Closing Arguments: Ohio State
"There is evidence of bad shit having been survived before. Ancient Advice Left in cave by Wise French Caveman: When Bigbad Shit come, no run scream hide. Try paint picture of it on wall. Drum to it. Sing to it. Dance to it. This give you handle on it." -- Ken Kesey, best selling author of 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'
Some Bigbad Shit happened to Ohio State since we did this dance this time last year. We screamed, some of us hid, we wrote on walls about it, some people danced the drumbeat of the Death Penalty, singing and dancing on Ohio State's grave. Jim Tressel isn't who we thought he was and is no longer the coach. Terrelle Pryor is serving a five game suspension...in the NFL, as an Oakland Raider, and the shine is off the Ohio State chrome, at least for the time being.
But at the end of the day, Ohio State has survived.
About 12 years ago, my Dad got pneumonia in both lungs and nearly died on Christmas night. He survived, but ever since that episode, he had what I call a 'new normal'. He lost some of his vitality, his strength, and his stamina, and it never came back. Although I don't think Ohio State will suffer long term over this, there is, at least this year, a 'new normal' coming in Columbus.
Ohio State, after the jump.
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I. Case History/Opening Argument
A. Case History
If this were a coaching hire under any other circumstance, with a coaching search, vetted candidates, and an ultimate decision, I think I'd be fine with Luke Fickell, at least in some respects. He's has a great staff around him, he seems like an energetic and enthusiastic guy, he has a reputation as a great recruiter, and his OSU credentials are impeccable.
BUT..the unknown.
He's never been a head coach before, and to say this was a normal coaching change is akin to saying Sterling Archer is just another spy. How's Fickell going to do? We don't know. He might be a better coach than Tressel...doubtful. He might freeze up like a spotlighted deer in the road...also doubtful. But with Tressel, I always felt that Ohio State had the better coach on the sideline 9 times out of ten, and while he was playing chess, his counterpart was usually two steps behind and playing checkers, and the outcome, while usually pretty close, was rarely in doubt. Now, I'm not saying that Fickell will be a bad coach, but I am saying until we actually see him...coach...a game, we have no idea what we're dealing with.
B. Opening Statement
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, I rise in defense of my client, Ohio State. Your honor, Ohio State appears before you a humbled program. Gone is the hubris of the last decade, and the certainty of knowing that coming out of the tunnel Ohio State was the better team eight times out of ten, with the better coach nine and a half times out of ten. Also gone is the bombast of years past. My client realizes that the ruling by the NCAA, while very gracious (at least to this point), still has implications moving forward. For most of our lives, the saying in Columbus has been 'at Ohio State, we don't rebuild, we reload.' While the Buckeyes aren't rebuilding, at this point it's a stretch to say that there will be a simple re-load enroute to another B1G title and a BCS game.
Oh, and George Dohrmann can suck our Pulitzer Prize winning balls.
II. Factual Summation, or Discovery, as the Barristers Might Say
A. What We Can Learn From Pop Culture
Normally, in this spot, we put a summary of what we've written about OSU during the off-season, but screw that. Almost everything we wrote about was the god damn scandal, and I'm done reading about all that stuff. Let's talk football. We have a widget on the left side of the main page that goes into the sordid history. I'm done with it.
Well, almost...Cee Lo, gaze upon the OSU haters, sing it loud, and sing it proud, my man.
I see you writin' words of doom 'bout the team I love,
and I'm like FUCK YOU! (Woo hoo hoo)
I guess the Dohrmann SI story just wasn't enough,
so I'm like FUCK YOU and FUCK Dohrmann too!
Looks like tattoos and Gordon Gee didn't equal L-O-I-C...ain't that some shit? (Ain't that some shit!)
Yeah, excuse me while I do a little dance of joy, at least for the time being. With no LOIC or Failure to Monitor (at least for now), the death of The Ohio State Buckeyes have been greatly exaggerated, but let's not make light of this: OSU, while probably not damaged long term as long as there are no new allegations, is behind the power curve for this season, regardless of the talent still in Columbus. And make no mistake, there is plenty of talent there.
But most of that talent is unproven...and say it with me...unknown.
Besides Tressel, they are missing some integral players for five games, to include top running back Dan Herron and WR Devier Posey. Pryor, he of the 31-4 career record, won't be back at all. They will be opening the season without those three and a multitude of other players who graduated, including Cameron Heyward, Dane Sanzenbacher, Ross Homan, and Brandon Saine. This would be a tough year for OSU to make it to Indianapolis in a normal year, and this off season has been anything but normal for the Buckeyes. They have a difficult schedule made tougher without those key players, and the first game they get everyone back will be on the road against Nebraska. It's asking a lot from inexperienced underclassmen on both sides of the ball.
And long term, The Aftermath could become an issue. I've never been a huge fan of rating recruiting classes; it's akin to grading NFL drafts 24 hours after they're done--fairly arbitrary and mostly pointless. But you can't help but notice the inroads Brady Hoke is making back into the fertile recruiting grounds of Ohio, something that Jim Tressel locked down for the better part of a decade, and Rich Rodriguez pretty much ignored. Right now, it's just one class and a blip on the radar. If OSU has a good season, and once they get their coaching situation settled, things should get closer to what they were in recent years. But a poor season followed by an underwhelming selection for head coach, and the worm may turn for the forseeable future in Michigan's favor.
III. Emotional Plea
A. Why Ohio State Is Still A Player For The B1G Championship

The OSU quarterback: Braxtoe MIllerman
All of those obstacles aside, if there is one program that can withstand a lean year, it's Ohio State. The entire coaching staff save Tressel is back, the guys that they have on their second team could start on a lot of teams, and it looks like they have capable guys that can step up and play. The biggest question mark, of course, is quarterback. The current battle is between freshman Braxton Miller and senior Joe Bauserman. Coach Fickell just announced that both have earned the right to play as the #1 guy, so there will be a quarterback shuffle, at least for the early part of the season.
Bauserman is a senior, and has been in the offense and knows it probably better than the defensive minded Fickell. But Miller is immensely talented and the better athlete, and might be able to make more happen on the field. I fully expect both of them to see action early on, and it could very well drag on through the whole season. It's not like it hasn't happened with the Buckeyes before, and it was one of the few times I can remember where a quarterback rotation worked (Stanley Jackson and Joe Germaine, OSU won the Rose Bowl). I am a firm believer that if you have two quarterbacks, you really don't have any, but most OSU fans have no faith in Bauserman, yet you look at the freshman Miller and just assume his inexperience will cost two or three games off the top.
As for the rest of the offense, RB's Jamaal Berry and Jordan Hall should be able to hold the fort down until Boom Herron is back. They've looked good in limited action, and if there's one position Ohio State recruits better than just about anyone, it's running back. If there's a position of concern, it's WR, which isn't a good thing if your QB position is so shaky. Verlon Reed and Corey Brown will step in and try to fill the void left by Sanzenbacher and Posey, but they have a grand total of 7 receptions between them. If Ohio State throws more than 15 passes a game in the first month, I'll be stunned.
On defense, the line should still be stout, anchored by John Simon. Andrew Sweat, Tyler Moeller, and Etienne Sabino will probably continue the long standing tradition of ridiculously talented OSU linebackers, and the secondary will still be good.
Both sides of the ball are playing in very familiar systems with all of the same position coaches and coordinators, except Fickell is now the head man and he was replaced as LB coach by Mike Vrabel. They know this system, the coordinators are some of the most respected in the conference, and even though they lost a lot of experience, there is a lot of talent waiting to shine.
The Miami mess--which makes OSU's problems look like Mormon seminary in comparison--now makes that a very winnable game, especially with suspensions of some key players looming, as has been reported. And with MSU at home, that's a difficult but winnable game.
If you're an OSU fan, you can talk yourself into the Buckeyes being 5-0 just in time to get their key players back for their trip to Lincoln. If they can run the gauntlet of MSU, Nebraska, Illinois (who is going to be good, mark my words), and Wisconsin at 3-1 and only end up with one conference loss on the season, they have a real shot to make it to Indianapolis. I don't see any team really running the table once the conference season starts, so 7-1 should be good enough to win the Leaders Division, depending on who they lose to and how the tiebreakers fall. Wisconsin will be the big hurdle, but that's a home game, it's coming off of a bye, and the players suspended because of the tattoo scandal will have been reinstated for almost a month. Nebraska's the next biggest hurdle, but Nebraska's offense isn't intimidating, and that's the game OSU gets all of the suspended players back. Run those four games, and they're on the inside track to Indy.
B. Why Ohio State Isn't A Player For The B1G Championship
Because there's just too much to overcome. A coaching change is one thing, but going from Tressel to Fickell is on an entirely different level. And again, that's not a knock on Fickell. He's in a difficult spot, and he's embraced the opportunity. But he will be coaching for his job every week, and speculation is that regardless of how he does, he's a temp on a one year contract, to be replaced by (insert name of big time coach here). That's not fair to Fickell, and he could very well win the job outright, but he's being forced to coach with one hand tied behind his back for five games. And even though everybody else on the staff is back, it's the one guy that isn't back that potentially throws the whole season into chaos, and Fickell coaching at full strength might still be three steps below everyone else in the conference.
Except Ron Zook. I kid, I kid.
Like I mentioned earlier, no one knows how Fickell will react to adversity, nor do we know how he will adjust to what the opponent is throwing at him. The Buckeyes might feel the pressure to hire a 'big name', regardless of how well Fickell does, and the perception of him as a lame duck caretaker has already had an adverse affect on recruiting.
And even if Fickell turns out to be as good at X's and O's as everyone else in the conference, the loss of talent, from Pryor and the tattoo guys along with players that graduated, well, that makes Ohio State just another good team in 2011. The talent gap between Pryor and Braxtoe Millerman is too wide to overcome, and when you throw in the loss of Posey, Herron, Saine, Sanzenbacher, Adams, Ross Homan, Brian Rolle, Chimdi Chekwa, Cam Heyward, Justin Boren, and Tressel, there's not a scenario that realistically ends up with Ohio State continuing their current run of BCS appearances. The quarterback won't have anyone to throw to early, and that lack of a passing game will cost OSU dearly, right when it's needed the most.
Ohio State's schedule is brutal. Miami is a winnable game, but it's at Miami, going against a team that's also embraced the 'us against the world' mantra. They open their conference schedule with a Bataan Death March of co-champion Michigan State with the tattoo scandal players suspended, at Nebraska, at an Illinois team that played them very tough in Champaign last year, and home against Wisconsin. It's not unrealistic to see OSU going 2-2 if not 1-3 in that stretch, and if they drop the Miami game, the season could be over early. If that happens, Fickell is a Dead Man Walking, and this thing could unravel before our eyes.
IV. Verdict
A. The Staff Calls the Games
But what's really going to happen? In 2011, I think Ohio State will be one of the better teams in the conference, more than likely an above average team. But to win the B1G in 2011, above average won't cut it.
Overall, the OTE staff has OSU averaging out to about a 9-3 record, which all things considered, I'd be happy with as long as one of the wins is against Michigan. Bama Hawkeye and JDMill are our only writers that have OSU making the inaugural championship game, and Bama is the only one that has them winning the title game. The staff also sees OSU going 7-4 against Michigan. Resident Buckeye writer and co-founder Jon Franz picks them to lose to Michigan, and he will be turning in his OSU card and moving to St. Louis Nashville shortly, right next to FAKE ASS BUCKEYE Ted Glover Kirk Herbstreit.
Right after Kaiser Soze pays him a visit.
Ted Glover:
10-2 (6-2) Losses to: MSU, Nebraska
Judas Iscariot Jonathan Franz:
9-3 (5-3) Losses to: Michigan State, Nebraska, and Michigan (BOO!)
Graham Filler:
8-4 (5-3) Losses to: Miami FL, MSU, Neb, Wisconsin
Bama Hawkeye:
10-2 (6-2) losses to Nebraska, MSU with OSU over Nebraska in Conference Championship Game
Hilary Lee:
9-3 (5-3) Losses to: Nebraska, Penn St, Michigan (BOO!)
JDMill
10-2 (7-1) losses to Miami, Nebraska, lose Conference Championship game to Nebraska
Chadnudj:
Ohio State: 9-3 (5-3): losses to Michigan State, Nebraska, and Penn State
Paterno Ave:
8-4 (4-4) Losses to: MSU, Nebraska, Wisconsin, PSU
Ricardo Efendi
10-2 (6-2) Losses to: Nebraska, Michigan (BOO!)
MSUlaxer27
OSU 10-2 (6-2) Losses to: Wisconsin, Michigan State
KennardHusker
Ohio State 9-3 (5-3) Losses to: Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan (BOO!)
O...H...!!
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While reports of OSU's death may have been premature,
It’s also a little early to for exuberance over exoneration. I sense that there’s another shoe to drop yet. And don’t give me any crap about this being a humbled program. The university and its fans are as obnoxious as ever. I don’t wish that tOSU gets the death penalty. I do hope that they get their asses handed to them on several occasions this year, though.
Is someone a little bit jealous? Just a little bit? Yes OSU fans are obnoxious as ever but when they travel in small cities…..everything seems normal.
by TheBengalAbroad on Sep 1, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I O!
Hang on Sloopy…Sloopy, hang on
"Nothing cleanses the soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
by RedDevilEA on Sep 1, 2011 6:47 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Jim Heacock still runs the defense.
And the defense is still loaded, especially the d-line.
10-2 sounds about right. Losses to Nebraska and Wisconsin/Penn State. But a victory over Michigan, and a Cap One Bowl appearance where they burn an SEC team with all the wrath of General Sherman!
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 7:25 AM CDT reply actions
A bowl game against the SEC
Is the one game in which I would actually root for the Useless Nuts.
by hoosierdaddynow on Sep 1, 2011 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions
The wolverines have a coach this year
Wisconsin is stacked and MSU’s defense is going to be a killer.
Screw Nebraska.
Three losses for OSU this year.
UM might have a coach
but they still don’t have a defense. Ohio State does. I think OSU wins a close one.
"I'm crazy? Cyril, you're the one who killed a perfectly good hooker!"--Sterling Archer
Michigan has a quarterback,
Ohio doesn’t.
The most addicting drug is winning(not Charlie Sheen's "winning").
You're right, we have TWO QBs
and more is more better right?
/facedesksrepeatedly
/stopmewhenit’sMillerTime
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
Michigan has a QB
until the 3rd qtr, when he is on the sideline with another injury, because not only is he incapable of being a polished passer or tying his shoes, but he’s also made of glass
HE16MAN!!!
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
LIKE A BAUS
/gun in mouth
/cobain’d
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
You're Michigan, remember?
You should be able to beat Ohio! But in order to see them in the MAC Championship, you have to beat Toledo first.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Rec times 10
"I'm crazy? Cyril, you're the one who killed a perfectly good hooker!"--Sterling Archer
Against Indiana and Illinois
Against a good defense, Robinson disappears like he’s in federal witness protection.
And all Miller or Bauserman will need to do against that sorry ass defense of yours is pivot and hand off.
"I'm crazy? Cyril, you're the one who killed a perfectly good hooker!"--Sterling Archer
Like a BAUS
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Sep 1, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Ted
Man you’ve had your wheaties this week. 500,000 words on OSU and a Ceelo Green remix…man’s on fiiiiiire
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by chitownhawkeye on Sep 1, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I've said it before, and I'll say it again
Fuck Michigan.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Auto-Rec
All day – All Long
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
going to a 4-3 doesn't mean they'll be good at tackling.
The nard dog breaks a rib by week 4. Stone. Cold. Lock.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
But, but, but...MANBALL!
Someone forgot to tell them you need men on defense to play manball…..
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
and a running back over 150lbs
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I honestly thought
“MANBALL” was a fat joke about Hoke
Nebraska, The Good Life
Kieth Stone, always smooth
i think
he may have just earned a new nickname.
Show them Ohio's here.
by slidingscrapes on Sep 1, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
MICHIGAN SUCKS!
/just needs aziraphale’s signature now
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly...
I’m not sure how anyone picks PSU to beat OSU at the shoe given PSU’s lack of offense. Either Moxy or What’s his face at QB and Royster is gone. Royster was the only consistent thing they had on O last year….
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 10:40 AM CDT reply actions
and he couldn't even crack 50 yds
/All-Time Leading Rusher’d
With the #1 overall pick in the Rapture Draft, God chooses the Macho King Randy Savage
To be fair
I’m not sure if Archie Griffin could have broken 50 yards with those turnstiles on the OL.
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Sep 1, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
but PSU has magically gotten better, right??
this is a serious question. PSU fans? Anyone? Bueller??
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Turnstile you say?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGlkG3SibVM&feature=player_detailpage#t=190s
First play you see. Fuck Michigan.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Sep 1, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
They could end up winning their division
or fall flat on their face without the vest behind them and an unproven QB.
Il say 3 losses to Wisconsin, Nebraska and insert inexplicable loss here, to Purdue or Indiana or Illinois or Michigan, you know one of the bottom feeders.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 1, 2011 10:45 AM CDT reply actions
I would say Illinois
of that group, and I think that’s an accurate prediction. I still went 10-2 because I can’t see OSU being the underdog in any of those games, but a loss in one of them won’t surprise me at all.
Just not Michigan.
"I'm crazy? Cyril, you're the one who killed a perfectly good hooker!"--Sterling Archer
So it's official that we have this guy as the HC again?

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
by Pariahwulfen on Sep 1, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
you'd think so......
people would stop bitching about not blowing people out, but then would bitch about losing to.. you know.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm a Cleveland fan too
so at least I’m used to laughing maniacally while strapped up in the padded room.
In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.
Illinois or Michigan State
I see us losing one of these and getting by in a squeaker for the other.
Wisconsin and Nebraska will be trench warfare. A loss in Lincoln is more than likely but am pretty sure we’re going to shock the rest of the conference by handling the Badgers in Columbus.
And Hoke is not ready for what Fickell’s bringing to Ann Arbor (who happens to be a whore, BTW). All cylinders will be firing by Nov 26.
So Ted, you’re right on the money with 10-2. Does Fickell keep his job with that record. (I hope so. I’ve been telling starry-eyed Buckeyes they need to stop and look at scUM’s last two coaching searches.)
And I…O…!!
illinois?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Handling the Badgers in Columbus?
ORLY? Because that was supposed to happen in 1999. 2001, and 2004. Only thing was it didn’t.
2007 was Chris Wells personally dominating Wisconsin in the 2nd half, but the Badgers still had a lead until the UW defense collapsed and gave up 28 unanswered points (again, 2007 is NOT a year I remember too fondly). 2009 was fluky as hell, Wisconsin dominated the scoreboard and smothered Ohio State’s offense but lost by 18 points.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe it's because those type of flukey things happen
side note – what are you ACTUAL thoughts on Wilson? People seem to be really high on him. I watched his NC State games, and I think he can be kind of hit and miss. Good, but not great like others are painting him. .
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
My thoughts are that he's good,
and working with better backs and OL than he ever had at NCSU is going to do him favors, as is having a defense (not exactly something that Mr. Tom O’Brien was a master of at NCSU).
However, the receivers are unproven. Isaac Anderson, Kyle Jefferson, and Davis Gilreath all exhausted their eligibility (it feels like Jefferson has been here since the dawn of time, and hasn’t done much of ANYTHING since 2007), as did Lance Kendricks. So the only true returning receivers are Nick Toon and Jared Abbrederis (who showed some promise in limited action a year ago), with Jake Byrne and Jacob Pedersen returning at TE (both of whom saw some action last year; Byrne is a good blocking TE and Pedersen can be a downfield threat).
The good thing for Wilson is that Chryst will likely use the backs in the passing game more than last year, and Ball and White are fairly good receivers (not to mention BHGP’s beloved Bradie Ewing).
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I seem to remember him throwing a decent number of INTs
could be wrong, and I won’t look it up, bu tI think he did.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
He did throw double-digit INTs
but he attempted over 500 passes, giving him a low INT rate.
His pass attempt numbers are going to go down at Wisconsin with Montee Ball and James White, though.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually concur with Obrien on this one.
The Buckeyes have never really “handled” Wisconsin of late. He’s correct about the 2009 game especially. Wisconsin pretty much dominated the line of scrimmage. I have no idea how we ended up winning by 18.
I think we can beat Wisconsin. But we won’t handle them.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was the defense and special teams game
Like all but one of your TDs came when Wisconsin’s offense/ST was on the field.
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Total yards for that game...
Wisconsin – 368
Ohio State – 184
They doubled us up in yardage. The Buckeyes got two pick-sixes and a kickoff return for a TD.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
that Coleman INT was liek 90 yards too, wasn't it?
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Sep 1, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Not saying it won't be a slug-fest
Just think this is the game that Miller starts to find his rhythm and the offense comes alive. Plus it’s at night and the crowd will add its own dimension to the game.
Again, it will be a shock to the rest of the conference as up to this game it will appear the Badgers are going to coast to Indianapolis. I think your prior record will include dominant wins over the Huskers and Spartans.
How
do you dominate a “scoreboard” and lose by 18 points?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2011 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
/gasp
Judas Iscariot Jonathan Franz:
9-3 (5-3) Losses to: Michigan State, Nebraska, and Michigan
FAKE @$$ BUCKEYE, GET EM
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Sep 1, 2011 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe I’m just so used to same ol’ MSU but I can’t see how they beat OSU, even a watered down OSU. I can see Nebraska and Wiscy beating us, but Sparty? Nope.
/inb4 1998.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
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