ATS1996BTFT Game 1 - 1996 Northwestern v. 2010 Michigan State
It's time for the kickoff of the opening game of the All-Time (Since 1996) Big Ten Football Tournament (the explanation is here). Today we will see the Number 9 seeded 1996 Wildcats of Northwestern face off against the Eighth Seeded 2010 Spartans of Michigan State University. Top seeded 2002 Ohio State awaits the winner in the quarterfinals. But first let's brush up on our competitors.
#9 1996 Northwestern Wildcats
9-3 (7-1) Co-Big Ten Champs; lost Citrus Bowl to Tennessee
The 'Cats shocked the world by winning the Big Ten outright in 1995 with an 8-0 conference record. The next year, led by returning Senior linebacker Pat Fitzgerald, running back Darnell Autry, and head coach Gary Barnett, Northwestern made lightning strike twice, as it shared the Big Ten crown with Ohio State. The team ran a pro set offense that skewed a little bit toward the run. Northwestern wouldn't adopt the pass-happy spread until Randy Walker became coach. That's part of what made these Northwestern teams so impressive. They didn't try to trick or out-flank anyone. They just lined up and beat them.
#8 2010 Michigan State Spartans
11-2 (7-1) Co-Big Ten Champs; lost CapitalOne Bowl to Alabama
The Spartans didn't really come out of nowhere, but they made quite a lead when they went from a .500 team in 2009 to co-champs in 2010. The defense was fierce, and it was led by linebacker Greg Jones. The offense was balanced, with Kirk Cousins managing the attack. Weird quirk about the Spartans: when they were on, they were great. They beat Co-Champ Wisconsin and won games over bowl teams Notre Dame, Northwestern, Michigan, Illinois, and Penn State. But when they were bad, they were really bad. Iowa and Alabama combined to outscore Sparty 86-13, and it's fair to say that both games could have been worse.
And now, to the game...
Purple Power!
Wildcats Obliterate MSU, 33-3
Spartans fans had to feel like they were subjected to the third in a trilogy of bad horror movies. The running game was ineffective. The quarterback threw costly interceptions and looked confused all game. The defense kept giving up first downs. In the end, the result was familiar and unpleasant. The only difference was the the villain wasn't a bird or an elephant, but a Wildcat.
Northwestern controlled this one from their first drive, dominating the game with time-consuming running attack and a precision passing game. When a Kirk Cousins second quarter interception was immediately turned into a 15 yard Darnell Autry touchdown run, it was clear that the Wildcats were going to be moving on to the Quarterfinals and a Delany Stadium date with the Buckeyes.
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Thoughts on the Outcome:
I have to be honest. I think that I sold Northwestern short. I anticipated a Michigan State victory, and I didn't necessarily think that it would be close. This is where we need to remember that this was a really good Northwestern team. They were a squad that had much more in common with the current Spartans than the Wildcats of today. It controlled games and played tough defense.
As for Michigan State, I admit that I laughed when I saw the outcome. If Sparty was going to lose in 2010, it was going to LOSE. Even in pretend world, that held true. After this outcome, I ran the simulation ten more times. Northwestern won six of those ten, so it's hard to argue that this result is flukish, even if the final score was an outlier.
Chadnudj:
The 1996 Wildcats were, without a doubt, the best Wildcats team since 1996, and the 2nd best team in Northwestern history, with history dating back to the beginning of college football in 1995 (in all seriousness, they may be the 2nd best team of all-time, too).
It's been said that the hardest thing to do in sports is repeat -- it's hard to climb to the top of the mountain, certainly, but it's even harder to stay there the next year when everyone is gunning for you. The 1996 Wildcats, coming off the greatest turnaround in college football history in 1995 (from the bottom of the conference for decades to the Rose Bowl and Wheaties boxes) did just that -- repeated as Big Ten Champions, and would have been the B1G's 2nd BCS representative that season if the BCS were around back then (both OSU and Northwestern were 7-1 in conference).
And let's face it -- the 1996 Wildcats were a beast, and almost every bit as formidable as the famous 1995 Wildcats. Like 1995, the 1996 Wildcats had QB Steve Schnur (2632 yards passing, 60% completion rate, 17 TDs, 127.7 QB rating), RB Darnell Autry (1452 yards rushing, 17 TDs), and WR D'Wayne Bates (1196 yards receiving, 12 TDs) anchoring an effective and clutch pro-style offense -- the 1996 Cats won 5 B1G games by 4 points or less. The Wildcats defense was similarly stacked -- Pat Fitzgerald returned from the broken leg that kept him out of the Rose Bowl (a leg broken by Iowa in 1995, which the Hawkeyes still feel Fitz's wrath for to this day...in 1996, the Cats crushed Iowa 40-13 in Fitz's first crack at revenge), Barry Gardner joined him in the LB corps, Hudhaifa Ismaeli was a true shutdown corner (arguably one of the best athletes in Wildcats history) joining Eric Collier in forming a formidable secondary, and Matt Rice and Casey Dailey brought tons of pressure on the D-line. And the special teams....well, were special. Brian Gowins was so clutch he beat Michigan twice in 1996 (nailing a second game-winner after connecting on a first try that was called back due to a questionably late "ice the kicker" timeout by Lloyd Carr), and Brian Musso was one of the better punt returners/kick returners in modern, post-1995 B1G history (the battle between him and Tim Dwight in 1997 for most kick/punt return yards was a highly entertaining and underrated storyline in what was a disappointing season for the Cats).
Next Week: 2007 Indiana vs. 1998 Wisconsin. This one should be a rout, right?
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So NW's old men in their late 30's,
beat MSU’s young studs who are still playing college & pro ball?!?! Shenanigans!!!
by MSUDersh on Feb 3, 2012 7:38 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Given both teams' penchant for close games....
….2002 OSU and 1996 Northwestern could be a GREAT game.
Ted Glover said he's quitting if OSU loses
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by Graham Filler on Feb 3, 2012 8:04 AM CST up reply actions
I think..
…..Bama Hawkeye may have seeded 1996 Northwestern too low, frankly. I would have pushed them ahead of 2001 Illinois, at minimum.
Nope.
That Illini team scored 4.5 more points a game while only giving up 0.6 more points, with an SRS of 12.71 to NW’s 8.75. That Northwestern team lost to 3-8 Wake Forest.
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We'd appreciate it
if you would stop bringing “facts” into these debates.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
DID NOT!!
But I do think Chad will do a happy dance if it happens.
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Dammit! I hate losing hypothetical nonsensical completely irrelevant computer matchups!!!
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as do i
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by Graham Filler on Feb 3, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
lets see how far the luck of the Cats goes
its a long offseason….
by LincolnParkWildcat on Feb 3, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
I'm just waiting to see how angry you get
if Michigan wins it
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I will hack that fucking site and burn their servers to the ground!!!!
just kidding – I don’t know shit about hacking.
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SPARTY NOOO!!!!!
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by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2012 9:31 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
You can take John L. Smith out of Michigan State
but you can’t take the JLS out of MSU
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
How dare you speak of the head coach of Weber State
Like that.
by mikjones24 on Feb 3, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So Northwestern is totally MSU's most hated rival, aren't they?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 3, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Just out of curiosity
I ran the game 5 times against the 2010 Spartans and MSU took 3 of them. Then I did it again with the 2011 Spartans and they took 4, with the only hypothetical loss being a double OT game where MSU somehow missed an EP.
The website hates Dan Conroy for some reason, he had a couple 0-fer games.
Really though, I was just curious since I’d say 2011 was a better team than 2010.
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What kind of offense were you running on each team when you ran this simulation?
by LincolnParkWildcat on Feb 3, 2012 10:26 AM CST reply actions
What the simulator identified as default
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by Bama Hawkeye on Feb 3, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
There is no way that 1996 was Northwestern's second best year of all-time
How could you forget 1936, when Northwestern was robbed of the national title? Despite having the same record and having beaten Minnesota head to head, the writers somehow decided to give the title to the Gophers who didn’t even win the conference. To date, only one other team has won their conference outright only to have the APNC go to another team from the same conference.
That’s why Pat Fitzgerald hates Minnesota so much.
by nuftw on Feb 3, 2012 10:40 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
1936?
Sorry, that’s 59 years before the birth of college football.
Minnesota was a Great Depression Powerhouse.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 3, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
OF COURSE! I HAD FORGOTEEN ABOUT THE 1936 TEAM UNTIL NOW!!
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Feb 3, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Well, naturally they were good.
Riding the money of their son-of-industry quarterback James P. von Higgenbottom III and soon-to-inherit-a-banking-fortune Cornelius Q. Douchington, the ’36 Wildcats would demoralize teams they played by riding to their events on new-fangled aeroplanes, importing steaks and lobsters, which they would dine upon in full sight of the opponents (who were having the Depression classic, a shit sandwich), and hiring the younger brothers of their opponents to carry their lengthy baggage train into the stadium, then lead cheers for the Wildcats.
Emaciated and demoralized, their opponents could offer little resistance, but late intervention by the Roosevelt Administration saw controversial legislation passed establishing the CFCRB, or College Football Competition Relations Board, which undermined the authority of the NCAA and would not be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court until 1938. By then, it was too late. The APNC had been awarded to Minnesota and Douchington committed suicide, taking with him the only heir to his family’s banking fortune.
So yeah, I’d say it’s well-deserved hatred.
by MNWildcat on Feb 3, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 9 recs
damn labor boards
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by Graham Filler on Feb 3, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
Hilarious
But you should put the SCOTUS ruling pre-1937 and the Switch in Time That Saved Nine. /lawschooldorkery
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Dammit.
That’s what I get for waking up and writing that before class.
/ashamed history-poli sci major
Northwestern is small and mighty....
…..the footnote 4 of Carolene Products of the Big Ten, am I right?
by Chadnudj on Feb 3, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
omg
omg guys
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by Graham Filler on Feb 3, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
So, what's his reason for hating Iowa so much?
Oh right, the leg. But that still doesn’t explain the weird Stanford hatred. Maybe Fitz should spend more time worrying about putting together a competent defense and less on his personal grudges.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
The Stanford hatred has a lot to do with Harbaugh...
…and negative recruiting. (Harbaugh bad-mouthed Northwestern all the time on the recruiting trail, even when Northwestern was winning and Harbaugh was suffering through 1 or 3 win seasons)
Stanford is REALLY sketchy on recruiting in particular over-offering scholarships — offering guys, having those guys verbal, and then when a better player comes along announcing that earlier committed recruit couldn’t come due to “academics.” It happened to two guys (Jontrell Tillman/Caspers) this year at Stanford….Kain Colter came to Northwestern this way (he was a Stanford commit, but a shoulder injury his senior year had Stanford suddenly decide he wasn’t “acadmically” admitted). The practice started with Harbaugh, and continues to this day under Shaw.
Don't forget, that loss was to the Domers
In an unscheduled (as of the beginning of the season) charity game at Soldier Field. I’m not sure the rest of the B1G realizes how much we hate that School from South Bend.
By now
I thought it was just assumed that if you’re in the Big Ten, you hate TSISB. I think everyone here can come up with at least one reason to despise the very core of their beings.
I don't hate Notre Dame
For the most part, they run a clean program, graduate their players, and (try to) compete at the highest level. I don’t have any problem with any of those goals.
Notre Dame fans on the other hand… Let’s just say I enjoy looking at NDNation a bit too much after an Irish loss.
by nuftw on Feb 3, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Was this game a home game for MSU
or played at a neutral site? Because that REALLY mattered for MSU in 2010.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
From the first article:
Each matchup will be a single game simulated on Whatifsports’s site. Each game will be played at Delany Stadium, a neutral field with no precipitation, a light wind, and 50 degree temperatures. In each matchup, what I’m reporting is the first result that comes up.
My reading thoroughness
has left a lot to be desired as of late.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
It's funny because...
you make a good point about how much that mattered. Given that it was a neutral site game, it makes the result make that much more sense.
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First Alabama now Northwestern?
God damnit… 2010 just keeps getting worse and worse…
is singing along to the decemberists
and i will hang my head, hang my head low… and i will hang my HOLY SHIT DID THAT HAPPEN?
man i miss northwestern playing defense…
Can we count this as a Northwestern bowl win?
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by ProveIt on Feb 4, 2012 9:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah,
but they’ll have to trade in a bowl win from their history.
So…no.
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