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The All-Time (Since 1996) Big Ten Football Tournament - Introduction

So here we are. In baseball, they call this the hot stove league. In politics, they call this the silly season. In college football, we call this hell. It's the long period between national signing day and the opening of fall camps. We'll dig for any nugget of news. We crave any angle about our teams.

We're not immune here at Off Tackle Empire. In past summers we have enumerated 80 awesome things about the Big Ten and recapped the previous thirty champions. This year, we bring you something new. Tomorrow starts the All-Time (Since 1996) Big Ten Football Tournament. The ATS1996BTFT (it just rolls off the tongue) will pit the best team from each program against each other in a single elimination, bracketed tournament. All of the outcomes will be reported here at OTE.

Wait, what's this about?

Starting tomorrow, and continuing for the next eleven weeks, we'll pit great teams from the past against each other until we're left with one winner.

What teams?

There are 12 teams in the tournament, one from each member institution during the past sixteen seasons.

Star-divide

Why are you only going back to 1996?

All of the games are being simulated over at Whatifsports.com, and that's as far back as they go.

How did you pick the teams for each school?

I tried to pick what I thought was the best team from each school. I defaulted to champions. So, yes, you'll see all three Big Ten schools' national champions from this era. That meant that 2002 Ohio State is in the bracket, even if some may argue that 1996 was a better squad. Also, when possible, conference champions were selected for each school. Here again, 2000 Purdue was taken instead of what may have been a better team in 2003. When deciding between champions, I tried to select what I believed to be the stronger team. I chose 1996 over 2000 Northwestern, 2002 Iowa over 2004, 1998 Wisconsin over 1999, 2010 and 2011, and 2008 Penn State over 2005 Penn State. I struggled most with the Lions, but after consulting with our Penn State writer, I think we made the right call. For the two schools that failed to win a championship in the last 16 years, I picked what I believed to be the best team from each.

Are the teams seeded?

Yes they are. The three national champions received the three top seeds and first round byes. I struggled deciding between Penn State and Wisconsin for the #4 seed, but ended on the Lions. I filled out the rest of the bracket based on my own perceptions and memories. Here's the draw.

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Click bracket to embiggen.


You're an idiot. My team should have a better seed. [Alternate entry from Ohio State fans: You're an idiot. Ohio State is so great it deserved a bye into the finals.]

I know.

How will the games be played?

Each matchup will be a single game simulated on Whatifsports's site. Each game will be played at Delany Stadium, a neutral field with no precipitation, a light wind, and 50 degree temperatures. In each matchup, what I'm reporting is the first result that comes up.

Wouldn't a best of seven series be fairer?

Of course. A best of 1,001 series would be fairer than that. Look, this won't determine what team is the best. A playoff doesn't do that (remember that as we inch toward that horrible outcome in college football). A playoff determines what team can win a series of consecutive games. Nothing more. Yes, playing a series would be a better determination of which team is better. But that's not how football works, is it? Any Given Sunday Saturday, right? Look, it's great if Wisconsin would win that first round matchup with Indiana 95 times out of 100. But, Indiana still has a one-in-twenty chance. If the right numbers come up, we have an upset. That's part of what makes football, and tournaments, fun.

How do we know that you haven't rigged the results?

You don't. I can tell you that I haven't, but if you don't believe it, so be it. This is for fun. If people can't get past that, then fine. I know that I'll be accused of cheating if Iowa wins a game (or heaven forbid pulls an upset), but I know that I can sleep well at night.

So who do you like?

I have no idea. I look at the Top 6 teams and can easily see each of them winning the whole thing. If I had to pick one, I'd say give me Ohio State. It may be the chalk pick, but I didn't put them as the number one seed because I expected them to lose.

Any sleepers?

If I limit it to teams seeded 7-12, I like 2001 Illinois a lot. That was a really good team that time has forgotten. 2010 Michigan State could win multiple games, or they could get blown out in their opener - just like in real life. We'll see how it plays out tomorrow when they kickoff at Delany Stadium against 1996 Northwestern in Game One of the All-Time (Since 1996) Big Ten Football Tournament. We'll see you then.

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Purdue smokes 2001 Illinois

Considering the 2001 Purdue team without Brees was so inept they got only 10 points off of 5 first half turnovers, Brees himself drills them.

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by BoilerTMill on Feb 2, 2012 7:19 AM CST reply actions  

You're an idiot. Ohio State deserved is so great it deserved a bye into the finals

Oh, wait. You got that covered. :)

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by Ted Glover on Feb 2, 2012 7:57 AM CST reply actions  

oh this is going to be fun

If Nebraska loses in its first matchup, I assume OTE will be overrun by the Red Hordes

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by Graham Filler on Feb 2, 2012 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Hm... Delany Stadium sounds a lot like the Metrodome

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Feb 2, 2012 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

we need pariahwulf to do a nice picture of Delany Stadium

I imagine something that combines the Colosseum and Jerry Jones’ stadium.

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by Graham Filler on Feb 2, 2012 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I suppose they'll need something to do...

When Marion Barber and Lawrence Maroney decide they want to hang 100 each on them. Hopefully they can get back before Rhys Lloyd screws it all up for us. Again.

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Feb 2, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I realize we have no horse in this race

Might as well have some fun…

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Feb 3, 2012 8:46 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

2003 Minnesota couldn't even beat 2003 Iowa

no way you’re taking it to 2002 Iowa

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 2, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

You apparently thought I was serious

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Feb 3, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

the "WHOOSH"ing sound I heard was the joke flying over my head. My bad.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Just like a real game,

have all the yards you want, as long as Abdul-Khaliq, Maroney, and Barber combine for 0 TDs. Again.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=233192294

And about a team with 2 RBs putting up a hundred yards each:

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2002-11-16-minnesota.html

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 2, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Again?

I suppose Iowa fans know something about that word:

2010:

2011:

When we get the Pig, the Jug and the Axe, we'll have one hell of a picnic

by Marshmoose on Feb 3, 2012 8:43 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I haz a sad

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Ouch.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 3, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

He didn't screw it up in 2003 against Wisconsin, damnit...

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 3, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Can Sparty get a handicap?

It seems fair since we had Bobby Williams and JLS in that span of time

So now Minnesota has rivalry trophies with a school riddled with meth and athlete-run drug houses, a campus that keeps Alcoholics Anonymous and Layne Bryant stores in operation, "that which will not be discussed" at Penn State and now Michigan is kissing it’s little brother. Great.
-Marshmoose

by SpartyFever on Feb 2, 2012 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

you'll get your chance Sparty

When we do our “worst of” bracket

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by Graham Filler on Feb 2, 2012 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

That's just going to be awful (and awesome)

Is it possible to have Cosgrove directing defenses for all the teams? That seems like the only appropriate way to handle the advantage that is the “Bend and Absolutely Break” defense he employed.

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by KennardHusker on Feb 2, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You might remember how...

…his defenses frequently seemed to be kind of, sort of, working prior to halftime, and then the second half would come and we would get utterly mauled.

It’s like he intentionally ditched whatever worked. I call him the “defensive un-coordinator.”

by HailVarsity on Feb 3, 2012 6:58 AM CST up reply actions  

There have been a lot of bad assistants over the years

But he gets the awards for worst. I have not found a man more incompetent at his job in all of football. The fact that he continued to receive jobs is mind-boggling.

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by KennardHusker on Feb 3, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he ditched what worked.

He didn’t change anything while the other team would compensate.

Your point stands however. He was the kind of defensive coordinator that offensive coordinator’s dream about having in their conference.

Play for the love of the game. A Cornhusker through feast or famine. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Feb 3, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Ooh, good.

That bracket can go back before 1995.

by MNWildcat on Feb 2, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Can we sub 2011 Spartans for 2010?

2010 had a better record, but most folks think 2011 was a stronger team.

https://twitter.com/#!/SpartanKC

by Spartan D on Feb 2, 2012 8:44 AM CST reply actions  

No

Champions Rule.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Feb 2, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

2005 Penn State >>> 2008 honestly

2005 had a real secondary, and M-Rob, and a better tailback.

08’ had a better offense, definitely better, but 05’s defense would outweigh it

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Feb 2, 2012 9:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

I agree

I like 05 much more than 08.

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by 06Lion on Feb 2, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell, 2008 Ohio State was probably as talented as 2002 Ohio State. Damn you Ryan Hamby.

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by Jon Ross on Feb 2, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Excuse me, I meant 2005.

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by Jon Ross on Feb 2, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, '05 was a helluva team

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by Ted Glover on Feb 2, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

My top 5 OSU teams

over the time period in question would be as follows:

1.) 1998
2.) 1996
3.) 2005
4.) 2002
5.) 2010

You could flip-flop 1 and 2 and I wouldn’t argue much.

by Viceroy Fizzlebottom on Feb 2, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

2002 has to be No. 1 just on principle.

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by Jon Ross on Feb 3, 2012 12:23 AM CST up reply actions  

1) 2002. They won it all. End of argument for me

2) 2006—I will never get over the ass beating they took, but damn, was still an all time great team.
3) 1998—How did they lose to Michigan St? HOW???
4) 2005—Best Michigan game of the Tressel era, and curb stomped Charlie Weiss in the Fiesta Bowl
5) 1996—Rose Bowl win was signature win for Cooper, what a great defense—Vrabel, Fickell, Antoine Winfield, Shawn Springs, etc.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 3, 2012 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Saban was oversigning before oversigning began?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 3, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

He is a hipster like that

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It's gotta be 97 Michigan v. 02 State

I’ll go with tSUN. That team was the ridiculous. Then again, the Bucks were pretty damn good too.

by mikjones24 on Feb 2, 2012 9:22 AM CST reply actions  

97 Michigan was amazing

But the hawks were two Matt Sherman passes away from shocking them in the Big House.

The top six teams are all great, but all vulnerable. Even with the undefeated teams, all three had their games where the breaks went their way.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Feb 2, 2012 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

02 OSU

Had more close calls than I’ve ever seen. Look at these scores -

23-19 over Cinci
19-14 over Wisky
13-7 over PSU
10-6 over Purdue
23-16 over Illinois
14-9 over UM

So yeah. That team was so damn fallible.

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by Graham Filler on Feb 2, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

But they won.

Carziest damn season I’ve ever seen. Could’ve just as easily been 6-6.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't know about 6-6

but I think you should have lost to Illinois. I just remember there being some questionable reffing at the end of that one

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 2, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Look at the roster though

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Ohio_State_Buckeyes_football_team
By my count, 26 players on the 2-deep got drafted, including 7 in the first round.

by nuftw on Feb 2, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

So what?

So did Iowa in 2009. The point was they won…until STANZI NO!

Doesn’t really matter how lucky you are as long as you keep winning. The Bucks in 02 did that.

by mikjones24 on Feb 2, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

poor Stanzi

his patriotism was no match for an evil magic potato.

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Feb 2, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

How quickly we forget

Look at Auburn in 2010:

17-14 over Mississippi State
27-24 over Clemson
35-27 over South Carolina
37-34 over Kentucky
24-17 over LSU
28-27 over Alabama
22-19 over Oregon

But because they did it largely with offense as opposed to defense, pretty much no one thinks of them as being particularly fortunate.

by Viceroy Fizzlebottom on Feb 2, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I do.

I watched their game against Clemson. They were THIIIIISSSSSSS close to chumping that one.

by HailVarsity on Feb 3, 2012 7:00 AM CST up reply actions  

That Alabama game reamains inexplicable to me

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Ingram could have iced the game...

and instead, fumbled it through the endzone. When Auburn knocked out McElroy in the 4th, Alabama’s offense died as Trent Richardson was bona fide worthless.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 3, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably for the best that it only goes back to '96.

This wouldn’t be much of a contest if the ’95 Huskers were in there dominating everyone.

by alacy9513 on Feb 2, 2012 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed.

Still the best team of my lifetime.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Feb 2, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm no Husker fan

But NE would have crushed NW even worse then UF that year, even if NW had Fitz on D. No contest.

by br27 on Feb 3, 2012 5:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Nebraska played four teams that year that finished in the top ten.

They won one of those games by 23 points, another by 24 points, and the other two by 38 points each.

Northwestern was a good team, and an awesome feel-good story. Nebraska would have annihilated them. They would have annihilated anybody.

by HailVarsity on Feb 3, 2012 7:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I still think 1994 PSU was better than 1994 Nebraska

but a game versus 1995 Nebraska vs. 1995 Northwestern would have resulted in the NCAA installing a mercy rule

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

1995 UN is an impressive team

However, the 1995 NU team lined up and shocked everyone (except Randy Walker’s Miami of Ohio team and Keyshawn Johnson’s U$C team).

It could be a tighter game than you think. If only our simulator site went back to 1995…. //sigh

Our mid 90s teams could beat our spread era teams due to great defense and a powerful balanced offense…. It’s gotta be driving Fitz crazy that his defenses now are worse than the ones he directed as a player. I bet he almost thinks of damning the rules and playing himself…

by LincolnParkWildcat on Feb 3, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we need to petition for a rules change.

Change the criteria to start at 1995 and we can get what are clearly the two best teams at our respective schools. I think I know the final outcome, but at least we could test it.

BTW, yes I see what you did in the tagline/first paragraph. Slick.

by HailVarsity on Feb 3, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not even an indictment on Northwestern

While this is too cliche to even type, that team really was as good as advertised. I have never had more fun following a team than that 95 season. Every Saturday was another chance to curbstomp the opposition, and we all knew it. When the teams trotted out for warmups, everyone knew what was about to happen. So when the de facto MNC game came around and everyone started to talk about how good Florida really was, and how good Spurrier’s fun and gone was, Nebraska fans just smiled. We all knew that game was going to get ugly fast because Nebraska just had that many weapons on offense, defense, and ST.

While I do agree that Northwestern was good (and I think that team could’ve hung tough with the Gators that year), playing Nebraska in 95 didn’t even seem fair. I’m going to go YouTube moments from that season and cry a little bit…

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by KennardHusker on Feb 3, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Full disclosure

I always hated Nebraska. But even I have to admit that 1995 team was amazing. Definitely in the running for best college football team of all time (though I give a very slight nod to 2001 Miami). Of course, that made the 1996 Big XII Championship Game all the more sweeter.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Aaaand another reference leading to more crying... damn you Texas...

No, I understand hating Nebraska. I’m actually surprised when people outside of Nebraska don’t hate them. I would. Fans are obnoxious, they had an extremely good run which made fans more obnoxious, and well, it’s Nebraska… I love it, but I don’t expect anyone else to (the state… not the school) (you can also try to insert some hipster’d comment here… I am still not awake enough to try to be witty).

But yeah, trying to sell that Nebraska team short is ridiculous. Nobody was going to touch them that year. There were no close games, and they broke a ridiculous amount of records for scoring (at the time). I think they eclipsed 750 yards against Pacific (a game I was actually at!) even with reserves in around halftime. It was just an unbelievable team.

As for best ever? I go back and forth between Miami 2001 and Nebraska 1995. Obviously, I am a bit biased and lean Nebraska, but that Miami team was loaded at every freaking position. Head to head, I give the nod to Miami. As far as being era-specific? I give it to Nebraska.

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by KennardHusker on Feb 3, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Better coaching with 95 Neb, that would have made the difference.

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by nateforchiefs on Feb 3, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

The thing about that Miami team...

…is they were not as dominant, on a game-by-game basis, as 1995 Nebraska. No one got closer than two TDs to Nebraska that season. If you throw out the Washington State game, which was something of an outlier, no one came closer than three TDs.

Miami, meanwhile, beat Virginia Tech by two (thanks partially to a dropped two-point conversion by the Hokies). They were arguably about to lose to Boston College when they iced the game with what is, unquestionably, one of the flukiest pick-sixes in college football history. They also played in the Big East, which is not a tough conference.

Granted, they had some very impressive wins, of the kind reminiscent of 1995 Nebraska. But they weren’t consistent. Nebraska was mentally tougher.

BTW, check out the Internet chatter from non-Husker fan groups sometime. Outside fans either say that our fans are 1.) The nicest people they’ve ever met, or 2.) Unbelievably obnoxious and full-of-themselves. I have yet to meet anybody who holds the middle ground.

by HailVarsity on Feb 3, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, I think Nebraska is the best team all-time

They would have crushed anyone in a two or three year span if not more. However, somewhere around 2000, football had started really changing, and I think that a lot of those teams would have given 95 Nebraska problems by virtue of sheer athleticism. So while I think 95 is the most dominant as a team within the constraints of challengers (and thusly the best team of all-time in my book overall), I still would argue Miami 2001 is the most talented… if that makes sense. I’ve just never seen a team with that much athleticism and NFL talent.

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by KennardHusker on Feb 3, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

As you might expect, I think '94 Nebraska was better...

…but it is one of the regrets of my life (using “regret” in a cosmic sense) that those two teams did not play in 1994.

People in Nebraska were rightly overjoyed to beat Miami in the Orange Bowl. But Nebraska-Penn State was the rightful championship game. The entire sport got shafted.

by HailVarsity on Feb 3, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

are we counting any team that has taken the field since Jan 1st 1996? if so…problem solved:
Google search for “best college football team ever”

by Fake Pelini on Feb 2, 2012 1:26 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

Yeah

I wanted that too, but I didn’t want to force matchups. If it’s meant to be, it will be.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Feb 2, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

To make it even more interesting, you should have seeded each B1G school’s seasons 1-16 (96-11). Had each of those playoffs, and THEN seeded the champions of those individual 12 tournaments into one final Champions (Premier) Playoff ala European soccer.

I’ll just seed the OSU squads:

#1: 2002 (14-0) vs #16 1999 (6-6)
#8: 2003 (11-2) vs #9 2005 (10-2)

#5: 2010 (12-1) vs #12 2004 (8-4)
#4: 1996 (11-1) vs #13 2000 (8-4)

#3: 1998 (11-1) vs #14 2001 (7-5)
#6: 2009 (11-2) vs #11 1997 (10-3)

#7: 2007 (11-2) vs #10 2008 (10-3)
#2: 2006 (12-1) vs #15 2011 (6-7)

Anyone else care to do the other schools for Bama?

by talonk on Feb 2, 2012 3:31 PM CST reply actions  

Illinois.
  1. 2001 (10-2) vs. #16 1997 (0-11)
  2. 2002 (5-7) vs #9 2009 (3-9)
  1. 2011 (7-6) vs #12 1996 (2-9)
  2. 2010 (7-6) vs #13 2006 (2-10)
  1. 1999 (8-4) vs #14 2005 (2-9)
  2. 2008 (5-7) vs #11 1998 (3-8)
  1. 2000 (5-6) vs #10 2004 (3-8)
  2. 2007 (9-4) vs #15 2003 (1-11)

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by U-God on Feb 2, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Unsure why it formatted as such.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Feb 2, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Northwestern

1. 1996
2. 2000
3. 2005
4. 2009
5. 2008
6. 2004
7. 2003
8. 2010
9. 2007
10. 1997
11. 2011
12. 2006
13. 2001
14. 2002
15. 1999
16. 1998, winless in conference (1 of 7 in this period: Illinois 97,03,05, Minnesota 07, Iowa 99, and Indiana 11)

by nuftw on Feb 2, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a fantastic idea, though a lot more work, a fantastic idea.

by Estrada on Feb 2, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean with 7 months until the next season starting, we have plenty of time to run the simulations.

Say run each school’s playoff over a two week chunk - that takes 6 months … then a final dramatic push fo rthe Champions League …. 11 games for the final month.

by talonk on Feb 2, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe....

Then again, I think we’d all like to read other types of columns over the next 7 months….you know, like season previews, spring practice reviews, potlucks, and columns making fun of the ACC/Big East….

by Chadnudj on Feb 2, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

ha, wasn’t expecting a game by game recap of every game played per school (except for the Champions games). But a summary once every two weeks wouldn’t clog up the posts hardly at all.

by talonk on Feb 2, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, semi-sorry to be a spoiler

But from previous experiences with What-if, 2008 Penn State will probably get killed

Success With honor

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Feb 2, 2012 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

Only if this guy is on every team they face

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I love this idea

Also, there have been two B1G national champions during this time. TWO. And since 2002 OSU had Tressel and Clarett, it really should be one although I’m fine counting that one.

by truemichiganman on Feb 2, 2012 8:43 PM CST reply actions  

Hahaha

Your tears provide me with sustenance.

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by Jon Ross on Feb 3, 2012 12:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Also, Michigan and Nebraska's titles added together in this time period equal Ohio State's.

.5 + .5 =1

/trolololololol

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-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta

by Jon Ross on Feb 3, 2012 12:28 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

would you rank the OSU squads I did above differently Jon?

by talonk on Feb 3, 2012 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Looks good. But I am really high on 2005, that was the biggest difference.

1. 2002
2a.1998
2b. 2006
3. 1996
4. 2005
5. 2010
6. 2003
7. 2009
8. 2007 (that team sucked, even though they could have won the NCG)
After that it’s a toss up of pain. Although end of the year 2004 could have probably beaten 2007. Everyone else was average, and 1999 and 2011 were just brutal.

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by Jon Ross on Feb 3, 2012 1:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

You’re not the only one who believes this.

In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

by Pariahwulfen on Feb 3, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I feel the same way

What could’ve been with Clarett…always going to have that ‘what if’ about ’03.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 4, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 3, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, if we're being accurate

One and a half.

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