especially the D-line, gels and gets things figured out.
I think we get through the non-con unscathed, but until we learn more about the team it’s really, really hard to make predictions about the conference schedule. But I’ll go 9-3, losses to Penn State, Nebraska, and one of Northwestern/Michigan/Michigan State.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Aug 27, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Shhhhh
our running game was supposed to be great last year too, then we lost our top two running backs in the first 3 weeks, and our final starter was gone before the bowl game
people forget because Coker was great in his bowl game, but Coker was Iowa’s 4th string running back and supposed to redshirt last year. so never EVER assume Iowa will have a good running game.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 27, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldnt suprise me if we were using a true freshman yet again some time down the line
McCall or Canzeri
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 27, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why I said there was potential to be pretty good and didn't mention any RBs by name
Nothing is a given with our running game, that’s for damn sure. AIRBHG is always watching and listening.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Aug 27, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
So you're saying
is that in the pop culture bit, AIRBHG was the lawnmower and your running game was the foot?
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by Pariahwulfen on Aug 28, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Our running game is the guy in "The Great Outdoors" who's been struck by lightning 66 times.
AIRBHG is the roiling purpleblack wall cloud on the horizon ominously mumbling thunder and rolling ever closer.
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by Bucketochicken on Aug 28, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
9-3
This year’s Iowa team isn’t as good on paper as last year’s, but a favorable schedule will get them nine wins and a decent Bowl trip. I also don’t expect this year’s Iowa team to fold in November.
I’d like to see Minnesota beat Iowa this year, but I would not bet the farm on that happening.
Nebraska should win whichever the hell division Iowa is in.
by Midnight Rambler on Aug 27, 2011 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
What about a pig on said farm?
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by Bucketochicken on Aug 28, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Great!
We’re fucked. The “Purdue Rule” is in effect here: if the strongest argument you can make in favor of a team is who they don’t play, then they aren’t that good.
I’m thinking 8-4 with a 4-0 start followed by a brutal mid-season stretch
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by HoyaGoon on Aug 28, 2011 5:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactly how I feel about NU.
People are making that same argument.
And I agree wholeheartedly with your prediction, Herr Goon. Somewhere in that No Man’s Land of 7-5/8-4.
With a 40-7 loss to Penn State at home?
Bazinga! Iowa doesn’t lose to Penn State.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 28, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Badger fan...
…I would love a Wisconsin-Iowa title game.
Would erase the disappointment of not otherwise getting that matchup this year. Last year’s slugfest was classic Big Ten football.
I think this year’s squad is much like last year’s though. Pretty good, not great. In fact, I think it will be a comparable squad three years running – the squad from two year’s ago was a Stanzi-fluke-tastic season. Take that remarkable run of coin-flip wins away and 2009 Iowa = 2010 Iowa.
by StLouieeeBadger on Aug 27, 2011 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
Iowa-Wisconsin over the last decade or so
has almost always been “Classic Big Ten football”. It’s the best rivalry in the sport that nobody seems to mind has been thrown aside.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 28, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Fixed
Iowa-Wisconsin over the last decade or so has almost always been "Classic Big Ten football". It’s the best rivalry in the sport that nobody seems tomind has been thrown asidecare about because they’re already too drunk.
When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic
Lots of people picking Iowa to lose to Michigan State.
Iowa isn’t losing to Michigan State.
Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.
Iowa might lose to Michigan State
It all depends on which MSU shows up.
the key to beating MSU is apparently to take a 2 touchdown lead on them early, because they then go into emo mode and do nothing for the rest of the game. or at least that was my observation in their two losses that were somehow not as close as the scores indicated
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 27, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sparty
doesn’t win in Kinnick. It’s a rule.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 27, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
We hadn't won in Happy Valley since 1966 either. Fixed that.
We beat Minny every time from 1977 to 1997. Streaks end.
Iowa doesn't lose to Penn State.
Everybody (except Anthony Morelli) knows that.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 28, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, of my 1 loss between Northwestern/Michigan/Michigan St prediction
I think Northwestern is most likely due to recent history. Michigan and Michigan State don’t scare me nearly as much, though I recognize their dangerous-ness. And this is mainly because those are the types of the teams Iowa typically matches up very well against and will ‘get up for.’ I really hope Iowa has seen the light and will bring it against Northwestern this year. Enough is enough. From all accounts, they’ve really been placing an emphasis on speed in the LB corps to counter that type of offensive team. Hopefully we see it.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Aug 27, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
If 2010 Iowa can lose to Minnesota
Then 2011 Iowa could lose to Sparty
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by HeartOfHawkness on Aug 27, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Il say this, i think the Defense will be fine
the two places we tend to reload easily (besides the Oline) are DB positions and the Dline.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 27, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions
Three comments:
Iowa is a Case-IH kinda team, not a Deere. Sorry about the shredded foot, but get a Ford, not a Mercedes.
Vandenberg has a better arm than Stanzi, and DiNardo says he’s the best pure passer in the Big Ten. Think about that. He’s usually right with the pre-season commentary.
Iowa will not have future millionaire D-linemen walking around in the last 10 minutes of the game this year.
We’ll lose a few stupid games and win a couple of huge ones, late. 8-4.
We play tackle football.
18 comments on an Iowa post?
Is Gookin back in solitary?
Posting on a non college football Saturday…it’s like a ghost town here.
Honestly?
A lot of the commenters here (specifically 2 from Ohio State and 1 from Nebraska [ahem]) have really turned folks off from posting these days. I hope this changes as this site has solid writing and a fun cross-section of knowledgeable Big Ten fans.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 28, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Co-signed.
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Rec'd
I hate nothing more than to see a post with a few dozen new comments, only for all of them to be in a horrible dick measuring thread jack.
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by Pariahwulfen on Aug 29, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Suppose its all perspective.
Some people are perceived as trolls others as righteous mod wannabes.
I know people get sick of the jNW meme from Iowa fans. Others could argue that both fanbases feed off it. Others swoop in high and mighty and demonize anyone doesn’t post in their likeness. Either this a B1G football blog or it is platform for others to judge. My goodness this blog was birthed from the greatest rivalry in college sports! Heaven forbid, however, anyone pick on poor NORTHWESTERN who freaking own the Hawkeyes! Football is about competition and fun, not koombaya. Next time i see someone post ‘fuck michigan’ I’m going to facepalm.gif that shit ASAP. Clearly I am not a very popular contributor round these parts but squashing rivalry posting is taking the fun out of conference blog.
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 29, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
To be fair
most of the aforementioned thread jacks come from my fellow poison nuts.
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by Pariahwulfen on Aug 29, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck Iowa
And Des Moines and Iowa City.
Buncha losers that play the ‘well. if our 2002 team had played your 2001 team we’d have beaten you’
Douchebags
by HuskerInLandOLakes on Aug 27, 2011 9:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I was young, so i dont recall
But wasn’t Iowa’s 2001 team one of the worst of the decade?
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 27, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck a buncha Hoqeyes.
Best thing about hogeyes, is the spend money here then go home to the hog confinement lots.
by HuskerInLandOLakes on Aug 27, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 28, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hello Big Red Troll!
You really are the greatest fans in college football.
Sorry Texas was such a bully to you guys, bullying is a serious issue.
Welcome to the Big Ten.
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
A lot of panelists predicting a loss to Penn State. 1 loss in the last ten games makes me think that’s not particularly likely.
TCU won the 2011 Rose Bowl
Auburn won all the Tostitos.
Who do you think got the better deal?
Glad we could give you something to look forward to every Fall
by GreatBarrierReiff on Aug 28, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The one and only BNB right here.
Looking at Pat Fitzgerald’s body of work it’s hard to claim that he doesn’t focus on Iowa more than other opponents. Some jNW DB or defensive coach even said as much at B1G media days. It’s a self created meme, not one that Hawk Nation imagines.
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad you're still here.
There IS the difference between “only” and “more” in terms of wanting to beat someone, but hey, that’s just semantics on the Internet, right?
There may be a difference once Wizgerald logs a big time win over some not named Kirk Ferentz
until then jNW is Iowa’s other lil’ bro. So cute when the Cyclones and Wildcats get worked up to beat the Hawks.
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You do realize you'll lose this argument every time, right?
They need only say “scoreboard”. You’re just making an ass of yourself.
by The Mexican't on Aug 28, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Bowl wins is my redemption.
If making an ass of myself stopped me from doing things I’d be resigned to solitary confinement.
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
There is your official unofficial bowl:
The Iowa Hawkeye Bowl – wins recorded there.
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm such an Ass.
LoL
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed, which is why I’d flip the losses from Penn State to NoU- not predicting any more wins for the Iowa boys than most of the panelists are.
TCU won the 2011 Rose Bowl
Auburn won all the Tostitos.
Who do you think got the better deal?
by HawkeyedFrog on Aug 28, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, it was at the hands of Anthony Morelli...
(which makes it MORE embarrassing, not less)
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 28, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything from 5-7 to 11-1, so I'll go with 8-4
The case for 5-7: They were 7-5 last year, and only Auburn returns less amongst 1A teams. They play in the deepest division in college football, have a cross divisional road game with Penn State, and play non-con games with “decency is a serious possibility” teams in ISU and Pitt.
The case for 11-1: Tons of talent and a couple legit stars. Kirk Ferentz / Iowa always seem to overachieve when you least expect it. Not going to be big underdogs, if underdogs at all, in any game before mid-November. Owns Penn State, and that’s supposed to be one of the tougher games. Persa’s health is a concern, and without a healthy Persa, Northwestern shouldn’t stand a chance, and Iowa’s at home. Crushed MSU last year, also at home. I can’t imagine Iowa going undefeated against @PSU, @Nebraska, MSU, and Northwestern, but only losing one is possible.
So I split the difference and say 8-4.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Speaking of Northwestern...
…that’s a curious little losing streak Iowa has going there. Conference record aside, does anybody think this streak is extended by another game this year?
by StLouieeeBadger on Aug 28, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Iowa beats Penn State, Penn State beats Northwestern, Northwestern beats Iowa
I don’t know if it’s written in the Bible or anything, but maybe it should be
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
I'm predicting a one-spot shift in that weird triumvirate this year . . .
I think THIS season, Iowa beats N.W., N.W. beats PSU and PSU finally beats Iowa again.
The world is restored to its normal axis.
Try crazy, and you might have it.
Of course, that would also involve Ohio State dropping a game to Michigan for the first time since 2003.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 28, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
that's not going to happen
Gravy Hoke sure knows how to huff and puff, but there’s still a huge gap in skill level.
Good luck taking those undersized kids that had a hard enough playing 3-3-5 and getting them back in the 4-3. Good luck getting HE16MAN to be a drop back passer.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 28, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
If that doesn't work out
Denard might make a pretty deadly WR…
Might.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 28, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but
sure knows how to huff and puff, but there’s still a huge gap in skill level.
Weren’t people saying this about Jim Tressel before 2001?
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
I hate that I'm agreeing with you
But I do. I’m amazed how many people are buying into the Hoke talk as being anything but Kiffin-esque bluster that sounds good in June but is sorely lacking come October.
In 2012 or 2013, this could be a scary-good Michigan team. Until then, however, it is a collection of mis-matched socks.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Aug 28, 2011 5:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If McGloin is in fact PSU's starter
they’re not going to beat a whole lot of teams.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 28, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
/moxy'd
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Aug 28, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The Hawks should go 11-1 (MSU) and then lose the title to Whisky.
If this team does not get to the title game, its time to back-up the truck and rethink football in Iowa City
Dikaia Upotheke - Justice Our Foundation
Rethink all of football? Nah
no matter what the outcome is this year, this was a rebuilding/retooling year for us. We are losing a ridiculous amount of starters and leaders. We lost our top three running backs, most of our D-Line and half of our DBs, one of the best Iowa recievers ever, and an NFL caliber QB. even If we go 5-7 this year i wont really panic.
Personally i think that next year is the year that Iowa will be contending for the Big Ten title. This year there are too many questions on Defense, the RB and WR positions arent very deep as far as we can tell as of today, and even though Vandy had a great OSU game two years ago, he also had a pretty meh Minny game the next week.
Too many questions on this team for my liking. but get a year under most of these guy’s belts and a year to figure out just who should be where on the chart next year and i think it will be totally different. But this year? no need to panic if we suck.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 28, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
I like the talent in the pipeline. I’ll go out on a limb and say that I think the next few years will be more like the 02-05 run than the 06-07 campaigns.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
seriously?
You’re saying that if a team with a new QB, new DLjne, new RB, and the second fewest returning starters in D1 can’t match their two best seasons in the last 50 years, the program is a failure?
Fans in Alabama have a better grasp of expectations than that.
"Bama Hawkeye, you know, the Iowa blogger who actually uses reason and analysis." - Patrick Vint
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by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 28, 2011 4:46 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Uhh...
He’s a jNWU fan. He’s making fun of internet Hawkeye fans.
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by Bucketochicken on Aug 28, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
jNWho?
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Could you please stop representing us?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 28, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Who do you represent?
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The Firm of Missing, The Point, and Frequently.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 28, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
See you in court.
Weren’t you above commenting on the shame it is when others discourage fans to use this medium?
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by BentNotBroken on Aug 28, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
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In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Aug 29, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
For Iowa, the MSU game actually came after the Wisky game
Contrary to what the first paragraph of this post may tell you
Bucky's 5th Quarter - All Badgers, all the time.
Of course it did.
And it’s fixed.
"Bama Hawkeye, you know, the Iowa blogger who actually uses reason and analysis." - Patrick Vint
http://www.offtackleempire.com
by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 30, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Once again
My deepest thanks go to your Hawkeyes for beating the Spartans this season. Or utterly eviscerating them. Whichever you prefer.
Bucky's 5th Quarter - All Badgers, all the time.


































