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Spanning The Empire...Your National Letter Of Intent Day Open Thread

What is old becomes new, and players from all over the country pledge their allegiance for the next four years to schools to play the game of football. In the B1G, this past year has been Michigan lapping the field on everyone...until one Urban F. Meyer grabbed the controls of an OSU program that looked to be in a recruiting death spiral.

Meyer closed the gap on and then passed Hoke and Michigan in every major recruiting service rankings, mostly by grabbing guys that had committed to other programs, and he isn't stopping. If I'm reading the tea leaves right, OSU has the biggest chance at a 'signing day surprise', which is nothing like an 'October Surprise'.

But I could be way off on that.

What are some storylines around the conference as letters of intent roll in? I know Jerry Kill at Minnesota has done a good job of repairing relationships Tim Brewster damaged with high school coaches around the state, and has nailed down all but two of the top 10 in-state recruits. The bad news is that Minnesota has about as much football talent as New Zealand has hockey talent, but it's a start. Over in Madison, Bret Bielema is struggling to bring home a good class thanks to a lot of offensive coach defections to Pittsburgh when Paul Chryst took that job. And Illinois coach Tim Beckman will have a lot of hustling to do to match former coach Ron Zook's recruiting prowess. The good news is he could probably roll out of bed hungover and outcoach him, so the Illini have that going for them, which is nice.

Purdue is looking for players that have already had their ACL's operated on; it saves money on surgery and rehab. Northwestern grabbed top recruit LB Ifeadi Odenigbo, which was surprising. At least until we found out Notre Dame was one of his final schools. I mean seriously, who wants to play for a guy like Brian Kelly? Well, Gunner Kiel does. He started out committing to Indiana, then put on an LSU hat for a cup of coffee, then went to Notre Dame. Oh, you wacky teenagers. As for Indiana, they are ranked higher than Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, and Nebraska, of all teams. Kind of surprising, but good for Kevin Wilson. And bad for Nebraska. WTF, Bo? Step it up.

As for the rest of the conference, Iowa won a battle for OL Alex Kozan over Michigan, which was kind of surprising...if you ask Michigan fans. Michigan State is kind of butthurt that Urban Meyer won't leave their recruits leave Brittany alone, and Bill O'Brien is still getting ready for the Super Bowl...which is having a detrimental effect on his first recruiting class.

So use this open thread to report all signings, surprises, and last minute switches, or just general recruiting talk. When things cool down, we'll have a recap on the day's events, and in a few days we'll do a final analysis on how badly Urban Meyer kicked everyone's ass who 'won' and who 'lost'. For now, here's exclusive video footage of a Bret Bielema recruiting pitch:


Hmm, maybe that's why they're having problems bringing talent in this year. Happy NLOI Day, everyone!

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This is actually a good year for Kill to lock things down.

The 2012 MN class is the deepest in the recruiting rankings era. So while there isn’t a 5 star headliner you get some talented kids in the top 3 and a solid 7 behind that. Something tells me that is going to be Kill’s style anyhow. More quality depth made up of players that fit his system and have attributes he strongly favors (think TCU’s recruiting style). I don’t think that means he ignores more highly ranked prospects (especially if they are local) I think it just means he won’t overextend his resources/time chasing stars like Brew did.

by GoAUpher on Feb 1, 2012 7:28 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

The big thing for him

Is that Minnesota’s best players aren’t leaving Minnesota.

Going by the Scout.com rankings, Kill managed to keep 9 of the 12 best high school players in the state of Minnesota IN the state of Minnesota. That can’t possibly hurt.

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by Christopher Gates on Feb 1, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

And the highest rated player of those who didn't sign with MN...

…was a transplant from down south. He moved to MN barely a year ago b/c his dad coaches on the Vikings. So he isn’t what you’d consider a “Minnesota kid” in the traditional sense.

by GoAUpher on Feb 1, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Best Northwestern class in.....ever?

Depending on the ranking service/expert, there are four 4-star or top 150 recruits in this class (OLB Ifeadi Odenigbo, OL Adam DiPietro, DL Greg Kuhar, RB Malin Jones), plus some guys who were very high 3-star prospects (DE Dean Lowry, DB Traveon Henry, OL Adam DiPietro)…..and former 5-star transfer Kyle Prater from USC (who might get a 3rd year of eligibility and able to play immediately if NCAA grants his family hardship waiver).

Nice class by Fitz and the NU coaching staff. Plus, with Gunner Kiel headed to South Bend, the Wildcats are (from all reports) in the driver’s seat for stud Class of 2013 QB Matt Alviti (who had That School in South Bend and Northwestern as his top 2 schools….before Kiel committed).

by Chadnudj on Feb 1, 2012 7:39 AM CST reply actions  

From a UM standpoint -

It doesn’t get much better – you’ve got to love the high ranked defensive folks and the Ohio pipeline reestablished. #Desmond&Woodson

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by Graham Filler on Feb 1, 2012 8:04 AM CST reply actions  

First Surprise

UM picks up an off-the-radar recruit, originally verbal committed to Cincy….Norfleet (love that name). Three star RB, slot or return type guy. Shifty and good change of pace back. Decent credentials.

by GoWings2008 on Feb 1, 2012 8:11 AM CST reply actions  

Nebraska wins their first of five major announcements today

Aaron Curry spurns Iowa and will be in Lincoln. Rivals 4* Scout 3*. Don’t think for a second the defection of Kaz didn’t help that one.

Also, Nebraska isn’t ranked as poorly by Rivals as they are by some other major outlets. It seems to be another quantity vs. quality argument. As of yesterday, they were the 3rd highest B1G school at Rivals behind the Buckeyes and Wolverines. So there’s that.

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by KennardHusker on Feb 1, 2012 8:30 AM CST reply actions  

can we call Urban Meyer "El Flipper"

Meyer has managed to flip recruits faster than it takes to do google search. Wil over signing be the new norm in BIG ten

by spartynation on Feb 1, 2012 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

Well...

Can we call him something worse?

I keeeed, I keeeeed.

by GoWings2008 on Feb 1, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

We do need a good OTE nickname for Urban

No more of this Urban Restoration and Urban Renewal…

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by Graham Filler on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

After today's signing day

Urban Legend

"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 1, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

GET TO ZEE HORSESHOE!

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by Christopher Gates on Feb 1, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Groan....

I just hope he doesn’t quit after a subpar season. I also hope he’s healthy, and he’s a better disciplinarian in Columbus than in Gainesville.

The recruiting wars between Hoke and Meyer will be fun to watch

by LincolnParkWildcat on Feb 1, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

If you're going to go that route

how about Emperor?

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Feb 1, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

A fictional emperor

the guys at Mgoblog had some inspired work last fall

by LincolnParkWildcat on Feb 1, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm sure there is a Crusades joke in there somewhere.

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by KennardHusker on Feb 1, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Redonkulus The First

"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 1, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

It could be,,,

but damn those pesky by-laws…

by barga on Feb 1, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

He hasn't oversigned

6 early enrollees are counted against last year’s recruiting class, from what I understand. Still right under or at 82.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 1, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

nope

we gained Kyle Dodson and Jamal Marcus today, that puts us at 84, with a possible 85 if he grabs Davonte Neal. Which means we’ll have to do 81 and 80 over the next two years, unless he starts punishing kids by kicking them off the team.

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Feb 1, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

…and that’s why tOSU will run wild over the Big Televen.

by TheN8tureBoy on Feb 1, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

He’s gonna bring Oversigning to the B1G? Or at least, maybe give a thorough tutorial on how to mask the numbers through creative attrition? That may be normal ops for the SEC, but not the B1G. Nice try, nurture boy.

by GoWings2008 on Feb 2, 2012 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, stop

He’s not oversigning. There was roster attrition and early enrollees. Every program has attrition, and the guys that have left OSU were guys that were discipline problems or asked for their release. There’s not one guy that’s left the program that Meyer “ran out of town”, if you will.

As of right now, OSU stands at 81 of 82 scholarships.

Meyer was one of the few guys in the SEC who didn’t oversign, along with Richt. You may not like his recruiting methods, you may not like that he’ll contact guys after they’ve committed elsewhere, and you might not like the fact that he’s relentless in going after guys, but I’ve never read anywhere that what he does is illegal.

"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 2, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

He's actually over the 82 man limit now

Note in his press conference he said he’ll be announcing further departures later.

by rogerja on Feb 2, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

He said in his press conference that they were sitting at 81

I has a confused.

"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 2, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

As I read (heard) it, the 81 is after the future separtures (to be announced).

by rogerja on Feb 3, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Ted

I wasn’t necessarily suggesting that he is oversigning. My original comment was towards the things you said about what I may not like about what he’s doing. I was taking the point to ridiculous conclusion for the SEC visitor.

by GoWings2008 on Feb 2, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahhh, okay

My bad dude.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 2, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

it's 82 for the next 3 years

Can’t go higher/lower.

As I understand the Big 10 rules, he can sign up to 28, but could have to explain the overage to the league office.

There are 1-2 medical harships on the horizon, if not already handed out. But yeah,I’ve got some concern about upcoming “roster management.”

by rogerja on Feb 1, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

*Can’t go higher. Can go lower.

by rogerja on Feb 1, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

unless he starts punishing kids by kicking them off the team.

…(thinks about it for a second)…nahhhh!

/goes on with day

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by OctaShields on Feb 1, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I thought you could only back count 3?

See, too many crazy loopholes, even in the B1G.

by GoAUpher on Feb 1, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Article here.

I tend to not mention the ACC in my recruiting pitches, but oh well.

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by Graham Filler on Feb 1, 2012 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

We're having fun now

https://twitter.com/#!/AdamHogeCBS/status/164826113460273153

Bret Bielema just said he had some issues with Urban Meyer’s recruiting and used word “illegal”. Said he called Urban and worked it out.

Yeah. . .I’m sure Meyer is pretty cool with all that.

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by Christopher Gates on Feb 1, 2012 4:02 PM CST reply actions  

BRODOWN!

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by NorthernStar on Feb 1, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

So wait...if it was illegal...

…how could it be worked out via a phone call? #TryADictionarySometime ;o)

by GoAUpher on Feb 1, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

"That move is illegal in 37 states!"

This just doesn’t happen to be one of them.

by Wolvie on Feb 1, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Bielema:

//pops collar like a douchebag brah

//cries like a girl

//says he was kidding

//pops collar again

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by Ted Glover on Feb 1, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Correlation/Causation 101
Bill O’Brien is still getting ready for the Super Bowl…which is having a detrimental effect on his first recruiting class.

This quote above is the pop quiz for the first day. Sort of a softball and icebreaker to get students involved early.

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by OctaShields on Feb 1, 2012 4:46 PM CST reply actions  

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